Thread 16702534

Is this meme app useful för studies in math/physics?

>>16702534 (OP)
https://www.theregister.com/2025/06/18/is_ai_changing_our_brains/
The more you outsource to memory/thinking aides, the more your mind will atrophy.

>>16702540
Are you going to stop taking notes too?

I use it. It's hard to say whether it is *useful* in any sense, but it has far more potential to be useful than any note taking method I've encountered before.

Markdown has the perfect balance of expressibility and portability.

>>16702534 (OP)
Too many redundant features to keep track of when writing notes. I stopped using it for engineering after freshman year and didn't even bother using it past month 2 for medicine. You can use it if you want to make your notes pretty to read, but all the features like linking notes, putting them in folders, labelling them, etc. make your life harder for no reason.

>>16702540
The Syrians said this with the advent of farming and yet we got philosophy, mathematics, and physics in the Greek city states shortly afterward.

The Germans said this of the printing press and yet we leapt forward in all sciences in a very short period of time.

Naysayers of the Industrial Revolution said this over 100 years ago and yet we got an extremely higher standard of living and most of the technology we employ on a daily basis.

Others said this regarding modern computing and the internet, and yet times have never been better for the Human Race.

Edit: Thanks for the gold, kind stranger!

>>16702593
Can't stop what I never started.
Do you take notes on how to ride a bike?
Do you take notes on how to play your favorite vidya?

>>16702685
Just checking. Because you have to make sure to remember everything, no offloading things.

>>16702534 (OP)
No. Well, perhaps to organize research, but even that is a reach.
1. Do a lot of problems.
2. Take notes of your mistakes.
3. If you have time, rewrite the textbook/lecture/HW solution in your own words on latex. People who do this generally do well. Not the best student in class, but good enough. And kinda popular because lazy classmates will request it.

>>16702696
I'm not against codifying results or reading.
>no offloading things
When did I say that?
Very bad faith.

Every offload has a cost. Don't pretend they don't. Sometimes the gain is worth it. Other times it is not. Sometimes the cost is hidden/delayed.
>>16702653
Anon's mind is poisoned. He can only reason in shill fragments. Many such cases.

The scary thing about the AI trend is it is replacing the reasoning, not just data storage/fetch.
Most shitty software kinda exemplifies the cost already. We have codemonkeys using copy/paste incorporating flawed code into their own shit. It was happening before AI with stackexchange and github. There are also spooks/hackers putting out flawed code in the hopes that lazy retards will opt for the easy copy/paste option. Nobody would build flaws into AI though.

Most domestication relies on providing an easier option that seems to give equal or better quality of life in the short term.
The long term cost is usually cultural or genetic atrophy and some form of enslavement.
Have fun fighting over who gets the privilege to be the house negros.

>>16702786
>When did I say that?
Then you have no right to criticize organizing notes.

>>16702534 (OP)
retvrn to emacs

>>16702540
The fact that you linked this sham article is enough indication to everyone to just ignore you. Unfortunately, it was not the case

>>16702791
It's worse than I thought.
>criticize organizing notes
Where did I do that?
I said I didn't take notes.

I must be dealing with one of the pandemic reading comprehension retard zoomers.

>>16702883
Show where the sham is. MIT is still decent.

>>16702540
>With the paper yet to undergo peer review, Kosmyna noted that its conclusions "are to be treated with caution and as preliminary.

lol. lmao, even.

>>16702909
How is "The jury is out" equivalent to "sham"?

>>16702636
It would work for STEM if it had LATEX and pen support for touch-displays.
But to solve that without making it lag on phones is the challenge.
I use it to catalog medical literature though.
If anyone knows any plugins for this use-case let me know.

>>16702877
I really don't get why people would use stuff other than org-roam for this sort of thing.

>>16702967
They should, but emacs is intimidating, and obsidian probably has a marketing budget.

>>16702944
I'm not the anon who called it a sham but either way your entire argument hinges on preliminary studies that have yet to actually show or demonstrate anything meaningful. You parroting it just shows that you're either acting in bad faith or you're just really fucking stupid. All you have basically said in this thread is "Any note taking or AI tools will make your brain instantly atrophy" like it is plainly obvious to everyone here that you are making a fool of yourself

>>16702890
the sham is evident in retards like you who lack statistical and scientific hygiene

>>16702653
>times have never been better for the Human Race.
Citation needed

>>16702534 (OP)
Use Anki duh.

>>16702998
>show
he proceeds to show nothing

So because this study has not passed your HEURISTIC (which ironically involves outsourcing the study assessment to the "experts" for peer review), you declare it a sham?
Then in the future when an assessment is done, you will happily change your labeling from "sham" to "legit" even if nothing intrinsic to the study changes.
Where does the sham-ness really reside? In some boolean value in your religiously-held heuristic?

>>16702534 (OP)
>meme app
The fact you're asking suggests you're at risk of going down the datahoarder rabbit hole. Don't.
No system that requires you to spend more time studying and managing it than the contents it is supposed to organize will ever be helpful.

>math/physics
Just handwrite notes on the parts that don't seem obvious to you, and draw up a mock lecture in latex on a book or major part once you've worked through it.

>>16702653
>The Germans said this of the printing press
the germans also invented the printing press
almost as if all progress is useful for some but useless for most
the question is, who benefits the most from `P ? NP` and what do your mitochondria think?

>>16703251
When have you ever reviewed your notes?

>>16703255
Where the fuck did I mention review? The only value in notes is the effort you expend digesting and structuring the information.

>>16703260
You aren't the target audience.

>>16703251
This behavior is common in any activity.
You tend to see amateurs/newbies overly fixate on the gear as if it will magically make them better.
It might be ADHD derailing efforts to pseudopragmatic topics to avoid just putting in the time/effort.

>>16702534 (OP)
I very much enjoy using Trilium Next Notes, although I haven't used it for much math stuff. It does have LaTeX support.
I used to use Obsidian across 3+ devices (main pc at home, laptop, phone) and sync them for free using OneDrive.
Now Im running multiple server instances of triliumnext/notes on a raspberrypi -- only accessible from home but I could make it accessible outside with some sort of VPS or program like Tailscale or registering for a free TLS cert and allowing https access only

I'm rambling.
---
you can download it at the bottom of this page, in the "Assets" section:
https://github.com/TriliumNext/Notes/releases/tag/v0.95.0

TriliumNextNotes-v0.95.0-windows-x64.exe
https://github.com/TriliumNext/Notes/releases/download/v0.95.0/TriliumNextNotes-v0.95.0-windows-x64.exe


TriliumNextNotes-v0.95.0-macos-arm64.dmg
https://github.com/TriliumNext/Notes/releases/download/v0.95.0/TriliumNextNotes-v0.95.0-macos-arm64.dmg


TriliumNextNotes-v0.95.0-macos-x64.dmg (worked with my x64 bit Intel macbook)
https://github.com/TriliumNext/Notes/releases/download/v0.95.0/TriliumNextNotes-v0.95.0-macos-x64.dmg
---
Documentation is here:
https://triliumnext.github.io/Docs/

Also it's a bit of a naming clusterfuck right now. It used to be called Trilium Notes, then Trilium Next Notes. Now they are in the middle of migrating back to Trilum Notes but it seems the current owner is still undecided as to how to finalize that naming decision.
see:
https://github.com/orgs/TriliumNext/discussions/2190

if you need help installing it or setting up a server just reach out in this thread, this board moves slow.
whatever works for you is best, just wanted to share this with people in case they hadn't heard of it

>>16702534 (OP)
It's a tool. If it is useful depends on how you use it. And LaTeX strap-on exists if you're a masochist.

>>16702534 (OP)
>Is this meme app useful för studies in math/physics?
no

>>16702890
but it's not MIT, that's the thing

>>16703255
I don't think I have ever reviewed my notes.
I use note taking as a memorization tool and anything other than handwritten is too much effort.

>>16704187
You ever followed a recipe?

>>16702887
No mate you're just retarded.

>>16702653
>equating printing press and farming with ai
i expected better from this board

>>16704520
no

>>16702534 (OP)
It has a ton of "usefulness" but not necessarily a lot of "structure".

I'd compare it to Java. "Powerful", at least in the domain of people that aren't really into programming itself and want to use it for something. Med student taking notes on biochemistry.

As far as "cohesion", I wouldn't describe it as "bad", it's just not as robust as some kind of Unix box from 1998 that's based entirely on plain text.

7.5/10 aspberger points.

>>16702534 (OP)
> 1 gorrillion customizations, fonts, colors, themes, skins for a note taking program
no thanks i ll stick to notepad.exe coz it just works

>>16702534 (OP)
> 1 gorillion customizations, fonts, colors, themes, skins for a note taking program
no thanks i ll stick to notepad.exe coz it just works

I've been using it for a bit over a year for my PhD studies and I honestly can't say I've become more productive.
>>16703251
I feel like handwritten notes and structured LaTeX summaries have been more helpful for me. When I was doing my comps, I rewrote all my handwritten class notes in LaTeX as if I was making a textbook for undergrads. I'm still sometimes reusing the document to help students for classes I'm TA'ing.