Thread 82899219

The greatest man ever to live.

>go to /v/
>coomer content
>cp

I was realizing this site needs to literally clean up the mess somehow, it's just not addressing the elephant in the room.

game has good art, economy, military, no multiplayer, rarely does game have it all.

My favorite part of his story was when he led his cult of twelve guys to do nothing and then got executed by the cops very easily.

I guess anno, everything else is rts slop, I have to wait for it to be on sale again though.

>>82899359
Jesus hate is so basic.

anno on sale via humble
based jesus

>>82899379
Fine. We'll jump straight to Jesus bottom porn if that's how you feel.

>>82899426
Be respectful

>>82899434
jesus says to turn the other cheek

anno 1404 online not supported anymore good thing I googled I guess just 1800 which is getting old as well. I also got tropico 4,5 and 6 from humble which I guess has multiplayer. Really want a city builder with military multiplayer.

>>82899426
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ban porn and watch it ree

>>82899438
Amen

>Iffith thy enemy doth penetrate thee in a manner anally, thou turnest thine other butt check and get pumping. -Zebbidiah 10:42

The Gnostic Jesus is the real Jesus. The story of the Christian Jesus is the work of dark forces that tryy to hold consciousness down in endless ways, one of them being to create a worm-like dependecy on an external angry, judgmental God who's a million miles away, terrifying and completely unapproachable, causing us to give our immense power away.

Pro-tip: Jesus is your Higher Self; he told me.

>t. hear from him on a daily basis

I literally can't create a ubisoft account to play anno 1800 I'm cursed

>>82899574
you just want to sin and are a faggot not so deep down probably

>>82899426
>>82899462
Even as a non-christian, mocking Jesus has always put a bad taste in my mouth. The monty Pythons didn't even go that fair in Life of Brian. Jesus is not deserving of mocking. The people following him sometimes are, though.

wow now it's because I tried too many times try again later because too many attempts. No anno tonight, I guess I'll play halo mc collection.

>>82899626
it's low iq to hate Jesus I realized. The highest IQ person is a devout Christian. The game has changed satan.

It's undeniable Jesus Christ is a historical figure, like Alexander the Great or Socrates. What requires faith is that he was a divine figure that performed miracles and was the Son of God. Christianity hijacked Western Civilization with Constantine becoming Christian and Europe has been mostly Christian ever since.

>>82899610
There is no sin, friend. And hell doesn't exist, but as an elaborate control structure of the mind. Everyone is innocent; the guilt they feel is manufactured.

A faggot deep down? Eh, not really, I like girls, but you're not too close from the ballpark. I'm a free man, Morpheus. A free man.

>>82899678
Gnostic Chritianity is probably the most spiritual sect of Christianity that exists today. Most modern Catholics and Orthodox Christians are mostly doing it for the tribal community aspect.

>>82899700
Hello fellow gnosisbro.

Yes, Gnosticism, specifically the Nag Hammadi texts, is the most accurate portrayal of the truth available on the planet. Like every religion and every book out there, not all of it is true, however, you still have to be discerning.

>>82899678
Thats not true there are obvious sins. Murder is a grave sin. So is rape.
Adultery is a sin. So is gambling. Prostitution. Theft is a sin. So is lying especially if you're under oath and giving sworn testimony. Drug addiction is a sin. Abortion is a sin

>>82899626
No actually many Christians follow the idea of Jesus and are upstanding people while the actual Jesus of the gospels is a whiny super narcissistic zoo sadist with no redeemable qualities.

>>82899745
Says who? Do babies and young children perceive sin, or just indoctrinated adults?

All sin is illusory. Yes, "sin" is destructive and harmful, yet it is not a stain on the spirit. The spirit is, and always has been as pure as a newborn baby.

>>82899784
Based on universal human response
If you murder someone everyone in your immediate vicinity will become concerned. The same with Rape. These are sins they also raise your wanted level.

>>82899822
Humans do not dictate what sin is. Cause in that case, being gay is no longer sin in the western world, which is majorly Christian. Sin means crime against God, but if our "God" is the demiurge, then we should "Sin".

well I will try to play anno 1800 later.
halo is such a pretty game

>>82899822
>universal human response
You confirm your belief through validating beliefs of the masses, yet look at the state of the world.

Again, as I said, "sin" is destructive and should be avoided, yet it is illusory, and all are innocent.

multiplayer, pvp, city builder
getting down to it

He was Jewish. Don't know if that matters.

Damn straight, OP.

>>82900033
>Jewish
Yes, and? He also made a lot of jews seethe when confronted with the truth.

rome anno looks good

nobody playing tropico 6 multiplayer

>>82900055
The early Christians were Jews. They wrote the new testament. Jews loved Jesus.

>>82900118
Yes, I know that. And Jesus was the prophesied messiah and they didn't want to believe it. Hence, why they were seething and have a meltdown over it.

Vile fucking jew. That nigga was NOT magical, I don't care WHAT your book club tells you

>>82900125
It's another sect of Judaism, it competes with it no shit other Jews didn't want to have it but some did.

>>82899626
>mocking
Can't Jesus enjoy a little anal now and then? Poor guy never even got pussy while he was here.

I'm just imagining if he could cut loose and have some fun. No mocking.

>The Life of Brian
What are you like 52? John Cleese turns 85 this year.

>a bad taste in my mouth
What about a good taste? (pic related)

>>82900348
I really, really don't like AI. Or (You) at all

>>82899822
>universal human response

>these things are invariably bad
>b-b-but we need Yahweh the great to write them down so we know they're bad, oh great Lord in the sky

If we weren't an altruistic species that forms tribes to support each other, then murder would be meaningless. If a crocodile meets her adult child later in life she will devour him without hesitation.

Don't forget all the stone age and hunter gatherer human tribes out there that have no laws, no rules, no regulations. Murder, rape, and cannibalism doesn't bother some of them one bit. They're too concerned about surviving the year to start mucking about with abstract "laws". All that stuff comes after the neolithic (permanent settlement) era of human development.

Is drinking Dr Pepper a sin?

>>82900348
I'm physically early Gen Z. But my soul is gen X in many ways. Monty Python is proto-internet humor, because it was so silly. It's still funny.

>>82899359
Why are you portraying it as if he was an enemy of Rome and that they "got him"? He was neutral to Rome, and the people that wanted him crucified was the Pharisees.

>>82900366
>I really, really don't like AI
I'm the opposite, I find this very amusing.

>>82900863
He was a slave of Rome, as was all of Jerusalem. Pontius Pilate (at least according to the second hand accounts, Rome has no record) ordered vigiles to apprehend that particular rabbi and sentence him to death.

I'm sure the Pharisees played some role in that, but who the fuck knows what they look like? How is that going to read in an image? Just some ancient retards in rags. It would be ambiguous. People know what Roman armor looks like. The image works.

>>82899626
Same. I was raised that way but I'm not really a follower or have true faith. I do align more with the worldview of it though.

>>82899426
>>82899462
>>82900348
>>82900882

What I don't get actually is the anti gay stuff. This dude may be mocking him and porn bad yada yada but does he deserve to burn in hell for eternity if he's shit posting or jerking off to gay porn mocking Christ? I almost think of hell as a metaphorical myself. Not literally burning in flames forever cause I really don't even wanna wish that on my worst enemy because I don't want it to happen to me.

>>82900924
No, of course he doesn't. I'm the second Gnostic nigga in this thread. I do not believe "blasphemy" really exists. I just feel it's in poor taste, it's not like I'm seething cause he's posting this AI generated slop. I don't care. Nor do I think he's going to be punished for it. All I'm saying is, Jesus was actually a really cool dude, Christian or not.

White people really erased all their culture and traditions to worship a Jew. Fucking sad.

>>82900940
Fair enough. I really haven't read anything about the stuff as said it's just how I was raised so some stuff stuck other stuff didn't. Things like "absolute evil" seemed pretty vague but I definitely believe in absolute good or evil.

I'm not even religious or a practicing christian but the way the whole thing makes jewish rats seethe is very amusing. It's comedy gold, imagine the fat fucking dysgenic balding gremlin rushing to prompt his local patchwork model(multiple times to get a "good" one) to produce some pictures of Jesus sucking cock and actually being excited to post it.

>>82900954
I'm not exactly religious, I must admit. But Gnostic religion, not just christian, makes the most sense to me. Manichaeism is a beautiful gnostic sect that tried unite Buddhism, Christianity and Zoroastrianism under a Gnostic umbrella. Ironically, Manichaeism's tendency to adopt the colors of whatever local religions it encountered were probably what helped doom it. Rather than confidently asserting itself as something different, it kinda turned itself into a super heresy for every religion (Christian, Zoroastrian, Hindu, and Buddhist). Adopting so much of local faiths would have also facilitated its followers gradually being re-absorbed back into the dominant religion

>>82900940
>All I'm saying is, Jesus was actually a really cool dude

>hypothetical rabbi that may have existed, exaggerated in story by his devoted followers who are clearly a little biased
You have zero way of knowing if any historical figure born before audio and video recording technology was "cool" or not.

You know as much about Jesus as you do about Paul Bunyan. Fuck, most historians think Apollonius of Tyana is the actual person Jesus is based on. Jesus just got tall-taled into this amalgam of prophets and ascetics because 90% of what we know about the guy was written down 30 years after he died.

Think of any thing that happened to you 30 years ago, call up someone who was there and ask them to describe what happened. Odds are that more than half of their story won't sync up with what your mind remembers. Memories are fallible, just about anything that comes out of a culture that's still scared of thunder is fallible. You're vouching for what is essentially a fictional character. Like, "Hey, Batman's a pretty nice guy. Don't tease him." Nah.

>>82900924
>is the magic Jew ghost going to throw people in the ghost volcano because of pictures?

I had my fingers crossed and was thinking really hard how much I believe in Jesus so he can't get me with his volcano torturing. It's the rules.

The REAL doomed people are the 6 billion people who never heard of him/don't care. They are so getting volcano-ed once they become ghosts.

>>82900960
>Jews are the ones to get mad
You sure about that?

>>82901077
Yes. I am adamant.

>>82900960
>imagine the fat fucking dysgenic balding gremlin rushing to prompt his local patchwork model
Oy gevalt! I've been uncovered! I must consult the Talmud before I plotz!

>>82901171
>if mark levin gained a few pounds

>>82900960
Generally speaking, the people who dislike Jesus the Nazarene are people who live lifestyles that are in opposition to Biblical teachings, so think anyone on the LGBBQ spectrum, Communist dipshits that don't understand anything about economics, libshit arthoes that roll around in debachery like a pig in shit and also Jews. These people will seethe relentlessly and serve as opposition to anyone who identifies as Christian, or even so much as mentions neutrality towards Jesus. Even during my Atheist phase in high school, I just couldn't bring myself to dislike Jesus and I honestly only became even more self-hating of the fact that I was a human until I became grown and more mature. During that phase in high school, I tried explaining to others that Jesus didn't actually preach against many of the things people outright hate the Bible for, but they wouldn't have any of it and simply say that because the Christians are in opposition to their lifestyles, they are deserving of pain and suffering and their opposition. People who are so vehemently against Christianity as a whole are mentally ill and the cause of their own suffering, yet they turn the blame outwardly towards Christians saying things like "They aren't the great people they think they are", but then act hypocritically. It's all fucking mental illness. Even when I became a Christian however, I ended up not so much associating with other Christians but rather isolating because I find both sides to be troublesome, but with the Christians being infinitely moreso tolerable.

>worship me or be cursed
nah

>>82901325
>Understand me, or be trapped
That's what he actually said.

>>82901330
>euphemisms
very christian like. The meaning is the same though
>It's either my way, or bad things will happen to you
very narcissistic

>>82901340
>>It's either my way, or bad things will happen to you
Yes.

>>82901343
which is precisely what makes jesus not so much of a good person. Too megalomaniac and egocentric.

>>82901330
he actually said he is the only way to salvation. When you don't believe in magic, you see a cult leader for what it is.

>>82901359
>Too megalomaniac and egocentric.
Getting crucified for bringing knowledge to humans how to escape the material world is egocentric. If Jesus was telling the truth, and the things that happened back then as told in the bible, really did happen. He's not selfish at all, it's just the way the world is, and he offers you an escape. And I re-iterate, I'm not a traditional christian. Gnostic Christianity is closer to a whole other religion, than a simple heresy to Catholics.

>>82901313
>People are in opposition to their lifestyles, they are deserving of pain and suffering
That's actually the christian ethos, though. You believe that pain and suffering awaits those who don't partake in the christian lifestyle.
A religious person accusing others of what they are to blame, is very on brand. Hypocrisy is a core element of religion.

>>82901375
>bringing knowledge to humans how to escape the material world
And this "knowledge" conveniently asks you to worship the one giving it out, with threats of damnation if you don't.
It is indeed egocentric and megalomaniac. Unless you do believe in magic.

>>82901375
>If Jesus was telling the truth
That's one big if.
If he wasn't telling the truth, he would be just another egocentric cult leader. To believe is to choose.

>>82901395
I do not believe in hell. I believe this place here, the material world we know, is as bad as it gets. And until you reach "true Gnosis" you're going to be re-incarnated in this world over and over again.

>>82901406
>My personal interpretation of biblical verses
Irrelevant to the discussion.
As it is written, jesus spoke about eternal damnation for those who didn't follow him and worshipped him as god incarnate.
Which makes him egocentric and megalomaniac for anyone who doesn't believe he had magic powers.

>>82901440
>>My personal interpretation of biblical verses
And interestingly, some of the EARLIEST sects of Christianity too, that were heavily prosecuted. Cause even back then, there were faggots like you asking this very question; how can God be such a bloodthirty asshole in the old testament, and so gently in the new. The logical conclusion, The catholics have it wrong.

>>82901461
>and so gently in the new
but he's not, though. The old testament god would punish people in their lifetime, finitely. The new testament god, however, offers eternal punishment for finite crimes. It's much worse, and is corroborated by Jesus' own words as per the gospels.

>>82901502
You're narrowing it down to a few accepted verses from mainstream Christianity. Read the Gnostic Gospels.

>>82901440
Exactly he wanted to kill people who to prevent kids from following him.

>>82901532
>You're narrowing it down to the foundation of christian faith, the synoptic gospels
Your esoteric beliefs are irrelevant.
From what we know about christ, he's not as good as he's megalomaniac and egocentric.

>>82899219 (OP)
*gayest

my thread still up
I will try to create ubisoft account again

>>82901588
>Your esoteric beliefs are irrelevant.
Nta but lets say it's all just a cope. What now? If I keep functioning in a manner that I can fundamentally understand everything about reality how can I be positive about anything? It's only ever given me pain is trying to KNOW everything. I think it's about surrendering yourself to something greater. I really am not sure how to articulate this feeling. I don't look into the stuff but I have been thinking about stuff more and more through a Christian or Catholic lens over the years because I've been too harsh on myself and others and really I've been projecting all this negativity outwards.

I'm >>82900924 and that's why I am asking these questions because you can be gay and not a monster. I've thought about it constantly in my life.

>Do x don't get Y outcome
>That isn't fair I was being reasonable or compassionate or compromising because that's what I value and follow
>I DESERVE X outcome because I was being nice

I've thought this was a good operating principle but only now do I kinda see I really and not being fair to myself so in turn I'm not fair to others. Unironically seems like a come to Jesus moment.

>>82901817
Does this sound like babies first existential crisis stuff? Even if it is then damn it took me over 20 fucking years to realize it so eh whatever.

>>82901313
>wall of words about high school
>everyone who doesn't love my master is bad and dangerous

Gee, I wonder why anyone would oppose that mindset or be offended by it.

Well, they must be crazy insane people who don't love your imaginary sky wizard. Those assholes. Shame on them for not agreeing with your personal delusions someone fed to you when you were five years old that you refuse to question.

>>82902016
Nta but do you impose rules on yourself regularly? Do you have a principle for a mode of behavior? That is the point I personally think. It's a somewhat decent operating principle for behaving. Do you follow the law because you are afraid of punishment? If yes good but you aren't "bad" for smoking weed in areas where it's illegal.

>>82900896
No he wasn't and no they weren't. They were simply subjects.

>>82901565
he didn't want to kill anyone. He did, however, preach about being the gatekeeper of salvation. If anyone did that, you would consider them egotistical.

>>82902068
I don't believe that people who don't follow my own self imposed rules will be eternally doomed. That's the difference

>>82902166
>I don't believe that people who don't follow my own self imposed rules will be eternally doomed.
So do I and I don't want that for stupid things like being gay even though I still wonder if it is true but I want to take the good out of Christianity and leave the more seemingly less important parts alone but in the back of my head as consideration.

>cold blooded murder
>Execute him publicly he should be tortured

Is this a correct mode of behavior? While I don't mind something like that happening and I would enjoy it am I right for thinking this way? That is the important question. I don't thing anyone could give the "correct" answer on this we can only maybe get closer to it the best we can.

>>82902068
>do you impose rules on yourself regularly
Like arbitrary rules? Made up rules? No.

>Do you have a principle for a mode of behavior?
No. I mean out in public I don't want to be an asshole out of principle. Since I hate assholes and hypocrites, so I don't want to be both at the same time.

>It's a somewhat decent operating principle for behaving
Eh, maybe for 2000 years ago it wasn't so bad. Thinking you're going to spend eternity having fun in a sky amusement-park if you just do a certain thing is comforting, I guess. Absolutely stupid if you spend 10 seconds thinking about it though.

>Do you follow the law because you are afraid of punishment?
Yes. That's the point of laws.

>you aren't "bad" for smoking weed in areas where it's illegal
Therein lies the absurdity of it.
"Cross this line and the plant in your pocket becomes a crime and a fancy man who lives in a fancy house says I have the authority to lock you in a cage if I catch you with the plant over the line."

I think if the universe has a creator, he would understand how absurd arbitrary laws are and wouldn't bother with them. If he does exist though, and he's perfect, then he logically must have made the universe perfectly. Therefor anything that ever happens would be the divine will of the perfect being.

Doesn't really feel like the universe works that way. It's chaotic, stupid, pointless, and filled with death and extinction. Stars collide with one another and wipe out solar systems. Black holes devour half a galaxy. Life evolves for 200 million years just to wind up with fucking Panda bears that can't survive unless someone feeds them bamboo 12 hours a day.

>>82899219 (OP)
Jesus christ is very powerful. Just the mere mention of his name makes people who claim to not believe writhe and seethe for hours on end. Not Buddha, Muhammad, Shiva, or any other false demonic religion creates such a reaction.

Glory to our Lord Jesus Christ.

>>82901817
>it's all just a cope. What now?
Maybe now, without the veneer of fundamentalist worshipping, you can understand why someone would criticize some of Jesus' alleged quotes. More importantly, you can live your life following whatever moral guide you want, without necessarily believing that people who disagree with you are cursed, condemned individuals.

>>82902211
Mohammed does, actually.

>>82902197
You can just do things though. You have the freedom to choose to be good even if you don't obtain the good outcome and that's ok. I've only really come to this realization or frame of mind very recently but if it's a pointless cope then why not do it anyway? Why "choose" to be blackpilled. All I've ever been is blackpilled when i should have been more grateful for my situation. This isn't to excuse the cruelty of reality but making anything better I think really just starts with yourself. I hope we can all go play in the sky. My ideal of heaven would just be being a terminally online NEET right now observing reality as it unfolds with all the good and bad. If it's just over and I sleep forever that's ok too because all the pain will be gone but that doesn't sound like fun.

>>82902211
>world's largest religion
>it's hated
The people who aren't in hate christ because he's Jewish, and threaten you with eternal damnation if you don't follow him.

>>82902227
>More importantly, you can live your life following whatever moral guide you want, without necessarily believing that people who disagree with you are cursed, condemned individuals.
I don't want all of them to be I am a compromising person. I just believe good and evil can be objective when taken to their obsolete extremes even if you don't "believe" in the religious stuff.

>Those who keep choosing to just kill people for fun should suffer
How? Idk really but eternal hellfire doesn't seem like the solution maybe more salvation or the ability to gain it. This doesn't rule out punishment but I'm not the judge and I shouldn't be because I would be overly cruel to those I hate but haven't committed extreme crimes.

>>82902234
>if it's a pointless cope then why not do it anyway?
Because some of these religious laws you are cherishing, are outright bad for the individual. Most notably giving 10% of your income to church, but also excluding the non believers from your life, practicing celibacy and being romantically deprived if you don't fit in the mold of christian marriage, excluding people who don't share your faith from your life, and most importantly, preaching about the spiritual condemnation of those who disagree.
These laws don't favor everyone equally. Some are more privileged by god's decree than others. If following this philosophy makes your life better, congratulations. You shouldn't discredit people whose lives are worsened by it, though.

>>82902261
>I don't want all of them to be
Irrelevant. You are vouching for a faith system based on a book that says they are condemned, and people have rejected that message. You can at least try to understand why.

>>82902277
I'm not arguing for it's absolutist nature because imposing the punishments for some things seems unreasonable to me. I take the good and leave the bad. Everything you just typed I don't want because it is unreasonable. I'm talking about it as a mode of behavior or a system.

>Do something bad expect to be punished.
>Believe you should be punished when you know you did wrong and so should others.
>The punishment needs to fit the crime but it's very vague and up to interpretation.
>Need threat to avoid bad behavior like law or "God"

>>82899219 (OP)
He didn't rebuild the old temple, he's not the son of g-d.

>>82902303
The bible is absolutist in nature and so is jesus. There's no middle ground or nuance in the gospels. For jesus, salvation is a narrow path, you're either in or out, according to him there's no serving two masters at once.
>Unreasonable
Religion is fundamentally unreasonable. And if you think some parts of it are unreasonable, you're not that far off from understating why someone would reject the message. In a way you have rejected it too.
Your personal version of christianity is on itself, a twist of the original source material. Disbelief is merely taking that "twist" to its next logical conclusion.

>>82902303
>I take the good and leave the bad
I did that and ended up realizing jesus being a god incarnated in human form is part of the "bad", unreasonable elements of the bible.
That's why I disagree he was the best person to ever exist. According to the source material, the 4 gospels, jesus is also a bad egomaniac with delusions of grandeur and most likely some form of mental illness

>>82902338
If God made us "in his image" why would he be unreasonable? It's always circles back to fundamentals and extremes that are hard to identify.

ACCEPT that evil exits and should be punished and given the appropriate punishment but don't be blackpilled.

>>82899219 (OP)
Religion is just shared psychosis, If I believed that someone was watching me from the clouds, I would be put in the hospital. Become your own god and don't let anyone lead you and follow your heart. No gods, no masters.

>>82899219 (OP)
>good chance he didn't even exist and is 100% radically different to our image of him if he did
>jewish
Yeah no, I'll reserve my simping towards anything else other than this guy

>>82902450
Your judge, jury, and executional cannot be you even always towards yourself. Just surrender yourself to him and embrace acceptance sometimes. I really can't be the God of my own world because I don't have enough power or control or understanding because I am a retarded monkey. I NEED someone else to impose the rules on me or just tell me the truth or else I remain lost.

>>82902396
>If God made us "in his image" why would he be unreasonable
Because Yahweh is a man made character that is flawed like humans and didn't create anything.
The real creator of the universe is utterly indifferent to the things that you call "objective evil" and "blackpill". Its language is universal constants, not ancient hebrew

>>82902513
>I NEED someone else to impose the rules
> Go for hebrew desert nomads
yikes

>>82902813
If there are no universal constants then you will remain lost. This also isn't true because we have science. If I can't or shouldn't believe in anything then why do anything at all? Why even ask these questions? I use those terms because my brain works better with simple analogies or memes like that. The endpoint always results in suicide if you cannot believe in something bigger than yourself.

the most powerful man in history.

I like that Jesus loved whores, I think he was a cute fuckboy with an entourage and was really nice. Imagine some Chad rolling into your sand town with his disciples and you catch his eye. He's like hey girl wanna get your feet washed with me and eat some flatbread. Best sex you'll ever have

>>82903233
>If there are no universal constants
But there are. Gravity. Lightspeed. Fundamental particles. They just don't say anything about human feelings, because our feelings didn't concern the real creator that much, not enough to give us a manual or make its will known to us in anyway, if it even has a will.
>You will remain lost
You are lost. Religion is only an illusion, a coping mechanism. As long as you don't use it to wish bad things happen to those who disagree with you, I couldn't care less.

>>82903233
>If I can't or shouldn't believe in anything
That's where you're wrong. You can believe in anything you want. Whether you should is up for debate.
Your beliefs, however, are not beyond criticism. Your favourite ancient prophet-turned-god is not immune to criticism.

>>82903233
>The endpoint always results in suicide if you cannot believe in something bigger than yourself
Untrue. Just because you're suicidal and religion scares you out of it, doesn't mean it's a rule.
You can believe a multitude of things beyond just hebrew folklore

Inward missing

>>82903279
>You are lost. Religion is only an illusion, a coping mechanism. As long as you don't use it to wish bad things happen to those who disagree with you, I couldn't care less.
I agree because I am not very religious I was raised in that type of house hold and through schooling it just wasn't very serious or oppressive. I just mean thinking about things in the frame of mind and throwing out the bad aspects is better. It gives hope and clarity I really want to believe that.

>Your beliefs, however, are not beyond criticism. Your favourite ancient prophet-turned-god is not immune to criticism.
Yeah you're right. Others however are much more harsh. Gays get thrown off buildings. You get executed for drawing a picture of Muhammed. You must be allowed to criticize freely.

>>82903297
Where do the principles or values come from then? If it is just a cope I still think it's better to operate under some of the principles that it portrays.

>It's all just useless bs lets use moral relativism
I can't get down with that anymore honestly because it's been too blackpilling of a mind frame.

>>82903318
>It gives hope and clarity
Only because you're "throwing out the bad aspects" which are very numerous. In fact you doing that directly contradicts the gospels and is a heresy in itself.

>>82903329
>Where do the principles or values come from then?
the bible was not the first book of moralism and law written by humans. It came from the same place where every other literary work came from.
>If it is just a cope I still think it's better to operate under some of the principles that it portrays.
Only if you rejected the absolute horrible principles it also portrays.
The real blackpill is opening the bible and finding anything worth saving in that horrible book

>>82903345
>>82903368
If I did take the good aspects and threw out the bad then would it make sense to not burn in hell for eternity? What if you were God? The "punishment' aspect of some of the stuff seems like bs to me so that's why I call it bad. Compromise, reason, and understanding is what I would value out of some of the lessons. I mean this as a general operating principle for life. i don't want to throw it all out because of the "bad."

>>82903462
>would it make sense to not burn in hell for eternity?
That's what the source text says. I don't give two fucks about your personal interpretation and your pathetic attempt to salvage parts of that horrible book.

>>82903493
Aight fine. I'm not telling you to follow it though and wouldn't force you. I'm just pointing out it has good aspects. Chill out man.