Thread 16700950

ProjectCyclops - edition

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/19730010095

previous >>16698414

How about Project Guyclops, and its just for the fellas?

>>16700950 (OP)
two weeks, but it's not going to launch on a sunday.

why build space stations when we can build space mattresses?

>>16700965
What happens when the trees grow a bit more?

>>16700966
you send space mexicans to trim them

If you have a VR headset, just a heads up.

https://x.com/vast/status/1935336542219944118

>Haven-1 VR is officially available for download from Meta, the App Store, and Steam

>>16700970
i hate 3d printer fags so much

>>16700968
we need a siesta in the mars constitution

>>16700950 (OP)
They already started to film the Moon landing because Felon Musk's Starshit can't reach orbit.

>>16700971
guess i'll try it out later today

>>16700974
just don't pull a Apollo 12 and zap the camera into the sun fellas

>>16700974
lol what’s up with the cope lander design? They already know they’re doing the mission on starship.

>>16700974
why dont they do the smart thing and bring some lights with them?

>>16700973
Mars days are a half hour longer so they can have it in that period

>>16700980
You wouldn't notice them unless they approach solar brightness

>>16700982
>solar brightness
what

>>16700983
Same reason you cant see stars on the moon unless its night or you step into shadow and dont have sunlit terrain in your field of vision

Remember Musk’s melty?

>>16700991
it's actually a musk grilled cheese
a melt is a different thing

>>16700991
which one?

>>16700998
the one where he screamed at the spacex employees and went berserk after CRS-7

>>16700999
actually don't know that one

Ha ha, fuck that retard that made the earlier new thread!

>>16700959
hahahaha hell yeah dude

>>16700991
He's bringing us the Starfleet Academy so I don't care about anything else.

>>16701022
>cool idea
>I'm autistically fixated on a superficial element though
Yes Elon, we could've guessed

>>16701029
It was easy bait for him to take given that the proposal placed it in the same place as Starfleet's academy in Star Trek. Main thing to keep in mind is that this isn't an actual Pentagon plan, it's something a couple of retired officers came up with.
The location is bad for many physical security reasons. They picked it because, beyond the Star Trek stuff, they think they'd be able to tap into the tech talent of the Bay Area. Being integrated into the culture of that area is the last thing the military is going to want for a service academy.

>>16701036
Sigh...
>Michael LaValle and DeVan Shannon, both former Army officers, suggest the establishment of a comprehensive military academy akin to West Point, aimed at equipping future officers for the swiftly changing dynamics of contemporary warfare. Their vision, known as the “Frontier Academy,” is set to be located near Silicon Valley at the Presidio in San Francisco. This site historically functioned as an Army post and, interestingly, served as the fictional home of Starfleet Academy in Star Trek.
>LaValle and Shannon contend that the existing U.S. military academies are sluggish in their adaptation and fail to incorporate innovations from the private sector completely. They propose that an academy close to tech giants such as SpaceX and Google would enable students to participate in military reserves while engaging in the private sector, thereby establishing an essential connection between military and civilian technological progress.
>The proposal emphasizes insights from Ukraine and Israel, showcasing how young leaders in cyber and robotics assume significant military responsibilities at younger ages. In contrast, the U.S. does not have a clear framework for cultivating young, tech-savvy military leaders.
>Although the Air Force, Navy, and Army academies have incorporated cyber and space programs, LaValle and Shannon argue that establishing a dedicated academy is essential to leverage technological innovation for the future of warfare fully.

>>16701038

>giving future officers a California mindset

Jeez ... rather stick with the snake handling hicks.

>>16700978
Not Al Beans best moment

>>16701020
preferred his pic though

>>16700950 (OP)

> $10 billion in Gold Backed Federal Notes at early 70s valuation, for a single purpose facility searching out only to 1000 ly for something virtually certain not to exist that close.

You think you hate NASA enough, but you really don't.

NB: That's $80 to $90 billion in Trump Bucks.

>>16700965
Because His Holiness is on board with the excavation plan

>>16700950 (OP)
>jason calencanis
If Elon cares about the Epstein list so much, why is he hanging out with a guy near the top?

>>16701055
Catholic lava tube fiefdoms? COUNT me in (no pun intended heheh)

Government-run space program anon reporting in.

>>16701059
Pedo is just his go-to insult for anyone who doesn't do what he demands. It doesn't literally mean he thinks the person he's trying to insult has sex with children. It does however beg the question of why that's his go-to insult of choice.

>>16701063
Where the fuck does the potential energy for a lightning strike even come from?

>>16700965
Interesting concept but how resilient would it be to post failures? How many could it lose in an area before collapse?

Am I going to be explaining Mars mattress to newfags until I'm 90?

>>16701066
you could do like airships and make it out of many mattresses instead of a single mattress. airships used many air bladders instead of a single one so that there wasnt a single point of failure.

>>16701071
He doesn't even know it's a tensile structure.

>>16701069
you could just write it up and post the link until you're 90 instead.

>>16701071
>single point of failure.
thats the idea itself.

>>16701069
Yes. This is the first time I've ever heard of the concept. If you wish to promote it beyond your bubble (or air mattress), you have to be willing to educate those new to the concept.

>>16701078
https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/2019/11/28/domes-are-very-over-rated/

>>16701076
Yeah if you think pressure vessels being punctured works like the movie Alien

>>16701083
you mean they dont? i was really hoping to see someone sucked out of a quarter sized hole.

Decompression not being like Hollywood movies doesn't mean habitat leaks aren't an important issue that must be accounted for with something beyond hand waving.

>>16701065
the sun

>>16701102
I don't think that's true at all

>>16701104
it comes from manitou

why is it called spaceFLIGHT? it's not really flying now is it

more like floating, or hanging about

>>16700965
why not just replace the mass of the gas above your head with a similar mass of fluid

>>16701120
flüght

>>16701120
Our machines operate inside of atmospheres, thus they're all flying

>>16701121
Finally a use for aerogel.

>>16701130
woll smoth

Does /sfg/ support this?

>>16701143
What "people" is this meant to be a gift from?

It's some euro artist trying to drum up business for himself. No doubt this is meant to be funded by the government, with the money going to him.

>>16701143
On paper yes but they've only got 3 statues to their name and none of them use titanium. They also wouldn't actually use only titanium and instead would have a steel structure inside with a only a titanium shell.
Also note the complete lack of any real images outside of the three finished statues.
https://www.ateliermissor.com/pages/titanium-statues
https://www.ateliermissor.com/pages/our-monuments

>>16701143
Titanium seems unnecessarily expensive for such a thing.

>>16701143
Its fucking stupid and nobody would support it.
That would cost a fortune, and get visits from only a handful of local spics who see Prometheus and say, "¿Qué?"
Also the few thousand nerds who travel down there just to take a few selfies, look at the infrastructure for a few minutes, walk on the beach until they have to shit and want to get out of the heat, sun, wind, dust, and biting insects.
Titanium is a stupid choice, why not stainless steel, like this thing in Chicago, its the wet dream of Elon to achieve this level of polish and surface accuracy with Starship. Can you imagine mirrored ships.

An SPMT broke last night
https://x.com/SpaceCosmicCrew/status/1935250265466442025

>>16701155
I remember when they had the Bucket to sit on. now it's a little cage thingy, neat

>>16701148
So many of the pictures and graphics on this site are just godawful AI.
Clearly from the clips that aren't, those three statues are real and they did actually make them, but the shop as a whole is extremely amateurish. These guys don't know how to run a business or an efficient studio and this project would 100% destroy them before they finished.

>>16701155
Holy Shit!!
They move ships and boosters on these things ALL THE TIME. Including that very unit that just would have caused a fall and possible fatalities.
Imagine a booster on there, ready to go, falling into the Starfactory on Hwy 4. Or the office building, housing, bystanders.

>>16701157
I refuse to give business to companies with AI slop product descriptions and whatnot.
Why the hell does chatGPT like the green arrow symbol so much anyways?

>>16701143
>too lazy to even use a real artist for good concept art
Already over, creatively bankrupt

spehs

>>16700965
THIS IS WHAT WILL HAPPEN

>>16701143
is the gift aislop from this indian account?

>>16701155
embarrassing

>>16700950 (OP)
Did Elon even invent this or is it just more retarded waste?

>>16701213
>elon
>inventing something

>>16701213
Elon invented this in your mother's pussy.

HOLTY HSITT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKwWclAKYa0

ITS OVER
MUSK LOST
MUSK LOST

how are they gonna test shit at masseys ???????????

im shaking rn

Holy shit! RIP Ship 36

2 weeks

massive setback for the starship program
how are they gonna test ship 37+???
yeah no mars for 2026 nor are we getting a ship catch this year

>>16701236
>>16701237
2 weeks btw

That's a big explosion and fire, I wonder how big would it be with full stack explosion.

aaaaaaaaaaand 2026 is off the table
see you guys in 2028 or whatever

well, it was good while it lasted

UH OH STINKY

that's it, i'm killing myself

At what point do you just scrap v2

>>16701255
now lol

Things are still catching fire and exploding

that didn't look like a normal explosion.

>>16701153
If they really wanted to honor SpaceX, they'd use the same stainless steel as Starship instead of the type of meme material the company typically rejects or at least minimizes.

Q/A issues with rapid changes in designs

>>16701262
well titanium is fitting for Prometheus as he was a titan, but that's a lot of extra money just for an obscure nod

>>16701261
ULA sniper strikes again.

a-any way to sugarcoat this?

NEVER GOING TO MARS
>CHINA WON
NEVER GOING TO MARS
>CHINA WON
NEVER GOING TO MARS
>CHINA WON
NEVER GOING TO MARS
>CHINA WON
NEVER GOING TO MARS
>CHINA WON
NEVER GOING TO MARS
>CHINA WON

>>16701268
The fire will eventually RUN OUT OF OXYGEN AND DIE

>>16701268
>this is why we test on ground

Big yikes. God has been punishing Elon for ket binging Indian shilling ways. Think about it the program was going fantastically until trump showed up at a launch and it’s all downhill from there.

THANK YOU ELON FOR BOMBING USA AND GIVING US A BETTER SHOW THAN IRAN

>>16701143
Remember when a crypto project dropped this off at Tesla HQ

good morning /sfg/ (volume warning)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aqfu9g9zZUQ

Imagine being at tiles team.

That's not very typical, I'd like to make that point

The problem is the methane. Very temperamental, you see. Elon should go with a borane-based fuel for v3.

Imagine wanting to put Humans inside that shit

>>16701288
Did you buy a ticket to get on that ship?

https://x.com/IntelPointAlert/status/1935550776304156932
different video. absolute cinema

Well, that wraps up Starship launches for 2025!
Did we meet or exceed expectations?

at this point they should just go back to the drawing board and start all over

>>16701291
did NOT meet expectations, not even close

Now that the dust has settled, when's the next launch?

Iran has gone too far...

Just set up a China size solid motor plant and drop the cost of a solid stage to zero. Fuck this liquid nonsense just make solid prop dirt cheap so who cares if u expend it.

inb4 it was a lithium battery fire from the avionics gear that caused it

>>16701291
I blame the chief engineer

>>16701295
Israel is blowing up ancient, decrepit, falling-apart museum-pieces like 707s, F14s, and Cobra helis, so a Starship V2 seems like a reasonable addition to that pile

>few hours ago
2 WEEKS!!!
>now
ITS OVER

>a month from now
WE SO BACK

uh oh, looks like saarshit exploded again.

>>16700950 (OP)
Q predicted that S36 will explode
>16700840
>16700840
>16700840

>>16701301
Ignore this, we need to put humans inside of one of these ASAP and send them to Mars, it's happening late 2025 or 2026 trust the plan.

It's not too late to convert SpaceX into a fantastic fireworks manufacturer.

>16701302
>>16700840
>>16700840
>>16700840

thunderf00t-sama... I'm sorry...

>>16701307
the prophet...

>>16701307
Um.
This was posted like 10 hours ago.

Thunderf00t-dono, I kneel and squeel!!!!!! AIIEEEEEEEEEE WE ARE SORRY FOR DOUBTING YOU!!!

>>16701317
I kneel

>>16701301
That doesn't make any sense. Actual ULA sniper

>>16701315
i remember seeing that post and i felt my heart jump for a sec
he was right...

happy Juneteenth /sfg/

>>16701315
We have a saboteur aboard

>>16701319
maybe it was the door

Man, it's been a while since we've had hardware blow up on the ground

>>16701323
ELON WILL YOU PLEASE SHUT DA DOOOOOOOOOOOOOR

HOW
ARE
WE
FEELING
/SFG/????
lotta doomer happenings this past few months

>>16701326
from "Anotha day, anotha dolla" to "It really do be like sometimes"

here you can buy free money
https://polymarket.com/event/spacex-starship-flight-test-10

>>16701326
The explosion was actually a good thing because now they will learn from the mistake and correct it so that the next time it explodes they can learn from that mistake and correct it so the next time it explodes they can learn from that mistake and correct it so the next time it explodes they can learn from that mistake and correct it so the next time it explodes they can learn from that mistake and correct it so the next time it explodes they can learn from that mistake and correct it so the next time it explodes they can learn from that mistake and correct it so the next time it explodes they can learn from that mistake and correct it

>>16701331
delightfully counterintuitive

>>16701331
trvthnvke

THUNDERF00T, I WRONGED YOU

>>16701319
I pray that this was either a deranged Elon hater with a Barrett or a false flag to let Spacex aggressively lobby for some sort of enhanced security zone that will coincidentally also let them turn as much of the wetland into launch pads as they want.
But I know in my heart it was just something retarded.

this is the same company that has launched 500 gralcon 9s.
maybe it's the south texas water

>>16701326
I'll go with a "Such is life."

>>16701322
a fucking spacex cook

Do we have a statement or a probable cause?

>>16701341
No statement, but as for a probable cause...

>>16701341
Could be some kind of explosion

>Starshit v2
How the fuck is a new iteration in design a complete fucking dud? How do you manage to make everything worse in the process of making it better?

>>16701342
Sorry, wrong pic

>>16701341
Small payback from Trump for Musk's Epstein melty.
Courtesy of the CIA.

Didn't the guy in charge of v2 design leave the company before the first company.

>>16701347
Before the first flight*

drone view from NSF

https://files.catbox.moe/lmxmyx.mp4

>>16701344
The thing is, Starship V1 is useless. Starship V2 is an attempt to make V1 useful.

>>16701341
the elon cheese is melted

>>16701347
ULA assassins...

>>16701344
we had the Atari 5200 before the wonderful 7800. sometimes the middle child is retarded

>>16701285
Has SpaceX ever considered designing a rocket that doesn't blow up?

>>16701346
Most likely cause at this point.
Its sabotage until proven otherwise.

>>16701342
>>16701343
>>16701345
Har har fucking har

the sabotage is coming from inside the house

failure is a rather common option

>ula sniper
>shoddy work
>trump
>mexican welders getting payback for the ice raids
>leftist sabotage
>iran
take your pick. all valid.

don't worry lads, two more decades until Mars base

>>16701074
>>16701078
>>16701069
>Mars mattress
The Mars is a revolutionary mattress designed to provide a weightless, tailored sleep experience. Our natural materials, water-based formula....

>>16701356
Rockets are just repurposed ICBMs. Blowing up is their nature, trying to change that is impossible. Just like a person born as a man will never become a woman.

Starship is musk's spruce goose

IT'S SO FUCKING OVER

WE'RE NEVER GETTING OFF THIS ROCK

>>16701367
>"get in"

>>16701363
Add China fuckery to the list.

>>16701356
That's heresy Anon.

HAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

>Be me, a (former) relatively OG Spacex employee
>Have most of my net worth tied up in employee-only Spacex stock that I can only sell twice per year
>Decide last semester to stay invested even though Elon is being a retard because I have faith in the company
>Watch as they repeatedly make unbelievably sophomoric fuckups for the last six months
>Culminating in them blowing up starship on the pad and probably removing the equivalent of a 3 bedroom house from my retirement fund

Words can not describe the hate I feel

Bros... did China just win?

>>16701382
its time for you to go back to the rocket mines to save the company

>>16701368
You're right, we're never leaving.

>>16701364
>don't worry lads, two more centuries until Mars base
ftfy

This gives me great hope. The worse possible thing is Humanity getting off this planet.
Humans are like locusts.
We need another 6 million years of mental evolution before we might be fit enough to become a space faring civilization

>>16701368
China will. Elon is just the last gasp of a dying empire.

>>16701384
I'm up in Seattle unfortunately. I'm an OG Starlink employee who worked from the early development years up through 2021. Took a few years off and then went to work for Kuiper before deciding that shit was an unbelievable joke. Now I work for a local startup that's also insane and retarded but at least they pay me decent and don't make me work 16 hour days. Stoke wanted me to come work for them recently but I turned them down because they told me they were "trying to work DOWN to 80 hour weeks". At this point I might jump back in just to help kill Spacex out of spite. Maybe starting a family will have to wait a few more years...

>>16701392
update your priors anon population bomb isn't a thing anymore

the real blackpill is we have zero reason to go anywhere else and the human population will peak in the 2080s at something like 10 billion

Maybe it's not the ULA sniper, but chinese hot air balloons.

I just wrote about some madman shooting the rockets like a couple of weeks ago.

Holy fuck I'm getting so sick of this fucking company. What the actual fuck are they doing? Sure "le iterative testing" blah blah blah, but at some point you have to realise there's a serious problem with your vehicle that can't be resolved with preventative measures if it explodes three times in flight and out of nowhere on the ground.

>>16701251
WHAT

Does anyone know of a complete list of great filters or points supporting the rare Earth hypothesis? Every year it feels like a new study gets published discovering yet another factor that seems like a prerequisite for life to exist beyond just the obvious things.

>>16701405
>Anomaly
What is this, a Star Trek episode?

WHAT

>>16701251
https://youtu.be/eAoR4h6SQGg

>>16701313
Launchpad: Destroyed
Chopsticks: Gone

I just counted with my hand how many times in a row Starship failed, 4 times. I am scared... just 2 more failures and I need my second hand but I am not sure if I am able to count with 2 hands.....

>>16701409
oh my youtube poop nostalgia...

>>16701406
I think it's one of those Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena we've been hearing about.

SpaceX is done

>>16701402
This is what happens when you run out of Nazi German scientists.

NSF going schizo

Give it to me straight.
How long before a new launch after this fuck up?

>>16701421
Two weeks

Red dragon on super heavy

>>16701420
>:)

>>16701421
Massey's has been damaged
so until that comes back online, they won't be able to test ship 37

i would say end of this year

>>16701371
the baikonur cosmodrone mission in bo1 was wrong
you wouldnt even need an rpg at that range

>>16701420
This is nothing new. ULA sniped AMOS-6 and it was hushed up to avoid an incident.

>>16701355
At least they got the data

>>16701398
NOO LOOK AT ALL THAT PRECIOUS WASTED HYDROGEN WE WONT GET BACK

>>16701411
Sounds like you fear the thumb.

>>16701430
>hydrogen
nu/sfg/ moment

>>16701406
They even manated to create physical anomalies like in Stalker.

>>16701418
They're not done but they're destined to become nothing more than a telecom company. Starlink will pay the bills and continue to grow for a few more years, launched by a dwindling but increasingly reliable fleet of F9s. Eventually, Starlink will be outcompeted by Kuiper (god forbid) or some other new startup and Spacex will be relegated to the status of "legacy contractor".

The dream of Mars colonization is dead. It has been for years. At best we will see Chinese boots and flags planted in 20 years.

We still goin' to mars in 2026?

So Musk became a terrorist after Trump cut him off from funding. His next step will be to launch his rocket into twin towers

>>16701420
The commentators are still on copium

>>16701425
> end of this year
Ouch.

>>16701437
they already have twin towers tho

>>16701441
had*

>>16701287
Hypergolic propellant doesn't boil off into space :)

>>16701382
>unbelievably sophomoric fuckups
as opposed to freshman or senior fuckups?

>>16701441
FUCK did it damage the second tower D:

Saturn V:
>13 flights
>13 successes
>1960s

Starship:
>8 flights
>9 failures
>2020s
Why is SpaceX so shit?

>>16701446
It's not near the towers

Things could go from bad, to worse, very quickly.

https://x.com/CSI_Starbase/status/1935577166567141382

>>16701447
not enough Germans

>>16701443
>>16701446
The explosion was at Massey's, a dedicated test site a few miles from the launch site

>>16701449
Oh boy!

>>16701449
This nigger is always wrong

>>16701449
why does he have experience on this

>>16701452
>>16701453
A reminder that he also said engine chill down was unique to Raptor

>>16701451
Well it could have been worse

25 flights this year

We're not in a simulation. This is baseline reality. We won't overcome the great filter due to human corruption and greed. We will get another ai winter. We will reduce our energy consumption and production to slow climate change. American and Chinese space industries will lose interest in developing large reusable rockets. Elon Musk will slowly age and pass away, resulting in his companies losing their drive and focus. We will have more regulation that will stifle innovation and start ups.

It's over for Starship really... just failure after failure

>>16701457
i mean destroying your test site is pretty bad desu
they won't be launching anything until its repaired

>>16701459
>resulting in his companies losing their drive and focus.
WHAT drive and focus? They don't have any

Spaceship will rise from the ashes stronger than before, like a Phoenix

>>16701462
Good. They need to slow down

>>16701459
There's also Bezos, who isn't INSANE

if the nazis won, we would have had a moonbase by now.

von braun was the product of them.

>>16701464
cope
im a thunderf00t, spaceguy5, css, and pressure fed astronaut GOD now

>>16701459
>We will get another ai winter
Thank G-d. That shit has been going way too fast.

>>16701472
>s37 and s38 are not far behind
yeah but they won't be testing them anytime soon

>>16701473
Musk is crazy enough to "test in production" if you catch my drift

What happened to the "starship will reach orbit before SLS/New Glenn clownoids?

Does nothing wins
how does he do it?

>>16701472
Holy cope

>>16701476
Sorry I posted the wrong pic

>>16701472
SpaceX's own engineers no longer give a shit because they're paid minimum wage

These threads are only propelled by like 5 devoted spergs and a few bots, right?

>>16701464
Definitely ashes, I feel like I'm at a funeral

>>16701344
The entire premise of """"Starship"""" (renamed three times to try and distract normoids and trick them into thinking they haven't been failing at this for more than a decade now) is complete nonsense. There's no way to salvage any of the work here until they admit this, which they can't because of elon's hubris in wanting to have le biggest rocket in le history. It's a bunch of reddit engineers working for reddit management.

>>16701484
No way to salvage anything? What about the engines.

>>16701487
Not even them. They are cursed

>>16701482
there's been a lot of /pol/ immigrants recently
>>16701487
i think the engines are the root cause

Honestly I don't understand how super heavy with its 33 engines ended up being more reliable than the spaceship itself

Why not stick raptors on a falcon 9

Imagine 400 people boarding one of these things

>>16701492
Different teams?

>>16701493
Methane version of falcon 9? That's zubrins starship mini, right?

>>16701496
Yeah I mean why not? The only reason I've heard is
>oh it's not worth it compared to starship
but starship seems like a janky piece of trash

>>16701472

>silver lining : it could've been worse

>Artist's impression of tundra on an inhabited planet around a spectral class F5 star.
G and F type stars FTW, shan't live around a permanent piss-tint daytime.

>>16701492
Organisation dysfunction at the production level. While Elon has been having fun in washington, the company has been floundering

>>16701501
All stars appear white, yes even red dwarfs. Only brown dwarfs appear visibly red.

How have they been developing Raptor since 2010 and still not figured it out? The Soviets figured this stuff out in the 70s...

>>16701501
that's a screenshot from SpaceEngine

>>16701499
>>16701499
To be fair, that's essentially what a silver lining is

>>16701501
A civilization built around a white dwarf will last forever...

>>16701504
It's not like it's rocket science

>>16701383
No.

>>16701507
Red dwarf is better. It has normal light you can use, and just look at it, it's white. It's not red.
White dwarfs are pure cancer, spewing out UV

>>16701508
Imagine making a bad omelette ten times in a row and then storming out of your kitchen while muttering "cooking is hard" under your breath. That's SpaceX right now lmao

>>16701512
Elon doesn't give a shit. He's just tweeting crap about his drug test.

https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/1935567072114667775
>Starship 36 exploding during testing tonight.

kino

>>16701516
The tanks look ok desu

>>16701513
Being a level-headed engineer and having to work under a lunatic has got to be demoralizing.

>>16701520
Literally who?

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1935531784978186276

first time I've seen Musk mention Sergio Gor
he was supposedly the perso that convinced Trump to drop Jared Isaacmans nomination due to a grudge against Musk, Musk called him out in a cabinet meeting for working too slowly

>>16701522
not sure if bait or retarded

>>16701519
Maybe their morale would improve if they built a rocketship that didn't explode

>>16701143
Looks cool. If they'll be financing this themselves, then I support it.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1935452434039718375
>The WSJ & New York Times fake “journalists” lied through their teeth about me.
>Now let’s see their drug test results.
>They will fail.

Musk also showed test results from hair

>>16701251
Wow.

>>16701472
And just think of all the science they'll be able to do on the ground to iterate future ships while they wait for Massey's to be fixed!

>>16701503
>All stars appear white, yes even red dwarfs.
Is this actually true or not? I keep hearing about this and based on just putting a light source with the temperature of an incandescent bulb in a 3d scene and cranking up the luminosity stupidly high kind of gives me that impression but I was never able to accurately test it because programs like Blender are a shit and don't work well with astronomically high values for distance and light, and Space Engine & Universe Sandbox are toys in the department of accurate light colors.

https://x.com/RGVaerialphotos/status/1935550661396984216
>Ship 36 explodes during static fire attempt at Massey's.
>Here's what it looked like earlier this afternoon, June 18th.

>>16701505
oh yeah? which star system?

>>16701069
just post the Handmer article, its also where the pic that is posted more often comes from

https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/2019/11/28/domes-are-very-over-rated/

>randomly explodes on the pad

Starship program is cooked lmao welcome to the Chinese century lads.

>>16701524
Is Musk trying to set the world record for accumulating the most enemies?

>>16701537
masseys should be fixed before v3 ship is ready
might mean that the remaining v2s (S37 and S38) are skipped if it takes too long to fix

>>16701529
Not saying that's fake but why on Earth would you believe a billionaire's claim of having a negative drug test? Do you really think he couldn't easily buy a negative result?

>>16701541
he was already an enemy before this post

>>16701543
the boosters

https://x.com/BellikOzan/status/1935570009587110152

something that have come up to me has been sabotage through being sloppy on purpose

>>16701511
>if you look at it, its white
>shows optical image showing the visible incandescent tint

>>16701541
Gained himself one enemy and probably gave that guy significantly more

>>16701301
so the header tanks failed or something?

https://x.com/CSI_Starbase/status/1935549822674592233

>wake up
>somehow even worse news
>go to sleep
>wake up
>somehow even worse news
>go to sleep
>
haahaha oh my fucking god

If Alpha Centauri has planets, where would the orbital plane be? We already know Proxima Centauri's is only partially aligned, and the orbit likely means it cannot be the same as the binary pair.

>>16701553
Gor was already an enemy

>>16701552
Ok now look at the middle. It's white. There is a slight red tint but it's overwhelmingly white

two more weeks right

>>16701559
Well the math works out even better, then

>>16701552
Does it look like this? The way it's always drawn? A dim, baleful red sun rising enormously over the horizon its wretched planets?
No it looks like a normal white star with a hint of red around the edges.

>>16701553
At least Gor's rockets don't explode

>>16701143
doesn't really fit the aestethic of SpaceX

The first evidence of failure isn't even where the tanks are. Main nor header.
Kind of looks like a feed line problem.

>>16701557
>Rigel Kentaurus has a planetary candidate observed through direct imaging, possibly a super-Neptune
>it shows up basically top down or bottom up from Eaety's perspective
Well, I guess that answers that question.

>>16701155
first this and then the explosion

will this cause an investigation?

>>16701410
nigga this is masseys, not the launch site

>>16701586
Nigger the entire site was destroyed
The fireball reached all the way from Masseys to the launch site

>>16701316
kino, especially the secondary explosions at the start

>>16701586
Nigger the entire coast of texas was destroyed
The fireball reached all the way from Masseys to Houston

>>16701592
https://x.com/rodamn/status/1935559093797920888

lmao. That was a nice adventure, but now it's over.

>>16701601
this is one of many similar test explosions
its nowhere near over

>>16701590
Anon stop being retarded, S36 had at most a 10% prop load.

>>16701326
"cool"
its fine

>>16701326
>I don't think we making it out of the hood (Earth) bro

>>16701341
it blew up

More scientists wasting everyone's time. A 30,000 km space elevator beanstaking Ceres. For all that work, not as much benefit as you might think. 60% reduction in energy to toss mass off surface and a 15% fuel savings.

>>16701382
the valuation is driven by starlink more than anything, I doubt this will affect the valuation much

>>16701609
what's the point of a space elevator for a body with such low gravity

Toliman telescope when?

>>16701393
lmao

>>16701382
How much is it down in %?

>>16701435
nah

>>16701537

V2 are exploding further back in the launch process. Next one blows up in the Gigabay.

>>16701619
There's no meaningful valuation of SpaceX shares so there's no price

>>16701451
5 miles from starfactory, almost 7 miles from the launch site

Another Starship destroyed the second tower

>>16701425

> Two launch towers
> One test site

Whoops! Found the Gate.

>>16701502
"fun"
not so sure about that lol

Stop being so negative folks, failure is how we learn, how else could they have learned that methane can explode?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71AwkBt3_ts
>SpaceX Starship 36 Explodes During Flight 10 Testing at Starbase

compilation of some NSF cameras

>>16701613

Someone trying to make tenure got a paper out of it. That was the point.

>>16701619
they get valued just a few times a year during secondaries (times when some outsiders can buy stock from current stockholders, including employees) or when SpaceX raises funds
last time SpaceX was valued at 350 bil
if I had to guess, this will not have an impact, the general trajectory has not changed and SpaceX has no real competition right now in launch or satellite broadband even if kuiper has had one launch

Thunderf00t won
Musk lost

>>16701635

> Move the forward flaps slightly
> The ship explodes in a massive fireball

Okay, let's not do that again.

>>16701586
nigger the entire earth has been knocked off its axis
Who knows where we'll end up now
We might even end up in the orbit of Mars

>>16701341
Catastrophic Over Pressure Event

> NASA's FIRMS (Fire Information for Resource Management System) detected the blast.

*waves*

The solution is just to build China size solid motor factories to drop the cost to nothing and do away with this reusable liquid propellant nonsense

The Long March 9, which extensively references the Starship, will be delayed.

>>16701650
Why do spaceflight enthusiasts sound like homosexuals now?

https://x.com/RyanHansenSpace/status/1935582031255085273
>Initial armchair aerospace engineer analysis suggests one of the COPVs in the payload bay, which are arranged around the header tank transfer tubes, may have blown and punched a hole in the windward side of the ship while also severing both header tank transfer tubes. Ship belly starts to unzip and the fwd dome is damaged leading to mixing and ignition. Important to note that there were workers up around the payload bay on S36 in recent days after the successful single engine static fire.

https://x.com/RyanHansenSpace/status/1935587787891515775
>Here are the COPVs in question. There are 6 dark cylinders, 3 on each side of the header tank transfer tubes. This is right at the base of the nose cone where the initial puff appears.

https://x.com/RGVaerialphotos/status/1935567018163315039
>These 2 images were taken 3 months apart: February 24 - May 25, 2024.
>Hopefully the stand can be repaired soon.

>>16701648
source?

Can't catch a break with those ULA snipers

https://x.com/JerryPikePhoto/status/1935566487219216625
>60 FPS Half-Speed replay of Ship 36s RUD tonight

https://x.com/TheRocketFuture/status/1935565787286364386
>Close Detailed Video of the SpaceX Starship Explosion from 1.8 miles Starbase, TX
4K version will be available shortly in the other place.
>Some animals in the foreground, a safe distance away, but scared for sure!

>SpaceX really became a powerhouse after CRS-7 RUD
>Starship first major RUD today
You know what this means right?
200 launches a year soon

>>16701667
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw_AABU4h1E

the 4k

>>16701667
kek, dozens of beetles might have died right there

What the fuck happend to SpaceX

>>16701671
Talent bleed. I'd fuck off to if I was asked to go back wageslaving like a third rate worker instead of comfy WFH.

>>16701671
It's just a rough patch.

>>16701671
this is not unusual

Why did Elon risk the Trump curse? He'll be broke in 2 years ;_;

>>16701676
He has lost the mandate of heaven...

>>16701251
>>16701301
>>16701313
so... two more weeks?

RIP SpaceX

good morning esefg-

oh...

>>16701683
N1 on steroids. The cybertruck of aerospace

>>16701684
is it you that has been posting this? faggot

On the test stand, the mighty test stand,
The Starship RUDs tonight

Near the Starbase, the peaceful Starbase,
The Starship RUDs tonight

I think the test stand might be ok actually, minus the smaller bits

Should just make an expendable Starship at this point. No flaps or landing hardware. Just a steel tube with some engines under it. Sure, would cost like 20 million extra a launch but now you can get +250t to LEO.

>>16701690
Holy mother of copes

>>16701692
i think this is what they will pivot too

>>16701690
I don't think Elon gives a shit about Mars anymore so he won't be trying hard for anything

beatings will continue until success rate improves

>>16701692
How would that prevent it exploding before orbit?

this is a nothingburger, SpaceX will fix the test site in a month or two and launch S37 and S38 and then switch to Block 3 and keep launching
its the middle of June now, the first Block 3 will launch by the end of the year or start of next year, so there is still like 6 months before that
masseys fix takes 1-2 months that still gives 4 months to launch the final block 2 stacks

this might actually not effect the timeline at all

Hey PSA if you're in the area I'd seal your doors and windows. This thing has distributed several TONS of silica fiber (from the tiles) towards population centers. This stuff is akin to Asbestos. Stay safe.

>>16701511
>>16701552
>False color Hubble Space Telescope WFPC2 image taken in 2013. The bright lines are diffraction spikes.
both of you are btfo

@anon Hey I have to go to the bathroom, can you watch Ship 36 real quick

HULLO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C_L-qgHsE0

>>16701703
its not going to be airborne you retard

>>16701710
its already deposited dust and shit everywhere down wind

>>16701635
>>16701646
forward flap tested not long before the explosion
how could that affect the COPVs? >>16701659
maybe the flap movement was just a coincidence

>>16701711
dust, not atomized tiles

ULA sniper

someone's getting fired and screamed at lmao

CNN: Fiery But Mostly Peaceful Rocket Test

>>16701703
>>16701710
>>16701711
>>16701714
Few if any towns in that area, just cows and fugitive kangaroos. Port Isabel and SPI are upwind of whatever is in that radar image.

lol

>>16701722
kek

Good morning /sfg/, thinking abo- OH MY GOD

Yeah, that shit won't have a human boarding it until 2035. I can't fucking believe chinks will get back to the moon first.

Block 2 really gets the biggest useless piece of shit award

I told you to start learning Mandarin, you didn't listen.

well class, what did we learn?

>>16701735
spics are bad workers

>>16701251
HOLY SHIT LOOOL

>>16701742
he's seething lmao

>>16701652
hey

at the rate starship is regressing i expect the stainless steel rolls to start spontaneously combusting in a weeks time

>>16701424

XD

>>16701749
kek

they probably need hazmat suits to enter the area

it's brain drain is my opinion.

>>16701760
Clearly.

>>16701760
No, it's >>16701736
They hire retards who don't care about QC.

>>16701750
>MR MUSK, WHERE ARE YOU?

Mars in 2026
Trust the plan

well, time to get a different hobby for the next six months

>>16701763
haven't they made some kind of commitments to hire locally a lot
but this could be just a freak accident like with AMOS-6 COPVs
something weird new happening that they know how to prevent in the future

So guys we're still good for Starship Flight 10 at the end of June?

>>16701771
yeah it'll be the bomb

>>16701771
Yes, June 2026

Procyon A is weird. Despite being 1.478-1.5ish solar masses, it is already appears to be in the subgiant phase despite models predicting a 1.5 solar mass F-type star to have a lifetime of 3.75 billion years, yet estimates put Procyon A as being less than 2 billion years old. Assuming the model is correct, it would need to be closer to 1.9 solar masses initially and have shed about 0.5 solar masses to get to where it is now.

>>16701778
>Procyon A is weird
YOU'RE weird

>>16701770
That wouldn't be such a big deal if management wasn't retarded. If you had smart and responsible people then they would fire those lazy retards.

https://x.com/BCCarCounters/status/1935656559037563280
>Just in case it was not clear, the @FAANews
has confirmed to me that ground testing is not a licensed activity with the FAA, that demands any sort of mishap investigation.
>This will be a purely SpaceX conducted investigation.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1935660973827952675
>Preliminary data suggests that a nitrogen COPV in the payload bay failed below its proof pressure.
>If further investigation confirms that this is what happened, it is the first time ever for this design.

When are we cancelling Starship?

>>16701787
so one of these >>16701659

>>16701790
"does nothing" is really descriptive

>>16701787
so it got sniped?

>>16701796
He’s at his low point

SpaceX's failure might convince Honda to start a permanent rocket division since their competitor is facing problems

>>16701763
Nail on the head. t. Knower

I know; I’ll call the president a pedophile and call for his impeachment then blow up my rocket

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BgJEXQkjNQ
>SpaceX - Static Fire Anomaly - AMOS-6 - 09-01-2016

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMOS-6_(satellite)
>On 2 January 2017, SpaceX released an official statement indicating that the cause of the failure was a buckled liner in several of the Composite overwrapped pressure vessel (COPV) tanks, causing perforations that allowed liquid and/or solid oxygen to accumulate between the liner and the overwrap, which was ignited by friction.[14]

>>16701780
>YOU'RE weird
I AM.

>Elon stops tard wrangling SpaceX for half a year
>Nothing but failure after failure after failure
So much for the "he just got lucky and hired the best people for the job by pure accident" cope

>>16701805
lmao you're really seething huh

COPV HATE

Rock bottom vibes

>SpaceX is finished because defective COPV exploded
go back to /pol/ retards

are these COPVs even parts they make themselves? or are they supplied from a third party

>>16701816
Coping like it’s not a big deal lol

>>16701820
The flight failures weren't a big deal and this is considerably less than that

>>16701816
>Dude it's not their fault they put defective COPV in the exact place they can blow up the entire rocket when they fail

>>16701821
Thanks for doubling down and proving my point :)

>>16701823
>fault
You don't understand. The magnitude of a problem doesn't depend on who is at fault

>>16701816
They have been making COPVs for how long now? It’s meant to carry human beings.

>>16701821
At a certain point your iterative program has to stop blowing up and actually start working

You guys don't get it, they got so much data out of this failure, it was totally worth it

>>16701805
shut the fuck up

I'm a tier-1 muskrat and I trust the plan. Mars could explode and Elon would still have a colony on it by 2032.

>>16701821
>erm yeah, the rockets were failing in flight but now they are failing before they can even be stacked for flight. Therefore it’s better!
Yes yes everything is normal comrade, perhaps I am delusional and should go to the infirmary!

>>16701826
>>16701829
Bitchmade kek
Go work for Peter Beck

>>16701810
So, he's going to stop all the other distractions and re-dedicate himself to SpaceX since it cannot operate successfully without him?
Or he's going to keep acting like a spastic junkie that can't pay attention to anything for more than a few minutes? Can we get him some of that autism he claims to have so he will use autism's "deep special interest" power to get him to focus on Starship?

>>16701830
Kek

>>16701134
they arent generating aerodynamic lift therefor they are in space.

>>16701833
>made up sentence that was never said
kys

>>16701447
how can you have 8 flights and 9 failures you stupid cunt?

>>16701811
>>16701831
>>16701838
Gonna cry?

>>16701690
The 2026 window wasn't on the table even without the ship 36 RUD.

>>16701823
>in the exact place
You mean anywhere on the rocket lol

>>16701839
It’s called Starship being a piece of shit and failing in the sky and on the ground

>>16701840
holy seethe

>>16701841
So Elon was wrong

>>16701846
you are a tranny

>>16701846
Never heard of Elon Time?

>>16701846
He exaggerates these things all the time and sets expectations slightly higher than reality

>>16701803
Does Japan's post-WWII restrictions on guided rockets impact Honda's ability to get into the market?

>>16701854
No

>>16701790
Nothing wrong with getting rid of 32% of NASA. Problem is which 32% they get rid of. Unfortunately we know that orgs like NASA when forced to downsize, tend to let go of the people actually doing productive work while keeping the management layers and all the nepo hires.

>>16701849
I'm not, but Elon's son certainly is

>>16701857
NOOOOO
You HAVE to make an expendable rocket now because the COPV exploding means reusable rockets are a bad idea retard

>>16701835
>>16701846
>>16701861
>elon
>elon
>elon
you're parasocial with elon musk
lmao

>>16701865
Don't project, and he's not going to give you a couple doge coins to defend him

HOW DID HE KNOW???

>>16700837

>>16701868
that is crazy kek. you are obsessed with "him"
touch grass immediately

>>16701818
Anyone have the photo of the Starship wreckage that looks like a face

>>16701787
I thought Starship is/was going to use autogenous pressurisation. The nitrogen was just a temporary thing? Go all in.

>>16701871
Not prophetic when starship currently has a 100% failure rate

>>16701545
>muh billionaire
Communism isnt an American thing. Hello commie

>>16701874
It's for spin start and purging not tank press

>>16701874
Yes true, though there is rumor they are giving up on autonomous pressurization

>>16701871
Inside job

>>16701874
raptor 3 will fix this

Can they go back to the suborbital type test stand for cryo and static fire at the launch site?
Probably Massey's gonna take a while to repair

It's still crazy to me that out of 9 Starship flights, SpaceX hasn't had a single one that ended without issues.
Also, why not just downsize the payload, and rocket size and make many of them for a Mars mission?
big dildo = big issues
small dildo = small issues

Crazy how aside from one successful hop landing and the catching of super heavy (which granted is a great feat) spacex is still at the same place they were in 2020. It’s been five (5) years yet the same failures are keeping the program stalled. We were watching tanks hop and pop and explode during the pandemic. Maybe someone higher up at spacex can suggest they actually try iterating with their iterative program?

@grok why don't you just design the spaceship?

>>16701887
Big rockets amortize fixed mass parts and are more efficient.
You always wanna go big although stuff like the heat shield and Raptor could have probably been ironed out at smaller scale first

>>16701885
no, there is no suborbital test stand at the launch site and building one would take longer than fixing this one

>>16701890
IFT-1 was in 2023 wtf are you talking about?
And since IFT-1 there's been a bunch of milestones reached.

>>16701887
wrong
flight 5 had no issues

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship_flight_test_5

Remember when people were doomerposting saying it would take a year to recover from this? Then it took like 2 months lol its the same thing

>>16701896
its nowhere near the same thing
this is a nothingburger compared to IFT-1 pad explosion

Remember when tards were blaming FAA for slowing down Starship progress?
I bet they only did so well before because FAA forced them to a proper investigation and fix stuff, now they have free reign and look where it got them

>>16701894
>since IFT-1 there's been a bunch of milestones reached
Lol

>>16701900
just last flight they reused a booster

>>16701895
>flight 5 had no issues
wrong

>>16701872

Lucky guess.

It's unironically not that bad because V2 ships are useless and won't launch any real payloads beside shitlink simulators, Massey's will be repaired in time for V3

>>16701898
Is that photo not from IFT-1?

>>16701906
I mean IFT-1 pad explosion was much worse and still just took a few months to fix
this explosion delays things, but its not a massive problem like the doomers think it is (and think every mishap is basically)
they are going to fix masseys and keep testing

Incredible amounts of sugarcoating from Muskrats ITT

>>16701899
>now they have free reign
But nothing changed with the FAA?

Mr GPT told me one of the SLS RS25 engines costs more than a full starship stack. Is that true or is samas baby hallucinating again?

>>16701910
Yeah it's true

>>16701907
>I mean
gb2r

so what happens now?

>>16701913
stfu fag

>>16701909
Like they're still requiring investigations for the last flight failures.
All the test tank ground explosions didn't reauire investigations either

>>16701914
they fix the test stand and find out why the COPV exploded and keep testing

>>16701914
Another melty from the ‘Lon

>>16701912
kek then what is all this shitflinging even about? I knew oldspace was a joke, but this is completely insane.
Is anduril vs traditional arms suppliers similarly crazy? I feel like I need to buy some stocks

>>16701914
Two weeks resets, again.

>>16701921
Nah defense is a bit different. Everything is overpriced and there’s no incentive to undercut. Anduril products won’t be as good, and anything that IS as good or better than what boeing or lockmart or grumman or raytheon etc will be given the same price range contract.
If we go to war; buy. That’s true of everyone tho

>>16701383
Yes.

>>16701251
Imagine 1000 people in this pos when it exploded.

>>16701925
>no incentive to undercut
Yeah but if I as a potential investor and non-us taxpayer only care about company profitability that's a plus.

>>16701921
SLS is just especially egregious and also human rated and also not produced in any real numbers so it's not comparable

/sfg/ is ALIVE

>>16701939
Ship 36 status?

>>16701942
In a better place.

>>16701939
You could even say /sfg/ is EXPLODING

>>16701955
there was a fire still 1.5h ago

>>16701088
You could plug a hole in the ISS with your palm

>>16701939
Rapidly expanding post rate. It's on fire.

>>16701820
COPVing

>>16701934
You're confusing Starship with BFR

>>16701961
but i definitely saw a large xenomorph hybrid sucked out of a quarter sized hole. are you trying to tell me that movies dont always strive for scientific accuracy?

>>16701273
Holy shit you're right. He lost the mandate of heaven after the Christmas meltdown

>>16701971
>scorched tanks

>>16701273
>>16701968
Grim. Doesn’t help that he’s tweeting edgy atheist bioshock quotes. The hubris! He flew too close to the sun with his wax wings and God is enacting divine justice

>>16701814
ACAB
ALL COPV ARE BAD

>>16701871
He didn't say when.

>>16701979
He said "no gods" not "no God"

>>16701326
https://youtu.be/SibnQt-oh2g

>>16701873
snate

>>16701536
I already posted the article and I'm the one that posts the picture every day