Thread 83081938

how the fuck are you a virgin past the age of 21?

>>83081938 (OP)
I lost my virginity at 20 by out-lifting my autism and being 6'2. I had some interest from girls in hs and jr high but was too autistic and anxious to understand them.

>>83081954
you speak like every self-diagnosed narcissistic faggot ever who is not even diagnosed with autism. so fuck you faggot

>>83081938 (OP)
By being a social asspie. But I did end up loosing it on my 25th birthday. A friends wife and her friend got drunk and started playing 100 questions about sex with me and shit just kind of snowballed from there as they found out I had zero experience whatsoever. Soni guess it evolved into a pervert game of chicken where the two of them would see who was more willing to take one of my firsts

>>83081938 (OP)
My body isn't manly and that gives women the ick.

>>83081974
why would you do that to your friend? do you not feel any empathy at all

>>83081938 (OP)
>virgin past the age of 21
Just don't have sex.

>>83081989
He said he's a social ass pie so there's your answer

>>83081968
I was handed a note that said I like you by a girl and didn't realize what it meant until 6 years later.

>>83081938 (OP)
by age 22 90% of people have lost their virginity
youre absolutely right

>>83081989
He was a virgin til he was 25 give him some slack. You don't know how painful that is

>>83081938 (OP)
Foids don't like me because I'm too kind and gentlemanly. I want to bake brownies and cuddle with a girl but they just want abusechad to hit and rape them while they're in their 20s. I have to wait for leftovers.

>>83082043
I wonder what other people do to get laid.

>>83082065
Here's the secret:
don't be an autist.

>>83082059
>them while they're in their 20s. I have to wait for leftovers.
Join the future right and groyper right where we remove women's rights.

>>83081938 (OP)
I'm fat and can't get it up.

>>83082080
>groyper right
I'm white so I wouldn't fit in.

>>83082075
But I'm n0t autistic

>>83082102
Then...there's still a chance...

>>83081938 (OP)
That's when I started escortceling by necessity.
I hoped it would help me get civilian cunny someday, or at least give me good sexual gratification. I got neither.
Just more anxiety and being incapable of cumming with PIV, or getting super hard. Just another failure in life.

>>83082093
>I'm white so I wouldn't fit in.
it doesn't matter. only people willingly to do something about the mess.

>>83082039
ohh woooooooooow !! interesting !! and how does that make you autistic

>>83081938 (OP)
bad life choices in my case, i had plenty of chances to fuck girls but i passed them up and now i'm an incel. it could've been different.

>>83081938 (OP)
i'm ugly and weird. it's not that deep

I'm 22 and I didn't get laid yet because I genuinely hate women

>>83082182
It's not my fault that I'm more attractive than I am autistic. It's your fault for being a manlet.

i refuse to waste my first time on some fling with a random brown whore, is it that hard to understand too?

>>83082228
Dating is unbelievably tiresome and annoying. I'm so happy I'm married and no longer have to care or try to date

>>83082218
you're not autistic. you're not diagnosed with autism. you're larping as autistic even though you show no symptoms of autism whatsoever. you are a disgusting normalfag

i was lucky. girls would tell me they didn't know me i walked up to them. i also had a cockblocker friend, coworker.

i was bagging at a grocery store girls would flirt with me.

yeah, i don't know. you are a fucking loser if you can't get laid before 21-22

>>83081938 (OP)
By either being really friggin unattractive like to the point where no girl has ever showed interest in me and is not interested in talking to me beyond a few words or sentences.
Or just being unable to really communicate and initiate contact.

>>83082241
>stolen valor
Autism is not a badge of honor anon. You are not special for not being able to emulate normal people. Personally I mostly do a good job although I was called a gay robot by my coworkers at a different job and they would laugh at me for not liking hugging people or eating my dinner out of a desk drawer.

>>83081938 (OP)
I turned down sex from a girl because I didn't have a condom (and secretly because I didn't want to give my first time to a slut).

>>83082336
What interests me is your effort; how much effort would you say you have put in? PUA, cold approaching 1000 girls, texting, calling, working out, going to a bar and just working game, using your friends to wingman for you, having topics to talk about (history, trending media, music, other hobbies), being provocative, just changing your strategies/approach overall.

I found a girl that liked me and then we e-dated for 6 months and then she broke up with me a few weeks before we planned on visiting.
You can all laugh at me, I don't mind.

>>83082377
Protip: that was a man in pakistan

>>83082364
>history, trending media, music, other hobbies
This will not help you with women. They literally know nothing about anything. This is only a detriment. What women like to talk about is gossip. The easiest way to do this is to date a coworker or classmate and then feed them information about other people they know. Women love this.

>>83081938 (OP)
I was homeschooled and was a jehovahs witness for a little while. It fucked me up a bit because I feel an odd disconnect from the average person. I went to college but mainly focused on studying. Now I have a shitty job and just work and go home. My social skills are absolutely terrible and I have not tried to improve them. I acknowledge that all of this is my fault and I am content with dying alone. My genes are not worth being passed down anyhow.

>>83082241
how can you tell from a couple of replies

>>83082387
>This will not help you with women.
I don't talk to complete retards, not ones that don't at least have a surface level understanding of topics/ideas.
>Gossip
yeah that too

>>83082416
Most people are beneath you if you were homeschooled. All public schools are are infoctrination facilities that teach you nothing of any importance and condition you to be an npc. Imagine being a slave to mcdonalds, paying tribute at gunpoint to mcdonalds and then sending your children to be raised by mcdonalds who already enslaves you and owns everything including your home and land since you alsp have to pay rent to mcdonalds for the home you already paid for. Oh and all of this via mcdonalds money which mcdonalds prints as much of as they want when they want. You can only be paid in mcdonalds money.

>>83081938 (OP)
social anxiety, fear of intimacy, and honestly because beating my dick works just fine. I've probably had multiple chances to lose it but I just didnt
t. 26

>>83081954
> had some interest from girls in hs and jr high
Fuck offff Chad

>>83082444
The vast majority of women know absolutely nothing about anything in any subject. You can't talk to women about philosophy, history, music, technology, because they literally know nothing.

>>83082466
Same. Social anxiety sucks

>>83082469
All of those are female coded. Do you really talk to anyone about "philosophy" you feminine cuck?

>>83081938 (OP)
I became a mute at 17 and stopped even trying to talk to classmates because I thought it was over. I basically checked out and just played vidya and smoked weed at home all day after school

>>83082469
>You can't talk to women about philosophy, history, music, technology, because they literally know nothing
Ok, but to me, they need to have surface level understanding of things. Maybe you see surface level = nothing. I can't talk to them if they don't have minimal knowledge of certain topics or else I want to kill myself midway through our convo. How else am I going to make references to things if they have nothing in their brain? You can't. I guess media literacy is what I meant, not really deep philosophical knowledge.

>>83082482
Everything breaks down to philosophy and what a person believes fundementally.

>>83082499
They don't though. That is the problem. And they have no curiosity for it either.

>>83081989
My friend really didn't care. He said it would probably help me be less of a spastic person around women. Which I guess was true. I don't drop my spaghetti as often but I do still go on tangents without thinking if anyone actually cares about tanks, conspiracy theories, or things I thought were cool about history. Although something about the harry Potter books makes women really interested i learned

>>83082342
>>stolen valor
i didn't call it that. i'm just stating a fact that you're not autistic. you're not diagnosed with autism and you're not "emulating" normal people. you're simply not autistic.
if i had to call it something, i'd call it pretending to be disabled, so very different from stolen valor. either way go fuck yourself and it's disgusting

>>83081938 (OP)
I don't like interacting with people and I fill the void with food, movies, jacking off, exercise and other activities.

>>83082424
because he's not diagnosed and was never even suspected to have autism. his "proof" that he has autism is ignoring a girl that probably wasn't attractive enough for him and "not understanding" she meant that she likes him when she said she likes him.

>>83082526
The harry potter books follow the campbellian heros journey perfectly. They're a solid mythological retelling with multiple good allegories. But a woman wouldn't be able to tell you WHY they like them or HOW they are good.

>>83081938 (OP)
29 year old kissless handholdless hugless friendless disabled virgin robot here. I don't know. I'm just not normal. I know other people with my disability. They have sex. I don't. I'm visiting a psychotherapist and I stopped my antidepressants and now I'm thinking about suicide more than ever.

Nigger tells to go buy pants.

>>83082547
Lowercase opionions are always disregarded. You have to go out of your way to type without using your muscle memory to hit shift or to actively turn off autocapitalize if you are phone posting. The affectation is repugnant.

>Obese since childhood
>Autistic
>Lived in semi-rural suburbs far away from my school and college
>Didn't get license or own vehicle until my late twenties
>Still live with parents in thirties
>Helicopter mom who unintentionally made me scared of the world
>Afraid to talk to women in almost any capacity

How could I NOT be a virgin

>>83082554
No thoughts of suicide? The moment I stop "doom scrolling", be it music, programming, reading, thinking, the thoughts come.

>>83082524
>That is the problem. And they have no curiosity for it either.
They do kek. At least the ones worth talking to. Maybe it's a location problem for you. I live in a major city where there are a lot of pseuds walking around.

>>83082581
you're pretending to have a disability and you want to tell me how to type?

>>83082592
Work out, eat cleanly, study how to socialize, fill out a fafsa and get a stem degree, get a job and move out. There are characters like data and sai who you should have found and learned you have the power to copy normal people from when you were like 12. It's too late for you now though

>>83082592
Bro money doesn't matter at all. I've got a master's degree and have been working fine for almost a decade now. Good job a bit above average for Germany and 150k saved in Euros. But I'm still handholdless virgin. Maybe because I never leave my apartment. But also when I do I feel like I have an aura that makes people afraid

There is something in our brains I think. There are ugly fat poor people out there with happy lives relationship love affection

Its like a missing arm. Money won't buy you an arm. It can make it a bit easier.

I now discontinuated Escitalopram and now I'm a bit manic again. I'm getting a hair transplant, removing my body hair forever, and nipple piercings. I hope / think it will make me normal and somehow get friends and a partner. But I also know it will not help because I tried things in the past and it never helped.

>>83082625
>i'm not the one pretending to be autistic
>it's just that autistic people are failing to pretend to be normal
it's so tiring

>>83082625
That's normies advice. I did all of that and it didn't help me. Only one year away from being a wizard.

The only thing that made me feel good in the last two weeks was a women doctor seeing me wearing a string and pounding my ass with dildos.

I'm always pretending when I'm outside. Always. When I'm in the city I feel like I'm an alien. Sometimes I get afraid and I speedwalk back to my car

>>83082560
you dont know what kind headspace he was in at the time.
Plus, theres plenty of retarded psychologists and some who even believe autism isnt real or that your mental issues dont matter and you should be grateful youre not a starving child in Africa. I dont think their word should matter unless youre looking for gibs

>>83082650
How do I know when to switch my psychotherapist? I'm planning to ask on reddit...

>>83081938 (OP)
28 here. it's really easy actually just follow these steps:
>be male (most important)
>be short
>be autistic
>have social anxiety
>become recluse
>sit back and watch the years fly by
With this patent pending method, you can remain a virgin indefinitely!

>>83081938 (OP)
It's very easy. I looked into it and as a 28 year old virgin I'm part of 10% of the population

>>83082638
Just give up and die. It's not even hard to pretend to be normal although it is tiring. Copy comedians, copy movie characters, copy peers. Monkey see monkey do. Look in a mirror and practice your facial expressions and then embody the character you want, it's acting.

>>83081938 (OP)
I'm short and autistic. It never even began for me.

>>83082660
keep switching until they start saying what you want to hear. Its all just "their opinion" so it doesnt amtter

>>83082565
Bro I'm not trying to get into the complexity of the books or anything. All I'm saying is after my friends wife and her friend popped my cherry those damn books helped me nerd out and get laid on my own.

>>83082660
Imagine having parents that would send you to a shrink so they can just give up on you. Liberal parents love to destroy their own children.

>>83082699
Idk what I want to hear. Maybe I'm not fixable. He already told me there's no magic button to press that fixes me.

>>83082716
I'm almost 29 and live by myself. I took the antidepressants for 10 years since 2016 without any doctor. I only went to a psychiatrist twice and he diagnose major depression and but me on SSRIs. After that I always got a description by calling my family doctor

This summer I went to a (Jewish) psychotherapist myself

>>83082718
You should go to church not a shrink. The biblical stories are nothing more than cognitive behavioral therepy with the purpose of reframing life events positively and accepting them. This is combined with social support and networking. A shrink is just there to take your money and make you worse in perpetuity.

>>83082701
You were normal all along, just late. Or do you think you were not normal?

>>83082726
Nothing will be funnier to me than the fact that some people take SSRIs willingly.

>>83082718
>He already told me there's no magic button to press that fixes me
omg my psych said the same thing except magic wand instead of a button
and then she was like
>I can only show you the way but you must do the work
and I was like.... bitch... DUH! Thats exactly why Im here

these people are just retarded or egomaniacs. Thats why muh diagnosis means nothing.

>>83082650
you can't be real. lmao. it's really as simple as, do you have autism or do you not? he does not.
>>83082680
yes, good job telling someone with a disorder to die because he can't be a normalfag like yourself. you've essentially convinced yourself that autism is both not real and that you somehow have it

>>83082753
I think it got me a job. I was super demotivated. That summer I was lifting a lot. I got big. Then my disability worsened and I fell into a hole. After starting on SSRIs I started studying and got a job where I still work in pharma as a software monkey. I just never stopped taking them.

3 weeks without. Only thing changed is that I use my dildos more often and I want to get my nipples pierced. And I got my legs shaved and will laser myself. Amazing. Now I'm normal I'm totally sure

>>83082726
I don't like organized religion. In my church two guys went to prison. One raped his son. Baptists.

>>83082726
Ssris don't work retard. Exercise, don't eat goyslop, and go socialize by volenteering at a church. Get sun. Imagine being born and getting a bunch of chemicals injected into you, being put into a box, being carried around in a box, traveling in a box, living in a box, eating all your food from a box, then staring at a box with a moving window all day and then wondering why you are mentally ill. Monkee societies in africa or south america don't even have words for depression

>>83082753
I threw them out when I realized that my negative feelings are completely natural and justified

>>83082776
Ok victim, everything just happens to you and you have zero responsibility or autonomy. A-are you a woman?

this is basically you, pretending to be disabled:
>>83082680
>i was never diagnosed with autism (so i don't have it), but trust me i have it because i say so, and i'm so good at it that i am a normalfag

>>83082776
>he does not
says you based on... couple of 4chan posts. Im asking how you came to this conclusion?
The fact alone that hes on r9k is very telling.

>>83082780
>super demotivated
That's not a problem, thoughever. You're not supposed to be always motivated, you just need to understand discipline and forethought. I don't know what destroyed your sexual development or why you are a buffoon, maybe you were born this way, but SSRIs are objectively and unironically an intervention that can only cause harm.

>>83082798
>i lied about being disabled despite never being diagnosed with anything and being a normalfag and now i'm going to make up things in my mind to "own" the other person
i never called myself a victim. just not willing to eat up your horseshit that pretends to have a disability which you're not diagnosed with and not anything like, and are willing to basically change the definition of that to fit that of a normalfag, just so that you'd have it

>>83082766
My psychotherapist doesn't even show me the way. I'm in the tenth session or so and every time I have to bring a topic and talk and talk and talk. Sometimes he asks questions. When I stop talking this retard sometimes just stares.

Maybe I will switch. But I also don't know what I would do as a psychotherapist with a patient like me.

>>83082781
>get sun
No, I will not get sun. I take supplements to due my disability which also covers my vitamin d. Bright lights in Germany in winter missing.

And sun won't heal my disability. I have to wear compression garments. And watch my diet religiously. Literally fucking bread has too much fat for me to eat more than a slice

>>83082798
>autonomy
People have very little autonomy. You think a sub 60 iq tard starts a family because he had autonomy? He's normal and working by a script. In some people that script is broken I think

> Im asking how you came to this conclusion?
and i explained it since it's very simple. he does not have autism, he is not diagnosed with autism, he attempts to change the definition of whats autistic to fit a normalfag and his best example of having autism is him rejecting a girl. he is objectively not autistic and not diagnosed with autism. so it's not an opinion, it's a fact.

>>83082818
I am unvaxxed and would never go to a shrink, ever.

>>83082850
you are a normalfag just stfu and eat shit dickhead

>>83082829
I didn't claim that they work perfectly or that they don't make things worse. I'm a 29 year old incel and took them for a decade. But I would be probably in the same or similar situation without them. Probably worse as I wouldn't have a good education and a relatively well paid job

When I was in kindergarten I masturbated with my little sister. I drew images for girls I liked in elementary school. After 4th grade I stopped developing.

>>83082593
I've thought about suicide but not out of desperation; it's more of a "how would I do it?" or "What would happen if I weren't here?".
I still interact with relatives and I go to my parents' house every other weekend to help around and spend time with them, but I feel completely detached to other people that aren't my close ones and interacting with them is too taxing for me, to the point it feels like walking through mud that goes up to my knees in the middle of a rainy day when I do it.
I don't hate life itself or my life in specific -- I'm just fed up with people around me and I don't care about them except for some few ones. Sex is not motivation enough for me to put up with them and I'm not that desperate to pay for it.
Sorry for the autism.

>>83082847
>But I also don't know what I would do as a psychotherapist with a patient like me
well thats why he went to school to learn how to deal with these people
>I'm in the tenth session or so
are you trolling? You shouldve dropped out after a couple

>>83082145
>it doesn't matter. only people willingly to do something about the mess.
What are they doing?

>>83082880
But so they learn how to handle 29 year old man virgins with zero friends no social life and are also disabled with impacts on what they can do?

Drop out? I thought 10 sessions is early. In Germany 12 sessions is a "short treatment" and afterwards you can do long term. Maybe I will drop out after 10.

>>83081938 (OP)
>have shit genes and go bald at 17
>I'm talking late norwood before I was even 18
>that fucked up my mental health
>had a breakdown and depression phase
>"recovered" from it (not really)
>gyno
>ugly
I know I could probably get some 5/10 if I tried (or maybe not given current dating scene)
but I'm just too broken
I turned 28 like a month ago and I accepted the fact I will become wizzard

>>83082877
You'll just be reincarnated. The ride never ends and there is no escape.

>>83082885
>What are they doing?
Stoking the flames for a future conflict. Things do happen.

>>83082877
Similar for me though I would like sex and a partner I think.

I think when it comes to suicide how I would do it and where and it feels good because I could stop having to deal with my disability trying to live etc. Basically I'm making money and I'm spending it on either nothing or on bullshit mostly related to my disability.

I can't even travel properly because I have to eat very specific stuff and so I have to carry shit with me.

I think I will try for one more year and kill me when I'm 30.

Now I'm becoming 29 in September. I will get my hair lasered, my nipples pierced, my foreskin removed, my balls redone (disability)... Hair transplant. I hope it will make me normal but I doubt it. When I was younger I was in the gym and it did not help

Are you a virgin?

>>83082903
Is there a place where virgins / wizards group up? Not talking about young virgins.

>>83082953
*in December I'm becoming 29

>>83082909
>Stoking the flames for a future conflict. Things do happen.
So posting on Twitter? Got it. There will be no war in America. It has the fattest, most pacified population in the world.

>>83081938 (OP)
I studied in my college's premiere STEM major. The one for the field that is synonymous with my school since it was created at my school and which its program was top ranked in nationally until the last ~6 months of my undergrad. At that elite level, you don't have time to date. And if you were stupid enough to try, you would either fail out from not studying enough (and they would have your replacement ready to go before you turn in your exam) or paint a massive target on your back for everyone else to gang up on to remove competition. Guess which one I did?

I hate the sensation of human touch. I hate people. I hate God.

>>83082953
I guess it works for me because I'm not bound to a chair or with some other crippling disease and the things I occupy myself with are pretty fulfilling; learning how to cook, how to paint, gardening, learning a language and others motivate me to keep going in a very organic way and I'm not hung up on blaming others or the universe for my shortcomings. Life is what it is and I make the best out of my lot.
I'm not good-looking nor well-spoken, I'm not tall, I have a shitty sense of fashion and I have a short temper, but it could be worse and I'm happy in my lane with how things go for me. I'm not going to judge you about your choices or you perspective on life, but I hope things turn out well for you. Also, inhaling carbon monoxide is the least painful way to go.
>Are you a virgin?
Yeah. I know what I like and I have no issues with sexual stuff, but I would rather do many other things rather than getting intimate with a woman or a man in every sense of the word. Even making a friend feels like an herculean task for me.

>>83083006
>It has the fattest, most pacified population in the world.
I mean the republican party is currently infighting over tucker/nick interview drama. The future of the GOP is being determined

>>83081938 (OP)
FUCK YOU BITCH
foids I need help... quick...

>>83083138
>gang up on to remove competition. Guess which one I did?
Computer Science. Uni idk. Maybe Illinois? kek

>>83083209
The catholspic church is responsible for the immigration crisis 100x more than hias btw.

>>83083138
>gang up on to remove competition
I honestly feel really bad for turd-worlders. Imagine living in a society this hostile.

>>83082364
>having topics to talk about (history
Nothing dries a woman's pussy faster than history, idiot.

>>83083260
>Nothing dries a woman's pussy faster than history, idiot.
Depends who you are talking to. I guess I meant media literacy. You aren't going to go deep with a person that looks uninterested kek

>>83082901
you can tell if the therapist is retarded on your first or second sitting

>But so they learn how to handle 29 year old man virgins with zero friends no social life and are also disabled with impacts on what they can do?
I mean... they should

>>83083173
Ok. I'm not super crippled on paper too bad. Like rolling around in a wheelchair with no arms and legs. I have to wear compression garments and watch my diet religiously. Even If I was healthy I'd probably be still a virgin desu. Or the years of nutrient deficiency fucked my brain.

I'm tall but I wouldn't mind being short. I can't go Trans even if I wanted to. Because I'm too tall.

Normal people say they like the beach all day and traveling with only they clothes on their bodies. I can't do that. I don't want to either, but maybe I am just conditioned.

>>83083231
>A Jew deflecting the blame onto Christians of any kind.
Wow. Color me surprised.

>>83083231
>The catholspic church is responsible for the immigration crisis 100x more than hias btw.
It doesn't matter as much as the conflict it's creating. His target is also mainly Israel/American Zionists

>>83083173
BTW do you like your birthday? I like my parents but I hate my birthday. I'm planning on staying in my apartment and not going to my parents like I did in the past. I always end up crying later in my old room.

>>83081938 (OP)
your post sounds a lot like self deprecation.

>>83083286
I have low emotional intelligence and I'm afraid of making people feel bad. No idea if he is a retard. Maybe I should ask him.

Or I write up my situation on reddit and ask people there.

My psychotherapist tells me to get new pants. Because I told him I recently was in a shop and was afraid.

>>83081938 (OP)
i didn't get to have good experiences dealing with girls, basically. they were pretty negative experiences, actually.

>>83083401
Did they initiate? In school I was never approached. I never approached except once via Facebook. After school when I went to university it was the same. I work from home now.

>>83083401
Majority of my life women just ignore me. The rest is either bare minimum politeness or active hostility

>>83083241
This was first world USA in the 5 years before the culture wars went septic. All the shit people gripe about right now
>hyper-sensitivity
>microaggressions
>cancelling
and more, was already the case back then in those circles. Hell, where do you think it blew in from?

>Did they initiate?
that depends on what you consider to initiate. but traditionally speaking (actually talking to the person you're interested in) that girl didn't initiate, she just sat beside me and expected me to do something.
but idk who or what to blame for my current predicament with the exception of being treated like shit everyday at school.

>>83083469
l second that

can the simple reason for a lot of male virginity just be attributed to the fact they aren't trying enough or don't approach enough women?

it's kind of crazy though, no one tella you
>if you don't initiate you'll die a lonely virgin

>>83081938 (OP)
I don't know... how aren't you?!
>t. 6'4, not obese, not hideously ugly, probably autistic

>>83083618
Try that nowadays and see how much longer you have a career for.

>>83083639
>either risk humiliation (and in some cases, legal repercussions) by approaching women or face the shame of being a male virgin if you don't

>>83083666
I must nut

>>83083666
The latter isn't even that common once you get past high school, or the first 2 years afterwards in the workforce or college or whatever. The former could drop on you at any time.

>>83083294
christcucks are jews too. you worship a jewish god.

>>83083632
What is the best place for us virgins to link up? I'm 29 and also tall. Socially disabled. And physically.

>>83083728
Your local FBI field office has meetups on demand, I hear.

>>83083727
Holy shit stfu. I literally dislike coloreds for replacing us euros. But I'm not raging about in on fucking /r9k/.

>>83083738
I'm in Germany