Thread 83044182

What do you think about Russia?

>>83044182 (OP)
Us Americans have more in common with them than we think. They have a pretty interesting history. Shoutout to Ivan the Terrible

>>83044182 (OP)
I hate them and am extremely racist towards them but am attracted to the females of their species

>>83044182 (OP)
Waning superpower. The war in piggerland exposed them as a paper tiger pretty quickly. China is a lot scarier.

>>83044182 (OP)
they gave us communism and saved us from becoming liberal cuckolds like the westoids but they also failed to nuke the usa and attacked ukraine so its a mixed bag

>>83044182 (OP)
Thry still have witch house events, which is pretty nice

>>83044182 (OP)
I live here. Ask me answers

>>83044182 (OP)
Thought they were okay until they went full retard on the ukraine issue.

>>83044399
>Ask me answers
Pokazi siski

>>83044427
It's only OK if you live in a big city. Everywhere outside of Moscow and Saint Petersburg is a festering mess of decayed Soviet infrastructure, incestuous rural drug addicts, and medieval technology villages. Russia has fewer toilets per capita than India. Also everyone is an alcoholic and the government's liquor business incentivizes the government to keep alcoholism rates high.
>>83044399
Why are you alive?

>>83044444
You don't want to see them. Trust me

>>83044470
Why shouldn't I be alive?

>>83044487
Death seems preferable to living in Russia

>>83044506
Sure buddy. If you say so...

>>83044321
Same. They are a country of depressed drunkards who elect all kinds of horrible leaders who end up causing misery in neighboring countries. Almost nothing good has ever come out of that shithole. As the Ukrainians refer to them, they are orcs.
The only good thing about them somehow is that their women are surprisingly beautiful, on average.

>>83044399
Give me good russian music. Taking anything but punk/hardcore stuff ideally

>>83044182 (OP)
I've only had good experience with the handful of Russians I've met irl and online. As for the country itself I hate most countries governments, so saying I hate russia doesn't mean much. Geographically they're pretty cool, I love snow...

>>83044399
Ya toze ebat', che dal'she?

>>83044182 (OP)
They gave us Kino (the band), so it can't be all bad. Overall, seems like a fascinating country.

>>83044581
>Give me good russian music
I can give classical: KINO (Coy), Korol i Shut.

>>83044619
Coy s Nevy!!

>>83044581
Korol i shut
Grazhdanskaya oborona
Krasnaya plesen
Selskiy govnovoz (this guy doing shit ironically but has good vocal)
That's first I can recall

>>83044667
Selskiy govnovoz is a cringe IMHO.

>>83044677
They tries to be funny, but they can't...

>>83044688
>>83044677
I agree but voice is good enough

>>83044713
Well, if that's what you mean, then I agree.

>>83044581
this core might be a little hard, but i think this music is amazing

https://youtu.be/I0KhjV4xdio?si=4ysmKekmTVAevM6M

>>83044749
It's not hard, but yea, it's amazing.

>>83044182 (OP)
Personally I've only met and befriended 1 russian guy and then he turned out to be a pedo so I'm not sure what to think

>>83044581
>Give me good russian music
This is preatty good old Russian rock playlist. Listen it, pendos!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KWF0MgmsUQ&t=3269s

>>83044182 (OP)
A long-suffering people, eternally suffering from pigs in power

>>83044399
Does Russia have tigers?

>>83044882
Yeah we do. Amur tigers

>>83044936
Everyone is already dead, not a single one remains.

>>83044182 (OP)
i have no problems with the russian people, but they really need to do a significantly better job selecting their leaders. fucking centuries of being steamrolled by the worst of their society by now. they only need one generation of decent leadership. just one. and they can't do it.
the country's vast landmass and its near limitless natural resources are wasted on it.

>>83044998
You think it's so simple in a country that has never had democracy, except for the 2000s, but that's a special case.

>>83045023
it doesn't need to be a democracy, china for example has done a good job of finding leaders since the end of ww2. they went from being literally raped & carved up by the japanese, to being the second superpower today.
russia is capable of emulating the gigantic strides china has taken, but they've barely done anything worth a damn, because they keep having retards like brezhnev or kruschev or gorbachev or putin.
russia's leaders have been invariably stunningly stupid and possessed a total lack of vision

>>83045092
Russia and China are both de facto single party democracies (de jure in China's case). Russian people are just uniquely bad at governance. Russia should be carved up with the west being absorbed by the EU and the east absorbed by China and Japan.

>>83045092
Well, that's certainly true, I just meant that democracy could help in finding a good leader.

>>83045120
And here comes the first bullshit, hello!

>>83045137
What is bullshit there? Democracy does not mean Western liberal style democracy. China and Russia both have elections but the democracy is managed by the State. I do not agree with this approach but it is the factual state of affairs for those countries.

>>83044967
That's why there are vids of them attacking domestic animals every winter. Sure bro

>>83045152
The first part is true, but the idea that it needs to be separated is bullshit. And even if it does need to be separated, how do you even imagine that? Exactly, there's no way, so there's no point in even thinking about it.

>>83045167
It's all AI neuroslop.

The Russia of a decade ago seemed interesting. Now they just seem like slaves who don't care that they are.

>>83045181
It needs to be carved up because the Russian people are incapable of governing themselves. They would be better off under Chinese and EU guidance. Personally I think the Cold War should have gone hot as soon as Germany surrendered but it's too late for that now. Instead, I suggest an EU-China-US alliance to invade Russia under the guise of peacekeeping but instead turn it into a perpetual colony for resource extraction.

>>83045199
Care, but can't change anything at this point

>>83044182 (OP)
thats where my parents are from, not me tho

>>83045152
America and Ukraine are defacto ruled by oligarchs as well.

>>83045340
I don't know or care about Ukraine but the US is not ruled by oligarchs even if they have more political power than the average citizen. It also has nothing to do with my point, Russia has had poor governance for hundreds of years. The US is the most powerful country on Earth. Even if you were right, it doesn't matter because the US is not a failed state like Russia is.

>>83045359
The USA destroyed Soviet Union and then built up Russia into a capitalist state which came back to bite them because said state wouldnt just kowtow to them as secondary trading partner but rather sought its own way

We have seen this before with Matthew Perry building Japan into a fascist state for Tojo and Kissinger opening China up to be an economic enemy

>>83045377
The USSR destroyed itself and the US never built Russia into anything. You're ignoring that the Russian people have agency and chose to suck. You can't blame the US for Russia's inability to govern itself.

>>83045382
SMO era Russia, Fascist Japan, Dengist China

These are all belligerent USA style states which got their start through US trade but because you are seeing it from the outside looking in you dont see the similarity

>>83045401
None of that has anything to do with anything. China and Japan are very functional states. Russia is not. Why? Because the Russian people have no idea how to govern and never have. Russia was non-functional before the US even existed.

Fuck off back to /pol with your pro-putin propaganda, filthy scum ye

>>83045409
Russia and China were doing very fine as Socialist states but the US wanted to bring them into western markets for the untapped resources and economic potential- it doesnt work that way. Those two nations became belligerent because they want the same prestige as Brezhnev and Mao era but want to be run by capitalist economics like a western state, hence they cant have it both ways

>>83045382
>the US never built Russia into anything
lol. without lend lease loans (which Americans were very against) then leningrad falls after a month. britain too. (((eisenhower))) made a weapons stock market the day he pushed America into a war in another continent

>>83045431
None of that is relevant. Russia has never been a functional country. Even the Soviet era was shit and the State collapsed under its own weight by the end. Why is China now a functional great power while Russia can't even force project into its own backyard?

>>83044182 (OP)
pros: vast empty spaces. hot women
cons: cold

>>83045448
What does that have to do with building Russia into something? Are you suggesting that the US was puppeteering the soviet union? Get real.

>>83045448
If you read Smedley Butlers war is a racket they used to have entire warehouses of weapons bought and paid for but not used for anything

>>83045453
>Any hope to build a global solidary economic system for the species, which is based on the premise of national chrematistic power structures (states and economy) governed by national interests, is a chimera, as Voltaire, Pareto et al understood a long time ago. In the words of Voltaire: It is evident that a country can only win if another country loses.

>In essence, it would be a system predicated on a binary win-lose logic, incapable of functioning close to the equilibrium of interests of all social subjects and classes involved, and therefore inherently instable and plagued with entropic tendencies.

https://paulcockshott.wordpress.com/2024/04/26/marx-communism-and-the-fateful-species/

The BRICS and its allied nations are as capitalist as Washington DC but the only difference is they arent subservient to its interests so they are seen as belligerent. You are from outside looking on in

>>83045469
without american investments russia stays impoverished like 50s vietnam. or like most of asia at the time

>>83045530
Again, what the fuck are you trying to say? I don't care about BRICS retard. Russia has always been a shit country. Stick to the subject at hand.

>>83045478
no need to read the obvious. both world wars were unpopular in america. kike presidents pushed money gasoline into a fire anyway

>>83045535
My point was about their political structure not their economy. They would obviously have remained poor as shit without American help but our investments didn't change their politics at all.

>>83045543
He's a retarded commie, anon.

>>83044182 (OP)
every day I wish to get out of here. I'm trying to find a girl with American citizenship since it's my only chance, but even this chance is bleak

>>83044182 (OP)
Don't like their government and I hate Moscow, and I have mixed feelings about St. Petersburg. I also don't like their racial minorities like the Chechens and the Central Asians. But overall, I think it's a good country with rich culture, arts, and sciences.

as I learned about their recent history I honestly become sympathetic to them
we funded the Chinese to undermine the USSR, but then the USSR broke up and Russia humilated themselves for us and we did, nothing?
we let them suffer the brunt of shock therapy economics while still giving China (who always hated us btw) our manufactoring
also one of the Bushes directly told Putin that Russia is too big for comfort
this is not to justify their recent actions but to understand why they hate us and why they wont forgive us anytime soon
oh and China?
funding them backfired and now theyre siding with Russia anyways lol

>>83044399
is it really as shitty as people make it out to be? growing up, one of my closest friends was russian and he would talk about visiting his granny in the winter and how nice her soviet apartment was and how everything was so cheap. online, however, all i see are people calling it a shithole with pictures of dilapidated buildings, gopniks and dying soldiers

>>83044182 (OP)
>mfw I fell in love with a Russian and he cucked me with some churka

>>83046218
pls fall in love with me instead

The food, shitty
The culture, it's okay.. not the best people
The women, worse than regular women, and that is saying something, all superficial narcissistic whores who have been spoiled their entire life
This is the india of Europe, maybe worse. India isn't that bad, just massive propaganda spammed. Only reason they get away with so much shit is because they white

>>83044581
>Give me good russian music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFTUkfcTvZM

I'm Russian, and I'm telling you, everything here is really, really bad. Everyone is poor, everything is destroyed, there's war everywhere, and I'm writing this while dying of hunger and cold. But I ask you two things: believe what I've said, and also, never come here.
Thank you.

Hmmm... Varenye.... Very very tasty.....

>>83044581
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ueNY30Cs8Lk&list=RDueNY30Cs8Lk&start_radio=1&pp=ygUJU2lnbWEgYm95oAcB

>>83044182 (OP)
Kill russians, behead russians, roundhouse kick a russian into an izba, defecate into a russian's borscht, run over russians with a t-50 tank, detonate an emp over russia, inject russians with krokodil, tie russians to rockets and aim them at khokholstan

>>83046417
Not quite my tempo, can't get into foreign rap.
>>83044788
Listened to it for s minute, goooood. The paradox cover was a surprise.
>>83044749
This isn't hardcore, still alright.
>>83044629
>>83044619
I'll check these out.

They are funny and usually good posters on /pol/. I imagine them to look like this.

>>83047214
Got my hair cut and look like a chud again

>>83045934
>The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.

orginal2222

>>83044581
>Give me good russian music. Taking anything but punk/hardcore stuff ideally

hello yes i am unilingual american southerner that barely recognizes 50 words of russian but here are russian languag bands i like

ANAIT, grust200, Amelia Frank, the end of sunny days, Ishtar

you may see a theme if you search these bands. and to think for domestic music i prefer metalcore/post-hardcore/related genres from ten years ago. also wow i couldn't post any of the cyrillic names, maybe my virtual keyboard ain't allowed or something

>>83044182 (OP)
As a >Russian, these threads or any sort of discussion on English-oriented platforms always prove to me that you people wail in your ignorance of others, which has been your downfall and will continue to be so. There have been a few insightful replies, but the lack of them is shocking.

fucking shithole country that loves occupying other countries. people are ugly as hell too and alcoholics.
average iq is probably 75 with how they act. and dont come whining calling me a hater i lived among russians and they are the most disgusting subhumans you will ever meet. people love glazing these terrorists for some reason.

>>83046218
faggot calling others churka after realizing its life isnt worth living