Thread 83031976

Pic related is not me, but it helps to illustrate my point.

I see people split between desiring a Chad/Stacey body (which is valid) in a partner but then also people say they're not shallow at all. But imagine you had a girlfriend who had a permanent skin condition like pic related. Imagine if she also had other defects like she's tall, has scars, loose skin, weird, small boobs on a lanky body.

Can anyone desire this WITHOUT desperation? I don't mean just "I take any gf I can get I am desperate" but someone well adjusted. How grossed out would you be?

I'm sure guys would love you as long as you don't act like the typical modern woman.

I dont even notice half the stuff my gf worries about. Men and women look at different things it seems

>>83031976 (OP)
>desire
keyword: desire
no one in actuality desires ugly bodies, only fetishists tbf and fetishists are gross people themselves
You might not bag Chad but you'll certainly bag Brad

What kinda skin condition is it?

>>83031976 (OP)
Do you seriously not see all the rich billionaires with frumpy weird wives? Yes, a man can be attracted to average or even ugly women. Men have different mate selection patterns than females. It's just that the kinds of men you're after (Chads to suck and fuck) like to pump and dump you or just go after hot girls to pump and dump, this gives you the impression that all men are like this simply because these are the only men you ever recognize or pay attention to.

>>83031976 (OP)
Oh no someone has a rash that makes their skin look a little red, how horrifying. Seriously bro?

>>83032038
Whenever a woman asks
>Will men...
>Do men...
It's always chad. Women are asking about chad. She wants to know
>Will chad want me? Will chad be attracted?
So the answer always has to relate to this specific kind of man she is looking for.

>>83031976 (OP)
If you're a virgin and we vibe yeah, i'd probably even start to be turned on by it specifically

>>83032006
>What kinda skin condition is it?
Keratosis Pilaris. It gives you bumpy chicken skin and even with rigorous treatment NEVER looks like healthy normal skin. I also have hyper pigmentation on top of it (dark spots) and I'm tall, lanky and have relatively small boobs. Due to gaining and losing weight my skin is also loose at parts of my body. I genuinely look below average.

All of this has destroyed my mental health, I am 26 years old and never go outside unless I am covered from head to toe. I have never been romantically/intimately touched. I know men can "fuck" literally anything - they sleep with dudes in wigs, animals and obese women but I have a hard time imagining that someone can be naked with a below average woman and be like WOW THIS IS SO GREAT AND HOT. Especially with porn and instagram showing how amazing women can look.

>>83032038
It's not just a rash. It makes the skin bumpy in texture and look diseased/rough.

>>83031976 (OP)
I don't mind, also I love freckles and my only gf had rosacea I found it really cute since it looked a bit like freckles. You can always heal a skin condtion and temp stuff like that is just superfical. Also don't mind akne, scars, small boobs and a lanky body. Just loose skin if it is too much and being fat but ofc I have my preferences.

>>83031976 (OP)
you're not looking for a man you love though you're just looking for a breadwinner caretaker rock so you shouldnt care if he is desperate because most of us are, the divorce rate is 45% in the US because of women like you

>>83031976 (OP)
i have this it's called keratosis pilaris. and i have some scars from chickenpox. my boyfriend doesn't care. he has eczema and acne scars too.

>>83031976 (OP)
Yes I could love a tall girl with scars, small boobs and a permanent skin condition, so long as she makes me feel loved, but then again, I AM desperate. I think the vast majority of young men are these days.

>>83031976 (OP)
no, we can't force ourselves to desire ugly bodies.

only jeet niggers are desperate enough to fuck ugly pieces of shit

>>83032057
You can get turned on by ugliness?

>>83032065
Freckles and rosacea are actually cute though :(

>>83032069
I think the skin condition alone could work. You are most likely not as ugly as me naked. I have many other defects. Sometimes when I see what healthy or normal or even beautiful women look naked I am in shock.

>>83032063
You already know the answer hoebag. Go make a tinder and post your body.

>>83032063
>It makes the skin bumpy in texture and look diseased/rough.
Neanderthal gene. Just like freckles.

>>83031976 (OP)
>Can anyone desire this WITHOUT desperation? I don't mean just "I take any gf I can get I am desperate" but someone well adjusted. How grossed out would you be?
You don't desire this, but it is also not gross. It's a normal, human thing to have some flaws. If the girl is otherwise normal and actually wants me and be with me, all these small quirks are just non-issues. Regarding the body, for me personally, her face being cute/pretty/not ugly ranks way above anything else. And don't be fat.

>>83032084
Can you guys relax please with the incel posting about Chad and "go out and get fucked on tinder" ....

>>83032063
>Especially with porn and instagram showing how amazing women can look
I mean, i don't think anyone expects real sex to be just like porn, in my opinion even if it were it'd be worse. things are good and feel real because they are flawed in real life, there are awkward moments, mistakes and things you aren't sure how to do for two people who are virgins experiencing sex for that first time, and that is what it makes it infinitely more valuable and special than whatever anyone could have with a porn actor or model, so don't overthink about it too much fembot

>>83032063
You're just insecure. I have acne and some hyperpigmented spots from it and it bothers me a bit, women still find me attractive regardless.
>but my naked body doesn't look super hot!
OK cool, throw on some sexy lingerie. Learn how to speak in a sexy way. Find someone with compatible kinks. Have compatible personalities and interests, fall in love with each other. Love is a potent aphrodisiac. Get a pretty haircut and put on some makeup. Work out to get a better ass and thighs.

>>83032082
>You can get turned on by ugliness?
it wouldn't be perceived as ugly if it's a characteristic of someone i love, so yeah i'd eventually be turned on by that, want to kiss it and stuff

>>83032092
No, I can't. If you want a real answer then going out and touching grass is the best way to do it. Make a tinder profile and you'll see that there will be a horde of hundreds of men slobbering for a chance to lick your toes.

>>83031976 (OP)
I have these spots too. I wouldn't care if a girl had them.
>she's tall
I'm short so no go for me.
>has scars
depends what type
>loose skin
depends
>weird
a positive
>small boobs
another plus

>>83032099
>You're just insecure. I have acne and some hyperpigmented spots from it and it bothers me a bit, women still find me attractive regardless.
You're a man and rough things look fine on men. Scars, bumpy skin, wrinkles. You are not a delicate female to be desired!!!

>>83032108
I do not want a fuckboy from Tinder I only want a deep, soul bonding monogamous relationship for LIFE.

>>83032082
everyone gets gross skin as they age. it's part of life. there are ointments you can use to reduce the appearance of both keratosis pilaris and hyperpigmentation if it concerns you that much. i've also found that diet has a big impact on KP. eating processed foods makes them more prominent. try switching to a whole foods only diet, make sure you're exercising and drink only water, maybe tea or coffee also if you must have a hot drink but don't put extra crap in it. picrel what i use for KP. and remember to moisturize after you shower.
here, for the hyperpigmentation try these: adapalene, azaleic acid, alpha-hydroxy acid

>>83032128
>I only want a deep, soul bonding monogamous relationship for LIFE
Hi fembot, you taking applications?

>>83032082
>Freckles and rosacea are actually cute though
Yeah I know just saying there are worse things like being fat or or being disfigured.

this bitch is retarded as dafuq my nigga

>>83032128
>You're a man and rough things look fine on men. Scars, bumpy skin, wrinkles. You are not a delicate female to be desired!
Except I don't look like some scarred thug, I'm a lanky pale nerd. I've also dated women with acne and eczema btw.
>I do not want a fuckboy from Tinder I only want a deep, soul bonding monogamous relationship for LIFE.
Then, again, refer to what I said in my previous post. Date someone who wants the same and fall in love with each other.

>>83032103
>it wouldn't be perceived as ugly if it's a characteristic of someone i love, so yeah i'd eventually be turned on by that, want to kiss it and stuff

>>83032135
I have good skin on my face because I hid myself in the basement all my life so I got no sun light and I use treatments that promote collagen. So zero acne or wrinkles in my face, but my body all below my neck is FUCKED UP. I see other women older than me in tank tops or bikinis and it's nice and smooth. I am genetically fucked and also through a lot of weight loss I am not firm, I am like a flabby, loose skin balloon.
>here, for the hyperpigmentation try these: adapalene, azaleic acid, alpha-hydroxy acid
Thank you, I will give it a go again. I remember trying some of these and it took years to fade my spots and I gave up.

>>83032140
Apologies I am too mentally unwell to even begin a relationship before I work on myself. I do not wish the thread to derail into this kind of thing. I just want the opinion of men (or women, who went through this) how they would feel if they had a physically ugly naked girlfriend with various defects and if they can find that hot without just being desperate for any kind of naked female.

>>83032063
>ketosis pilaris
Doesn't really bother me tbdesu.
>tall
>lanky
That's my type. I don't like tall girls as a fetish or in a "step on me mommy" kind of way, I just think they're hot.
>small boobs
Generally also my preference, small boobs tend to be shaped more nicely
>loose skin
That's the only part that I would maybe find off putting depending on how loose

Past some basic physical features like not being obese and being of the same race as me, I don't care much for looks. How a girl treats me is incredibly important. I'm avpd so getting close to people is hard for me.
>I've never been romantically/intimately touched
I like this a lot because I never have either. My looks are very average, average height at 5'9, and on the slender side. I'm not bad looking, just very avoidant. I would really like to be with a girl who also has no experience so we can grow together in our relationship. I'd like to think that two blank slates without any previous baggage would bond really intensely if they both like each other and have good intentions from the start.

>>83031976 (OP)
Idk there are some turn offs...
Mostly about style... That one girl gained the stupidest little amount of weight she had the body of a model before and one time she left my bed in her ugly panties or something it gave her an ugly ass and I felt a guttural ick from ancestral times and I cannot repair this moment...
Whenever I finger her now I feel like her handler or something she probably like me a lot and doesn't know that I feel no heat inside... I'm just doing my job as a man

>>83031976 (OP)
When I was a teenager, I had acne so bad that I would spontaneously start bleeding from the pores in my face a few times a day. I was given medication to treat it but my mother confiscated it out of fear of the side effects, so for about 10 years I couldn't bear to look at myself in the mirror and I constantly felt like crying when I had to go out in public, so I became a NEET after high school.
I've mostly recovered and rehabilitated, though I now have deep acne scars that won't go away without expensive surgery, and an extensive daily skincare routine out of fear that it might happen again. I think I would be sympathetic to any kind of skin condition.
I am in love with a fembot who is on the lankier side, but I don't think she feels the same way about me.

>>83032063
tirzepatide could fix it, it seemingly fixes certain inflammation problems for some people. You could also try low dose methadexasone.

apart from that, it sucks but laser is probably the one thing that would help you but its expensive

>>83032063
also oral tranexamic acid and oral thiamidol (i got raw powder from china and checked purity) made it so i didnt get any or very little PIH. Also check if you have enough progesterone for your estrogen as estrogen is a melanocytic agonist while prog inhibits it

>>83032008
rich billionaire men are notorious for cheating and having mistresses lmao..

>>83032063
holy shit this is giving me the creeps
Am I being watched or something?

>>83031976 (OP)
I wouldn't care much about this. It doesn't look bad Imo. Why do women act as if we are as picky as them?

>>83031976 (OP)
if we worked together and you flirted with me and touched my arm/hand "incidentally' i'd eventually have a crush, as long as you weren't fat fat

>>83032063
>Muh incurable skin disease!
Doesn't matter. You could have gotten psoriasis instead, so consider yourself lucky. I have the same thing you have.
>"Even without treatment, most cases of keratosis pilaris start to clear around your mid-20s, and usually completely disappears by age 30." (https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/17758-keratosis-pilaris)

>>83031976 (OP)
I have this shit too as a male. I hate it as I have to pull out ingrown hairs from it sometimes. Only have the red dots on my upper arms like in your pic and front of thighs. It manifests itself in other less obvious ways around the body though. Sucks ass, I also have fordyce spots on my lips.

>>83032228
Tirzepatide fixes chicken skin? It's a genetic issue where the cells don't produce proper lipid walls or something and it causes bacteria to invade the skin pores. Or do you mean hyper pigmentation?

>>83032236
I have brown ancestry I'm half brown I think that's why. I paled out living in a cold country but my natural skin is olive-brown and it causes these super dark melanin spots.

>>83032383
I'm 26 with no change in sight and my relatives who have it too kept it well into their old age. I don't count on it magically disappearing.

>>83032357
That's not reassuring at all. It only sounds desperate and that you are happy to get any crumb of female you can get... instead of really choosing a person.

>>83032275
What do you mean?

>>83032394
I know it also sucks for men no doubt but I always just thought that rough things look better on men. Lots of body hair, scars, pimples, I don't know... unless you want to be a hairless feminine twink then it won't.

>>83031976 (OP)
Plenty of us incels are fine with ugly bodies but females hate incels so much. Y'all just want the best men and then get frustrated that they are picky. Stop being picky yourself! Fuck your standards!

>>83031976 (OP)
>it helps to illustrate my point.
are you saying freckles make someone "ugly"?
do not dare insult the mark of the chosen, freckles are GODLY and i will NOT stand for you insulting them like this >:^(

>she's tall
i fucking love tall girls, what the fuck
>has scars
i don't care much for scars, i find them cool sometimes
>loose skin
i'd poke fun at her for it harmlessly but that's it, i don't care
>weird
how so? i like weird usually
>small boobs on a lanky body
bruh that's fucking great

you haven't listed anything here that could count as "ugly", at least not to me
i don't know what the fuck you're on about, dude

>>83032546
Chicken skin are not freckles. Freckles are very cute. Chicken skin is rough and textured/bumpy.

>you haven't listed anything here that could count as "ugly", at least not to me
That's reassuring. This whole thread is. Thank you.

>>83032632
>Chicken skin
ah, it'd help if the image was a higher res, it just looked like freckles to me
still, it wouldn't bother me, and if it bothered her so much, i'd help her do some skin treatment to get rid of that

appearance-wise i'm not too picky about... "defects", as people would call them
what matters most to me in a girl is how nicely we click together, if we have the maturity to fix things up when we argue, if we get to spend a decent amount of time together without making each other feel terrible, if we trust each other enough to be vulnerable around each other, etc.
i feel like those small things are much more important than looks, and besides, i'm attracted to conventionally unattractive anyway, so...

>>83032413
I'm 27 and mine has no signs of disappearing.

>>83031976 (OP)
I had this on the backs of my arms, I just scrape it with a metal ruler every few months and it's fine.

>>83032745
Yeah, I think for some of us it's just a permanent genetic fuck up.

>>83031976 (OP)
Girl that keratosis pilaris and i have something for you.

USE RETINOL USE RETINOL PLEEEAAASE. It works like wonders, i had keratosis polaris too. See picrel? Its a body serum that does wonders. Layer that with a thick as lotion or vaselin, give it 5 montha and they are gonna be almost gone.

>>83031976 (OP)
i honestly dont care we all have imperfections and who knows? sometimes people like what you dont like about your body and if it is a girl i like i would not be disgusted at all

>>83032128
you have simps already what are you waiting for? Are they not good enough for you?

>>83032816
Thank you. I might give it a try again. I actually have pure tretinoin (the even stronger version) and it didn't do much but I didn't try for months. How often do you use that body serum? Do you use it on moist skin?

>>83032876
You people are so odd... this logic of just eating anything you get because you are hungry. I don't want someone in my life who just immediately jumps on any woman who says she is ugly and alone. I want someone who connected with me SPECIFICALLY and doesn't just get horny/into any ugly women because he wants to get laid. Nothing about this is romantic or heartfelt. It's like wolves eating the garbage scraps that no one else wanted and not particularly caring what kind of garbage you are.

I said before this isn't a thread for me to connect or talk to men in private. I wish to have a civil and honest conversation with men (or women, who have similar experiences) about this topic.

>>83032972
>You people are so odd... this logic of just eating anything you get because you are hungry. I don't want someone in my life who just immediately jumps on any woman who says she is ugly and alone.
That's because
a) you have options
b) you are less predisposed to needing affection for emotional stability
c) men being mistreated by women is the default

>>83031976 (OP)
> other defects like she's tall
The female mind is unsalvageable.

>>83032972
its a long thread and I havent read the whole thing, but the answer is maybe. I mean you said not out of desperation? what do you mean by that? Im an ugly man who has dated really hot girls and I still dont know how to feel about it. They all had mental problems, and I felt like I was the only one who as really there and present for them.

desperate for what? a body? or desperate for someone who connects deeply with them and maybe its just hard for them because of their issues or timing or any other reason. I think a lonely guy would crave your body if you meet him in a way that no one else has. source: I was a lonely guy who genuinely craved a fat 4/10 girl who was sweet and kind to me, and let me be vulnerable around her. I fell in love with a girl just through text before. (she ended up being hot though, but I dont think she needed to be).

Your skin condition doesn't really seem like something that I would really care about desu though.

>>83032944
I use it every day. But you work it up, so you have to start at like 2 days a week and take more and more eventually. But it works like wonders. Youse it at night-time, and take a thick as coating of cream. And you have to be consistent, give it time. Really good results come after like 4 months.

>>83032972
He didnt say anything about getting laid and who says there isnt guys who wants to talk to you because who you are. Maybe you are already talking to them but because of your own insecuritys you think the worst of them?

>>83033110
Thank you!! I wrote it down and check if I can get something here locally.

>>83033098
Tall is the least desirable height for women. But I meant more in terms of proportion, me being tall and having a small chest makes me look disproportionally stupid. If you lack the curves to balance out your long limbs and big bones. Short or average women look more proportional with a small or average chest than tall ones.

>>83033097
>you are less predisposed to needing affection for emotional stability
This is a joke, right? Women bond even harder through touch than men. That's why men can fuck around with no attachments and many women develop strong bonds if a man cuddles and fucks them properly. I see it happen all the time with my friends.

>>83033103
It seems like a negative to go from tasting hot bodies to downgrade to an ugly woman.

>>83032063
I'm a guy with the same skin condition, and I have a slight protrusion in my sternum called pectus carinatum. Would you ever be willing to have sex with someone who has a weird body like you do? Or do you only want a 6 foot, jacked guy with perfect skin and proportions.

Lotion arms after shower, if it's parasitic or fungal use antifungal shampoo or ivermectin cream gl.

can we fucking stop the simping already? OP is just looking for attention and you retards never fail to deliver

>>83033194
It's not parasitic or fungal, it's literally genetic and there is no cure, only treatment.

>>83033147
Okey il bullet it

> after taking a damp shower take a dolop of the serum on your whole body
>let the serum sit for like 10 min, do your hair or brush your teeth in the meantime
>after it has penetrated the skin, take a thick layer of cream/ aquaphor.

And voila!! Good luck anonette.
Also if it helps ima a tall and lanky girl too, and we look fabulous! Take care sweetheart, sending hugs and kisses :)

>>83031976 (OP)
Skin conditions suck to live with and they are a detractor but you can still find some guy happy to have you if you're fit (not fat) and kind to him. Women don't seem to get just how much being a caring and affectionate person is worth to a man because they always go for the abusechad that treats her like shit because of her toxic parents. Most men are treated worse than dogs and wild animals their entire lives by most people so put that in perspective how much kindness is worth to ordinary men.

>>83033147
>This is a joke, right? Women bond even harder through touch than men. That's why men can fuck around with no attachments and many women develop strong bonds if a man cuddles and fucks them properly. I see it happen all the time with my friends.
That's because they're selecting for those kinds of men. Overall, men initiate more relationships, end fewer relationships, measure a greater level of depression after a breakup, and take longer to find a new partner. Men are more suicidal than women, and lack of romantic success dwarfs all other reasons for those suicides.
https://womensagenda.com.au/latest/men-are-more-dependent-on-committed-relationships-than-women-new-study-shows/

>>83033173
I think the skin condition works better on men than women visually. I have men in my family who have it and I don't mind it on them, as they are more rugged people anyway. I googled Pectus Carinatum and I would say it depends. Some of the pictures I have seen looked extreme, the more mild cases don't bother me.

If I am being honest I would have a hard time feeling sexually attracted to a woman who looks like me. That's why I made the thread because I project and struggle to see how any man who isn't just desperate for any "bitch" so to speak would consider a below average woman physically to be genuinely satisfying and desirable. I don't mind AVERAGE bodies at all who look mostly normal with like a little flaw her or there. I am below average naked.

>>83033206
Yes, that's why I am actively discouraging it and telling everyone to stay on topic and that I am not looking for a boyfriend, ""simps"" (I don't like the word but it was used in here) or personal contact. I am not posting pictures of myself and I clarified that I will not add anyone or seek to be added. Please shut the fuck up.

>>83032128
>You are not a delicate female to be desired!!!
I hope you die an excruciatingly painful death for how you treat men you ugly vile whore.

>>83033214
Well keep telling yourself that and stop trying to fix it. I had the same shit and made it go away.

>>83033234
>Please shut the fuck up.
then go post on reddit, that's where you belong you huge retard, there's a whole webpage for normies like you

>>83033220
Thank you... seriously. I feel so shit about this condition all over my body and I remember doing treatments but I got so tired of doing it for weeks every day and having minimal effects when most adult people just wake up with smooth skin. I feel more motivated to give it a try again because of your posts and that you took your time to reach out to me with your experience. I appreciate your kindness.

>>83032063
So it's like permanent hives? That isn't so bad.
And you have scars from when you used to cut yourself? That's fairly common now.
Do you have a moustache? A lazy eye? Crooked teeth which overlap? Are you missing an ear? Did you survive a fire with severe burns? Does your nose hook down into your mouth?

>>83033251
Why does it enrage you this much that I made one thread? I am not asking any man for anything. I am not adding anyone, I am not giving anyone false hope, I do not post pictures of me. I am 26 year old freak who has never been touched and sits at home suicidal every day with ugly pimples and scars all over my fucking body so miserable I scratch myself bloody and wake up at night vomiting and dizzy from stress because I am so demented mentally and physically. This is an anonymous place from fellow losers or half-losers who can be completely honest with me how they feel about this. And you throw a melty over one THREAD what is your problem??? I know people here are miserable or even more miserable and actually have harder lives than me and you just stomp on me on top of it for no fucking reason.

>>83033233
I think it's because men don't have friendships or family bonds as deep as women so they fully depend on their relationships for any of those needs to be fulfilled. But strictly physically speaking I believe that women have more chemical cocktails going on with Oxytocin and such when touched compared to men.

Men aren't more suicidal than women but they end up using more deadly methods to die and thus, unfortunately, die more often.

>>83033222
>Most men are treated worse than dogs
Do men treat each other like shit?

>>83033303
>I think it's because men don't have friendships or family bonds as deep as women
We do, they're called brothers. I have two (non blood related) brothers that I would die for.
>>83031976 (OP)
What even is there to discuss?
>Can anyone desire this WITHOUT desperation?
> I don't mean just "I take any gf I can get I am desperate" but someone well adjusted
By well adjusted you likely mean non-virgin/normalfag.
>But imagine you had a girlfriend who had a permanent skin condition
I literally do not give a shit
>Imagine if she also had other defects like she's tall, has scars, loose skin, weird, small boobs on a lanky body.
What matters is that we get along and I find her beautiful on the inside.
>desiring a Chad/Stacey body (which is valid)
You're mentally ill and shallow if you truly believe any of this, and would ultimately judge me on m looks, that is why I do not want you.

>>83033261
Awww anonette!! If I was next to you i would give you a massive hug. Good luck on your journey. And let me tell ya what, the most important thing is that you get comfortable in your own skin. Just taje care of your body, you deserve nothing less than the best. It doesnt matter what others think, at the end of the day, you are the only person that will see the best of you and the worst too. Stay consistent! And remeber to use sunscreen too. <3

>>83033302
My face is actually more asymmetrical than the average person cause I had facial paralysis for a month (no... I did not get vaxxed... the doctor do not know why) and I had to relearn to to move my face muscles. When I was fully healed, my nerves connected more poorly I guess so now I look not as normal or symmetrical than the average person.

I don't even want to make these blog posts. I just want to clarify that it's not all in my head. Because sometimes women are quite cute but have body dysmorphia. Trust me, I don't. I am objectively below average and have several defects or gross things about me. But this thread already made me a little more happy, as some men and women have expressed that they could still genuinely desire someone who was uglier than the average person naked.

>>83033331
>You're mentally ill and shallow if you truly believe any of this

I opened the board today and the first thread I saw was a guy asking or complaining that he will never have a Stacey girlfriend like this and posted a 10/10 naked girl.

>>83033341
:')
May your kindness be returned to you.
>And remeber to use sunscreen too. <3
Always!!

>>83033366
>>I opened the board today and the first thread I saw was a guy asking or complaining that he will never have a Stacey girlfriend like this and posted a 10/10 naked girl.
Yeah and he's a mentally ill shallow faggot too, tired of this shit.

>>83033385
Then most of humanity are "mentally ill shallow faggots" and to feel insecure about it makes sense.

>>83033147
>it seems like a negative thing to go from tasting hot bodies to downgrade to an ugly woman

Yeah it is a negative to be ugly, Im not sure how much of one but I will say in my own experience of dating a fat girl right after a hot one, the sexual desire was about the same within the relationship, but outside of the relationship I still have some desire for the hot one, and none for the fat one. Like her nudes still get me hard, but the nudes of the fat girl does nothing for me now.

But sexual desire outside of relationships is meaningless bullshit anyways, so who really cares.

>>83033399
Yeah, they are. Normalcattle content in obsessing over whatever gets pushed to their screens, fake garbage, fake plastic people, fake lives.
Stop obsessing over fake bullshit.

>>83033303
I am 26 year old freak who has never been touched and sits at home suicidal every day with ugly pimples and scars all over my fucking body so miserable I scratch myself bloody and wake up at night vomiting and dizzy from stress because I am so demented mentally and physically

Kind of unrelated but this was me as a male when I was 28, as I had severe eczema and social issues. you want to know the wild wilddddd part of it? My lifelong eczema literally just disappeared after I started talking with a girl that I loved. Fucking insane. Idk might not be your issue but I thought Id share, wild the effects loneliness has on the body.

>>83033457
lmao sounds like some fairyfale
>when the incel found his foid his illnes went away

>>83033480
when I found a girl that I liked, that I talked to every day,and felt like I was actually wanted and she was real, I got momentum and numerous changes happened to my body chemistry as a result, I took care of myself, I was happy, she said she wanted to be with me
at one point I even wanted to marry her in my stupid naive ldr
of course that ended with her fucking some other guy so

>>83033457
The power of love..

>>83031976 (OP)
Pic related + description isn't really a big deal, but the question isn't "are there men who like x?"

The answer is yes. The answer is always yes. The real question you should be asking is "do I like men who like x?"

Because chances are no, you don't.

>>83033480
fr it was. I literally doubled the amount of money I was making, and I had gas in my veins everyday I woke up. Im not talking to any foids anymore as Im trying to take some normie advice about working on myself first. its kind of nice but my eczema has started coming back a bit.

People weren't really meant to be alone, but I do want some peace for now

>>83031976 (OP)
This kind of shit is pure tunnel vision. No one will give a single fuck about your red spotty skin if you are altogether good looking. Your body shape and face are defining features, not whether you have acne or some stupid red bumps.
Comparing OP picture to >>83032082, the second one is a fatter and browner person so it's automatically less attractive. It's also probably a male, but regardless, point is that this kind of stuff is just a minor detail. If you make it fit your overall image, it can even be played for a plus.

>>83032063
40% of adults have KP you dumb nigger, you're not some leper

>>83033825
KP has extreme variance in degree. Most adults don't have strong KP.

>>83031976 (OP)

I can only see a girl ugly if she is
#1 fat
#2 black
#3 a combination of ;disgustingly cold, slutty, and always angry. (any 2 of #3 may still be pretty from a distance but not wife material)

Actually i did see a few pretty VERY pretty black girls but due to slight racism from only black guys pulling guns on me with intent to kill me on the street i dont want to be near anything that can claim African American heritage.

The prettiest girl i ever knew had acne and red possibly eczema spots on her skin she weighed less than me (im 170) and was kind.
So as long as your fat isnt greater than mine own i wont feel strange and unattracted.
Also skeleton girls creep me out euginia coon is weird and needs a dozen burger sundaes

>>83032051
Have you ever felt the touch of a woman?

>>83033918
Also she was as flat as a board i dont care about the ass or tit size in fact i think i prefer smller ass because my dick is only 5 AND 1/2 inches so doggystyle with big booty girl is not possible.

>>83033967
have you ever felt the cock of a chad

>>83033984
>because my dick is only 5 AND 1/2 inches so doggystyle with big booty girl is not possible.
Seriously?

If you are with a man they'll find you attractive. They talk big about wanting stacey bodies but most women don't have that so most men make do. I've got droopy wonky boobs but my man still likes how I look. That's the whole point

>>83031976 (OP)
>Can men desire ugly bodies?
I got a crush on a girl in my university that has a disfigured face, not out of pity or some shit. Her mouth and nose are tilted to the side and one of her eyes is a little big smaller like guasimodo, normally I'd probably find her ugly but she carries herself with a lot of confidence and dresses very stylish so she gave some cool vibes from the get-go which made me feel very attracted to her.

Also, just today I stood behind her in the elevator and saw that she has an INSANEly nice ass

>>83033989
Based off your response it is safe to assume that no woman has ever looked or touched you but who could blame them with a mentality like yours? And to answer your question yes I like the taste of chads dick ^_^

>>83034068
tell me what it tasted like, how you felt when you took it, how you felt afterward

That red shit wouldn't even register as a problem to me. I think I might have it too on my forearms.
I think it's one of those things that register as disgusting to the person that has it, that other don't even notice.
Personal anecdote: I have a nose slightly bent to one side. It's visibly pointing slightly to the right, and this is very clear when I raise my head and you can see the nostrils.
I was doing an assignment and making video with a girl from uni. She told me she'd prefer me to be the face of it because her nose is bent. I didn't even see it. And she didn't even see my bend.
I think this red skin thing is in the same category as my nose. No one even knows it's there, just you.

>attentionwhoring curable thing
Yeah you belong here foid.

>>83033992
Im saying facts bro. But i never tried it. One of my online Exes after she broke up with me told me one of her friends couldn't doggystyle with her and his dick looked as big as mine.

She did apologize and say it wouldn't have happened if i was there to love her and take care of her and that she only wanted someone to love and have sex with but i was 10,000 miles away so she got used by 3 guys before she met her favorite engineer man.
Ive made improvements in monetary status but downgrade in living conditions and am going to college for welding while studying math at home.
Such tragic happenings will befall your son too if hes homeschooled in such a rural area with sunday and Wednesday church being his only access to the opposite gender.

>>83034130
my dick is 6 and I could barely doggystyle a girl. And I don't know which one is reverse cowgirl or just cowgirl, but I also wasn't big enough to do the one where she faces away from you.

>>83034130
>>83034447
So any woman who doesn't have a totally skinny ass won't be able to have doggy style sex with her bf unless he has a monster dong? I have a hard time believing that.

>>83031976 (OP)
Of all the things to be insecure about a minor skin condition with no health implications is what fills you with dread?

>>83031976 (OP)
that's just called being slavic

>>83034526
It's not a minor skin condition. It's all over the body (legs, arms, butt) with rough, pimply skin and it's just one of MANY defects I have.

>>83031976 (OP)
>>83032082
whats even wrong with these pictures desuwa?
just look like normal arms

>>83032077
Not desperation, its primal horniness. Male animals cant be picky so they plap whatever they catch.

>>83034594
Can barely see it unless I zoom in. You're mentally ill and looking for a scapegoat. Women can't be incels.

>>83034594
Yeah I have it too, and if it's like the pic almost nobody will care to notice it. Again if you have all these other defects why focus on this one?

>>83034607
Normal arms don't look like that. If yours do, you have a genetic condition called Keratosis Pilaris.

>>83034663
Would rape....oregg

>>83034687
Is this supposed to make me not erect?

>>83034641
my arms looked like that though and i started exfoliating properly and it went away

>>83034687
>>83034663
Would smash. Keep pretending it's not your choice, foid

>>83034641
i just dont think i would notice something like this, it just looks like different flavors of arms desu

>>83034719
Severity varies a lot. I could reduce it by 50% if I follow a strict regime and kept myself moist and sticky like 2-3x a day on my whole body but it's so exhausting to commit to it every single day cover arms, legs, butts, be sticky and feel nastily moist and then after months only have half reduction meanwhile most adult people just have smooth skin for free.

>>83034760
Where you bullied because of it or something? I don't know how else something so minor can seem so significant to you.

>>83034724
>>83034711
So what wouldn't you smash? I figure most men ITT would also have sex with trannies and put their dick in male asshole to get laid.

>>83034788
>I'M SO DISGUSTING
>ewww no thanks I have standards
fucking poetry, kill yourself you vapid slag

>>83034783
How is it minor if you literally 99% never see it in any desirable women? Instagram, models, porn? Do you see men post pimple-ass women or chicken skinned? I am sure here or there but 99% absolutely not.

And yes I was bullied. I always wore a pullover even when it was warm and the guys behind me asked me why my back looks so weird, they could see through the fabric.

>>83034800
So you would fuck literally men in the ass (trannies) thanks for proving my point.

>>83034788
Id fuck girly trannies too, Im a total fucking monkey

>>83034802
keep living your lie, whore

>>83034803
>Id fuck girly trannies too, Im a total fucking monkey
Yeah, I figured. It's over.

>>83034076
If you are so curious to know just go take chads dick

>>83034817
trannies look better than most women these days, don't take it personally

>>83034802
Genuinely if you can afford it go to a psychologist, this degree of insecurity can't be healthy

>>83034832
You are not helping my showing that men just fuck everything.

>>83034849
and women only fuck chad, what's your point

>>83034687
Holy shit nice ass. Do you have discord please add me

>>83031976 (OP)
Honestly, the only real turn-offs for me are if a woman's severely overweight or missing a limb, but even then, a great personality can completely change how I feel. I'm 6'3" and actually prefer tall girls; a slim or lanky build is fine as long as you look healthy. Big boobs aren't a must either; a lot of guys, including me, like smaller ones just as much.

What really excites me about a girl is her personality, her hobbies, and the things she's passionate about. Sure, sex is great, but a relationship built only on that won't last; it usually ends once the physical novelty fades. Some guys even chase girls for their specific "flaws" or problems, but that's not real love.

I'd also advise you to avoid guys who see you as a damsel in distress; they need to "save" They're not in love with you; they're attached to your pain. I know this because I've made that mistake myself, getting attracted to girls who were depressed, insecure, or going through heavy stuff, only to lose interest once they got better and didn't need my attention constantly.

Even though people say I'm good-looking, I've had my own issues from childhood trauma. I used to scratch my face so badly it bled, and I carried those scars for years. Luckily, they've mostly faded now. I just hope you're doing okay, too, anon.

>>83031976 (OP)
>can anyone desire these undesirable traits
the answer is no

>>83034882
That's a random woman from google...

>>83035307
oh, nevermind then.

>>83031976 (OP)

It depends on the individual man.
Most of us are attracted to visual stimulus, of those is more common to find stacies attractive than having a weird fetish, but is also common to not care at all about some imperfections.
Other of us are attracted to the personality, the most desired personality I guess is cute and innocent, but some people like sluts.
There are a few of us that need emotional connection to desire a woman.

So yeah, a lot of different types of men would desire a woman with imperfect skin, men are not a hive mind.


I'm ESL as fuck but I used to be insecure too so I understand how that feels

>>83034802
Obviously not. Men talk big, its bravado, they share the fantasy stacey. but then you see a picture of the average guys girlfriend and she looks like an absolute troll. Men by and large take what pussy they can and are grateful for it. The whole point of living someone is that you find them attractive, most couples are pretty ugly when you really look around. Are you only counting the opinions of Chads who are put of your league anyway? If you are uggo go for an uggo. It's easy. I'm an aging 4 at best and my boyfriend is a 7 with a big willy mind you. Hes obsessed with me Maybe you don't need to go to low.

>>83034687
Mine looks like that. Boyfriend doesnt even notice. Try a salicylic acid wash.

>>83031976 (OP)
What? I thought this shit was normal

>>83031976 (OP)
I'm sure this is bait but the dudes on here aren't reflective of people you'd probably meet in real life. Men don't care about the shit women care about, I doubt any straight guy would even notice the shit you're talking about.
People on r9k have internet poisoning and I also think the reason they're so "picky" about women is just because they're straight up faggots and trying to cope about it. "Ohh she has tattoos ohhh she has a nose ring, she has (insert random imperfection that nobody actually cares about) so I'm not attracted to her" is just cope for being in denial about liking men.

If you don't act like a vapid retard and aren't morbidly obese your insecurity is the only thing holding you back.

>>83031976 (OP)
Really? This isnt enough to warrant being insecure

>>83031976 (OP)
I have chickenskin too. Just stop eating wheat and dairy and it goes away for some reason, at least in my family.
>she's tall,
So trans?
>has scars
Trans scars?
>loose skin
Trans skin?
>small boobs on a lanky body.
Amab body?
>Can anyone desire this WITHOUT desperation?
Yes.
>I don't mean just "I take any gf I can get I am desperate" but someone well adjusted.
Desperation is the male condition until we finally get a relationship, anon. Unfortunately the answer to your question is yes. Men will lust after femdom and weird women in general and even actual trannies even in happy relationships.
>How grossed out would you be?
Not at all. Men aren't typically grossed out. Granted, I'm not in a relationship, so I don't have to cheat on anyone else for this. Men like to fuck women. It's why our species is built more for survival than reproduction. Men would fuck any woman who survived and weren't picky.

>>83031976 (OP)
>bait post involving women
>reaches thread limit
Every time