Thread 82902069

Give up. What does that even mean?

>>82902069 (OP)
I don't know. Stop trying.
Do you force yourself through most of life?
If I didn't force myself to do things, I would only eat, sleep, and shower.
I hardly ever want to do anything, its depressing.

>>82902069 (OP)
You are either blackpilled and you kys or hurt others or you accept and move on. Maybe idk but that kinda makes sense to me as an analogy. Giving up doesn't always = bad.

>>82902096
Accept what? How do I accept that I'm a loser?

>>82902478
>How do I accept that I'm a loser?
What are your faults? Can you recognize them? What do you hate about yourself? Can you keep living with this knowledge if you knew? Can you change if you recognize a fault even if it's not objectively true or doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things? I am a loser NEET that just wants to mooch off the system and be left alone. I hate myself and being around people. The thing is though I have come to realize that I am grateful for my situation because I can be a lazy NEET. The future will always remain uncertain and scary but I may or may not be ok because I was lucky and it's up to me whether I decide to get a job and make money to be able to take care of myself. It is not the worlds responsibility because of my entitlement or perceived entitlement. I still remain resentful a lot but please anon don't be blackpilled as much or resentful as much as you possibly can. I have been in a better mood by changing this frame of reference for myself and now I recognize that I can just do things to make myself better even though it's really fucking hard and I choose not to a lot because of the resentment or entitlement feeling.

>>82902478
Accepting something is just getting to a point where you don't feel horrible when you think about it. However you do that is subjective and unique to each person.
I have a hard time with it as well but the thing I always tell myself is that theres no universal anything. No universal concept of what is considered good, bad, cool, lame, stupid, smart, whatever. Its all about perspective and perspective is different amongst everyone.

>>82902590
Most insightful comment I've read on this board in a long while.

>>82902975
This comforts me. It makes me feel like I'm doing something right, in the eyes of someone at least.

>>82903065
I do think there is objective good and bad, but you shouldn't hurt yourself over the things you can't change. You gave me a lot to think about.

>>82903106
My perspective is that there is a general objective good and bad in human society, and then there is another personal one that you specifically have/ hold yourself to. That one can change over time.
Change the things you can, accept the things you can't, and have the wisdom to tell the difference, which is the hardest part I find.

I had a soda addiction that I didn't accept or give up trying to stop, as many times as I tried, but this time it did because I replaced it with unsweetened ice-tea.

>>82902069 (OP)
your innate biological instincts for survival fail

>>82902069 (OP)
When you accept that something is not happening and you stop trying. You accept that there are things about you or your environment that you cannot change, no matter how much you try. And that you put in a lot of effort for something that comes naturally to others.
I'm in the situation in which I've never even tried. I always had a good idea about my capabilities at any given task, so I've rarely tried to climb mountains I knew I couldn't. Acceptance of my limitations comes easy to me, so I choose my battles accordingly.

>>82903550
So you're good for nothing?

>>82903612
No, I turned up fine overall, mainly because I have a high IQ. But with things like socializing and women, it was obvious to me since my early teenage years that I'm kinda handicapped. Not handicapped enough to have zero friends but handicapped enough to not know how to flirt and be very averse to risk (like approaching women). So that made it far easier to find copes and eventually stop giving a damn. And yea, I never tried. Had a few opportunities I didn't take because I wasn't attracted to those women. But being honest with myself, even if I had been attracted to them, I'd have probably not tried anyway.