Thread 16705134

What about aluminum cans? Is anything safe? Should I make a wooden cup?

>>16705134 (OP)
>aluminum cans

>>16705134 (OP)
And I thought that once automatic self-driving free deliveries became a thing people would start using glass again.

>>16705134 (OP)
Some nuance.
>The team found only 4.5 particles and 1.6 particles of microplastics per liter in glass and plastic bottles, respectively.
>In contrast, there were 60, 40 and 30 microplastics per liter in beer, lemonade and soft drinks, respectively.

Why?
>They theorized that “tiny scratches, invisible to the naked eye, probably due to friction between the caps when they were stored,” might subsequently “release particles onto the surface of the caps.”
By that logic we expect particle debris from any kind of friction between any kind of substance: from water running through pipes, from all sorts of cookware and utensils, from all packaging and storage containers, inhalation of fibre from the clothes you wear, particles from the flooring in your house and probably much more I haven't thought of.

But how novel is this threat? Does living in a natural environment also not ensure the ingestion and inhalation of tons of inflammatory particles? Or are forever chemicals the only threat in that category?

I'm not sure whether I should be scared and angry or not.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0889157525005344?via%3Dihub

>>16705134 (OP)
Metal cans are all lined with plastic. Polio was a result of metal cans not having plastic linings. The polio vaccine was introduced when it was already disappearing. But people believe big pharma propaganda for lucrative products so I'm basically committing blasphemy for all the gaytheists and fagnostics who "trust the experts" and actually think big pharma isn't 95% a racket and scam.

>>16705156
>thinking the oil industry would give up on any front

>>16705227
Oh look... another retarded anti-vaxer

>>16705134 (OP)
>aluminum cans?
micrometals
>wooden cup?
microsplinters
>drinking straight from the source
microbes
>synthesizing pure H2O in a lab, suspending it with lasers to not interact with anything and licking it off the air
microaggressions (you're privileged because the rest of us can't afford this)

>>16705801
https://youtu.be/SiJvRIyC7AE

>>16705227
>Polio was a result of metal cans not having plastic linings.
Classic.

>>16705892
Bold of you to assume seaweed doesn't contain microplastics

>>16705134 (OP)
>Glass is full of plastic, goyim! Buy plastic because it has less plastic in it!
Imagine believing this retarded nonsense for even one second.
The absolute state of academia in the 21st century.

>Worries about the imaginary detrimental effects of microplastics.
>Drinks alcohol and smokes pot because definitely no detrimental effects there!
The microplastics scare is what you get when retards who believe in "environmental justice" are allowed to publish in scientific journals.

>>16705209
Perhaps plastic rubbing against plastic does not have as much friction as plastic rubbing against glass, especially cheap glass.

I used to get my pop in glass bottles way back then. Those were the days.

>>16705789

Do you even read science?

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9350322/

The COVID-19 vaccines damage the fertility of your reproductive organs. Your balls.

You think "science" is a twitter screenshot from a news article written to get clicks for ad money.

The clot shot was basically a massive criminal eugenics program.

>>16706202
>T3 evaluation demonstrated overall recovery without. Semen volume and sperm motility were not impaired.

>>16705134 (OP)
glass is the only material that doesn't use plastic and doesn't react with most liquids. anything else, like aluminum has to have a plastic buffer to prevent the liquid from reacting with the metal and corroding it.
you want to reduce the amount of microplastics in sand, then you have to reduce he amount of macroplastics you use that inevitably get dumped into the ocean garbage patch.

>>16706202
>>16706204
Now I'd *almost* believe it's a failed eugenics experiment; temporarily impairing fertility seems like what'd happen if retarded glowie types *tried* to do that and quasi-failed.

>>16706202
it's a shame you can vote

>>16706202
This is not unexpected. The vaccines were well known to have induced short term immune reactions such as a fever. Sperm motility is typically temporarily affected when your immune system is active.

It's been 5 years anon, it's time to move on.

>>16706254
the big die off is just around the corner anon, just two more weeks!111

>>16706256
Two more weeks you say? Guess I'll just have to an hero now so I don't have to live through hell on Earth after society collapses. Looks like that's the only way out for anyone who didn't take the clotshot

>>16705134 (OP)
No matter what you do you are going to eat the plastic. It's in the rain and tribes in the Amazon have plastic in their blood.
The best thing we can do is ban plastics in every use case there are other options but capitalism says regulation is bad.

>>16706260
Tell us about how well the Soviet Union protected the environment and the people in it.
>GOTCHA! That's waddaboutism!
Unless you have a new alternative, examining the existing alternatives is required. We know what those alternatives look like from actual experience.

>>16706271
>hur dur the USSR
The classical liberalist nords with their socialist mixed market are the best for environmental protection.
As for good examples of classical liberalist economics working well you have the UK pre-80s, US pre-80s, Australia pre-90s, Scandinavia, Saudi Arabia and many more including the second largest economy on earth.

>pfas in rain water
>microplastics found in mariana's trench
>plasticizers everywhere

its comprehensively over

Ah, the narrative is already shifting from
>Jews put microplastics in my balls to turn me infertile
to
>Microplastics are a liberal sissy nanny state hoax, they fear the God-given freedom of real men who have a microplastic count of over 9000 from consuming solely American products
Makes sense, considering the fact that any solution that would seek to address this would have to limit the rights of corporations, so of course Fox News has already issued the talking points.

>>16706260
>>16706282
Aqua means water in Latin. You can see one of the bald band members littering plastic into water in the music video.

https://youtu.be/ZyhrYis509A

>>16706660
>crazy straw shaped like a pretzel
What did they mean by this?

>>16706198
>Pop
Iowa, Illinois, or Michigan?

HOW?

>>16705209
The more I read this result the more bullshit it seems. Honestly I think in time this will be shown to be bad research.

>>16706700
The machinery that fills the bottles is all plastic. That’s probably it.

>>16706708
I hate everything

>>16706700
Probably the same reason they gather scrap metal from pre-1945 shipwrecks for medical devices.

>>16706271
Warsaw Pact countries somehow had less teflon contamination than western countries, if only because they had none.

>>16706713
-ABOUT YOU

>>16705134 (OP)
That shit on his finger is not microplastic.
Even noticed they do not say what kind of plastic.
Watch this movie to know more.

>>16706660
>>16706671
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVZKGIfKjtE

>>16706978
> this movie

>>16706260
It's convenient that all of this micoplastic scaremongering also serves the purpose of killing the petrochemical and oil industries.

>>16706705

A twitter screenshot of a clickbait article is not science. People do not consider the motivations at work to misrepresent science and do not have the will or scientific literacy to read papers.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35713410/

It is why all those people took the clot shot even though the actual science says it harms your reproductive organs.

Because they read propaganda from their highly censored and astroturfed online neoliberal propaganda outlet and were manipulated and lied to. Fear gets clicks and views and is used to enforce state agendas. The incentives of money and power.

Not to mention pride. Many people are more afraid of appearing uninformed or unaligned with the group consensus than knowing the truth of a matter. Monumental arrogance.

My penis would be far larger if my mother wasn't affected by microplastics during the first week of gestation.
Microplastics are bad for you.

>>16705209
>By that logic we expect particle debris from any kind of friction between any kind of substance: from water running through pipes, from all sorts of cookware and utensils, from all packaging and storage containers, inhalation of fibre from the clothes you wear, particles from the flooring in your house and probably much more I haven't thought of.
I mean, yeah. Lead pipes, plastic cutting boards, plastic spatulas, non stick pans...

>>16705136
What's the point of the aluminum shell? Why not just sell soda in plastic cans if it's all the same?

>>16709901
>What's the point of the aluminum shell? Why not just sell soda in plastic cans if it's all the same?
It's cheaper to get the cans thin enough to contain expanding CO2 if they are plastic-metal hybrid compared to just plastic; the aluminum is much stronger and they'd have to be much thicker to hold the same pressure if they were only plastic.

>>16711356
Plastic bottles are cheaper than aluminum cans. The reason the aluminum can has a plastic or resin liner is so the soda doesn't burn trough the can or change it's taste with the chemical reaction, the plastic doesn't offer structural support. Cans primarily exists today because of legacy reasons not because they are cheaper. Early plastic bottles were kinda shit and expensive and cans had the first mover advantage being trendy and light and disposable vs the heavy glass bottle and coming to market decades before good plastic bottles did. Later plastic bottles basically replaced them in their mechanical and financial properties (though cans do retain certain advantage in stackability) but by then the concept of a can was too rooted both in peoples minds and perhaps more importantly major bottling plant infrastructure for people to fully switch to plastic bottles.

>>16708736
>also serves the purpose of killing the petrochemical and oil industries.
Oh no, not the petrochemical and oil industries!!! Who will care for the poor oligarchs?!

Nothing is safe, tradeoffs are a thing.