Thread 16692237

How do coomers cope with the fact that porn reduces gray matter?
The study: https://yellowbrickprogram.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Brain-Structure-and-Functional-Connectivity-Associated-With-Pornography-Consumption-The-Brain-on-Porn.pdf

so what if it does?

I would argue that pornography actually helps to restructure and reorder the brains neurons and neural synapses.

Let me start by proposing a question.
What is a fetish?
What exactly causes someone to be attracted not even to a person feet, but to the inanimate object such as 'shoes' upon the feet, or the odor of either the feet or the foot odor embedded into said foot covering shoe. (looking at you Quinton Tarantino).

The answer? Error in the routing of neural synapse pathways between neurons.
When reproduction neural pathways occur it is usually into and out of vagina, everything else is automatic.
But an attraction for shoes signifies an error in the neural synapse pathways leading from the sex and reproductive portion of the brain, linking to another portion of the brain handling inanimate objects.

The larger of a variety of scenes, roleplay scenarios, points of view, instruments and tools involved, power transfer, participants, angles, locations, outfits, emotional outpourings, which are in essence observers you build and manufacture inside of your mind using building block parts. From this perspective of looking at it as building complexity and playfully allowing comparisons of ratios, you build much more than if you did not experience that stimulation.

>>16692237 (OP)
Propaganda.
Porn has done the opposite to me of what your retarded propaganda says. Fuck off and kill yourself.

>>16692237 (OP)
It's unclear whether these brain differences shown in the paper are caused by pornography or are pre-existing traits that make individuals more likely to use it

>>16692237 (OP)
>yellowbrickprogram
>wp-content
>jamanetwork
>MUH HECKING JUNK JOURNALS!
Learn to cite real sources, not schizo babble with "big" implications to generate fake impact.

>>16692262
fpbp

>>16692237 (OP)
qrd?

>>16692237 (OP)
>yellowbrickprogram
>ifunny.co
It's obvious porn _can_ have heavy medium-term consequences in behavior, specially with compulsive consumption. But it's not clear that it
- has long-term consequences if you start to regulate porn usage (so going straight for gray matter is fucking retarded and dubious result),
- or has any negative consequences with moderate use (when it's not an addiction).
If someone has social problems with girls it might not even be because of porn, but because they have mediocre social skills. Blaming it on porn is retarded because I remember more popular guys in my high school being heavy porn consumers.

It's always some ex-giga-coomer with low social skills selling you this idea that porn is catastrophic for social and mental health. I don't like that I like it though, but it doesn't affect me negatively.

>>16692265
> tfw porn literally rewires your brain
> fetishes = neural pathway fuckups
> your coomer brain connects sex with random objects
> more degenerate scenes = more neural damage
> this is why you're attracted to feet, you absolute brainlet
> source: trust me bro

>>16692237 (OP)
we know about porn
but did you know fps games reduce gray matter in your frontal cortex? scary.

I need to stop watching porn. I'm currently fat, not a chad anymore so it's hard, if not impossible, to get women.
Porn is destroying my reward system and that's harming my performance in uni.
How can I keep my sex life without harming my grades? I'm 130kg, I should be 90 to be attractive to women again.

>>16692607
Buy one DVD and stick to it, you'll get bored after 2 weeks.
The monkey brain likes to see new girls naked because it thinks that means you're successful with women.
Also read hentai instead, even the most depraved hentai.

>>16692378
this
as usual it's just measuring some meaningless correlation in the population
who fucking cares?

>>16692292
daaamn brother look at those thighs

>>16692292
These sluts are a lot of fun until your balls get stuck on a branch cut.

>>16692237 (OP)
They consume nicotine, and the hypofrontality is reversed.

>>16692237 (OP)
>How do coomers cope with the fact that porn reduces gray matter?
Friendly reminder that a therapist's job security relies on them spreading psyop propaganda designed to make you feel bad about decisions that literally don't even effect anyone else.

>>16692237 (OP)
lots of things "reduce grey matter". getting older does, for a start.
we are all constantly getting older. might as well have a wank really.

>>16692584
Whats the effect of that happening? Got a source on that? Would love to know more about it

>>16692237 (OP)
i vill get zee brain chip for free (neuralink) so i can goon more effectively, in vee-arr, with my vaifus. and iv zay uze my brain to mine crypto, vhy should i care? as long as i get zee nut.

>>16692237 (OP)
>porn reduces gray matter?
Any repetitive monotomous compulsive behavior over long time does. Praying 7 times a day or even exercising under an unchanging routine do it just as sure as cranking it. Same with repetitive physical labor. Anything that you you do automatically following a well-ingrained habit pattern no longer involves a substantial amount of higher cerebral activity, and as such leads to it's degeneration. Which in many cases is good, as excessive cerebral activity is just another way of saying neuroticism/anxiety. A perfectly conscious man is a nervous man. A perfect man of habit is a brain-dead retard. Human needs a balance of conscious efforts and habits to function, and masturbation is far from the best habits to have, but not the worst either.

>>16692237 (OP)
>synthetically generated dopamine
This makes no sense.

>>16692265
>The answer? Error in the routing of neural synapse pathways between neurons.
So, related to synaesthesia, then?

>>16693440
In their intention, it means unearned and unsustainable floods of dopamine from something as trivial as pulling your pants down and mindlessly clicking with your finger, it's a good way to capture the essence of it

>>16693374
> engaging your neocortex 7 days per day will give you hypofrontality
this is the most retarded post on 4chan

>>16693053
might as well not wear gloves when pulling the food out of the oven since lots of things can burn your hands, why is this board so braindead it fells like most of you are sub 90 IQ kids that came here because of insecurities

>>16693475
do you have to be quite so painfully humourless anon

>>16692237 (OP)
porn motivates me to grind harder as I know I'm never touching a female without paying

>>16692237 (OP)
What matter is power. Fuck the dark matter in the brain. It's for Jews.

>>16692504
explicit content has been hijacked by the surveillance capitalist apparatus (or just deepstate or military industrial complex) to inculcate your consent and induce your compliance . A form of personalized propaganda that coopts members of your community into becomming propagandists on behalf of this state by laundering money into accounts that optimize their social containment control algorithms

>>16692237 (OP)
I'm smart enough that even losing a third of my IQ to porn it doesn't matter, because I'm still more intelligent than anyone that matters.

>>16693831
If thisis true why are there so many anti-State retards getting play?

>>16692237 (OP)

If you watch any form of pornography you are literally under Jewish mind control and a total cuckold.

Jews weapon of choice is pornography to further degenerate society. When Israel invaded the Gaza Strip in 2002 they took over the 3 main television stations and just broadcast porn 24/7. Porn lowers you sex drive and makes you mentally weak.

>>16693835
I dont see many anti state retards getting play that are also anti deepstate

they operate on hegelian dialects, if you fall outside their overton window you'll never see it

>>16693115
It doesn't do that it was just a rhetorical tool to defend porn or waste your time, thank you.

>>16692237 (OP)
Gray matter reduction is becuase the brain becomes more efficient at a process.
You're not where near as smart as you think you are, /pol/tard

>>16692237 (OP)
I'd be curious whether written erotica has the same effect.

>>16692237 (OP)
Just stay focus on nice math.

>>16692237 (OP)
From the conclusion:
>However, the observed volumetric association with PHs in the striatum could likewise be a pre-condition rather than a consequence of frequent pornography consumption. Individuals with lower striatum volume may need more external stimulation to experience pleasure and might therefore experience pornography consumption as more rewarding

Also, this is problematic:
>A positive correlation was observed
between PHs and Alcohol Use Disorder Identification Test score (r64 = 0.250, P < .05) and Beck Depression Inventory
score (r64 = 0.295, P < .05).
Both alcohol use and depression reduce gray matter. The people in their study consuming the most porn, who were the most likely to show reduction in gray matter, consumed alcohol problematically and had stronger symptoms of depression.

Furthermore, the study
>involves self-reporting (kek)
>appears to have no control group, no group who didn't view any porn at all to compare to
>nearly a third of their participants tested positive for being at risk for internet sex addiction, which seems rather high

>>16693992
dunno bro, what's your favorite man's soap btw?

>>16692237 (OP)
There is no actual distinction between "synthetically generated dopamine" and "naturally generated dopamine".

>>16694081
they mean that you can't generate the same amount of dopamine by wanking to your imagination alone.

>>16693992
same but for chatbots. I'm pretty sure they've fried my brain. Haven't looked at real porn for maybe a year now.

>>16694078
I don't think I'm the sort of person who would use soap specifically branded as "for men" even if I were a man. (How many people who jerk off to prose are, and why else did you think I was concerned about that?)

>>16694070
Wonderful, now OP will make 10 other bullshit threads and no one will read your post. The mods facilitate coordinated disinformation efforts like OP btw.

>>16693771
you are not funny.

Fuck you Catholic prudes. "Synthetically generated dopamine"...that proves this meme is retarded.

>>16694325
There's such a thing as superstimuli (stimuli that push our evolved buttons harder than anything in the ancestral environment ever did) though.

>>16694293
Biologically, you are a man.

>>16692237 (OP)
https://youtu.be/XzE7S3na3J0

it's beyond their control. get it?

>>16692237 (OP)
the correlation doesn't necessarily mean causation.
less grey matter will mean less self control in general.

>>16692237 (OP)
Is it reversible?
>t. Feel slower than I was a couple years ago

>>16692237 (OP)
Japs are crazy sex fiends yet have the highest IQ on the planet tho.

>>16694036
What does that have to do with porn tho?

>>16693471
Dopamine is dopamine.

>>16692939
Studies like this just show that there is much more to be studied. Because it raises more questions than gives answers. And given the complexity of shit, you can't just pile up variables and expect to have a good experiment and results.

>>16692237 (OP)
This is a study of people who self-reported their pornography usage and the ones with the highest usage had the lowest grey matter. Does this mean that pornography damages your brain? No, in order to prove that then you would need to take people who don't use porn, measure their grey matter, have them spend a month watching lots of porn, then measure it again to see if it had an effect.

When all you have is
>people who do X have Y attribute
then all you have is correlation, not causation. The reason for this correlation could just as easily be that people with lower grey matter have a higher urge to watch porn. Per your own study,
>it could be a precondition that makes pornography consumption more rewarding

The reason why no one takes you people seriously is because nofap and related cults are well over 20 years old at this point and we have yet to see one single legitimate study supporting any of your claims. It would be extremely easy to structure a followup study like the one I described above:
>get test subjects who watch little or no porn
>measure brain
>make them watch lots of porn
>measure brain
That's all you need to do. If you're so sure that their brains would be damaged then it should be easy to prove. Why has no one proven it yet?

>>16692237 (OP)
Porn is just a symptom of the disease called capitalism. Capitalism, silicon valley, right wing politicians want you to be a retard. They need that to exist.

>>16695415
in contrast the homo sovieticus was a renaissance man, amriite?

>>16694434
Trans women are not particularly known to be more likely than other natal-male people to jerk off to writings rather than videos.

>>16695369
Mightn't it be that the sort of person who doesn't watch porn much of their own volition would also be less affected by porn because it doesn't stimulate the reward centers of their brain much?

>>16695476
Your opinion is irrelevant, as a woman.

>>16692237 (OP)
If I stop watching porn or stop jacking off, will I regain my gray matter and cognitive abilities return?

>>16695369
>in order to prove that then you would need to take people who don't use porn, measure their grey matter, have them spend a month watching lots of porn, then measure it again to see if it had an effect.
Would you extend that same logic to drug and alcohol addicts? Because the changes in their brain structure is very visible after prolonged use.

>>16695498
So whether I'm a man or a woman depends on what's convenient for your argument?

>>16692237 (OP)
what about gooning and cooming to IRLs on /b/?

>>16695507
Dude, stop blabbering.

>>16693471
People get the same dopamine from participating in religious rituals so we should ban those too

>>16692237 (OP)
>synthetically generated dopamine
retard.

>human circa since time immemorial
>engaging in the sin of encouraging mass hysteria
ngmi

>>16692237 (OP)
Cope? They coom, man. Do you think coomers are the minority lmao

>>16692237 (OP)
Nobody gives a fuck about gray matter you fucking geek

>>16695649
>>16695741
>>16695818
>>16695827
coping cumbrains or shills? call it.

>>16693472
>7 days per day
Apparently it does.

>>16692237 (OP)
Just wait to discover, that shifting from porn to crystal meth makes your habbits healthier.

It's true. Stopping watching porn was one of the best decisions I've ever made. You don't even know how much it impacts you until you stop.

>>16695510
It's like the issues of porn but on a ridiculously bigger scale.

>>16695503
Yes, and your executive functions will be stronger than if you were to never abuse your prefrontal cortex to begin with.
Also by engaging in porn and that type of abuse in various situations you've built a lot of willpower that now you will be able to use for productive goals.

>>16695369
That's unethical.
Anyway, direct causation was proven in countless addictions that deal with the reward system so it goes both ways, both that some people by sheer deficiency when it comes to their brain are prone to fall into that trap and that ordinary people fall into the trap and prolonged use has shaped their brain negatively.

>>16694221
The irony is that it is you who's enjoying that process and imagining things with the images, so in a very real way you're done doin' that for yourself, and understanding that plus re-evaluating is the first serious step into stopping PMO-ing

jesus fuck
listen to yourselves
does nobody on this board have actual normal sexual relationships?

>>16696146
>normal sexual relationships

>>16696146
You're in 4chan. Take the incel doome blackpill.

>>16696173
Kind of ironic since Freud was gaslighting rape victims and telling them they just were in love with their dads while they were complaining about their family members molesting them.

Regardless, he was probably right about this.

>>16697585
Freud? Fraud.

>>16692237 (OP)
Genuine question here: does gooning to my own imagination, with no screens involved at all, have the same negative effects as porn?

>>16698823
only if you say no homo

attached pic is unrelated

>>16698823
only if you forget to say no homo

attached pic is unrelated

This study is bullshit, and the braincells and time wasted on this thread are better employed beating off to porn.

>>16692237 (OP)
What if having less gray matter makes you watch porn? What if they're correlated due to other factors and have no causal relation? Oh, I guess non-interventional statistical studies can't make that distinction. It's almost like they're completely worthless.

what i notice is that boomers born before porn epidemic are way happier with their wives

>>16692237 (OP)
>porn also disconnects the viewer from reality and degrades the relationship between men and women
kek
how dare you degrade the HOLY FOID...
as always it's gynocentric feminism behind the limitation of male sexual vitality.
the line could be equally read as "porn sets unrealistic standards of beauty", written by a fat undesirable woman, and not be put under the makeup of aiming for a higher masculine health