Thread 83033724

How is drunk women being raped not their fault? They drank the alcohol and knew the risk.

>>83033724 (OP)
What intrinsic property of alcohol makes women get raped?

>>83033739
What intrinsic property of alcohol makes men rape?

>>83033739
men. its always men. alcohol is just means. a tool.

>>83033753
it lets them be their true selves and show who they really are.
In vino veritas.

>>83033755
>>83033753
There are men in the alcohol that rape the women? What are you talking about?

>>83033724 (OP)
If you got hit by a speeding car whose driver was out looking for pedestrians to hit with his car, should we blame you for walking next to the road? You did know the risk after all.

>>83033755
what you westoids are really saying is that you rather take the risk of rape and death than just ban alcohol.

>>83033770
>If you got hit by a speeding car whose driver was out looking for pedestrians to hit with his car, should we blame you for walking next to the road? You did know the risk after all.
what a reddit tier fucking dumpster fire of a comparison.

>>83033792
And yet you can't refute it :)

i think op means how when a woman agrees to have sex while drunk and later regrets it and gets to charge the guy with rape because she was under the influence. in any other circumstance actions taken while intoxicated are always judged to be your responsibility

>>83033807
the burden of proof is on you to explain how your comparison makes sense, you still didnt formulate your actual counterargument.

>>83033777
we live in a patriarchy

>>83033885
>r*ddit filename

>>83033866
The claim you made is that when a woman drinks alcohol and then gets raped, the fault is (somehow) her own, presumably because drinking alcohol increases the risk of being raped. I will assume that what you mean is that being drunk makes you more vulnerable and less able to defend yourself from a rapist.

If a man wants to rape a woman, he can just rape her and there is very little she can do about it. The analogy goes that if a man wants to hit you with his car, then he can just hit you with his car and there is very little you can do about it. In both cases, the crime was committed by the rapist or hit-and-run driver. In both cases, the victim was unable to defend themself against the perpetrator. Why is the criminal action of someone else the fault of the victim?

Next time you are walking down the street, would it be your fault if I hit you with my car? You did know the risk of walking down the street after all. If you didn't want me to hit you with my car, you could have just stayed inside. I would have really really wanted to hit you with my car too. It's like a primal urge, so it's not like you can blame me.

you could just not have sex with people who don't give you explicit consent. it's kind of easy.

>>83033934
you do realize two parties can be at fault for something? this isn't first grade.
rationally a drunk man cant be at fault for rape without a drunk woman being at fault for her own rape.
you either quit the double standards or make alcohol illegal.

>>83034003
Oh? What exactly is a female rape victim at fault for doing? What crime did she commit? Are you suggesting that men simply lack the ability to control their impulses or something?

Next time you drink alcohol, would it be your fault if I raped you? Come on, if we were both drunk it would be your fault too haha. This isn't first grade haha. Why won't you ansewr my questions? Can I hit you with my car or not? Would you accept responsibility for being hit by my car even though you knew that it was risky walking down the street?

A drunk woman on her own won't get raped

It requiress active intent and action from a moid

>>83034039
>Oh? What exactly is a female rape victim at fault for doing?
her rape
>What crime did she commit?
what does legality have to do with this and are we not talking about liabilities? youre having a full on toddler meltdown. "WAHHH BUT WHAT DID I DOOO" youre a dumbass.
>>83034039
>Next time you drink alcohol, would it be your fault if I raped you?
yes it would, because i dont drink alcohol because im not a retard, dumb fuck. reread my previous reply. your entire argument is retarded lies upon being an apologist for alcohol. you absolutely do deserve your rape or death caused by alcohol. thanks for playing.

>>83034102
>her rape
She raped herself?

>youre having a full on toddler meltdown.
>"WAHHH BUT WHAT DID I DOOO"
>youre a dumbass.
>dumb fuck
>your entire argument is retarded
>you absolutely do deserve your rape or death
The jokes just write themselves kek

You still haven't refuted my analogy though. I think that if I hit you with my car, it would be your fault for leaving the house and walking down the street, even though you knew that walking down the street put you at risk of being hit by my car. If you don't respond to this claim then it means you were buck broken in this conversation and your original point was destroyed with facts and logic kek

>hanging out with untrustworthy men
>drinking with them to the point of not being in control
>le it was rape because I regret it after sobering up

>>83034149
>>her rape
>She raped herself?
yup, perhaps she consented at that point.

>"drinking alcohol is like a 0.0001% chance of getting ran over on the street"
you not knowing the consequences of alcohol still makes it your fault
and since youre low IQ youre forgetting that if a man can rape drunk and be at fault than a woman can be drunk raped and be at fault. your isolated scenario is already refuted and not what we are talking about.

>>83033724 (OP)
If you get drunk and I rape your ass until you prolapse is that your fault or mine?

>>83034205
why would i get drunk retard?

>>83034205
if i agreed to it then yeah of course it's my fault. i chose to get drunk, and it's on me if i make decisions that i wouldn't normally