Thread 82879727

>a girl *wants* to be a submissive and obedient housewife.
Don't you think that at least at that point it could be said that she has internalised misogyny?

>>82879727 (OP)
Yeah I think so too. Especially if she would use the words "submissive and obedient".

>>82879727 (OP)
>a girl wants to do something that goes against 2025s new normal
>this apparently means she has internalised misogyny
kys faggot i just wanna stay home and be a neet and cooking is a hobby for me. i refuse to EVER work

>82879744
>that goes against 2025s new normal
Women are still pretending that being le based tradwife NEET fucking leech who won't put any effort into anything including sex is like totally counterculture and rare

Literally all of you are fucking copypasted

>>82879727 (OP)
if that makes me sexist then im fine being sexist.

>>82879756
i dont care what you think.
if its brings you any solace its not like ill marry anyway

>>82879727 (OP)
This is the only healthy state for a woman to be in. Every other state invites dysfunction and misery for her and everyone around her.

>>82879774
>>82879744
You will work. In the camps. And youll be supervised by other women

>>82879727 (OP)
If she uses the terms submissive and obedient and posts pictures of big totted anime girls eating to exemplify her ideas, it's probably a kink for her.

>>82879792
there are no camps.
im not american.
they cannot make me work. my government gives me $1300 a month in disability just for existing

Do I sound like a pick-me girl if I think that this is what women should be by default?

>>82879805
Chambre-au-gas is to the left :^)

>>82879814
awesome.
ill take it

>>82879744
hello future wife, what's for lunch tomorrow?

>>82879727 (OP)
Not necessarily, but it speaks to irresponsibility. The housewife dream is totally dead in 2025 as you cannot survive on a single person's income anymore.

No. She can want for herself what she wants for herself, without it being a statement of how other men and women can/should/must be.

>>82879835
Not true, you can as long as you're not obsessed with materialism.

>>82879813
no, but you can be my pick-me wife.

>>82879727 (OP)
No. I would need to hear a coherent argument why that's misogynist. As it stands, I think it's retarded to think that. If that's what a woman wants to do, then she should be free to go for it.

>>82879827
How many kids do you want? Asking for a friend

>>82879813
No you sound cute and normal. Sadly most men don't make enough money to afford that.

>>82879727 (OP)
If it was up to me there should be mandatory housewife training for girls.
Like classes where girls learn both housewife skills and submissive attitude.

>>82879727 (OP)
weird thing is about how feminists fetishize the handmaids tale when we guys don't even know what that even means. I think I saw a pic and it was women wearing bonnets. Feminists want bonnets?

That's just being a normal woman, literally nurturing. Even a woman that doesn't want to be a housewife should want to cook for you

>>82879835
American woman translation note: """survival""" means your iphone is one generation behind the latest, your closet is full because it's not a walk in, and there is no plan to repair the cosmetic damage to the household's secondary vehicle.

>>82879920
bro how do i get one?

>>82879882
This used to actually be the case. It was called home economics and involved cooking and sewing. It got nerfed and eventually cancelled.

>>82879883
The first season of the show (not book) where the feminists are getting fucked over is awesome. Then it turns to shit.

S1 was SO good that feminists were complaining that there was no respite from the demoralisation.

kek

>>82879920
Maybe if you hit the treadmill somebody would want you too.

>>82879920
>oozing bitterness
sorry you were a fat chick in high school

>>82879727 (OP)
im a girl and i want this i do not care if it makes me sound sexist or if it is "betraying the sisterhood". all i want is to dote on my husband who loves me.
is that really too much to ask??

You guys are fucking stupid. An average woman wants nothing to do with men who want "submissive and obedient" housewives.

>>82879756
Because it still is counterculture and will continue to be counter culture until women in hollywood movies and western tv shows act like anime girls and literally dream of becoming housewives.

>>82879883
I think its a show about men taking over America and forcing women to serve powerful men and only the top 20% of women get fucked by their slave masters. All the women who watch the show think and fantasize that they are the top 20% that exist to get raped by a rich powerful abuse chad.

>>82880055
isnt it time for your dilation break?

>>82879920
>how dare you not hate men
LMFAO I love the seething rage this image has

>>82880036
Yes it is. Get to work you lazy NEET

>>82880115
>. All the women who watch the show think and fantasize that they are the top 20% that exist to get raped by a rich powerful abuse chad.
oh okay things are connecting now, someone said the handmaids tale cosplays were of the color of the top 20% that got to be fucked by the chads

>>82879727 (OP)
Not really, it's rational self-interest. They get everything provided for them for the cost of sex with someone they're attracted to and cooking 2 portions instead of 1 (optional). Beats a job.
Guys like it because women are like walking opioids and they get to keep one all to themselves.
It makes sense to me that some guys would take exception to the idea and see it as parasitic, but women who hate the idea are completely incomprehensible to me.

>>82879727 (OP)
Whys it seem like women with "internallized misogyny" are all happy while empowered feminists are eternally seething and bitter?

>>82879727 (OP)
Loves makes a simp out of you

>if a woman wants something I don't, then it's clearly some external locus of control thing because they just cannot want something I don't

Methinks blaming "misogyny" won't address your warped outlook.

>>82879727 (OP)
No, I think shes just too lazy to work and trying to make it an aesthetic

>>82880168
So I just looked into it. The girls in red, the ones that all the girls dress up as are basically breeders. So its actually even worse because there are another class of women that are the wives but the wives are infertile and do all the high class wife stuff while another class of women do all the chores. The girls in red are literally forbidden from working so they exist as fuck meat for producing children because there is a fertility crisis.

Let me tell you a story about my life:
When I was 19 there was this one guy who was interested in me. I kinda liked him too, but I didn't want to commit to anything and wanted to see what other options I could have had. In my HS I was told I was smart and I should pursue higher education.
So in my early 20's I basically completely focused on my studies, while having casual hook-ups and FWBs.
Now I have a bullshit degree and a shit dead-end job.
That guy now has a wife and 2 kids with a third one coming. His wife has no education above high school, and she is basically a housewife, having a part time job that is basically a hobby at their local clothing boutique.
Now I still think I am smarter than an average person, and that my life experiences should not be generalized in any way to apply to all women, but I hate it with burning passion that in today's world "being empowered" is sold as meaning "being career focused".

>>82880487
rip lmao
you could have been his bimbo

>>82880487
im 18 and im basically in the same situation rn. do you have any suggestions what should i do?

>>82879727 (OP)
Thank you for reminding me to catch up on Tonikaku Kawaii
I love Tsukasa!

>>82880624
If you can you should go yo college tho.

>>82879727 (OP)
No, she's just a parasitic leech who wants to be a NEET.

>>82880624
If you can you should go to college tho. Just consider carefully what you will study and how.

i wanna be a housewife and a mommy. i wanted it ever since i was 6

>>82880487
Still would have been a gamble, what guarantee did you have that he would turn out to be able to sustain a housewife? An education gives you safety when you're on your own.

>>82880867
And what is stoping you to become that?

>>82880889
You know what, I think you're right. At least I have an education and I'm not dependent on a man.

>>82880915
It's like how you COULD buy some new epic crypto meme and make 100x returns. Or just lose all the money you put into it. Better to just invest in a boring index fund like everyone else.

>>82880921
Hollow comfort. All I want is to be someone's, for the lack of better words, submissive and obedient housewife.

Imagine not having to think about what happens outside of the house.

>>82880921
What are the 100x returns in this context? Getting married and having kids?

>>82881096
You will be a wagie for Steinbergs corporation and you will will like it, if you work really hard you might be able to afford to freeze your eggs, besides why would a man ever consider marrying a old used up hag when millions of stacies turn 18 every day

>>82881128
If you personally value it that highly, sure. It's subjective.
>>82881132
God I wish I worked for Steinberg, Cubase is fucking dope.

>>82881132
Fuck it.
My opinion now is that it should be illegal to encourage girls to become anything other than wives and mothers.

>>82881096
>>82881172
Please don't be a larp and be from europe.

I don't think it's inherently sexist no. I wanted to be a housewife because I'm an overthinking ball of anxiety. Now that I am one I don't really have to worry much about stuff outside the household and that has really improved my mental health

>>82881172
Gigabased. I honestly think this would fix literally all society's problems.

>>82881172
In addition to this there should be mandatory attitude fixing classes for girls, no?

>>82881172
Stop simping nigger, women as a collective literally asked for this, they would rather be a CEO's prostitute for a day then a wife to a average man.

>>82881096
Is the perfect example of this, she isn't seething about not being a housewife or getting pumped and dumped by chad but rather missing out on the gains of male labour whilst she plays house of the wages of a man.

>>82880889
That would have been a gamble but the path she took guarantees unhappiness. Why force yourself into a loss just because taking chances doesn't guarantee a win?

Here's how to fix society:
>Make it illegal to encourage girls into higher education
>Have mandatory homemaking and submission-to-husbands classes for girls
>Decriminalize marital rape (abuse ofc should still be illegal)

>>82880624
Find a man, don't be a whore in college.

>>82880889
I guess this doesn't apply to women but a college degree these days is also a huge gamble
t. Unemployed compsci gong on two years

>>82882016
Just get rid of all the diversity bullshit. Business owners should be allowed to exclusively hire men. The problem would quickly be solved. This also works for race.

Honestly I can't think of anything more anti-freedom than forcing people who they can and can't serve as a business.

>>82882016
at this point this would be an improvement given the state of our society
t. foid

>>82882016
I do think marital rape should be legal, as long as it is not violent.

>>82882016
Save society for whom? For rapist slave owners? Pass

another day another reason to never date or get married ever :p

>>82882189
Collective social cohesion

This thread made me realize that feminism is bad even for women.

>someone wants to be a housewife
>"INTERNAL MISOGYNY! IRRESPONSIBLE! WEAK!"
Like, what the fuck?

>>82882215
I know you are strawmanning here but ultimately feminism (much like basically all cultural leftism) is what I like to call a "deconstructive ideology": it isn't *for* anything, only against (against patriarchy, gender roles etc.).

>>82882215
It is not that being a housewife is bad, but rather submitting to a man out of gender reasons and somehow idealizing it as well.
I'm no woke sjw but I don't think we should idealize female submission.

>>82882245
wait genuine question of why? i know most people think submission as this degrading thing but i understand it doesn't have to be
but i can't ever view myself in that scenario because i can't understand it, i'd want to be equals

>>82882245
>being a housewife is submission
You people cannot be serious. This has to be a troll.

>>82882207
We would have collective social cohesion if men were enslaved for babymaking and hard labour and civil society consisted of only women. If you really value collective social cohesion, get strapped to the milking machine bitch

>>82882277
wouldn't work because of women themselves, amusingly. society has clearly shown us how rich and successful women do not want a housedad.

>>82882215
But it's not bad for them. It might make them less happy in the long term, but you don't win games by employing the most fun strategy. Working fake management jobs gives them more money, freedom and power than waiting at home for some beaten down wagie ever could. By the time men stop being readily available to soothe their loneliness and boost their ego, it's already too late for them to have kids, let alone change course.
We live in an age where young men are poorer than ever and young women are wealthier than ever, so where's the benefit to the latter in tying themselves down to the former? Love is just an excuse - even most women who want to be housewives do so out of laziness or stupidity, not because they love a particular man and, conversely, feminists rarely find themselves suddenly start wanting to become tradwives as a result of finding love.

>>82882016
>abuse
This still creates the 1 phone call situation and ends society.

The household is the social unit and the Patriarch weilds power over the house and everyone in it, up to and including death. Not because killing household members is expected to be common but because anything else allows the government to wedge itself between members of the household and incentivise breakdown of that household.

>>82880248
And lets not forget that the author's inspiration was the treatment of women in Islam.

>>82882390
Jesus Fucking Chris... You truly are a product of modern society.
I don't think saying anything more to you is useful, because in your mind you can't even fanthom the idea of 2 people still being able to live and be happy with average to low incomes.

>>82882277
If this actually happened, you wouldn't have to strap us to the table. Which is why it would never happen.

>>82882470
I can fathom it, it's just irrational. Women are objectively better off with education and jobs than they are being "happy with low to average incomes" and feminists are right to tell them so. It means they're less likely to have kids, but it's lower on their list of priorities than it is on men's anyway.

>>82882470
>>82882579
If that's a concern for you, you can try pushing for the incentive structure to favor women becoming housewives by enforcing mandatory pro-male discrimination in both hiring and salary, but I think most women would (correctly) have objections to such a policy.

>>82882265
Submission -> inferiority -> inequality
Not a difficult concept.

>>82882631
>ending the gender wage gap led to human extinction
This is not how it was supposed to go!

>>82882744
That would be the funniest shit ever. Ever.

>>82882744
>human extinction
It's just doomposting. What those highly ""successful and progressive"" women fail to notice is how the ones breeding the most right now are people of colors with no jobs. And guess who's going to be the next labor force hired at a minimum price in the next coming years? But I guess it's not our problem since we'll be dead by then huh.

>>82882862
Why would that matter to them at all? Most of them aren't racist, and the future is being sold either way.

Need more foid input in this thread

>>82883075
The foid input (me) is that I should probably not have input in this thread.

>>82883248
A man is telling you you should!

>>82879727 (OP)
>>a girl *wants* to be a submissive and obedient housewife.
you mean "sexy"?
>>82879920
chat, where do I get one of those? need me some warm cuddles and sloppy head for +5 hours

>>82883293
nta but theehee
i wanna have a man telling me how to think

>>82883304
If you actually have something to bring to the table, they will come to you. But you don't actually have anything to bring to the table, do you anon?

>>82883410
>But you don't actually have anything to bring to the table, do you anon?
The most useless male in existance can get a girlfriend, much like the evil or hideous men. it's not a matter of qualities or benefits, it's about being banned from life by life

>>82879727 (OP)
I think you've got it wrong, this is their decision, so it's not sexist

Sexist would be saying that all women should be housewives, but no one says that right? (except actual retarded people)

i get what you're saying though, "isn't it inherently sexist that women are okay with the idea being housewives just cause they're women?" but don't treat women who don't act or think like you, as if they were stupid, they know what they're doing, and okay with it, so what's the matter

I know i'm bias cause i do like housewives and stuff (just cause japan makes them look nice, i think the concept is antiqued but once you put a modern man and woman in the position it looks less unhappy and just looks comfy) buutt, i think you and me both need to understand that.. People just live their lives and that's that

Also working isn't everything, don't you have hobbies that you enjoy and that you would like to be doing instead of working or whatever? If not.. I recommend having them, or you'll be miserable in the future, cause working doesn't replace actual likings and motivation to do things that you genuinely enjoy, i can assure you. live for yourself, that's what life is about i think

>>82880636
Duuuuddeeeeeee so based, hey just so you know.. Cause i tell everybody this

READ AS ASYRA PER ASPERA

Same author, is fucking awesome and i need to build an army of tards who will pressure hata into continuing it, thanks

>>82883474
It's sexist against men because becoming a househusband is not a real option.

>>82883536
Yeahh well.. Tbh as a man, i've never cared about this, you can call me simp, but to me it makes seance that women get the better piece of the cake if they so desire, i've always thought that men who complain about this. women getting the kids most times or whatever are huge pussies

But that's probably cause i have 3 sisters and if any of them didn't get special treatment from the world just cause some small dick retard cried harder than a baby in an airplane i'd be mad af

>>82883602
Just because you want what's best for your sisters doesn't mean it's not sexist. Do they extend this logic back to you?

>>82883635
I mean yeah i guess you're right, it is sexist

But i wonder how many men would agree with you that's the thing, cause i'll admit, i have a double standard and i will look at you weirdly if i find out you're a househusband, i would be okay with you doing that, and i wouldn't judge you, but i'd still feel weird about it

So yeah, guess you're right m8

>>82879727 (OP)
It's sexist to not put a woman in her place. Fuck her while she's in an apron in the kitchen and then yank her by the throat when you cum and tell her to get back to cooking

I dont wanna be "this person" and I would not consider being a housewife, but somehow the idea of submitting to a powerful man makes me feel kindaaaa ....funny

>>82880487
Your ovaries will dry up and your cats will eat your face.
gg no re

>>82883536
>>82884049
Being a housewife/husband sounds nice because you don't need to do any of the heavy lifting literally or figuratively. America needs to give men and women opportunities again. There's no direction or plan for this country or humanity.

>>82884394
I want to have a husband who genuinely lusts after me and that's his source of his dominating energy.

Can we collectively as a society stop talking about "women's empowerment"?

>>82880487
>So in my early 20's I basically completely focused on my studies, while having casual hook-ups and FWBs.
>while having casual hook-ups and FWBs.
theres your problem.
Instead of riding the cock carusell, you should have used your time in education to lock down a shy nice nerdy STEM guy who's never been in a relationship and make him your husbandu.
You could have the same life as the other woman except possibly even better as both you and your hubby could theoretically earn more in your respective jobs.

You just traded working for the betterment of yourself, your children, your soulmate, and your family that loves you and supports you in exchange for working in a soulless megacorp that'd drop you the moment you're no longer profitable.
Nice "empowerment" you got there, lmao.

>>82884721
You talk like a fag and your shit is all retarded.

Women belong in the kitchen

>>82885369
>trusting modern women with your food

>>82885599
No, I love cooking

i want a hubby who is dommy. how do i attract such?

Okay so I know it is a bit "old-fashioned" and sexist and belittling to be a "submissive housewife" but why does the idea of being one appeal to me so much?

>>82879727 (OP)
any girls here willing to be submissive and obedient wife to a 3/10 avoidant neet

>>82879727 (OP)
No, but if she doesn't have some form of financial independence then she is stupid. Most housewives do not love their husbands and just use them as wallets.

>>82886458
I grew up in a loving household with a working dad and a loving housewife mom.

is it possible to find a robot husband to be a housewife to?

>>82886897
Women are not the target audience for robot companionship, they've never been interested in them. That's why the sexdoll industry is mostly filled with female dolls.

>>82886919
i meant robot from here....

>>82886974
Oh... Like, the old fashioned robots? I don't even think they're still here. The population has shifted a few years ago.