Thread 82978297

why are women like this? can any femanon answer? why cant you just be direct?

>>82978297 (OP)
God damn, if all men did this women would have their privilege checked to the fucking dirt. Simps are unironically ruining it for themselves and all other men on earth.

>>82978297 (OP)
>NO MEANS NO
>But also no means try again + more effort and why do men just give up after we say no
>But also you go to jail if I say no and you guess wrong that I wanted you to keep trying :)
Let's see a foid defend this

>>82978322
You still lose 2 months

>>82978297 (OP)
>whore fucks some dude
>tells him she doesn't want to commit and is presumably done being fucked
>dude, elated at the lack of strings, appreciates this and cuts all contact

She may have wondered why he hadnt progressed it and instead of asking him out which she cant do she tried to motivate him to do it which backfired. Im guessing thats what happened. They want you to win them, they dont want to hand themselves over, that ruins it

>>82978297 (OP)
guys literally dont want nice girls
you dont know what you want moids
nice girls always finish last

>>82978370
>tried to motivate him
With "I'm not ready for a relationship"?
kek foids are so fucking dumb holy shit
we definitely should not let you vote

>>82978370
"2 months of talking" = I was letting him pump me on random weeknights and he never took me out once
I tried to fearmonger him into dating me but he has 12 other girls on rotation and doesn't care
Classic case of a Becky punching out of her class. I'm not even a man just old enough to understand reality

>>82978372
The girl I am currently devastated over is nice.
I don't know why she rejected me.

>>82978391
If that's the case then there was nothing she could do.

I've never been in that position but I can tell I would be evasive like that if I were to. For me it's because of low self esteem and I'd think they didn't really want me if they left.
It's the same as when someone brings up cuckoldry in a relationship to test their partner's feelings. I

>>82978348
There will be no replies to this devastating trvthke except this one. I bear silent witness to the holocaust of trhuthiness this megagigaton thermonanohypernuclear tsar ultrabomba unleashed. Truly, they hated him because he spoke the truth.

every man on the face of the earth has wasted months or years chasing after a girl and got absolutely nothing out of it. So when a girl says "chase me" it's not flirty, it's a rejection.

>>82978297 (OP)
He did the right thing
I wasted 3 years pining over this girl who was breadcrumbing me while she was actively fucking other dudes
I had settled for being friends because I still liked her, but that meant she didn't see me as a man
Now I know that, and my solution was blocking her so she can't randomly message me about her new bf of the month and disrupt my inner peace
I should have done the same thing the first time she rejected me

>>82978439
>to test their partner's feelings. I
A-anon? Are you okay? Do I need to call the paramedics?? Did Candlejack get y

>>82978370
>Motivate
You moron, you mean "manipulate"
Men don't take kindly to petty manipulation and games
Literally just be straightforward and you will be respected for it

>>82978484
Alphas hate when we chase. She did all she good while retaining her dignity. Even with her eyes blocked out it's clear she is cute. She just tried for a guy that didn't think she was good enough.
WE ARE NOT THE CHASERS, we are the choosers, get that through your fucking head

>>82978432
You should cut her off
The girl that I fell for was also nice but I wasted 3 years on her

>>82978499
Then why didn't you CHOOSE him you fucktard
You're just making good intentioned men jump through a bunch of hoops like circus animals and laugh when they get hurt
Bitch, you ain't that special

>>82978391
>"2 months of talking" = I was letting him pump me on random weeknights and he never took me out once
>I tried to fearmonger him into dating me but he has 12 other girls on rotation and doesn't care

Came to the thread pretty much to say this. But someone else already said it so I'll just second them.

>>82978297 (OP)
>why are women like this?
they love the attention

they love being chased, but theyll never let you catch them

women these days see most men as pets

they want them around to make them feel happy, but theyll never engage any further then that

UNLESS you seek them out and rape them - THATS what most women want and thats a sad thing to say

>>82978348
They never reply to points that directly call out retarded female logic. They KNOW they're fucking stupid, but they will never ever ever ever admit it because a woman's ego is unbelievably fragile.

Women do not follow logic and reason, they follow emotion. Women are closer to fucking animals than men are.

>>82978500
No need. She vanished off the face of the Earth.

>>82978372
Literally all I want is a woman that is nice, doesn't lie, takes care of herself, and loves me.

It's so hard to even get basic compassion from women

>>82978437
These guys future fake a lot to keep women that otherwise have standards on the line. I bet he "talked" about taking her out sometimes but once she was over there she was naked and sucking his dick within 10 minutes. Been there done that
What's interesting is that he immediately blocked her. When I told my fuckbois I was settling down and couldn't hook up anymore they all tried to act like they were going to take me out to a candlelight dinner the next day and I missed my chance. Lol that just shows the op woman's guy is a huuuge fuckboy he isn't even putting on the pretense. I'd be very butthurt

>>82978439
Stop playing those stupid fucking games.

Men can literally have their life ruined if some bitch decides to lie and say anything happened. Of course men take no as a no now, there really is no winning with you retards

>>82978466
I don't understand how women don't understand, they make us hate them with their behavior. It's beyond frustrating having to pretend that you're equals with an overgrown toddler with tits

Why are incels such whiny effeminate betas?

>woman
I don't want a relationship
>man
Ok, I do so I'll go find someone who also wants a relationship
>woman
waa waa I do really want a relationship, I wanted to test you and see how much you would pursue me
>man
Fuck off.

>>82978768
And this applies to you how?

>>82978297 (OP)
the #1 mistake guys make is making the girl admit to something she wants. girls brains are not build for it. the suggestion needs to come from you and the suggestion needs to be more like pressure or else nothing will ever happen.
For example dont ask a girl ''want to have sex'' ask her ''want to go to my place for some drinks'' it means the same but with the second option the girl can lie to her own inner voice and brain to avoid accountability.

>>82978353
Nah, normies are not that stupid anymore many of them have 3-4 chicks at the same time they are trying to date and if you don't you are stupid

>>82978808
Cool. Did you just make this all up?

>>82978828
you can literally see it in the op picture little tourist

>>82978808
>just read her mind and socially engineer your way into her pussy
no

>>82978789
I'm not a virgin incel. I'll guess that's where you're going with this. What's it matter when you'll NEVER get pussy? Fuck off.

>>82978372
nice girls don't say "no" when they mean "yes."

>>82978751
I unironically think at this point, if you don't hate women, you've never actually been with one.

Fucking loser

>>82978297 (OP)
>>82978348
>>82978461
>>82978697
You don't get it. I often see people here saying "hah! see! this proves they are dishonest!", and you are right, but I don't think you quite grasp how complete and final this dishonesty is or you would not be vainly grasping at straws for these "gotcha!" moments.

You are a non-entity to them. As in they don't sit and think "anon is a non-entity to me", it is automatic. They literally do not think of you as a human with consciousness and intelligence. They do not think much in general. They may preach about "tolerance" and "inclusion", but to them it is an abstraction they use to virtue signal and rarely apply it to you, constantly looking for excuses to waive it in your case.

When Stacy says "I hate that guy" or they catch you with slightly autistic body language, talking about something other than n*rmy pop culture or doing anything even slightly nonconformist, they are not thinking about whether it is right to treat someone like this, whether Stacy might be lying since she frequently gossips and talk shit about people. They identify you as a nerd and all their lifelong training kicks in.

>>82978881
The girl I've been wanting to fuck at work is obviously on the spectrum and she identified that I'm autistic too but yeah she literally only talks to/fucks with insane men.

I want her so bad I'm willing to turn into an abusechad just so she likes me back.

>>82978843
>you can literally see it in the op picture little tourist
Can you point it out because I didn't see it
>>82978854
That was a lot of words to avoid my question
>>82978880
>I unironically think
Good for you dipshit

>>82978902
Why are you trying to ragebait on 4chan?

>>82978902
No it's not good, I wish I was a brainlet like you, I imagine life is fun

>>82978901
Never change yourself for a woman anon

>>82978901
Autistic girls HATE and i mean HATE autistic man the most. i wish you luck anon, dont wait too long or chadlite will add her to the roster

I feel bad for men in the west. Because they are literally the best men in the world and they have to deal with such stupid pathetic women brainwashed by feminism and slut culture
t. femanon

>>82978370
>They want you to win them
winning in this context implies you get a prize, what is it?

>>82978921
I imagine it's not fun. It's probably frustrating.

>>82978940
Western man here. Will you be my gf and save me from these evil harpies?

>>82978901
even though autistic girls have more in common with autistic boys they still want chad

>>82978969
It would have been my honour to be your gf. Sadly my family would kill me if I marry a man out of our shitty culture. I truly hope one day you'll find a woman that deserves you anon

>>82978902
Why would I give you a serious answer? You're just an ickle twoll. Sorry your life sucks, bro. It do be like that for some people.

>>82979013
What culture is that? Muslim? I can grow a beard and LARP as one while in front of your family. Then we can go home and eat bacon together. Alternatively, I could whisk you away to a far away land and you would never have to talk to your family again.

>>82978940
Wait until you discover they're the same everywhere with a few exceptions

>>82978432
maybe go for ur looksmatch instead of stacy? lmfao what did u expect
>>82978381
i have been nothing but nice to men i didnt get anything back, its not worth it men only want bitches, ive literally been told to play harder to get

>>82978297 (OP)
>why
They were created by Satan

>>82978372
Every accusation is a projection with foids

>>82979157
No no, they were created by God and corrupted by Satan

>>82978348
I'm a guy who got his gf after she said "No." The secret is: "No" doesn't matter if she already said she likes you, and she's only hesitating because she thinks she's not ready. People are never ready, it's up to men to chase until a woman says "Yes" (as long as she's shwoing constant interest). Afterwards, men shouldn't chase anymore, it's up to you to shit-test women and remind them they want you.

>>82978940
>t. femanon
Kill yourself bitch

>>82979171
Corrupted so easily, because sin is what they want. Use whatever story you like, but women are evil.

>>82978297 (OP)
Femanon here
Pretty sure that bitch is just retarded

>>82979196
Men are supposed to keep that evil in check though
Feminism has been a blight on humanity

>>82979090
Nta but dating is frowned upon altogether in some places. They are going to be mad suspicious when a white male asks for their daughter's hand in marriage

>>82978929
>die pathetically alone and sad anon
No.

>>82979204
Women can never accept accountability.

>>82979249
Change for yourself first and foremost
Don't just mold yourself into something you're not because some idiot woman prefers it
That's a recipe for disaster

>>82978297 (OP)
Why would anyone waste their time on a girl that pretends not to want them to "make him try harder"? Literally inviting stress and turmoil for her ego, dumb ho cant just say what she wants she tries to passively manipulate

>>82978297 (OP)
>why are women like this?

Women are genetically programmed to get all the men in her tribe to like her and fawn over her. They collect male friends and simps like Pokemon. The more she has the more security it grants her. Losing a loyal male friend makes her breath think she is in danger. A woman's dream scenario is to be loved and desired by every male in her society and have two or more ultra high status men fighting for her love (this is the plot of EVERY romance novel). This is all genetic programming because in the wild women can't fight and are in constant danger. They need men to protect them from predators and aggressive men, so they attempt to build flirty relationships with every guy who thinks he has a chance and never directly insult or reject a man in a way that could harm her.

>>82978297 (OP)
Speaking from experience, this behaviour in men is the result of our well intentioned efforts in the past being punished, in cruel and malicious ways.
I learned the hard way that bitches simply aint worth it. I used to be a romantic, and when girls were on the fence I'd do everything and anything to win them over, only for them to toy with and then rip my heart out.

I no longer indulge women in any of their bullshit. I'm 32 years old. The second I sniff that they're playing some game I just completely check out. You're a grown adult, not a girl on the playground. You're just not worth as much effort as you think you are. And my own peace is the most integral thing I have.

>>82979273
Listen to this man. Changing for some hole would be one of the biggest mistakes you will ever ever make.

The most angry a woman ever got at me, was that when I pursued her and she eventually rejected me. A few months afterwards when I had lost all attraction to her she started flaunting being with this guy in front of me to try to make me jealous for some bizarre reason. When I showed no reaction as I genuinely didn't care she was completely shocked.

Then she started pursuing me lmao. blowing up my phone every day

women are so fucked

>>82979423
>>82979273
Don't listen to these people. You want a gf, right? What's the worst that could happen? Pic unrelated.

>>82979423
Yup, because what happens after you've completely changed yourself and yet she still leaves you? You're gonna be left as a hollow shell of your former self.

>>82979445
kek this is a great example

>>82978391
>>82978358
>>82978574
And here I was thinking "talking to" literally meant shit like chatting on Tinder or text.

>>82978348
I actually tried to explain - not defend - this but gave up because it's too complicated. You are right. Women say No even when it means Yes, and have co-opted the justice system into protecting them when their little scheme backfires (an ugly guy takes their no for a yes and acts accordingly). Meanwhile most decent rational men either take their no at face value OR say "fuck this bullshit", which is why birth rates are plummeting. And then you have the 5% of sexual demigods (Chad) who appeal to 95% of women and can always assume a "no" means "yes" because it does - except for that 5% which is why even a Chad gets hit with rape charges once in a blue moon.

>>82979442
>A few months afterwards when I had lost all attraction to her she started flaunting being with this guy in front of me to try to make me jealous for some bizarre reason
I literally blocked a girl for doing this to me yesterday

>>82979273
I don't care about myself. If I did what I wanted I would have killed myself a long time ago.
>>82979445
Is that you? Sad, truly. Crazy how me, majorly depressed man, has more self respect than you.

>>82979273
>Don't just mold yourself into something you're not because some idiot woman prefers it

On the other hand, the love of a woman got me to go to therapy and fix a personality disorder that was ruining my life. Sometimes their complaints are legitimate. I have a better relationship with everyone now, I can keep a job, and a woman that loved me enough to demand I get help.

>>82978697
emotions are real and logic is just a manmade something something.

Emotions are REAL and that's why when my emotions tell me to cheat on my husband of 12 years with some sleaze I met at a gas station I hopped my fat ass up on his dick and bounced on him until he nutted in me.
My husband is such an asshole for not understanding. I did it because he doesn't make me FEEL like I used to. It's all about how I FEEL.
Oh well though, fuck that pussy, I'll just take his house and kids and leave him with nothing LOL

>>82979482
Yeah, I'm idubbbz you fucking retard. Please subscribe to my wife's onlyfans and jerk off to her. We need the money.

>>82979482
>I don't care about myself.
Then why would you expect a woman to care about you if you can't even care about yourself? No one is coming to save you.

Not a woman but from what I can tell, mainly from reading romance mind you, is that women want to feel desirable, sometimes to unreal or unhealthy degrees if the one who feels that level of extreme desire is themselves apex.

Women derive a ton of real world power from being desirable, and it's a MASSIVE ego boost to be desired.
Which even as a man you can probably understand even if you personally haven't experienced being desired.

That said, some women lack self awarness or a understanding of proportionality, and instead go off feels and vibes. So they don't think about the situation. They just know they feel bad that they weren't validated as desirable as they expected, and externalize that as the dude doing something wrong because she feels wronged.
Such women are called morons and are to be avoided.
It's much better to deal with a woman who isn't a moron and actually has some self awareness.
Thankfully there are plenty of women who aren't morons.

>>82979522
>you dont know my favorite eceleb?!?!?!??
No, I do not.
>>82979536
I don't expect that and I don't want to he saved. Are you seeing words that are not in any of posts? Here's my first post >>82979249 maybe if you start from there you'll figure it out.

>>82978471
This.
I simped for a girl in HS and after a year I got thirty seconds of sex at a party. Then she went on to have sex with another dude at that same party.

Just don't do it.

>>82979263
There is some truth to that. Can you blame a dog for barking, or a foid for being evil?
Either they oppress men and keep us all in matriarchal nigger tribe societies, or we grind these foids into the concrete and make a society.

>>82979273
>Don't just mold yourself into something you're not because some idiot woman prefers it
>That's a recipe for disaster
You don't know what you're saying.
Changing yourself for a woman works. Being performative works. And yes it's a recipe for disaster because anything women approve of is a recipe for disaster, but men do it anyway because they want a family and love. Yeah it's delusional but some men want that bad enough that they will burn their entire lives for it at the foid sacrificial altar.

>>82978936
Is this true? I'm attractive but only 5'10 and autistic.

>>82979864
>got thirty seconds of sex
Premature ejaculator
Hahahhahahahhahhahahaaaa