Thread 83075899

Why are incels vilified for having basic human desires like wanting to be close to a woman, being in a relationship and sex? Normalfags talk about pretty much nothing else, they make songs about and whole stories, but the moment a guy who can't get a gf says he wishes he could have one it is treated like a pedohile wanting to work in a kindergarten.

Wtf are you talking about? The "male loneliness crisis" horseshit is incredibly mainstream to talk about.

>>83076150
Why did you sage the thread? It is only talked about because it is so big that they can't ignore it anymore and they only talk how it is the fault of said men and that they should just stfu and be good work bees and then die alone.

>>83076167
>they only talk how it is the fault of said men and that they should just stfu and be good work bees and then die alone
Give a single example of someone saying this.

sex is not a basic human desire, it's just you being a coomer

>>83075899 (OP)
Because they are low value and expendable. no one ever calls women entitled no matter what they ask for

>>83075899 (OP)
Halo effect works in reverse too; if you're an incel, hikikomori, NEET, you must be evil too thinks society.

>t. an incel.

>>83075899 (OP)
The funniest thing about this comic is that the reader is meant to sympathize with its main character but also inadvertently illustrates the flaw with his behavior.
He is alone, and laments his solitude, but does nothing to resolve this and continues to suffer as a direct result of his inaction.
He says, "I wish someone would love me," but then actively chooses not to make himself known to others. He does not go out and find someone with whom to connect. He does not make himself vulnerable to his peers. He refuses to directly address the problem he acknowledges. He just wastes the rest of his comic doing jack shit.

Perfect incel analogy, indeed.

>>83075899 (OP)
We live in a gynocracy o algo asi

>>83076150
not really, it is only ever brought up when they want to pin the blame on us, a nonstop torrent of kafkaesque "critical theory" and pseudopsychology to cover up the fact they simply hate us for being a little unattractive or failing to conform well enough to society and were never going to give us a chance to participate

>>83076150
>mainstream to talk about.
it's a propoganda thing to try to do damage control and stop men from leading a conversation about themselves. The speech is heavily censored.

>>83076180
>sex is not a basic human desire
I love it when asexuals who don't know they're asexual say highly abnormal shit like "horniness doesn't exist actually" totally unaware of just how strange and unrelatable their lived experience truly is lmao

>>83076171
They don't say it that way but everyone with a single brain cell can read between the lines.
>>83076180
>normalfags have sex every single day, talk about it, write about it and seek it out all the time if they can't have it
>but an incel who never had sex says he wants to have sex in a relationship means HE is the coomer
This is what I am talking about.
>>83076197
>>83076206
So in other words society just wants said men to die or to be worker beeks until they die.

>>83076213
It is a edit how stupid are normalfags lol.

>>83076180
There are countless studies showing the benefits of having regular sex, and the flipside of the numerous downsides of not having sex for prolonged periods of time. sex is unfortunately a desire and a damn near necessity for mental and physical well being.

>>83076258
Don't care. The image OP chose perfectly encapsulates the root of his issue, regardless of the original intent behind its creation.

>>83076224
What do you think needs to be done? Genuinely curious.
Almost all self-proclaimed "lonely men" are normalfags, even on /r9k/, but I do easily admit there are some incels, probably like 1-2/1000 young men who have been thoroughly rejected by obese hideous single mothers. What are you supposed to do to fix that?
>>83076226
What ideas are "censored"? Do you not understand basically every guy has an easy time finding sex and girlfriends, so they have no reason to agree to any part of blackpill ideology?
>>83076248
So give an example of someone implying it.

>>83076274
You made up a straw man inside your own head and build an entire argument around it. I think reddit is more of a home for you. So many incels try to find someone but women simply ignore them.

>>83076282
>So give an example of someone implying it.
I know you are not even arguing in good faith since you saged the thread in the first place.

>>83076248
>So in other words society just wants said men to die or to be worker beeks until they die.
Yes. suffer in silence and never complain

>>83076248
>So in other words society just wants said men to die or to be worker beeks until they die.
Correct, and it's only going to get worse, right now only about 7% of the world die virgins, soon it could easily be 99%, same as how >99% of ants live and die femcels who risk life and limb to keep a society running which they will never benefit anything from, nor recieve any compensation for keeping afloat, if you're not born a queen, or one of her drones, then you are a worker, and you will die a worker, and workers do not have sex, they work, and they can never no matter how hard they work become a queen or drone, to that drone, because of natural laws she was completely powerless to understand or intuit, she will die alone, to no ones particular surprise or upset, in this, I am more alike to her than different.

>>83076303
This is like saying men actually really, really hate women because Andrew Tate has a lot of underdeveloped stans. I mean actual mainstream articles, stories, etc., not just random anonymous retards on tiktok.

>>83076292
>You made up a straw man inside your own head
I outlined exactly what the image depicts and explained the flaw in its logic. I don't think you fully understand what a strawman argument even is.

>>83076282
>What ideas are "censored"?
Go google it yourself, I'm tired.
>Do you not understand basically every guy has an easy time finding sex and girlfriends
That's news to me, last I checked lots of guys had trouble finding sex and an even harder time finding love.
>so they have no reason to agree to any part of blackpill ideology?
I'm not a blackpiller, but having a girlfriend is not antithetical to believing the blackpill concepts are what govern sexual success.

>>83076670
The overwhelming majority of young men aren't virgins. Where are all the incels if they're supposedly so common? /r9k/ has a couple but still hardly any.

>>83076258
That also looks like an edit.

>>83076303
incels are mostly passive men. violent men are the ones who get pussy

>>83076729
>The overwhelming majority of young men aren't virgins.
Perhaps they're just not admitting to it. Perhaps the sample is wrong. Perhaps incel is assumed of men who speak out as a tool to make them not express their views.
>Where are all the incels if they're supposedly so common?
Volunteering that information is not prudent for men, it's only used as an angle of attack on them when it's brought up at all. You're pretending like you don't have a bias when you collect the information, but you very clearly have an axe to grind and are leading the questions. No one's going to answer you honestly when it's obvious you're not looking to hear the truth. You're actually looking to assert it.

>>83075899 (OP)
Because you complain about it
Lots of lonely fucks out there, man
They either do something to change it or they stay quiet

You guys just shout into the void till another incel responds "Hey, me too!"

>>83076888
>all surveys show almost all men are fucking
>even on /r9k/, almost all men are fucking (or can)
>it's all wrong, I swear
yawn

>>83076180
Yes It is you fucking retard

>>83076897
>shout into the void
better than being silent

>>83076897
Sounds like we should be even more vocal about it, then.

>>83077027
>>83077043
be silent and work on yourself
in due time, they'll come round

>>83077060
No, I've been working on myself for over a decade and I'm still just as single as I was before. I'm going to be loud and vocal in my complaining.

>>83077060
>in due time, they'll come round
lol lmao

>>83077202
>>83077271
lost cause baka (shaking my head)

>>83075899 (OP)
It instantly makes women feel like they are going to be raped and we live in a matriarchy. Women control all the power and have decided that the only time its appropriate for a person to seek human companionship is if its queer in some way. Either its interracial, or a furry thing. Doesn't matter so long as it doesn't make them feel personally threatened.

>>83077275
You have no argument, all you can do is be butthurt and deny reality.

because you're horrible annoying people and no one wants to fuck you because you're whiny faggots and have nothing interesting to talk about you're just coomers

>>83077313
This is just a rehash of
>reee why won't you just shut up so we can pretend you don't exist
hatred against unattractive men.

>>83077313
>have nothing interesting to talk about
neither do women and they have no problems

>>83077335
You have to understand when a woman talks about a man being interesting she means him being a drug dealer or other criminal lowlife.

>>83077202
how many girls do you talk to and what exactly happens?

>>83077330
>>reee why won't you just shut up so we can pretend you don't exist
why don't you? You shouldn't be allowed to exist anyway.

>>83077340
no i mean being anything other than
>durr football
or maybe the "Nerd" who doesnt liek le sportsball but instead likes anime!!! woah so interesting!!!
or sometimes there are guys who read or watch movies and are a little mor einteresting but they can't hold a conversation for shit and interacting with them becomes really stale after a week or a month maybe. the fact is most men are just bad at relationships. they depend on women to plan dates and to carry conersations because they're used to mommy doing everything for her special boy. because that's what the patriarchy is it rewards men for doing the bare minimum when women have to fight for our lives

>>83077353
>why don't you?
Because it upsets you and you're a bad person and you deserve to be upset.
>You shouldn't be allowed to exist anyway.
Without people like us - ordinary working tradesmen - you wouldn't have modern society.

>>83077371
Yeah you mean criminal lowlifes.

>>83077371
Most men don't care about dates and would rather just chill at home. It's not that they're dumping the responsibility on you. It's that they'd rather just chill at home lmao. Dates are 100% for the women. Men don't get much out of it.

>>83077450
Women don't get anything out of a date. The average man would much prefer to stay home, cook something nice and have a comfy meal at home with his girl so he can show off his cooking and relax at home without the stress of going out to an event.

>>83077060
>work on yourself
Aka taken advantage by serial "monogamist" whore animals that have a transactional and soulless ideation of romance

>>83077513
>go to random moids house
no thank yeeoou

>>83076213
Yeah this checks out, that's exactly it. I was this way when I was younger. It's normal to be afraid, but if you don't make yourself vulnerable and experiment with life, you never get out of it. You just have to... try... and try again...

>>83077566
>Men/Men
woah... muluhmuh....

>>83076213

>>83077750
>make yourself vulnerable
Hey buddy? Guess which column the female values the most and which one the male prefers (and gets abandoned as a result)? The answer may shock you.

>>83077786
I literally don't get what your point is, and what gender you are and what you mean by this.

>>83077786
If you would please refer to the attached image.

>>83077770
Fags have notoriously harmonious relationships, but also dramatically fewer relationships. Most fags never marry or even date. They usually just fuck each other a lot. But when they DO marry, however rare that occasion may be, they're stuck together for life.
My theory is that this is the result of men valuing concise communication.

>>83077770
the theory remains valid

>>83075899 (OP)
You have a hand, you pathetic little cretin. You don't deserve love just by virtue of existing. If you're horny, rub one out. You don't need to trap a woman in a shitty relationship to deal with your issues.

>>83077869
Sure but lesbian marriage is two square wheels

>>83075899 (OP)
>Why are incels vilified for having basic human desires like wanting to be close to a woman, being in a relationship and sex?
Because normies hate ugly and autist men. We're subhuman to them and considered unworthy of basic human affection, let alone sex.