Thread 82897631

The whole foundation of leftism is to feel bad for people but why should I? Why should I care if Palestinians are starving or if Africans are dying of aids? No one has ever answered this

>>82897631 (OP)
Political power. If you are someone's investor, you have power over them. Have you noticed that the USA is bowing out of these things, and China is eagerly cutting in? At least where there is political capital to be made in building infrastructure.

>>82897631 (OP)
The foundation of leftism is that everyone should be equal and lack of access to goods is a barrier to equality. I don't agree with that per se but it has nothing to do with feeling bad for people.

>>82897631 (OP)
Because if it was happening to you, it would feel pretty shitty

>>82897670
The idea here is that others might do it to me so it would be logical to just wipe them out before they pose any threat to me then. So having compassion for others is essentially a risky thing

>>82897631 (OP)
abdul would never feel bad for me if i were in his position, he'd probably freak out and try to behead me if he knew i ate bacon last week

>>82897659
This and branding, once people see you as a (((trustworthy))) brand its easier for them to do business with you

>>82897680
>just kill anyone who is different from me theory
lol.

>>82897711
but enough about muslim ideology

>>82897711
The game theory on that is so fucking stupid too like you're risking personal annihilation for very little gain. Cooperation is almost always the optimal path. Even if the other player is betraying you're still supposed to pepper in cooperates from time to time to try to incentivize them to stop betraying.

>>82897724
>Even if the other player is betraying you're still supposed to pepper in cooperates from time to time to try to incentivize them to stop betraying.
actually you team up with other players to bully them off the server

>>82897724
NOOOO DON'T YOU KNOW I SHOULD JUST KILL EVERYONE WHO I DISAGREE WITH?

of course the type of loser to make kkk art of chinese cartoons is the same weak jaw cuck who would've hidden under a cloak 200 years ago

>>82897735
>actually you team up
Sounds like cooperation to me

>>82897724
>>82897724
Does game theory take into account your people becoming a minority and how others might be driven by ideologies that seek to dominate you. Plus we cooperate since it's in our best interest what is in our interest in feeding Africa and stopping Jews from curb stomping Palestinians?

>>82897742
Oh im not that anon I just wanted to jump in

>>82897631 (OP)
what happens when you're the one who gets screwed over, anon?
The rich only care about themselves and their fortunes, if you aren't a 1%er you have the same enemies as Palestinians and starving Africans. We're ruled by people who will kill hundreds of thousands of people if it means their defense stocks go up, and would kill you if they could get away with it - isn't that a problem?

>>82897773
>would kill you if they could get away with it
so would the people you try to shame your countrymen into aiding, it's fine if you're suicidal but don't drag the rest of us into it

>>82897750
You do realize the chinese are heavily investing into african development with african countries to help benefit them in the future? Africa is a resource rich continent with high potential to be a super power in the future. Sure you can frame it as "they're taking advantage of them", but the reality is africans are heavily benefitting from the money and investment being pumped into their economies. When it comes to Israel and Palestinians, we have a vested interest in monitoring the middle east considering alot of countries want to nuke israel if they could. However, we dont want israel to just act out like an unleashed dog. Soft power exists dude. Also, the fact your worried about becoming a minority tells me you're likely a white american who is terrified of becoming a minority and thinks once they become a minority, they'll face the same oppression they used to do themselves. Truth is nobody will be "outbred". It'll likely turn to most people breeding with different races and groups, coming to a more general race.

>>82897773
>rich only care about themselves and their fortunes,

The rich make corporations that employ me and enrich me as well. I might not be rich as them but I gain from them so it makes no sense to turn on them for some sand nigger thousands of miles away under guise of class solidarity. Plus rich don't kill those they gain power from atm so killing ones who work on their farms and tax support base has no strategic interest. Killing Palestinians to make Gaza a place people can settle and benefit from does make sense.

because leftists rely on critical literacy to enforce your worldviews through the use of language and definition restructuring, while also changing fundamental learning concepts (ie. moving from phonics to whole language when learning to read) to help reduce your ability to critically think or otherwise question their idea of the status quo, despite explicitly trying to teach you to be critical of the powers in place that resemble their idea of power disparity
the fact that this approach to think critically about power disparity and bias's in writing and reading simultaneously makes people more malleable and subject to question, will somehow not be used to question the same ones who eroded into power, is lost on them.

>>82897797
>You do realize the chinese are heavily investing into african development with african countries to help benefit them in the future?
https://www.afrogazette.co.zw/limpopo-farmers-feast-on-30-donated-cows-instead-of-launching-farming-project/
itsallsotiresome.jpg

>>82897796
I simply don't believe that.
Most of the people that imperialist governments target are just ordinary people, a small proportion are rebel fighters fighting for there own country's freedom or a different system of government.
Only a tiny percentage of psychos want me, an ordinary citizen who opposes wars, dead - and it's as easy if not easier to find "free helicopter rides" types in my own country.

>>82897797
>chinese are heavily investing into african development with african countries to help benefit them in the future? Africa is a resource rich continent with high potential to be a super power in the future.


Chinese could just as easily kill Africans and just take their resources but don't due to international law which makes it risky. Plus they're developing Africa so they can sell more cheap Chinese goods to increase revenue so it's self interested in end. The system of capitalism makes it so that lending credit to niggers to buy new iPhone is beneficial to corporations who only think in short term. Sane corporations who have enabled global warming

>>82897802
>and enrich me as well
until the next recession, they want slaves, not equals.
If you're really doing better than you would be if we expropriated them and doled out the wealth they produce equally you're one of the lucky ones.

>>82897631 (OP)
leftists only feel bad for immigrants and trannies. the literally hate poor people.

>>82897831
>they could just kill them
or....they could develop since it's like the only continent with a positive birth rate? Meaning that future potential market to sell to? And i said yes, it's self-interested. Most things are. What im saying is, two people working together self-interestedly, will preform better than 1 person who just blitzkriegs any fucker he doesn't agree with philosophically. This has been demonstrated for literally all of nature.

>>82897839
I live on avg better quality of life than most people due to corporations that have facilitated massive gdp growth which has trickled down to me anon.

>>82897839
Yeah, they will be on your side until they notice a way to make a quick buck. Then will foreclose your house, have the government bail them out. And have the county sheriff evict you.

>>82897860
>they could develop since it's like the only continent with a positive birth rate? Meaning that future potential market to sell to?

Why should exponential growth matter in this case at all? Why should we burden environment any much further so boogu from Angola can live life of middle class American while global temperature increases and more of environment gets destabilized due to urban growth.
>two people working together self-interestedly, will preform better than 1 person who just blitzkriegs any fucker he doesn't agree with philosophically.

Only game we are playing makes it so that working with others is more incentivizing. If west had North Korean economic policy than killing third world would make much more sense.

>>82897839
joe chud doesn't want to go to prison over you so he probably won't kill you over petty disagreement, the average """asylum seeker""" doesn't practice this restraint, the very first thing hamas did during this ceasefire is start rounding up and executing any of their citizenry that would threaten their power, these people are not compatible with us, they never will be

>>82897885
okay, then what are your goals as a society? Do you want to develop, do you not want to maybe switch to more efficient energies? Do you just want to live as a masterrace sorta thing? Im asking genuinely.

>>82897920
What ever is beneficial to my people so feeding or giving aid to others who can't survive by themselves shouldn't be my priority.

>>82897939
and let's say giving them aid, grants you access to resources that further benefits your people? Like more efficient fuels?

>>82897946
So why keep them alive? Plus of automation begins can't I go pass middle man

>>82897946
for example, africa, countries in the middle east, have things like cobalt and platinum. Things that are incredibly valuable when building EVs for their batteries, which would be alot better for the environment and atmosphere

>>82897949
>>82897694
Bad for business amigo

>>82897949
well then you risk wasting resources of your own to kill them. Other countries will come to their aid, or team up with them to take over. Unless you'd like to wage an all out war on the entire continent.

>>82897955
So why do we need people? If resources are what we need why should people living there be of any concern

>>82897962
>you risk wasting resources of your own to kill them.

You could genetically modify a virus or automated drones to wipe them out as efficiently as possible plus it'd be less than amount of resources over decades trying to build up their infrastructure and develop their nations.

>>82897967
oh, you're just really edgy and xenophobic. Huh.

>>82897631 (OP)
Why should you care about anything? Either you do or dont. There's no reason behind morality. You either care about others or you dont. Neither is really rational.

>>82897982
I'm not being edgy though, I myself am from Middle East and much of resource extraction is done by western contractors while most of my compatriots do nothing than consume western goods.

>>82897985
Further question: if toure totally ammoral and dont care about others well being, why be a white nationalist at all? Why value white people as a collective? Wouldn't make more sense just to be a selfish egoist or whatever?

>>82897982
alot of people are literally just fueled by the urge to kill people they vehemently disagree with, and mask it under a frame of "muh cold intellectualism", not realizing how just murdering people you dont like is one of the quickest ways to have your society outcompeted, I mean the guy is literally using a website made from a country that was nuked, that then went on to be huge allies to the west and both are severely well off for it. Kid is probably in his late teens to early twenties. Give him a break.

>>82898021
>Why value white people as a collective

Because ite an identity that would benefit me overall to group myself with. We seek groups and identities to increase odds of our survival.

Completely ignored my take, what a waste of time, not even a fun bait thread

>>82898035
So is it purely instrumental? Ill ask you this: do you care what happens to the white race after your death?

>>82898048
he'll say yes because of his offspring.

>>82898048
Tbh once I die whether or not I care doesn't matter so having group I identify with be most competitive or powerful should be in my interest, no?more powerful my group is the more likely I can live longer and my offsprings can multiply which is end goal of evolution.

this is unrelated but I'm looking for a video
I saw last night it was a bunch of Israelis taking organs from the dead does anyone know what happened to it

>>82897680
You are literally the uncivil subhuman animal you hate so much. You would unironically be what you consider an invader if you were brown or black

>>82897631 (OP)
>>82897660
I don't feel bad, I feel hopeful for the future and that everyone will recognize division as a tool for the powerful to remain in control.

Marx showed profits can't go up forever, so their system has an expiration date. The AI bubble popping will show that they can't overcome this with technology.

It will be very simple to take the reins from the people who corrupted our communities and it will start with extending grace to people you know and see regardless of what they look like or believe. You can also work on your abilities in the meantime to become stronger for when things will be fixed. After a time it will suddenly come one day that we'll mend things together.

>>82897631 (OP)
>The whole foundation of leftism is to feel bad for people
where do you people crawl out of?

>>82898178
>I feel hopeful for the future and that everyone will recognize division as a tool for the powerful to remain in control.

You should unite with these people chuds instead of Albert who goes to same church as you that owns quarry that employs most of people in town

>>82898188
it literally is though, dumbarse

>>82898079
Evolution has no goal. Its a description of how self replicating systems behave, not a god with intentions

>>82898269
I didn't imply evolution has a goal but rather one of core mechanism of evolution is natural selection which optimizes survival of individuals and populations in a certain environment. As an individual following may self preservation instincts it is in my utmost interest that my group is most powerful and is able to monopolize resources for group.

>>82897631 (OP)
Not really, they just arbitrarily target some groups and protect others. They don't really have morals anymore.

>>82898263
how so? what is that "leftism" even?
I don't think we operate on the same definitions
>>82898309
>I didn't imply evolution has a goal
you've stated that explicitly

>>82897911
the people executed were members of criminal gangs that were blocking the distribution of humanitarian aid in collaboration with Israel
Or at least those were the charges against them, and there's reason to believe they're legit; why is the westoid and Israeli press, which ignored or celebrated the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Gazans, so bothered by these particular executions?
Plus there was a guy who refused Israeli demands to collaborate so Israel airstruck and killed his whole family, we know Israel was at least looking for gangs they could link with