Thread 16668433

What can 2 standard deviation IQs (130+) do that 1 standard deviations (115-129) cant?

>>16668433 (OP)
Your question makes the false presumption that IQ measures something real

>>16668433 (OP)
Understand beneath the jargon.

Compare these two wikipedia articles:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2,6-Dichlorobenzonitrile&oldid=1248640211
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Trifluralin&oldid=1290047998
Both on herbicides, it's a fair comparison.

One cites everything in massive quotes from government sources, including the boilerplate, the horrible verbiage, including on shit that's a total nothingburger, and making sure you know it's from the Bla-bla-ville State of Bla University Department of Cum 1972. One summarises sources (sometimes the same sort of government twaddle) and spits out just the raw facts in a few words each, omitting the generic facts that apply to every single chemical ever.
One looks at "medical use" for a fucking herbicide, because the author doesn't care that it's another unrelated field he's an amatuer at.

>>16668433 (OP)
>What can 2 standard deviation IQs (130+) do that 1 standard deviations (115-129) cant?
Not believe the TV "experts" when they come on one day and say that human genitalia are a social construct or that the poles will be melted by 2013.

>>16668433 (OP)
Be Mensa members.

>>16668440
Very low IQ take.
>Trifluralin can be used as ointment to treat Leishmaniasis welts on the skin.
>Research into expanding's trifluralin's medical use is stymied by its low water solubility and easy sublimation.
>Trifluralin also has anti-malarial properties and accumulates in parasite-infected erythrocytes
>Treatment of Toxoplasma gondii and cryptosporidiosis is effective
>Liposome-administered trifluralin has been used to treat leishmania in dogs successfully
How does this not deserve a medical use section, retard?

>>16668433 (OP)
They can avoid posting on anime boards

What can 3-4 std niggas (145-160) do that 130-145 niggas can’t?

>>16668433 (OP)
Get more questions correct on an IQ test

>>16668433 (OP)
It's a statistic made up of other statistics, so we can't deterministically say. (pls don't grill me on terminology. you know what i mean)
The answer is that someone with 130iq is more likely to be either more efficient at a random intellectual task, or is more likely to have a higher average efficiency over some randomly selected intellectual tasks.
by intellectual i just mean tasks that are more demanding of how you use your brain than the rest of your body.

>>16668668
retain their virginity

>>16668433 (OP)
translating knowledge from the 145 IQs. 120-ish IQs fail at understanding proper statistics but they can use it. that's why so many of them usually going to sociology, psychology, medicine etc... and publish all of those shitty p-value crap papers.

>>16668433 (OP)
think recursively via meta-narratives. they can insert themselves into a different cognitive role and explore how this alternate being cogitates. for example, Alice will call Bob a faggot. Alice will then imagine how Bob might react, such as Bob saying he's not a faggot because Charles is his model friend whom he's not attracted to. Alice will be juggling her own cognition, Bob's counter-cognition and Bob's influence through Charles (recursion). midwits are simply incapable of this, which is why they miss the forest for the trees and get hung up on the minutiae of irrelevant details. midwits are also incapable of playing with melodic sonance within language itself. this can come in the form of iambic pentameter, assonance, alliteration, homonyms, homophones, or more. playing with the rhythm of language while communicating indicates to others that recursive style of thinking (not just what you say, but how you say it). note that this isn't de facto poetry.

>>16668959
>Alice will then imagine how Bob might react, such as Bob saying he's not a faggot because Charles is his model friend whom he's not attracted to. Alice will be juggling her own cognition, Bob's counter-cognition and Bob's influence through Charles (recursion).
Weird. I can intuit this kind of thing pretty well as a person with 100iq sperg, but I suck at a bunch of other things.
You're assuming someone with a higher IQ will necessarily be better at a specific task, which isn't true.

>>16668961
i gave a simple example so you could follow. glad to see it worked. to complexify it, it's about role-playing and role-playing well. not in accordance with a script, but dynamically.

>>16668975
Saved to my cats in disguise folder.

>>16669026
>>16668975
>gif of white bloodcell chasing bacteria
>alice didnt have breakfast

>random cat experiment footage(?)
>saved to my cats in disguise folder
Wtf am I seeing here. Are these posts supposed to rile up schizos or something?

>>16669028
The white bloodcell with the tail just looks like a cat chasing ghost mice around lol, I don't know. Pic unrelated, she's a space cat, not a disguised cat.

>>16668433 (OP)
They can program computers, for example.

>>16668959
>>16668951
You’re the midwit you’re talking about.

If you weren’t you’d know that an 120 IQ person can easily do these things lmao

>>16669035
i'm 119 and i cant do anything i'm like disabled :(

>>16668433 (OP)
Not a great deal, I think.
120-125ish is kind of a cut-off point where the (usually) faster cognitive speed hits the cap of attaining basic competency at most tasks very quickly, and you're unlikely to be capped by a lack of intellectual ability in most fields. Any differences in outcome or achievement beyond this point is likely due to factors other than IQ, such as drive and ambition, available resources, social ability/connections.

>>16668950
>130-145iq can’t retain their virginity
Fucking finally… I’m saved…

>>16669035
>If you weren’t you’d know that an 120 IQ person can easily do these things lmao
how would I know because I was never an 120 IQ midwit? I can only see that they don't understand many thing that are "easy" for me. sound like you really know what an 120 IQ midwit be like.
cope more. at your 120 IQ, you don't even know what part you don't understand. the hard part of statistics and probability theories are not for midwits.

>>16669098
You’re not 130-145

>>16669505
>Can’t into theory of mind
>Thinks he’s high IQ

>>16668433 (OP)
Believe even harder in solipsism, obviously. Have you looked at Terence Tao? He literally emits "beep boop, Mark Zuckerberg is a faulty prototype, please excuse this oversight beep boop"

>>16669798
>theory of mind
>pseudoscience bullshit
cope more, midwit retards.

>>16669796
Unfortunately you’re right, I’m a 150+ incel

>>16668433 (OP)
Equal 258

>>16668803
You've changed my worldview, and I need to go re-evaluate some life decisions now.

>>16668975
If I have low red blood cell count, how does this affect me, your wholesome lovable Anon?

>>16668624
there are higher densities where information can be packed more tightly per unit volume. Like upper layers of reality.

From my experience the biggest SD leap in raw cognitive prowess and general individuality (aesthetics) is from 115IQ guys to 130IQ.

>>16670951
Based on what? How do you know their IQs?

>>16668434
Redditor detected.

>>16669028
It's actually all makes sense when you spend too much time here. The breakfast post was a reference to the screengrab where sub-100 iq peoples abilities were described, with them not being able to process hypothetical conditionals, i.e. "How would you have felt yesterday evening if you didn't have breakfast in the morning?".
Tldr lurk moar

Midwits are like chatgpt, they can give you correct answers, but they dont understand anything behind the answers. They can't invent anything new, they cant make any connections in their acquired knowledge and figure out something new. They can only dogmatically regurgitate what they've been taught.

>>16668440
>wikipedia
>article
>author
ngmi

>>16668433 (OP)
Save time wasted on nonsense, so you can focos in what matters. Western AI is getting nerfed with woke trash, while China is free to build something really amazing.

>>16668959
this and also synthesizing knowledge across domains, formalizing observations and insights into unique theories, meta-cognition, understanding and use of symbolism

>>16668621
Do you really need such a high IQ to be immune from sophistry?

Read the title of this reddit post. If you had to reread at all, sorry you're a brainlet.

>>16668434
The test measures one's ability to perform on IQ tests, obviously. Your position is they give no usable information at all, and people who win Nobel prizes just happen to tend to score somewhere relatively far to the right, while people who grow up without books and adequate nutrition just happen to tend to score relatively far to the left? That's just a coincidence?

>>16668433 (OP)
IQ is a meme

>>16675088
woke was a literal weapon a continuence of a project begun long ago and successively funded by foreign regimes and traitors within

>>16676365
>people that grow up with inadequate nutrition and no books
You mean Africans right? kek
I think I'll listen to someone else on correlation and causality on this one here.

>>16668951
Correct. The high-IQs are the engineers who can understand and utilize the knowledge of the geniuses. The 120-IQs (ie high midwits) operate the machinery, the midwits are drones and skilled laborers, and the low-IQs are the peasantry.

>>16676365
>The test measures one's ability to perform on IQ tests
So... does this mean that you could train a literal chimpanzee to perform well on IQ tests?
Just like you said, it doesn't measure actual intelligence, but how well you perform on IQ tests. You can train for these tests and then score higher than average, but your actual intelligence wouldn't have changed just by training for these specific tests.

People who are more educated might have seen those tests (or some of the questions) before, and would score artificially higher than someone who don't have previous access to them. So is it really reliable as a general test of intelligence?

>>16678763
The only reliable measure of intelligence is the degree to which you do whatever the fuck you want.

>>16668433 (OP)
Synthesizing new knowledge rather than just repeating and refining previously existing knowledge.

>>16679109
>synthesizes
>SYNTHESIZES
I have determined you are gay.

Hold my nuts

>>16668433 (OP)
understand conditional counterfactuals

150 IQ laborer reporting in

You could never convince me to do anything else, as a grug I can day dream all day. I have my own thoughts. That is whar matters. If I used my brain for a job, I would be robbing myself of my thoughts.

>>16679532
How do you avoid ruminating over how terrible everything is?

>>16679117
you are gayer

>>16676365
>one's ability to perform on IQ tests, obviously.
How do you know that's a real ability?
>and people who win Nobel prizes just happen to tend to score somewhere relatively far to the right
What's your evidence?
>people who grow up without books and adequate nutrition just happen to tend to score relatively far to the left?
Maybe they're mad that you're wasting their time by asking them to do some stupid test?

>>16680025
>didn't synthezise

>>16676365
Smart people score better on IQ tests because intelligence makes you better at everything but they don’t measure intelligence
Pure logic tests and engineering are a far better measure of intelligence, IQ tests even contain a vocabulary section ffs

>is a pint more similar to a dodeeble or a dweebie?
It’s always with obscure british "words" that aren’t even in any dictionary too

>>16679880
He just explained that

>>16680574
I've tried day dreaming while doing manual labor and I always end up in a rumination doom loop. I was asking him how he avoids that.

>>16668434
Your IQ is lower than 90.
KYS

>>16681627
Predictable IQtard chimpout

>>16681628
You're objectively a retard if you assume there's zero correlation between IQ and general intelligence.
Again, KYS.

>>16668433 (OP)
They can go on /pol/ without screeching like beta soi boys.

>>16681630
Dumb chimp thinks using words like "objectively" makes him more authoritative!

>>16681639
You're also a relativist subhuman?
Another reason to end it.
Do it now!

>>16681647
I love when your impotence causes you to seethe while being unable to refute anything I say rationally. Go ahead, embarrass yourself further.

>>16681660
Not that anon but you should learn to accept defeat a little more gracefully fren

>>16683320
What defeat? You should learn to post while having a brain failure, my fren

>>16668440
>that childhood bio
kek

>>16683815
>like a heat seeking missile to the early life section

>>16668433 (OP)
>What can 2 standard deviation IQs (130+) do
Protect their virginity and manually guide a lunar lander to surface without electronic assistance.

>>16668433 (OP)
Go sicko mode (t. 135 IQ)

>>16685598
Bathtub HRT is not a science!

I have a 130 IQ and I make a lot of money...

>>16668433 (OP)
Fold cubes in their head

>>16687084
D.
Rotate cube $90^{\circ}$ for easier visualization.
Horizontal dotted line must be "below" the circle with the diagonal line.
Solid cross must be "left" of circle with diagonal line.
t. 163
Though even a 120 should be able to do this.

>>16668433 (OP)
i have 130+ iq and i accidentally bumbled myself into a career despite no traditional work experience or college. that's definitely the IQ pulling the weight, right

>>16679532
unfortunate that you channel your potential this way.

>>16676086
Yes and? That sentence isn't even hard to understand at all. I'm a foreigner and I got it right.
Germans and Hungarians just have an embedded morphological analyser designed for their languages with rich morphology and complex word compounding and character encoding.

Piggy backing off this, if I have about a 130 verbal IQ and 120 non-verbal IQ (seems to be consistent across various online tests) will I be able to be a practicing competent chemist? I find the discipline fun and interesting but kind of struggle with calculus and raven tests and stuff. I'm good at visualizing stuff in my mind though.

>>16690501
>will I be able to be a practicing competent chemist?
Yes.
>calculus
>in chemistry
Lol.

recognize that 2-sigma is the smallest IQ gap that has measurable differences, and those differences are rather obvious to spot

>>16687084
You can solve this by elimination while treating the cube as a graph.

2 standard deviations is quite a large gap. Scientists, advanced engineers, surgeons, etc. 3 SDs is like the difference between a human and a monkey.

>>16687084
Or D??? Actually, actually most definitely D lol

>>16687084
>>16689480
>>16690785
Its E. You guys are sub 115 IQ.

>>16690771
Even in those fields the average is not 2 SDs.

>>16689488

>will I be able to be a practising competent chemist?

OBVIOUSLY.

people act like an iq of 115 is NPC barely conscious


1SD means you are noticeably above average

120IQ is smarter than most people on earth, you will not struggle with pretty much any cognitive task.


130IQ is very smart
most online discourse surrounding IQ is essentially what I like to call "conservative mysticism"
I know one girl with a verbal IQ of 80 (dyslexia) but a memory IQ of 160+

she struggles with chemistry, but was probably one of the most advanced math students in my province (canada)

>>16668433 (OP)
They post on different subreddits

>>16668433 (OP)
my IQ is 145+ rarely get to brag bc it makes me a dick instantly


Its possible that I feel a desire to have my intelligence recognized/validated, because I chose not to pursue academic achievement, an environment+peer group where intelligence would be more valued

I am a bit insecure about my level of education


I have also just never fit in anywhere, except for 2 other very high IQ people I know from early teens.


when I was younger my parents were pressured often to have me moved to a gate program (never went)
I think I took the wisc-IV around this time

I think at the extremes, you tend to be very advanced much earlier relative to every else (deviations from norm)


I had a very advanced vocabulary and articulated like a little adult around pre k.

I did alot of self directed study for a primary school student.


it about DEVIATING relative to other people.

quite frankly, I have a constant sense of being surrounded by idiots.

though I realize this is irrational, not really useful attitude.

I think, actually, alot of times people are not stupid, just misinformed. that, or maintaining rational integrity is not important to most people


I dont know that there is something I could do that a 120IQ COULDNT do
>>16689488

I am a highschool drop out, though. Asperger. chain smoker.

neet, near homeless.

I am an artist, its all I really care to do, but I feel the stuff I want to make and express isnt really valued/doesnt have a market
I spend alot of time in solitude.

I took Mensa Norway like a year ago and got 109, just took it again today and got 125. Not sure what to make of this

>>16691543
Do you get the sense that most people seem just barely sentient?

>>16680207
Vocabulary is highly correlated with brain bigness even though there is a luck factor with it obviously, higher intelligence people both seek out more complex text and retain more of what they encounter. Obviously two people of the same actual intelligence and one was an avid reader and the other never did, it would scew, but in aggregate it's a reasonable metric.

>>16691573
Mnemonics are not an IQ trait.

>>16691555

somewhat, though, I think having aspergers affects this impression.

I cannot believe how many people just eat up fallacious reasoning .

that 160iq memory girl I mentioned, really hated studying spinoza in her philosophy class, she just found the assignment required her to think in a way that felt unintuitive for her.
but I LOVED spinoza, my own writing in highschool happen to match his work closesly when I discovered him later. spooky.

I found his approach to agree with my brain. I appreciate of Schopenhauer, he expresses angst I feel into words nicely.

I HATE. HATE HATE HATE HATE nietzche

nietzche is for idiots. if you like him, I am convinced you are a lower IQ person. Not compelling, I realize, it is my own shortcoming.

dostoevsky is a cry baby faggot.

his writing is unreadable.

she would watch alot of political streamer debates, I noticed her fail to pick up on fallacious arguments quite often.

I know for a fact a psychiatrist administered her IQ test, it's all certified.

so theres no question, she is very very bright.

so, I am hesitant to write it off as people being too stupid to catch tricks, it's more like ignorance.

so called popular intellectuals are EGREGIOUS abusers of appeals to emotion.

I notice this alot with men who are drawn to intellectualism because they want identify with "men=logical"


they are basically lacking insight and mistake Intellectualizing their own neurosis as actually THINKING

though, you see this everywhere in academia


I am endlessly saddened by the unwillingness to examine. even with creative work like drawing/painting, the amount of students I try to socialize with who have shit taste/make shit work.

just bc they dont think about what they look at and create.


dont even get me started with the state of psychology, the amount of damage being done is maddening.


but I LOVE spinoza, I found his approach to agree with my brain.


I better stop my tism finger trap, now

>>16691507
This lol. I did some tests irl and my range was from 115 to 132, basically 1 SD above the mean.

When I got 115 I’d read comments from people online claiming they were 130+ and just laugh, because they were clearly dumber than me in the things they said and the lack of logic in their statements.

I kept getting tweets from people dunking on midwits (110-129 IQs) as if they were sure they are at least 130. Its so funny.

They have no idea the 115 “midwit” they make fun of is actually smarter than them.

>>16691543
Online tests dont count. I doubt it. You don’t sound 3 SDs above the mean.

>>16691555
My IQ is 120 and I do. To the point where I alienate myself from people. Even online, I *wanna* enjoy twitter and tiktok or whatever, but I can’t bring myself to open those apps because I am fatigued from reading people’s stupid opinions and their idiotic thoughts, and I’m tired of seeing how many actually agree with the most basic 3rd grade level fallacies. So I just don’t.

I can imagine how it feels to +3 SDs.

>>16692306
What is your favorite sub reddit?

>>16691708
interesting, would you mind elaborating on why you have such strong feelings on nietziche?