Thread 83077281

Why do alcoholics have no self control?

>>83077281 (OP)
I used alcohol to function normally in social situations at work. didn't really help most everyone I worked with was also an alcoholic.

>>83077281 (OP)
When I drink I fucking drink man. When I don't drink I don't even want alcohol but you get a sip of it in me and it's just next stop blackout city for me. I think it's because unlike every other drug on the planet alcohol never feels "there" you know? Like I do anything else I get "there" and I'm happy. Alcohol is like, let's do another to get there. And another doesn't get me there. So I do another and another and another and it's the next day and I'm naked on my bedroom floor.

>>83077281 (OP)
Why would someone with good self control become an alcoholic?

Are you actually asking or just asking rhetorically?
They have found that alcoholism runs in families. It has something to do with how the brain processes it, higher genetic alcohol tolerances, and propensity for addictive behavior. Combine that with ease of availability and you have an alcoholic.
I've always been one ever since I had my first sip. Nothing feels as good to me as getting drunk. Maybe sex looking into each others eyes but they are pretty close

>>83077332

Because it's not about self control but coping.

>>83077341
>Nothing feels as good to me as getting drunk.
Getting drunk feels good but hangovers feel so bad that it balances out

>>83077281 (OP)
I think that's more of a general poor impulse control problem rather than just an alcoholic problem maybe. Alcohol just makes it worse because of the addiction aspect. I've barely gone a day without drinking since I turned 21 and I'm 24 now. I always had poor impulse control and I think any substance is hard for me to resist once I get onto it. Weed was easy and still could be easy for me to quit though because I've had more negative experiences while on it I only still smoke it because alcohol mixes with it well and makes me feel great.

>>83077312
> I think it's because unlike every other drug on the planet alcohol never feels "there" you know?
Exactly. That's most of the time why I would even get blackout anymore. It's not fun but it's hard to reach that perfect point and maintain it. You always think another one will reach it then it's 20 shots later and it's not enough or you are puking. It's a hard balance but I think I've been maintaining it somewhat because I try not to get blackout drunk anymore but I still do drink every day.

>>83077281 (OP)
because i don't care

>>83077281 (OP)
nuh uh i have great self control

>>83077369
Not once you have a strong tolerance. I can drink a whole bottle of rum or vodka and be completely fine

>>83077281 (OP)
It has to do specifically with the interaction of ethanol and the brain. It amplifies GABA_A receptors, which has a suppressive effect on neurons responsible for calm and focus. Second, it inhibits GABAergic interneurons that normally keep dopamine in check, so reward signals surge and behavior gets impulsive (hence it makes you stupid and wild). Finally, it inhibits NMDA receptors which dulls memory and awareness, hence blackouts.

>>83077392
Your drinking has become very problematic. You get drunk every night and post all over r9k. We're all friends here and we're very worried about you. Have you thought about rehab at all? We just want what's best for you and yes this IS an intervention.

>>83077436
I'M SOBER RIGHT NOW!!!! I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM !! ! ! ! !

>>83077463
>I'M SOBER RIGHT NOW

>>83077468
yes there may be bottles of alcohol on my dresser but NO i am not using them, your honor.

>>83077281 (OP)
>Why do they have no self control
That's why they became alcoholics. When they're not addicted, it's called being a drunk (or a lush). Maybe I don't understand the question.

>>83077463
STOP LYING TO US! We know you're drunk! You reek of alcohol. I swear to god if someone lit a match right now you would combust! And those angry outbursts...the screaming....we're all so worried it's going to turn to violence. There are some young people on this board, what kind of role model are you being? They're terrified right now!

>>83077477
ok ok, now do you think you can stand with your hands at your side and follow the tip of this pen with your eyes and only your eyes? don't move your head.

>>83077482
I AM NOT !! I JUST SPRAY ALCOHOL ON ME TO SNIFF OK IT'S PERFECTLY NOR,MAL
I;'M NOT MAD!! I'M JUST.VERY LOUD!!!!!
I'M A GREAT ROLE MODEL FUCk YOU!! !! ! ! !!
>>83077492
goh fuck,.

>>83077312
This along with the fact that I'm just not very in tune with my body.

It feels really good to get drunk. It doesn't feel very good to come down. So what ends up happening for me is I'll start drinking then I drink some more and every time I stop getting more drunk it no longer feels good so I have to drink more to keep going up.

the other issue is not being in tune with myself. Like I feel like I never reach the point where I can go "yup its time to stop right now or i'm not going to have fun tomorrow" Like the biggest sign for me to stop drinking these days is when the room starts to spin. Only then do i know I drank too much but the room only starts to spin when I'm already coming down so its already too late. The only way I can realistically control myself is by hard capping the amount I drink but it by the time i've already got 4-5 shots in me i'm drunk enough to go "aaah whats one more drink" and then I lose count.

>>83077517
mhmmm interesting, ok, now I want you to imagine a straight line infront of you. Now put your right foot directly in-front of your left foot on the line so your heel is touching the tip of your left foot, and I want you to make nine heel-to-toe steps forward and then use your leading foot to make a small series of steps to turn around and take nine heel-to-toe steps back while you count the steps out loud. think you can do that?

>>83077517
Ma'am please calm down. You're slurring your words so hard right now. Can you even see straight? How many fingers am I holding up? Let's all just cool our jets and not make a scene. In retrospect having this intervention in a public space was a bad idea. Now, let's get you home. No no, you're definitely not good to drive. No wait oh god! No! Neptune dear god you're doing 120 in a school zone! WEEEWOOO WEEEE WWOOOO oh no the coppers what the fuck what do we do? I'm holding right now, I got priors! Ah shit if we're doing this we're doing this! You pigs won't take me alive!

>>83077545
mm.h.hmm ygeah Bokay Sure
>>83077549
HIT THE FUCKING GAS I GOT A WARRANT

>>83077572
>HIT THE FUCKING GAS I GOT A WARRANT
WHADDYA MEAN? YOU'RE IN THE DRIVERS SEAT! I've got the gat you got the gas now punch it sister!

>>83077572
alright ma'am, put your hands behind your back. you're too intoxicated to be driving.

Whenever I buy beer I only buy 1 or two individual cans, that way I can never get carried away. If I buy a 12 pack then it's anybody's guess how many I'll have.

>>83077725
I heard wrestling interviews back in the day
Disco inferno would say he would have a max of 2 beers, and 2 somas
I try to keep to a 2 beer limit

>Why do alcoholics have no self control?
They/we are aware of it. We just don't care. Alcohol is our escape from this miserable fucking existence.
I also use it to cope with the potential use of fags to suck me off, but it never happens. I'll get drunk and can't get a meet. They're as bad as foids.
I also get the munchies, and end up getting takeout that I can't afford at this awful prices. Just getting some burgers from McD's is a over a tenner. FFS.

>>83077281 (OP)
Wow, what a pepe

All alcoholic needs denied Klonopin and that is final for this.

Klonning drunken moronic addicts for prison