Thread 83041893

Can anyone who likes this guy please explain to me why anyone would build an apartment building in New York after he implements rent control?

>>83041893 (OP)
we already have rent control lol. and the problem is not building, it's maintenance. the only thing that his rent policy will do can range from replacing all lower income apartments with luxury apartments, to the most extreme case scenario of buildings just becoming abandoned/quarantined. The bronx fires seem like an even worse case but that wasn't really all buildings. Usually what happens with price fixing in general is that people just can't maintain/manufacture the thing, because it's not just rent that goes into the system. Does Osama want to lower the wages of blue collar workers who do plumbing, electric, ? No? Then those buildings might just become unsustainable unless there's a huge competition for efficiency (there won't be, its NYC, not some new emerging growth town)

>>83041893 (OP)
New York already has rent control you ignorant retard

go toil in the fields, thinking isn't for you.

>>83041947
>>83041966
It's funny how New York already has government intrusion in every aspect of people's lives, and they still think the problem is that they have too much freedom.

>>83041972
The democracy meme usually goes with the idea that "other people" have too much freedom, in this case billionaires and foreign investors. The irony is that when they try to restrict the freedom of successful people, they inadvertently just make it harder for themselves while successful people work around the obstacles or figure out another successful solution that benefits them. Unfortunately you either need dictatorship or a homogenous society or ITS OVER

Rent control was implemented before your parents were born and that didn't stop anyone from building, you stupid YIMBY shill

>>83042023
And everyone still complains about how it's too expensive to live in the city.

>>83042061
The only people complaining are those who are just arriving to the city. And as long as you tell them "uhhh rent control maybe" or whatever bullshit, they will keep wagecucking and living in a closet to keep the economy going. You think there are no people living comfortably in the place where people make the most money in the world? Kek.

>>83042079
>this is the reason
>after the other actual reasons
i'm thinking based. there are too many people that want to live here and the industries that build and maintain housing have been corrupt for a long time. people will wait in lines of 200 to look at one apartment and blame the government or some billionaire, lol

>mfw houston added 10 times as many new housing units last year than new york did
>mfw that's not even per capita

>>83042163
I seriously hope states start seceding. I want leftists to be ruled by foreign socialists, and I want to have economic freedom in Texas or Florida or New Hampshire.

>>83042072
I've seen what 20 million gets you in new york and it's pathetic

>>83042178
Being pathetic is a good thing, and here's why that's a good thing.

>>83042174
There is no more fitting punishment for commies than letting them be ruled by other commies

>>83042186
100%. I want them to have all the leftist policies they desire, but only when they're in a separate country from me, because I don't want my tax dollars paying for their food stamps or government jobs. It's long past time to start breaking America up.

>>83041972
It's funny how New York is the most regulated place in the country and regulation is gommunism and that doesn't stop everyone from wanting to live and do business here

>>83042289
Literally 40% of New York City wasn't born in America. It's full of people who want free stuff. The actual Americans keep moving to Florida and Texas.

>>83041893 (OP)
>why anyone would build an apartment building
is the issue in NYC that there aren't enough apartment buildings?

>>83042289
It's just what anyone who knows how retarded normiecattle are would expect.

>>83042363
>average leftist understanding of supply and demand

>>83042363
The only thing that makes housing affordable is housing being plentiful. Supply and demand you know.

>>83041893 (OP)
they'll just spike the rents before the date that the new rent controls come in
landlords do this every time rent controls get implemented somewhere, amd they have to because all the rates that they pay for the property aren't frozen (since the government will never freeze taxes because that's THEIR money)

the real problem of his is the proposed $30 per hour minimum wage, this'll kill any small businesses and put hundreds of thousands out of work

>>83042378
Not arguing, faggot. Genuinely asking.
>>83042381
Still doesn't answer my question. Do actual entire apartment buildings need to be built? Are there genuinely no vacancies or anything? Don't know shit about this guy or NYC.

>>83042422
That is so fucking insane. I don't know how people don't understand how disastrous these policies are. And what's sick is that you just know that after these policies make everything worse, everyone who voted for them will still blame capitalism for their problems.

>>83042431
If there weren't high demand relative to supply, prices wouldn't be high. You don't need to know anything about the situation other than that people want something and they don't want to pay the current market price to know that more supply is needed. See also >>83042163

>>83041893 (OP)
he's a communist they aren't known for foresight

>>83042431
Well, I don't know about New York specifically, but sometimes you'll have apartment buildings that are totally empty, because the local government makes it so hard to make money that it's not worth the risk of allowing tenants who might not pay on time or could damage the place. But yes, in theory there should be a lot of money to be made with more housing in New York City. There's certainly demand. It's just so difficult to make good on your investment in New York, and the new mayor is going to make it harder.

>>83041893 (OP)
You're expecting too much of economically illiterate socialists if you think they can answer this.

>>83042079
Then why do places with no rent control have such crazy high rents?

>>83042289
What? Literally everyone who lives there wants to leave except 20 year olds with rich daddies who treat the city like a playground

>>83042512
I like how you simp for nepo babies until it's no longer convenient for your argument and then all of a suden nepo babies bad, which is it?

>>83042174
Same here. I'm embarrassed to share a country with retarded Texas and Florida.

>>83042422
>$30 per hour minimum wage,
Idk what year you think it is but 30 bux an hour isn't even decent money anymore . I'm assuming you don't pay for rent/mortgage, car payment. Insurance. Groceries. Gas. Etc etc and are completely out of touch with reality

>>83041893 (OP)
Most of the buildings are empty in New York, the problem is the unwritten code of ethics among landlords in the city to never lower a list price even when locations face years of vacancy. This will make everything so much worse

>>83042381
If it's anything like every other American city then yes, lots and lots of large apartment buildings should be built

>>83042533
How would it make things worse to prevent landlords from kicking out tenants paying $20k/month so they can hold onto vacant buildings for years and years complaining about muh regulations while abusing the tax code to turn whole neighborhoods into ghost towns because a $40k/month tenant will show up any year now, part of rent stabilization includes bans on the kind of behavior that creates massive tracts of unoccupied real estate because landlords are trying to collude to turn the city into a private equity owned dystopia

>>83041966
How does New York rent control work? How does it compare to London council housing? What is American Sadiq going to change?

>>83041893 (OP)
Commies are shit, but so are Goddamn rich cunts.

>>83042477
That's not why, it's because they refuse to adjust their rents down when there's a cyclical change in demand, it HAS to go up and up and up no matter if there's covid or a recession or whatever. If you pass a law that says no bitch it's not going to double just because you're keeping 3/4 of the units off the market, you get to charge X amount for rent, take it or leave it. I think you'll find that landlords will suddenly be a lot more interested in collecting rent rather than "playing the long game" as they like to say

>>83042506
They mostly don't. The ones that do often restrict building via zoning (Seattle) and height restriction (DC). The highest rent places are the ones with long-standing rent control polices (SF, NY).

>>83042516
>everyone who disagrees with me is one person
>and I'm confused about why that person lacks consistent views

>>83042530
The issue is small business. Walmart could pay their workers 30 dollars an hour in nyc but sal the sandwich shop owner who only makes 50k in personal profit a year after paying for goods and property will suffer. But hey if your goal is to empower big business it's a great idea.

But also how do you think sal is going to make up for lost income

>>83041893 (OP)
why aren't any politicians in New York or San Francisco talking about easing up zoning restrictions and subsidizing building permits and just generally lowering the barriers to build housing? here is a picture of a butt

>>83042595
You ever seen the books of a small business?

>>83042561
New York rent control works by being not an actual thing in practice, there's probably no more than 50 rent controlled apartments left in the city at this point. Rent stabilization is probably what you mean but it's a completely different system, this is why if you're in NY like me, these conversations are such a waste of time, people like op who have never been to NY and only care about it to the extent that it's a generic stand-in for "stupid libtard policies" will spout off with a bunch of misinformed nonsense, and so you end up not having a conversation about what's actually true, which could be interesting because there are actual issues that need addressing, but instead having an argument where they yell at you like you're the communist ghost that exists rent free in their mind and you have to decide if you want to try to correct them or just let them scream and yell at ghosts

>>83042555
They can do what they want because they likely have other properties that cover the maintenance of the vacant spaces. Besides that if the rent is only for apartments they'll loophole out by claiming it's office space.

This isn't school and there are liberal and conservative solutions to the problems but none of them will get picked because fuck the plebs

>>83042533
>most of the building's are empty
Is there any actual proof of this or is this more communist conspiracy like clearing 500 pound fat ass Americans are starving to death?

Also an important factor is zoning. How many of this empty buildings are zoned for commerce and couldn't be converted into a apartment even if they wanted to?

>>83042606
Because the purpose of government is to hurt you and make your life worse.

>>83042606
They just passed a bunch of ballot proposals that eased up on zoning restrictions, and tax breaks like J51 and 421a have been around for years, where are you getting your information? Brietbart?

>>83042555
Because it distracts from the real problem of tax and rent control policies that incentivize that behavior.

>>83042606
Wow the face completely killed it
>>83042613
Please explain. I am genuinely curious. I have always wondered why there are still so many poor people in New York when I heard the rent is 5k while at the same time I hear that public housing is not widespread in the USA. Here in London it is 50% of housing.

>>83042577
I think you'll be surprised by how many of them will leave it.

>>83042595
Sal is my cat's name and he would be a great sandwich shop owner

>>83042629
NIMBYs are the scourge of this earth I fucking hate them

>>83042627
Just look at what Louis Rossman went through, businesses and people are going through the same thing - zoned or not. no amount of rent control is going to break up the land cartel in New York

>>83042613
Excuse me, the communist ghost in my mind is rent-stabilized, not rent-free. Get it right.

>>83042653
>Wow the face completely killed it
says you, faggot
>>83042632
okay, I I have no idea and that's why I asked, but maybe it's not good enough because I heard it's still easier to build in New Jersey

>>83042627
NYC collects and publishes a shitload of data on these kinds of questions for anyone who is actually interested in the topic instead of just whining about communists. Anon is being hyperbolic but long term vacancy and collusion are big problems

>>83042645
Bzzzt try again

>>83042653
Every square inch of land is catalogued and classified and has different rules depending on what it was historically used for and what deals were struck over the last 150 years, some buildings are fully owned by state-owned housing called the NYCHA, some buildings are essentially a free for all and can be bought sold traded and modified at will, some buildings have rules about who can buy or sell or rent based on income or other factors, sometimes you're not allowed to have anyone live in the building at all because it's zoned for light industrial or whatever, sometimes it's down to the level of individual apartments instead of buildings, there are layers upon layers of rules and they all serve different interests from tenants rights groups to small landlords to private equity groups and billionaire absentee home owners. You will never understand NYC politics until you understand that there are no rules or principles that apply to every building in the city

>>83042675
>NIMBYs are the scourge of this earth I fucking hate them
these idiots are the reason democracy can't work and kills capitalism by creating broken housing markets and causes the United States to collapse

>>83042675
If you find your dream neighbourhood then you will change your mind on NIMBYs. Why would I want anyone else to move here and potentially fuck things up? It was already my dream, why would I want anything new built here? if I thought there weren't enough schools or whatever I wouldn't have moved here.

>>83042690
It will generally be easier to get a land use change pushed through when you're dealing with 100 people per square mile and not 40,000.

>>83042706
Because it's only NIMBY when I disagree with it, if I agree with it, it's common sense

>>83042706
because the city you like so much fucking depends on it. you ask clown

>>83042695
Never understood the American obsession with zoning laws. it just leads to weird neighbourhoods with zero shops or abandoned buildings

>>83042729
I've lived in many cities all over the world and I tell you the American way of doing zoning makes no fucking sense. it's a complete scam and an ensures that everyone is as fat as possible because you can't walk anywhere

>>83042729
it also means that small business isn't really an option because you're not allowed to sleep in your commercial space you're only option is a home office or something if you're working remote otherwise you're paying two rents. free country my ass. American dream my ass

>>83042706
Fuck your soulless zero-community "dream neighborhood". I'm living in my home neighborhood where I grew up, and where all my family lives. I hate NIMBYs with a burning passion because they want to prevent anything from getting better.
>nooooo we can't have corner stores or bars or coffee shops in the neighborhood because, uhhhh
>WE JUST CAN'T OK???
>you VILL drive your car everywhere you VILL drive it downtown where there is NO PARKING

>>83042729
They don't seem necessary now because people can't see past their direct personal experience. There just aren't a lot of toxic waste incinerators and petroleum refineries getting built in nice bougie neighborhoods, they do all that shit where poor browns live, because past generations of NIMBYs set things up that way, trust me if someone bought the land next to yours and wanted to use it as a helicopter pad you'd change your tune in a hurry and you wouldn't call it NIMBY you'd call it "common sense"

>>83041893 (OP)
You have to realize at some point income inequality is going to lead to serious problems. Mamdani and Thiel are really no different when it comes to this.

>>83042727
>Edge of London historically so quiet it was seen as part of Essex, Kent, Middlesex etc
>Rail lines extended
>High rise apartments go up
>Now it's an overpriced, overcrowded shithole like the rest of the city

>>83042695
>You will never understand NYC politics until you understand that there are no rules or principles that apply to every building in the city
Anyone who doesn't favor getting rid of every one of these rules is scum.

America is so full of stupid arbitrary made of rules that prevent it from growing. Tokyo is 10 times the size of New York and it doesn't have a housing crisis. anyone can get an apartment for any price range that they feel like paying. America is a country that is downright hostile to the working class

>>83042772
You're entitled to your opinion of course. What part of NYC do you live in, and do you rent or own?

>>83042706
My dream neighborhood is a living, breathing community that grows and adapts to the needs and desires of its inhabitants. Fuck your HOA.

>>83042583
In sf the rich people neighborhoods also claim their buildings as historic landmarks which essentially makes it a legal nightmare to build anything taller than 2 stories within a block.

It's so fucking dumb. If SF where allowed to develop naturally, there would be skyscraper from downtown all the way to the mission by now

>>83042766
everything around London is connected you can easily live in any of those little towns outside and then commute into the city. London is an objectively better City than New York. it's too bad its full of British old people instead of girls with pink hair and doc martens

>>83042752
It's almost as if the locals want peace and quiet. If you want to be a bar-hopping hipster then go live downtown.
>>83042760
Have you seen the inequality in Brazil? South Africa? Philipines? It can get a lot worse. And this time there is no Soviet Union to fund a socialist revolution.

>>83042791
I love San Francisco but it's full of these tiny one to two-story buildings with a fucking garage on the bottom floor which are a complete waste of land. the sunset and outer richmond need to be fucking bulldozed and turned into skyscrapers.

>>83042766
>all of the city is a shithole
The NIMBY shows his true face. He literally just hates cities, it's as simple as that. He hates them and wants them to be worse.

>>83042799
Maybe, I've never been to New York but the outer edges have objectively gone downhill.

>>83042780
Tokyo is also much safer than New York. It's infuriating to experience Tokyo because it proves that every problem New York has is fixable, and they intentionally choose not to fix them.

>>83042780
Tokyo has an incredibly well developed transit network and even with that, you can live in "Tokyo" and still be nearly 2 hours from the center of the city, the real solution to the "housing crisis" in NYC and America in general is to fix transportation, the so called YIMBY crowd will complain that it's so hard to get shit built in Soho or Tribeca compared to Valley Stream or Piscataway but it's like it never occurred to anyone to build a high rise complex out in those places and then upgrade the transit network to triple the throughput and double the speeds, which could easily be done with modern rail technology but that's gommunism so it will never happen

>>83042804
Bitch I AM a "local". And I don't want to be a bar hopping hipster, I want places in the neighborhood where people can meet and interact as a fucking community. I want some apartments nearby so my 20something brother and cousins can still live near the family when they move out. Instead they're forced to move across the city because of retarded lead poisoned boomers like you.

>>83042804
New York is the most American city on Earth and that's why everyone wants to live there. even though it's small and fucked and expensive. it's probably the best city on Earth in terms of culture. but it is so completely asshole fucked by American politics that the housing market is unfortunately broken

trust the plan running out of land and having too many poor young men was what led Sparta to become le epic slave empire of feminism we're gonna be eating good sisters

>>83042841
The reason Tokyo has no crime is because of Asian men

>>83042606
1) annoying boomer Karen's hate development after spending their entire youth high on led
2)liberal leadership hate capitalism and refuse to allow anyone but the city build shitty cheap housing for negroes and meth fiends.
3)muh 5 thousand lines of red tape before you bribe me with a stupid amount of money

>>83042811
Zoomers want every city to look like Cyberpunk. Boomers and Millenials just want a quiet, cheap place to live that is the same as their childhood. Fuck the overpriced cafes, fuck the normie bars, fuck the soulless apartments.

>>83042862
Well that and police only investigate crimes when they're 100% likely to get a conviction, so conveniently there's a shitload of things that would count as crimes in certain western countries but they get swept under the rug or someone gets the local yakuza to deal with it instead

>>83042868
zoomers aren't going outside you piece of shit. it's Boomer's ass that are in cities trying to relive the city life that they had before covid and now they can't

zoomers aren't even talking to each other, dating or having sex. they're on TikTok dancing by themselves in their room or they're playing rimworld with the my little pony textures and the sex mods

>>83042695
>storefront vacancy
This is an indication of failed business and not housing

zoomers invented the whole concept of a butt plug collection

>>83042632
Nothing but the actual elimination of zoning will change anything.

>>83042912
>there is no relationship between where people live and the success of places where they buy stuff
Anon you're a fucking retard I'm sorry

>>83042868
I'm genx and I'd be fine with living in cyberpunk, I think I'd like that a lot, but I am under no illusion that this would make my cost of living go down.

What zoomers really want is to blame their problems on the 65 year old homeowner down the block and not the trillionaire oligarch they will never come within a mile of let alone see or interact with in their lifetime. It's far easier for people to blame things on what they can see and touch, rather than unseen forces beyond their field of view, hence why we're seeing upper middle class professionals pitted against poor and working class service industry workers, when the truth is both are getting fucked over by the ultra wealthy. But now that white collar people are getting to see what mass layoffs and long term unemployment will look like, they're starting to get on board with socialism.

>>83042912
no if you look into the prices that they're asking for the storefront properties in Manhattan on YouTube by the YouTube channel of name Lewis Rossman or something you'll see what's happening. The owners don't actually want to rent the units

>>83042706
Peak retardation

The owners are hanging on to the units as speculative assets

>>83042912
The business failed because the landlord evicted them, dumbass. If the market was as free as you people pretend, property owners will always favor a paying tenant over nothing. Even if that means lowering the rent. But they don't have to do that, they can sit on that empty storefront for years and years, does that sound like a free market to you? Or is "Free Market" when people you like get infinite capital appreciation with zero risk or volatility, and "Communism" is when businesses can find a place to run their business by paying rent to a landlord?

>>83042757
Actually this is very true and valid. As much as I'd like a free for all development I don't think anyone would want their neighbor starting and industrial fish/hot sauce factory right next to them

>>83042757
Noise and polution control shouldn't be done through zoning.

>>83042810
Agreed. Plus imagine the view from a 10 story building in the sunset. Though the soil and earth quakes probably Wouldn't be ideal

>>83042784
I own so why would I ever want to be in NYC?

>>83042868
>the same as their childhood
By forcing the world to stay the same, lead-poisoned boomers are doing nothing but making it worse. Car-centric suburbs are an unnatural failed experiment which separate people from their communities and turn them into deranged isolated psychopaths. It's modernist brain rot which benefits special interest groups and destroys society.

Picrel is what traditional housing looks like in organically developed cities with actual communities where people interact like normal human beings. Notice how there are public spaces for people to meet up and have relationships? This is what functioning cities look like when braindead boomers don't force them to be terrible for no discernable reason.

Oh and 2-3 story apartments with comfy cafes/pubs/shops aren't "cyberpunk" you fucking retard

>>83042868
You can't halt progress like that. It's retarded. At a certain point your autistic ass has to accept change. I'm not saying invite a billion immigrants but at least allow your children to build and expand

>>83042868
No really imagine if in people from the 1820s prevented development in NYC, it wouldn't even exist

>>83042992
So neither then, thanks for playing, better luck next time!

>>83042995
Wow section 8 housing with a food court in it and a shitty balcony
I'm pissing and crying that they took this from us, nyoah my god

>>83043017
>section 8 housing
>in ancient rome
Point and laugh at this retard

>>83042923
There isn't. Sorry, I know you've built an entire ego on being correct but that's just false. There's a hundred reasons a business can fail such as being soft on crime that has nothing to do with housing

>>83043022
Google section 8 housing and come back honey bunny
I'd rather be homeless than live like a rat

>>83042924
Just so objectively false

>>83043023
So if everyone lived on the north pole you would expect the success of businesses in america to remain the same because there is NO relationship between housing and retail

>>83042919
I'd explain Long Island City to you but it looks like we're in the "person who has never been to NYC yells at ghosts" phase of the conversation, so feel free to look that one up on your own

>>83042981
your view would be great and then the skyscrapers across yhe street go up too and now you're looking at a man's ass which is i mean whatever cry about it etc

>>83042995
>Car-centric suburbs are an unnatural failed experiment which separate people from their communities and turn them into deranged isolated psychopaths. It's modernist brain rot which benefits special interest groups and destroys society.
>destroys society.
Cute.

>lol a socialist mayor with socialist policies won't change anything we'll continue to have all the good shit we had before as a borderline facist police state without any downsides whatsoever once we become a socialist utopia

So how long does New York City last before facing obvious consequences(assuming the mayor actually enacts socialist policies instead of being a limp dick loser)

Like six months - two years maybe?

>>83042924
Kill yourself.
>captcha: dd2sv

>>83042981
>Though the soil and earth quakes probably Wouldn't be ideal
Yeah everyone knows that earthquake prone cities like Tokyo lack tall buildings

>>83043075
He literally promised to persecute white people. Anybody who isn't a parasite is going to leave soon.

>>83043072
>places where 20 year olds and retirees live have lower fertility rates
Ok and? Are you saying apartments are bad because my 89 year old grandmother isn't having enough kids lately? And this means that a mode of development invented in the modernist cuck era of the 1950s is "traditional" and good for society?

It's genuinely mind boggling how little people think about shit before they post it

>>83043015
Oh no I don't get to be in the 'overpaid for shitty real estate' club

>>83043078
Tu primero.

>>83043102
You also get to be in the "letting New York live in your head rent free" club so you're not as good as real estate as you claim to be

>>83043072
Trailerchads rise up

>>83043091
>we will ensure all properties are properly assessed so the system is more fair
>HE WANTS TO PERSECUTE WHITE PEOPLE!!!!!

>>83043075
There are years of popcorn ahead

>>83043133
No he mentioned targeting whiter apartments specifically blud has an axe to grind against whitey specifically. Should be a total clown show

>you need to have lots of kids so the population grows
>UHHH you want cities to grow alongside their populations???? I don't think so!!!
Make it make sense

>>83043096
>places where 20 year olds and retirees live have lower fertility rates
Anon if you are 20 year old not having kids you have low fertility rates.

> retirees live
US retirees live in mansions.

Commie block cities are demographic death.
ONLY PLACE ON EARTH where high income white people (and any high income people in general) have around 2.0 TFR rates is US conservative suburbia. About 100 millions people.

Every where else demographics are unsustainable. These are demographics "black holes" cities that dont reproduce and only can exist bu sucking from peasants medieval demographics (that is rapidly shrinking).

Everywhere else high income people dont reproduce.

One of my favorite things about living in an American city is there aren't any fucking kids

>>83043118
I laugh plenty at other retarded cities like SF, LA, London, and Berlin.

At some point the solution is just LESS PEOPLE. But these hypersocial psychos are addicted to "number must go up" when it comes to people.
Not until they turn every inch of earth into hyperdense city and people can't make food or enjoy life. They think it's mentally healthy to be unable to walk 10 feet without running into 100 different people. They think that seeing landscape isn't medicine and people don't need a daily dose of nice looking landscape to stay mentally healthy when psychology literally says otherwise.

>>83043253
I love living in a small town with many kids and great schools and an easy public transit commute to a major city downtown. No, I won't tell you where because you'll all shit it up, but I will tell you I live on and island.

>>83043075
NYC is America's largest city so even under communist policy it would still last at least 5 years

>>83043096
The actual fact is the only reason cities exist is because of the industrial revolution. There is no industry American anymore and thus no real need to be packed into a good house like a sardines.

Almost nobody on earth has ever said, "nah I don't want more living space and privacy. Private pool, garden and a golf course? No id rather stare out my widow with a view of a brick wall."

Again, modern cities are basically just play grounds for the rich so they can feel the hustle and bustle of actual working class people. It's like a modern version of Marie Antoinettes fake village only you haven't caught on to the fact that you are a background prop.

>>83042995
Actually no, this is what a traditional house looks like for the vast majority of people across Europe for all time.

Literally the only difference is they had to walk instead of drive

>>83043566
Yeah, the concept of a big city is pretty outdated these days. It used to be a status thing if your chain had a store in time square. Now businesses are pulling out because it's not worth it.

People will still rent doofus

>>83042629
No way man, government acts this way for your protection

>>83042079
Pretty dumb post as expected from an anime poster

>>83043407
i bet you have kids you nasty fuck

>>83043697
what the hell is this absolutely fake chart

>>83043589
That's traditional rural housing. However if you put on your thinking cap and look at the context of the thread, you'll see we're talking about URBAN areas. And yes, "suburbs" are urban.

>>83043891
a suburb is sub urban you turtle shaped cock

>>83043920
That's a marketing term. They're literally just residential areas of cities.

Also I should say not all suburbs are bad, streetcar suburbs are fine. There are absolutely ways to design lower density residential areas that aren't terrible but this is America so we need to do everything the worst way possible every time.

>>83042133
The underinvestment is the result of price controls. If you want to create a shortage of something, price controls are one of the easiest ways to do it.

>>83044008
>worthless parasitic leftist hates people who are more successful than him to such an extent that he can't think five seconds ahead

>>83043697
Okay now look at household size changes. People in 1940 lived with their spouse and kids.

>>83043133
>this retarded brownoid thinks I'm going to ever give him the benefit of the doubt when he openly practices ethnic resentment against me
kill yourself

>>83044008
>he doesn't understand second-order effects of policies