Thread 83054606

The future will be conservative because progressives/leftists refuse to have children; progressives are self selecting out of existence kek. Maybe there is hope feminism goes away after all.

>>83054606 (OP)
i feel like "progressives" in this case are just women, politics doesn't actually decide if you'll have kids or not if you're a man because they're not the ones choosing to get pregnant, so this might as well be labeled "progressive women don't have children because they are hags in eternal daycare"

>>83054606 (OP)
The problem with this line of reasoning is that politics are not heritable. I know a lot of people who are left leaning but were raised in conservative environments, and the inverse happens all the time as well.

>>83054729
politics are pretty heritable actually.

but there are a lot of cheating foids out there

>>83054719
>politics doesn't actually decide if you'll have kids
they literally do. conservatism focuses on the family

>>83054729
"conservative" and "progressive" are also very vague terms
>>83054752
men do not "choose" to have children, if a woman wants to have children, she can find a man to have children with, a man can only convince a woman to choose to have children

>>83054740
They are simply not heritable. Parents can influence their kids but they can't do it well enough for this trend to play out in this simplistic way.

>>83054768
Go look up the data, you are speaking out of your ass and very uneducated on the topic.

>>83054764
>men do not "choose" to have children,
they don't choose but ideology helps them out have a higher chance of success. most progressive women i meet irl aren't thinking about children, conservative women think about it. progressive men have no chance kek. GOOD btw

>>83054606 (OP)
There is no future the way conservatives manage. Checkmate idiot.

>>83054795
wrong!

just won a debate, libSHITS btfo again

>>83054606 (OP)
Conservatives have kids who move out to cities where they become progressive.

>>83054778
there's nothing stopping people with different political beliefs from having children together, we are not two different species
the biggest factor for determining reproductive success for men is if they have mental issues anyway, it's why autists never have kids, yet there are still many autists born
i still don't really understand what "conservative" and "progressive" mean, politics is not as black and white as you think it is
do these effect people's view on economic issues?

>>83054830
only foids

males get even further right

>>83054830
>>83054795
all is good as long as progressives don't have children. the only "progressives" that might have children are latinos, but they are socially conservative most of the time because catholics (based)

>>83054606 (OP)
The future will be a short-lived conservative period of going back to the historical mean following a middling collapse, another great extinction event, or a decidedly non-conservative transcendence of the powers of the Earth beyond man's current form. Cheering for the former two out of prejudice that will live shorter than a cosmic blip is not my cup of tea.

>>83054606 (OP)
In the future communist world order, at the second half of the 21. century, children will be banned (and people be sterile) and new people will be cloned in factories.

Libs CLEARLY don't understand how 4,000 years of ancient Egyptian dynasties made Egyptians genetically determined to build pyramids and worship Horus, which we see them doing all the time today.

>>83054833
>there's nothing stopping people with different political beliefs from having children together, we are not two different species
there isn't, but it doesn't dispute the fact that conservative women will prefer to have kids over progressive women, conservative men have better odds, which again, is good.
>politics is not as black and white as you think it is
>do these effect people's view on economic issues?
this is from an american context. it's probably harder to define from a european context. i don't want progressives to breed btw

That's gonna be a bleak, aggressive future

>>83054880
>this is from an american context
no wonder you talk about it like it's niggerball then
i wouldnt even agree with conservative men having better odds, because men lean quite conservative and women lean quite liberal
so actually men have a terrible chance either way, but you're just some ragebaiting chatbot so you wouldn't be able to conceive of something outside your prompt

>>83054911
>no wonder you talk about it like it's niggerball then
even in america beliefs vary. I know conservative/progressive is too simplistic, but I don't think liberal/marxist still prefer having kids over nazi/palecon/neocon. If you describe yourself as right-wing, you PROBABLY prefer having kids. it's as simple as that. so it's left vs right (+ left wingers that consider themselves socially right)
>so actually men have a terrible chance either way
No, they don't. As long as the woman describes herself as a conservative, the men have better odds. There are stats showing this how conservatives will have a positive view of children compared to left leaning people.

>>83054946
well that's slightly more agreeable
i just think women shouldn't have a monopoly on reproduction, but shouldn't be as beholden to men for financial support either, instead of men controlling the money and women controlling the having kids thing, which i guess technically makes me socially right wing
anyway, it doesn't matter if a woman is more likely to have kids if conservative, most women are liberal, and most men are conservative
therefore there are simply less women than men who want to have children

>>83054606 (OP)
Got tired of shilling on /pol/?

>>83054606 (OP)
Why is the present so much more progressive than the past then?

>>83054729
>>83054768
Politics are in fact fairly heritable. The fact that there are outliers doesn't change the fact that in general people vote the way their biological parents did.

Being left or right leaning, despite studies, cannot be logically inherited because otherwise leftists would have died out long ago. It's not like people in previous centuries didn't practice birth control.
Progressive politics are generally fancied among youth, when the desire for exploration and adventure is high; with age sense of danger and caution prevail causing people to avoid the new and become conservicucks.
It is just happens that we live in a culture that is heavily dominated by youth culture so youngsters policies seem more important than they ever were.
But in practice you know, nothing ever happens

>>83055183
>Progressive politics are generally fancied among youth, when the desire for exploration and adventure is high
So they became puritans to protect the heckin brown pipos and fags?

>>83055183
>with age sense of danger and caution prevail causing people to avoid the new and become conservicucks.
Actually that's not quite how it works, right leaning people just tend to start voting and caring about politics later in life. Voting is a habit that people tend to keep once they start. More progressive people start earlier.

>>83055277
>More progressive people start earlier.
my opinion on this is that progressives intentionally destroyed the ability for progressive types to relate to normal human things:

White culture is racist, the western canon is...racist. having kids is, you guessed it, RACIST. etc etc so if you're a progressive you have almost nothing but progressive politics to base your identity around.

>>83054606 (OP)
What will conservatism mean in the future? Today's conservatives would've been considered decadent by conservatives of the past. If you think women in the 50s dressed modestly then you're already a progressive
This is why conservatives are npcs, they can't understand the historical progression they're a part of

>>83055340
>What will conservatism mean in the future?
Let's just say the future looks very radically conservative.

>>83055340
it's not that conservatives don't understand this, they clearly do.

It's that you can't just swing society back to sanity like that even if it would be better for them. boomers screwed up the planet I think we all can agree

>>83055359
>look how much this inbred cult rapes their women
this won't work in an industrialized society

>>83055340
>>83055183
You are a social conservative to me as long as you think the family unit matters, and it's preferable for a man to lead. Very lmao progressive are not breeding. Good, they are my ideological enemies to an extent. We are going to outbreed you LMAO

ITT retards under 25 think its the end of XYZ for the 10 millionth time.

>>83054606 (OP)
This is probably true for Israel where the difference in birthrate is much higher, and the ultra-orthodox are incredibly conservative, but in America we see the public's politics changes massively depending on their circumstances and who was in power already. With a recession under Trump any Democrat that would be run would win in a landslide. The median voter's ideas are filled with contradictory incomprehensible nonsense.

>>83054606 (OP)
>he thinks culture is passed over by mixing DNA with someone
it's so silly people using darwinism to explain memetic spread

>>83055725
>With a recession under Trump any Democra
Ok but they shift because of the economy, not because of social values/beliefs. Do I believe a patriarchal household is better? Yes