Thread 82833551

Should you lie to women about having past sexual/romantic experiences if you're well past the age where having none is socially acceptable or should you just bite the bullet and be honest about it if asked

>>82833551 (OP)
If you want the best chances just lie. Id be honest because i dont care.

>>82833551 (OP)
I've fucked one girl ever who was my gf and I gave a girl the ick by lying and saying I had a one night stand as well after that. she said one night stands are disgusting.

Only ever be honest

>>82833551 (OP)
It depends, do you want to be seen for who you are, or are you cynical enough to not care anymore?

>>82833551 (OP)
> if you're well past the age where having none is socially acceptable
At that point it's already clear you have major social issues and likely autism, so if a woman is into this type of man (You), chances are she already expects you to be a virgin and thus doesn't mind because she already sees that you're a sperg.
If your ONLY issue is simple ugliness and you got social skills and confidence, then it might be in your best interest to lie.

Avoid mentioning it. Talk about relationships by cribbing knowledge about how they work from friend's relationships. Like how women are cold all the time and heat is expensive. And how women love to buy little treats and trinkets for themselves. Stuff like that. Give the impression you know what you're talking about and maybe even like you've lived with a woman. If asked, be honest, but avoid getting asked - ykwim?

>>82833551 (OP)
If you're a virgin, she will know. They can smell it off you. It doesn't mean she will hate you, some girls are into that, but she will know if you try and lie and say you've been with women. You'll also give the game away by sperging if she did fuck you.

>>82833551 (OP)
Being unloved sounds bad, but sex is something you grow accustomed to over time. Practice makes perfect, if you lie that you've had sex when you've had no experience at all ... well, it'll be all too obvious!

>>82833564
I want to the best chance but I hate lying, what a dilemma
>>82833567
Having only been with one girlfriend is sweet, having never had a girlfriend makes it seem like there's something wrong with you
>>82833575
I don't think my lack of romantic or sexual experience defines who I am
>>82833579
This is probably true but women who like spergy guys with social issues are unicorns so I imagine if I ever have a woman interested in me I would have just successfully faked normalness enough to give her the ick
>>82833588
I know what you mean and would avoid getting asked but it seems like something women like to hear about
>>82833589
I don't think this is true actually, normies don't even conceptualise the possibility of someone being a virgin past a certain age when people hear I'm a virgin they sincerely ask how that's even possible

>>82833658
>I want to the best chance but I hate lying, what a dilemma
Whats even your age that you need to lie? Wonder what age people find this as a weird thing. Im 23 for reference.

>>82833551 (OP)
well i'm not interested in lying about it, lies always catch up to you
if a woman is bothered enough by my lack of experience then she can fuck right off
i haven't had any in my life and i plan on going the rest of it with none anyway so i lose nothing

>>82833658
>This is probably true but women who like spergy guys with social issues are unicorns
I know a few couples where the woman is very extroverted and the guy is shy/silent so it does happen.

>>82833589
This is false. Women are people and don't possess any sort of supernatural abilities like that. The human sense of smell is pretty bad overall anyway.

And I'm speaking here from personal experience as a former robot ("incel" is nu-r9k cancer). I do think that being a virgin at a "later age" is a red flag for women, whether that's fair or not. I made sure to imply to the woman I lost my virginity to that I had experience, without ever outright lying and saying so.

After we fucked I came clean, and she was surprised, though since we were basking in the afterglow she was amused and not offended. She just said she was glad to be my first.

>>82833658
>I don't think my lack of romantic or sexual experience defines who I am
It's part of who you are right now, you literally asked that question:>>82833551 (OP)
It doesn't define your worth or who you are, you are not limited to only be "a person who lacks romantic/sexual experience".
But it is a part of you, that even causes you enough anxiety to ask such questions on 4chan.

But you are right that lying about that part of yourself, doesn't mean people can't see the real you in other ways.
But still you would be hiding that part of yourself.

My answer was it truly depends if you want to be seen, or better if you want to be seen for who you are in that area of your life, or not.
Not being seen, can create emotional distance, but it can also protect from rejection, I am not making a moral statement here, just reviewing your options

>>82833551 (OP)
yet another reason i refuse to lose my virginity

moids: women are so dishonest! this woman claims that she does a thing, and another woman claims that she doesnt do it!
also moids: fellas, should i lie?

enjoy your moid horniness epidemic

>>82833740
Women have extrasensory perception of men who are uncomfortable in their presence. They don't know if you're planning to kill them, but they absolutely do know if you're a sperg who has never been with a woman.

>>82833588
>Like how women are cold all the time and heat is expensive
dont remind me how bad i wanna be cuddled and make a moid hot chocolate and make him scarves, cause i know any moid who acts like he enjoys being around his sexual partner is lying

>>82833589
why would i want a moid who isnt a virgin?

>>82833756
man...
you need to consider suicide instead, lol

>>82833551 (OP)
never tell a woman your numbers... high or low.. let her create the fantasy in her head that you've fucked tons of chicks, and could fuck more if you weren't with her. if she likes you, she will naturally think these thoughts.

>>82833778
>HOW DARE THIS EVIL WAHMAN BLAME ME FOR DOING SOMETHING THAT I ACTUALLY DID!! I WAS LYING WHEN I SAID IM AGAINST LYING

>>82833777
>>why would i want a moid who isnt a virgin?
Some girls do, most do not.

>>82833551 (OP)
Lmao I'm 28yo khhv and I've not been in a position where I would have to lie because no one is interested in me.
I've come up with a lie for professional settings that I had a really bad experience when I was 20 and never had sex since, that way they feel bad and I don't really need to live a lie since they wouldn't ask any more questions.

Lie and say you had a gf
Nothing repels women faster than being an adult virgin

>>82833788
ah man, you recast the line, huh?
again, consider suicide, you moron
you aren't evil, you're just either massively retarded or too easily influenced and it shows
we got too many of you annoying faggots around this board

>>82833762
Like I said, I was a sperg who had never been with a woman, and yet she didn't know and she had sex with me. Don't let this sort of defeatism get to you, anon. You can get what you want out of this life if you don't tell yourself it's impossible.

>>82833832
A lot of women have no problem with you being a virgin and will be with you, they just won't believe you if you lie and tell them you have experience.

>>82833788
>>82833777
>>82833756

I think you are funny and cool.

And yeah you are right about people sometimes having a double standard against women.
But to be fair, OP never said such a things. No one here knows if he ever accused women of being serial liars in a bad way.
So technically you are projecting something OP did not say. I understand your frustration, but let's stay factual and not overgeneralize.

Ngl I dig the sufemacist schizo. I'll be your khhv incel moid and you can insult me all you want :3

>>82833878
Stand down chuddy I want her if she will have me

>>82833904
She'll reject us both for being stinky moids. Even the most misandrist of misandrists are chadsexual :(

>>82833777
Just remember when a foid is talking like this she's picturing a 10/10 6'4 model

>>82833551 (OP)
>hould you lie to women about having past sexual/romantic experiences if you're well past the age where having none is socially acceptable or should you just bite the bullet and be honest about it if asked
yes

>>82833942
What if she isn't though. What if I'm actually ok looking and she would want to be with me and we liked each other

>>82833575
>do you want to be seen for who you are
Of course not.
Why i would that?

>>82833551 (OP)
Testing
Ok

>>82833955
Then you'd be wise to do the best of talking yourself out of it, wouldn't you? It's better not to associate like that with anyone here.

>>82834079
She seems intelligent though.

>>82834082
She's ignoring us now :(

>>82833756
I would very much not want to lie but everyone has white lies
>>82833675
I would say from 23 and up it gets exponentially weirder every year until it plateus in weirdness by 30
>>82833705
This is is a nice thought but if a woman is my perfect match but would be initially put off by my lack of experience then would lying cause so much harm
>>82833747
This is true. I don't think anyone ever gets "seen" in the way that their whole self gets seen. I think even the people we love most there would be things we can't understand. Something like my struggles with virginity and inceldom isn't something I could see much gain in ever sharing with a woman even if we loved each other
>>82833807
I've lied before in groups of people, people always say no one ever asks but normies ask each other this all the time, all normies talk about is sex. Though that might be a college culture thing I haven't had anyone ask me about that since I left college
>>82833808
This is what I feel I would need to do but I'm a bad liar and would feel guilty about it. The world is cruel to sensitive young men

>>82834094
>would lying cause so much harm
well, you betrayed her trust from the start, lol
the reasons don't matter as much as the act, i mean, if you lied about your experience, how could she be sure you're not lying when you say you love her?
it may cause a lot more harm down the line than you think, but it depends on the girl i guess

>>82833821
fellas is it retarded to believe the things that moids say about themselves?

genuinely why would i doubt all the horrible shit moids proudly admit?

>>82833863
but moids themselves say that ALL moids lie for sex. and yet they call women dishonest

>>82833878
>>82833904
put on the maid dress

>>82833932
im a virgin volcel lol

>>82833942
imma be honest, there are two moids i picture. one is 6'4 (tits in the face) one is 5'3 (for fucking standing up, letting him sit on my lap and hugs on the waist)

also i feel like the only 11/10 is james madison. i have no idea why, but i want him to eat me out so bad its unreal. i literally had to start wearing liners cuz of james madison.

its rare for a healthy young moid to be unfuckable desu

>>82834196
come to think of it, it's crazy how moids lie for sex and then say they wanna open up

>>82834346
>>put on the maid dress
If you asked me to I would consider it and say no, but at least I would get to talk to you.

>>82834346
>is it retarded to believe the things that moids say about themselves?
it is retarded to refer to guys as "moids", for starters (as is referring to girls as "foids")
two, you think guys are fucking monoliths, that everyone is the same lying scumbag you're oh so afraid of
three, you're annoyingly stubborn so nothing i say will even get through to you, i could be a fucking paladin in shining armor, a paragon of virtue and you'd still deem me "evil" simply because my voice is deeper, i'm taller and i have something bigger between my legs than you do

but seriously, who am i kidding here, you're just a retarded baiter, kek
here to shake the ant jar and cause more dumpster fires as you go
so again, the board is full of your kind already, you can fuck off

>>82834359
die, lol

>>82834359
I want to be get to know you better, you're funny and smart. IF you gave me a chance I'd do my best to make you happy. I don't mind if you tell me I'm a disgusting moid who should die.

>>82834359
It's doomed if you do, doomed if you don't. You need to level up xp if you don't wanna die alone as a khhv moid

>>82833551 (OP)
for me, i would just say the truth, because for me a relationship is inherently about trust and being honest with the other person

with that said, i would go to a prostitute these days if i could get hard and afford it, but i cant, and i gave up entirely so i dont even care to

but if by some godlike intervention i was dateworthy, like some horny prettyboy, id be honest, and just be honest, and dont worry about the rest

if you feel insecure, go see prostitutes, or tell her that your post is none of her business. refusing to answer the question is a perfectly fair position

and you just have to assume that most girls these days are whores when dating them, so they also are very likely to lie to you or decieve you to get you to commit to them. personally i would be honest because i dont mind if these worthless whores are icked out by me, i hate them already so idc

>>82833551 (OP)
All foids are sluts used to fucking Chad woth hundreds of bc, if you say you have none they will see you as the oposite of Chad which is bad just say the normal body count they will see you closer to Chad which is good

>>82833551 (OP)
Women will be able to tell. They can also tell if you watch porn or not. I was honest during my first time and she was fine with it, but maybe that was because she was obsessed with the idea of being my first.

>>82834465
What even is a normal body count, like 4 or 5?

>>82834399
you moids say things like:
>men are simple creatures who only want food and sex
even though so much of what moids do can only be explained by malice...
and when i point out that yall wanna straight up torture women, some of yall admit that ur all like that and call it based
yall also say shit like:
>all men will commit rape if they think they can get away with it
>men are biologically wired to cheat (obv implying that moids dont control, themselves)
>men fib to get women to sleep with them, its in our genes, and no amount of complaining can change that.

WHY WOULD I NOT BELIEVE YOU?? you only get triggered when a WOMAN says that AMALT. you always agree when a moid says that AMALT

>die, lol
how dare i point how out illogical moids are.

also, we call yall moids to mock you... the hypocrisy is insane

>simply because my voice is deeper, i'm taller and i have something bigger between my legs than you do
>not like there are other differences between women and males or anything

>>82834419
>I'd do my best to make you happy
is this a joke on how the thread is about lying for sex

>>>82834436
"but i wanna do it so idc if its evil" this shit is why women are opting out, parasite. if moids cant get laid without being pieces of shit, they should stay virgin

>>82834465
more proof that moids are lying pieces of shit, which is why im a virgin. AMALT

>>82834725
Why exactly are you here?

>>82834725
I got laid because I acted like a piece of shit. I hate women so much its unreal.

>>82834752
This one is always funny,

>"all men are evil trash"
>proven statistically that women prefer evil trash
>blame men who's done nothing wrong for it

>>82834783
Best part was: She is outspoken about how much she hates Trump but let a chud who makes racist jokes to her face hit. Make it make sense.

>>82834725
It's not a joke, I want to make you happy.

>>82834802
I've come to the conclusion that women were created by God simply as a punishment upon men. I do not see how such an illogical, irrational and backwards creature ever made it through the evolutionary process.

>>82834725
Nah they're just opting in with Chad because they know he's not a virgin loser like me. Actually so unfair how rude foids are with delicate virgin males, cucking for triple count chad

>>82834725
>WHY WOULD I NOT BELIEVE YOU??
precisely because you're a moronic creature, lol
here's a revelation for you: you ever stop to think that people aren't the same? or that some people just say shit to fuck around and get a reaction out of you or they simply say shit they don't truly mean because they can get away with saying those, but not actually doing it?

>you only get triggered when a WOMAN says that AMALT
no, i'm just growing annoyed of you in particular because you're so fucking retarded and apparently naive, but again, you're likely a baiter just spouting this shit to get a kick out of me so i'm not much better for falling for it
>you always agree when a moid says that AMALT
lurk moar, newfaggot
i've stated before that both misandrists and misogynists are fucking idiotic and pathetic, and anyone who falls for gender war bullshit is equally as retarded
it matters not what you have or lack between your legs, you're a fucking IDIOT, period

>how dare i point how out illogical moids are.
more like how dare you keep shitting up the board with your nonsensical idiocy, lol
maybe if you had more than two brain cells, i wouldn't tell you to drop dead
>we call yall moids to mock you...
har har, and that works out SO well, doesn't it?
>oh lookie MOID, you're a stupid MOID, moid, why don't you go be a MOID somewhere else moid
you absolute moron, that sounds just as fucking retarded as-- wait a minute, huh
it makes sense now, you use that language BECAUSE you're such a fucking stupid moron, of course
yeah i can't blame you after realizing that, keep on doing that, kek

pic related, by the way

if you're actually pulling and think you could get laid you have two options
either be upfront and honest and take the risk for the sake of finding a woman that is either okay with it or likes it
or try to get laid a bunch as practice so you're more comfortable and relaxed when you do find someone to have a relationship with

the reality:
>you've never done it before? cute tehe
you'll be fine fags

>>82834941
finally, some fucking encouragement in this shit
i appreciate you anon, thank you for your post

>>82834941
I think you've been reading too many doujins, because that's the only place a girl is going to react like that to an adult virgin.
MAYBE if you're still a teenager, but not if you're old to to be expected to have had a girlfriend or two.

>>82834740
why do you respond?

>>82834752
i'm not the one who fucked you, retard

>>82834783
i'm a virgin because i dont want evil trash

>>82834851
youre so logical that you justify rape with "BUT I WAAANNNNNNNNNNAAAA AND SOME WOMEN LIKE MALES WHO ARE IMPOLIIIITE"

>>82834881
i'm a virgin. is chad supposed to be my shower?

>>82834898
i meant "why wouldnt i believe you when you say that all males are the same"
i believed for my whole life that all moids are different from each other. i only think that all moids are the same BECAUSE YALL ADMIT IT ffs

> or that some people just say shit to fuck around and get a reaction out of you or they simply say shit they don't truly mean because they can get away with saying those, but not actually doing it?
i know it's true because moids NEVER DISAGREE with moids who claim that AMALT. you literally only get triggered when women believe it.

fellas, is it retarded and naive to believe someone who admits that they have no self-control?

>lurk moar, newfaggot
i am already SO terminally online. i'll be damned if there's anything on this website that i don't expect.

>anyone who falls for gender war bullshit is equally as retarded
moids want sex slaves. i choose not to have sex. not even remotely equivalent

>more like how dare you keep shitting up the board with your nonsensical idiocy, lol
the nonsensical idiocy of believing moids when they say that all moids hate women and want to rape and torture us

>that works out SO well, doesn't it?
yes. it pisses y'all off so much, it's unreal. esp cause you moids love to say "it's just words"

>that sounds just as fucking retarded as-- wait a minute, huh
the things you say?? be so fucking serious right now

it's funny as hell being called a faggot. keep it up

>>82834960
i would prefer an unused moid. why would i be happy that he's been passed around? isn't he supposed to be special?

>>82834958
anytime. ygmi

>>82834960
got it from the wackiest doujin of all: personal experience

>>82834982
How old were you when this happened

>>82834974
I'm talking about real women not larpers
>>82834982
>got it from the wackiest doujin of all: personal experience
As in actual personal experience or just wishful personal fantasy

>>82834999
based trips
>How old were you when this happened
24

>>82835000
based trips again holy shit
>As in actual personal experience or just wishful personal fantasy
the former
helps that she was a virgin too

>>82834960
I made it though high school and college without a single girlfriend and she did not care

>>82834965
>i'm not the one who fucked you, retard
Yes but thats how they all act. Source: Went to a large university for four years.

>>82834974
what women say they like and how they act are two radically different things
please dont ever trust a roastie, lies and deception are so ingrained in her, its just second nature to lie about everything

you shouldnt lie to them because you make it the norm that lying is alright, which degrades your own respect for yourself over time. but women are worthless and not worth loving honestly

>>82833551 (OP)
don't try to build your relationship on a lie, it leaves you on unstable ground
at least if you're honest and open you know where you stand, y'know?
i lost my virginity at 23 to a 27 year old woman, she was kind and caring and reciprocated the honesty i shared with her
knowing it was my first time made her feel special, she put in a lot of effort and went with whatever pace i was comfortable with
ended up losing a lot of firsts to her, experiencing a lot of the fantasies i see talked about on here

>>82834965
>i only think that all moids are the same BECAUSE YALL ADMIT IT
... seriously? you keep surprising me with the depths of your idiocy, kek
so if we all told you the sky is green, would you believe it or would you go out there and see it with your own two eyes?
you fucking idiot, lol

>moids NEVER DISAGREE with moids who claim that
like what, in this site? you're in a fucking echo chamber, newfaggot
honestly it's not surprising a retard like you would take all we say for granted, you're unable to tell words from actions

>i am already SO terminally online.
lurk the FUCK moar, newfaggot
it's never enough, especially to a know-it-all cunt like you who thinks they know the minds of the people who wander in this cesspool
shut the fuck up and go back to lurking

>moids want sex slaves.
some do, but not all
the problem is you wanna group everyone into one big monolith and spout your nonsense at everyone for retarded reasons, which makes you a prime fucking moron
try growing a few more brain cells and some more awareness with them

>the nonsensical idiocy of believing moids when they say
blah blah blah, trust actions, not words
what are you, 12? how can someone be this fucking naive?

>it pisses y'all off so much, it's unreal.
top fucking kek, you really believe that don'tcha?
oh man that's so rich, i was right after all, you DO say stupid shit because you're an absolute buffoon
jesus fucking christ... stop wasting resources and off yourself already, for fuck's sake

>>82834982
>ygmi
aye, i sure hope so, my dude
most based poster in this thread award goes to you, wagmi

>>82835065
why didn't you wife her up retard

>>82835076
because i'm a mentally ill retard that feels incapable of maintaing a romantic relationship

>>82835099
based lol same

>>82835127
retards unite

>>82835191
hell yeah brother
solidarity

>>82835000
i'm a woman. virgin moids are less unappealing.
>>82835034
i havent gone to a fucking university. choose better women, retard

>>82835055
moids are the ones who literally admit that they are all rapists with no self-control. i'm a virgin, you're just making shit up instead of taking accountability as moids always do.
women have to use reason precisely because we don't get to punch our way out of every problem that we create. because moids do not have to worry about getting their ribcage shattered, they have no self-control.
if moids had reason, they would control their urges. they don't.

the whole fucking thread is moids bragging about being dishonest. and you tell MORE lies instead of taking accountability.

moids are the ones who constantly demand sex. the fact that there is a MALE horniness epidemic proved that moids are the worthless gender.

>>82835074
moids aren't... you aren't... you don't speak for the sky.
there is nothing to disprove that moids are motivated solely by horniness, hatred of women, and hunger.

>you're in a fucking echo chamber
yeah, i'm pretty much the only woman here.

>take all we say for granted
if you say that you are a sadistic rapist, any sane person will see you as a sadistic rapists.

>you're unable to tell words from actions
moids' actions only go to show that they are simple, sadistic creatures

>thinks they know the minds of the people who wander in this cesspool
doesn't get a whole lot more clear than "we're all rapists who hate women and want them to suffer"

>some do, but not all
the problem is you wanna group everyone into one big monolith and spout your nonsense at everyone for retarded reasons, which makes you a prime fucking moron
try growing a few more brain cells and some more awareness with them
moids admit that theyll all commit rape if they think they can get away with it, they also constantly beg for gov-issued sex slaves

>>82835074
>trust actions
your actions prove your words.

>stop wasting resources and off yourself already
you're using far more food than a woman needs in hopes of getting away with rape

you are triggered that i dont serve your sadostic desires

>>82836074
>less unappealing
*more appealing
don't use double negatives anon

If she asks just say a few gfs regardless of your past and give her the same treatment and let the past be
If she wants a deep dive make her give sames
If you don't wanna know its better to stamp your feet and say "if you wanna know mine i wanna know yours"
Pretty much buries the issue its not like its going to help a relationship digging up skeletons

>>82836111
i said it like that because moids are vermin. you arent appealing.

>>82836124
yet moids say women are the dishonest ones

>>82836074
>choose better women
But upper middle class 20-year-olds are the best women possible

>>82834346
I'm 5'4, be my gf? I'm employed and have my own place and have been asked out by sensitive femcels before like in highschool but fumbled the bag due to autism. i'm handsumb maybe i think

>>82833551 (OP)
I think that maybe you should avoid mentioning it. I wouldn't lie if asked directly about it, as I'm aware that it's a major deal-breaker for like every woman. But it's on her to ask me about things she finds important. I'm not going to shoot myself in the foot voluntarily.

>>82833551 (OP)
I have 0 desire for non-virgin women (read: whores), and a fellow virgin would only see it as a positive. I wouldn't ever lie if I'm looking for a long term relationship. And if you're looking for a hookup, I don't see why that topic would even come up. Just fuck and get it over with, she doesn't need to know your life story lol

lying is crazy to me
and it drains you too
im just honest
it filters out girls i dont click with anyway
you just do mental gymnastics because youre afraid
but im a khhv so who cares

>>82833551 (OP)
>Should you lie to women about having past sexual/romantic experiences if you're well past the age where having none is socially acceptable or should you just bite the bullet and be honest about it if asked
You have to fucking lie.
Their biggest red flag are late-age virgins, and hopelessly under-experienced men.
It immediately marks you as defective to them, and they go drier than the Sahara.
Guys must have a stock bullshit story about an old relationship/hook-up, or give good reasons why they've gone years without sex.