Everything is fine - edition

previous >>16705043

Remember Musk's melty?

>>16707947
I can't wait for Rubin to start its survey.

>>16707947
melties will happen every 3-6 months and its going to be fine

>>16707942 (OP)
What's the turnover for the tile team? Two weeks?
>>16707961
Stop unconcerned trolling

Went to the space subreddit. Holy crap, they don't post anything except how much they hate Elon. Why must absolutely everything be politicized... if you're a lefty?

>>16707969
They're generally just bad people, anon.

>>16707969
He did the evil arm thing

>>16707969
you went to the lefty website dumbass

>>16707965
melties have been happening in the past, people get upset for a few days or a week and then Musk keeps chugging along
nothing ever happens

>...we aren't getting 25 flights this year?

>>16707969
thats most of reddit in general when anything in any way related to Musk or his companies come up

I'm beginning to think that one poster is legitimately delusional, like as a medical condition

>>16707985
Anyone who expected 25 flights was delusional and needed to go to the infirmary.

When do you think various nations will get reusable rockets? My guess is

China-2025
Japan-mid 2030s
Europe-Late 2030s
Russia-early 2040s
India-Late 2040s

Booster Obsolence and Life Extension Demonstrator Motor-1!

>>16707942 (OP)
What do you feel when you see this picture?

>>16707969
r/Mars is just TDS/EDS karma farming from a few accounts and no actual discussion about Mars. The mods on that Subreddit deserve to be killed because there should be a dedicated forum to discussing Mars free of any deranged libtard shit.

>>16708002
Japan will never achieve anything.

>Staged combustion engine
>5 meter diameter core
>gets rid of the landing legs in favor of a tethered catch system
>3 stages, with the 3rd stage being hydrolox
>Still worse performance than the F9 and only slightly better than the FH

Looking deeper at the performance of the CZ-10, it's actually really really bad. The single stick LM-10A variant has substantially less payload than a F9, at 14 tons when reused and 18 tons expandable, with the triple core variant only carrying slightly more payload than the FH, 70 tons vs 63 tons, with the increase in payload almost certainly due to the LM-10's hydrolox 3rd stage.

CALT is utter dogshit, no wonder why China stagnated so hard in rocket technology for the last 20 years. For comparison, a whole bunch of the private chinese rocket company's F9 and FH clones have better performance, despite not having as large a diameter, not having staged combustion engines and still having landing legs. For example, Deep Blue aerospace's 5 meter diameter Nebula-2 is supposed to have a 25 ton payload to LEO, which fits into what I would expect of a 5 meter diameter rocket. I really have no idea how the LM-10's performance is so bad for a 5 meter diameter rocket. Are they using lead for the hull or something?

Kinda insane that CALT is doing worse than most of the private launch startups, despite having alot more experience, a lot more funding and a lot more time. I see now why China was stuck for so long on their old outdated hypergolic rocket fleet if their main rocket manufacturer is so incompetent. Oldspace is oldspace, despite the country I guess. With it's dogshit performance, I don't see the LM-10 or the single stick variant to be used for anything else other then it's human spaceflight missions, not unless CALT can upgrade the performance substantially.

>>16707969
>I went to a sewage plant
>How dare it stink
Dude, what did you expect from going there?

>>16708014
>r/[anything]
I find that any subs like this with a mainstream name are guaranteed to be dogshit
whereas r/rocketry and r/spacexmasterrace are actually quite good

>>16708022
Because it's not a real project, they were under a lot of pressure from the higher ups to '''create a reusable rocket asap''' so they repurposed lunar hardware for it.
There's another 5m RLV in the works that is optimized for reusability.

>>16708037
But even the expandable version payload is shit. I seriously don't get how you can take so many high quality rocket parts and still end up with such an under performing rocket. Was the optimizing process completely skipped?

And the private companies were also in an insane rush, started work around the same time or a lot later, and they still on track to delivering a better F9 clone, at an earlier date too.

>There's another 5m RLV in the works that is optimized for reusability.

I wonder if they will develop this into a FH triple core configuration variant , and convert it into their new human rated rocket if it offers a vast improvement in performance over the LM-10 and retire the CZ-10 ASAP once their new rockets are ready.

>>16707942 (OP)
I WANT ONE OF THE CERAMIC TILES SO FUCKING BADLY BROS IT'S UNREAL

>>16708045
The engines.
They are a gen or two behind so even though its an ORSC (and expander upper) the performance aren't that good. For example YF-100 is not rated to do very long burns like for example RD-180.
ULA calculated a 5.1m triple core Atlas (6 RD-180s) can put about 86t to orbit.

>>16708022
>gets rid of the landing legs in favor of a tethered catch system

Oh you actually believed LM10 will have reuse.

>>16708052
I though the YF-100K was supposed to be a major upgrade over the older YF-100s? With the CZ-12 and LM-10 being the first rockets to use it?
>>16708056
The single stick version will have it. The triple core version not so much, since it's mainly gonna to be used for lunar missions where it has to be launched in expandable mode. But with the LM-10A having such poor performance compared to the dozen other F9 clones, I don't see it launching much desu

>>16708003
>BOW LAY!
That's apparently the pronunciation of BOLE

>>16708013
anticipation

>>16707969
>Why must absolutely everything be politicized.
Are we forgetting the bit where he joined the government, then made a lot noise but ultimately failed to cut "3 trillion in waste"? And then instead of a graceful exit he decided to call his boss a paedo?

>>16708013
also inevitability

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sincLVbpw4w

KIWIBROS

>>16708050
Just buy them on eBay. I have 4

>>16708073
just shut up, dude.

>>16708079
Yeah he needs to stop concern trolling. None of that bad stuff actually happened. You know how I know? Because I'm also completely insane and disconnected from reality just like you

>>16707942 (OP)
https://www.esa.int/Applications/Observing_the_Earth/Meteorological_missions/meteosat_third_generation/Watch_MTG-S1_and_Sentinel-4_launch_live
>Watch MTG-S1 and Sentinel-4 launch live
>The live coverage is scheduled to start at 21:15 CEST. Launch with SpaceX on Falcon 9 is expected at 23:03 CEST.

>>16708082
Your meds, sir.

So Nasa is getting gutted
Elon's SpaceX is in bad attitude with Trump over EV gibs

How does this help Space Exploration?
ESA should just grab all the fired and lunch from Finland and Norway during northern lights skys

>>16708083
>earth satellite
Who the fuck cares

>>16708111

>>16708112
thanks for letting me know it gets you mad. I'll keep posting more links of earth sat launches.

>>16708112
Good to watch for the suppressed seething that ESA can't yet launch their own satellites on time. It was funny when they couldn't bear to say "SpaceX Falcon", but kept calling it "the launcher".

>>16708022
Do you know the fairing size on that thing? I looks incredibly small.

>>16708075
ooooh, engine audio of the 2nd stage cutoff. Nice touch, would be nice to hear that from other launch providers.

>>16708003
failed

>>16708111
>>16708113
damn. this convinced me.
I just bought the deluxe edition for myself and gifted several of my fellow space enthusiast friends a basic copy as well. We are all ecstatic to to try this out!

>>16708121
It looks small because the LM10 is actually a very tall rocket.

Northtop G just started a brush fire in Utah on testing

>>16708113

>>16708133

>>16708129
Nice! Where did you buy it? Steam?

Nozzle failure

Elon using Spacetown to steal American's property rights. Like a good Boer:

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/space/article/starbase-zoning-youtube-spacex-20392312.php

>>16708141
You subscribe to the houston chronicle? It's paywalled.

>>16708128
>"whoa"

>>16708131
>>16708139
Damn. Is this for BOLE??

>>16708139
>Booster Obsolescence
you can say that again

>>16708139
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

>>16708139
>>16708150

Why can't we build engine nozzles that don't explode anymore?

>>16708139
>>16708150

>>16708144
use adblock nigga

>>16708141

>>16708156
Worry not, the Chinese will take humanity to the stars.

>>16708163

>>16708165

>>16708166

>>16708144

My ad block went thru okay.

Summary: SpaceX grinding down the Pad Watchers community and not being subtle about it either. Next come the police with their sjambok.

>>16708156
You know the answer.
>>16708164
Red Moon. Red Mars. Red Stars.

>>16707961
sometimes you must chimp

>>16708150
>>16708139
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1938315369674068317

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1938322502880465090

response to the mexico president whining

>>16707969
You went to a controlled propaganda site and found out there were propaganda?

>>16708164
not if their only payload is chinese people

>>16708196

Was Space Force expecting to have those launched on Starship? Because might be a problem there.

>>16708206
No. Tranche 3 was cancelled due to lawsuits from other companies for some reason. It happened a while ago I think. This is just to utilize already existing Starshield that SpaceX had launched a while ago. So now they want the contracts to be given to SpaceX proper since it already works

>>16708197
I can't believe that after proving time and again that he's a narcissistic sociopath who doesn't know the first thing about space, you retards still worship grifter musky. Musky did a stinky you better clean his image up marstranny

>>16708214
Troon melty

>>16708133
>CSMslop
Ghastly

Fuck you.

Idiot

spaceflight

>>16708214
>you either have to replace reality with a schizophrenic fantasy that's meant to self-soothe you like a baby or you like musk
yes that is indeed exactly how redditors act, maybe go back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONSwneu2tlQ

>>16708150
Northrop Grumman statement: [The SLS Block 2] BOLE lost nozzle integrity and had an observation at +1:53 into today's test.

liquid rockets use the unburnt propellant to cool the nozzle. solids should do the same.

>>16708230
>SLS Block 2

wen nutron

>>16708237
>to be used for Artemis 9

https://x.com/thejackbeyer/status/1938342841195040888
>Close up slow motion footage of the unexpected event(s) during Northrop Grumman’s BOLE DM-1 stb test today.

I don't feel like making the webm

>>16708227
A narcissist's delusional fantasies will always crumble. Always. Truth is incompatible with space colonization.

fuck you

>>16707969
>>16707982
>>16708014
>>16708030
This shit honestly scares me because the US does constant predictable partisan swings (No, your party is not going to hold the majority forever because the other party is retarded, we have literally had this conversation twenty times) and the next partisan swing is going to see all of the "Wealthy, educated, correct-thinking people" just flat out vote to ban space travel. The simplest way will be to treat it like a machine gun license, set the FAA up so that no one will ever be allowed to launch a rocket in the US again except for ULA once every 24 months. Pat each other on the back on how safe and professional that is, and how much funding can be redirected to social spending, because as Bernie Sanders said on his campaign site, "We should worry about fixing the problems on earth before we start messing around in space again"

>>16708280
It's a good thing there are competent nations like China taking the helm then. If you want to bow to kikes and babysit niggers for a living, then you hand the Moon and Mars to China, and you'll be happy about it.

>>16708232
see you tomorrow for Rocket Lab's fourth launch of the month! (Remember when Russia launched more than New Zealand?)

Never ever

this is why we test

>>16708280
no i think starlink changed things. large constellations of satellites offer all kinds of benefits and opportunities, so politicians will want to keep them around, which will mean plenty of launches in the future. manned spaceflight and space colonization though? yeah i could see the left bringing the hammer down hard on the industry, killing the baby in the crib.

Like actually fuck SRBs, useless

>>>/pol/508817645

Are they right? Is Mars a pipe dream? Is becoming an interstellar species just not possible? Do we have to deal with the planet we're given until conditions become unfavourable and nature deems us finished? There has to be more than that. We are too beautiful.

>>16708312
You must go back

>>16708280

>>16708312
yeah I'm sure the people who think space is fake and gay have very worthwhile opinions on space colonization

>>16708312
That's a containment board, newfren.

s p e h s
p
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s

Fuuck you.

>>16708345
snow launches are so kino

>>16708196
I gotta imagine some of this piggybacks off the starlink network itself too.

>>16708150
How does observation get to be such an evergreen meme? What the fuck is Norgrum doing?

>>16708345

>>16708349
Prob but military network/Starshield is its own thing as well for dedicated service

>>16708288
Rocket Lab still hasn't achieved one Falcon 9's worth of payload total, across all their launches.

>>16708360
is MILNET a government-assigned name? Or did spacex come up with it

>>16707957

Gonna have to wait. The rest of this year is test and calibration. Then a set of two year surveys, that will eventually be released as public catalogs. First of those are years away.

Everything else is "proprietary" and the Science Gollums are holding on to that. We get to see the data maybe never. Maybe eventually if it was paid for by funds with a release deadline. Enjoy your press release Science.

Aside from that, there is an alert system, so Rubin might let us know before the asteroid hits. Maybe not.

Oh no! Artemis 9 is ruined!

>>16708251
wen nova

>>16708312
/pol/ is full of anti space glowniggers

>>16708378
>starship is kill
>sls is kill
save us blue origin!

>>16708264

Stop subsidizing the bottom line of zionist billionaires and fund Artemis. NASA has a proven record and the NSF still produces Nobel laureates. This may require a change of government.

>>16708444

Rocketry is involved in changing governments.

>>16708442
kino
waste of my tax dollars
but kino

>>16707969
He might have gotten trump elected which led to the gutting of a nasa science and V2 starship has been a disaster. Things look really bad right now.

>>16708444
NASA had its chance to get rid of DEI but they wanted to virtue signal so they tripled down and dared anyone to do something about it. Now there are consequences for that.
NASA's responsibilities are being split apart between commercial and the Space Force. Let JPL take over the science stuff they already mostly do anyway. NASA has little reason to exist anymore as its own agency. Let the specialized agencies do the specialized work.

sugoi!

>>16708454
Has there ever been a field so over and so back as rocketry?

>>16708475
I would cum inside her 10 times

>>16708484
>her

>>16708304
>large constellations of satellites offer all kinds of benefits and opportunities
you do realize that if the rate of increase in the number of LEO satellites over the last 5 years is sustained that by the year 3000 the earth will receive ZERO light from the sun, right? TOTAL SUN BLOCKAGE due to short sighted people like you and Musk.

>>16708500
@grok ia this true?

>>16708500
global warming status? solved

https://x.com/rookisaacman/status/1938401697933758498

https://x.com/boringcompany/status/1938042215387041985

>>16708500
topkek

Chucks of Starship that got blasted over The Wall into Mexico being retrieved like a frisbee stuck on the roof.

"What's Spanish for Oopsie?"

>>16708578
why is the mexican military stealing starship parts?

>>16708583
Why do you think?

>>16708582
Ay caramba

>>16708582
callate, gringo

Northrop Grumman said the BOLE static fire test went above and beyond, generating thrust exceeding 4M lbf. While the observation was unexpected, it is a new design and provided valuable data for iterative development.

>>16708129
Pretty hard to buy it when it's free.

>>16708582
¡Ayyy, dios mio!

>>16708559
Since when are Gemini, Shuttle and SLS planets?

the fuck is this, /sfg/

https://spacenews.com/trumps-one-big-beautiful-bill-would-give-space-force-a-nearly-40-billion-budget/

>>16708578
OH NOES LOOK AT WHAT EEBIL NAHTZEE DID
(no you can not come over to clean it up yourself, then we wouldn't be able to kvetch about it)
>>16708582
that'll buff right out, just throw it on the COPV pile
>>16708583
so they can buy more fentanyl from the chinks

>>16708616
pebbles, brilliant

>>16708615
Goku’s gainztation

>>16708612
kek

>>16708616
I believe it was homer hickham who said Space Force should go out and build outposts in the moon and mars right? Use their huge budget to establish landing pads and infrastructure and living quarters / small cities? Then the civilians could come and start a small-scale economy and scientific research. Makes sense, and gives a white pill for human exploration when NASA’s own budget is shrinking

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1938564881919386041

>>16708622
>Peter "I defer to Israel" Thiel

>>16708622
Peter Thiel convinced him to fix Earth first? Wow, that's wildly consistent. What a rat. I wish Elon had a better sense for these things.

>>16708615
a radome?

>>16708616
>most of the additional Space Force funding from reconciliation — $13.5 billion — would flow to the Research, Development, Test & Evaluation account, with an additional $300 million designated for procurement
wow so they arent getting any weapons or equipment? its all going to contractors like lockheed? what a joke.

>>16708622
Two more decades.

The reality is that China is on the brink of total collapse and once they do collapse, the resulting global economical shock-waves and the loss of a peer competitor means that America is gonna to cancel all their Lunar/Mars mission and most space related R&D and missions. We're never ever getting off this rock. Artemis III is never gonna to happen.

fuck you

>>16708631
I highly doubt they'll collapse. All the fictional economic stuff is extremely easy to manipulate if you have complete control of it, along with a billion people and the Earth's manufacturing base. I'm no sinophile (though I've been accused of something similar) but I have to say imagining any impactful collapse is a fantasy. Sure low trust in institutions may slow down investing and consumption but a usual chink cycle collapse where a hundred million of them get eaten? I don't see it

>>16708631
Peter zeihan has predict all 12 of the last 0 chinese collapses.

https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1938588972453859572

https://arstechnica.com/features/2025/06/trump-budget-kills-nasas-golden-opportunity-to-see-a-killer-asteroid-up-close/
>A little less than four years from now, a killer asteroid will narrowly fly past planet Earth. This will be a celestial event visible around the world—for a few weeks, Apophis will shine among the brightest objects in the night sky.
>NASA has some options for tracking Apophis during its flyby. However, the most promising of these, a mission named OSIRIS-Apex that breathes new life into an old spacecraft that otherwise would drift into oblivion, is slated for cancellation by the Trump White House's budget for fiscal year 2026.
>Other choices, including dragging dual space probes out of storage, the Janus spacecraft, and other concepts that were submitted to NASA a year ago as part of a call for ideas, have already been rejected or simply left on the table. As a result, NASA currently has no plans to study what will be the most important asteroid encounter since the formation of the space agency.

>>16708667
>And that was the plan until the Trump administration released its budget proposal for fiscal year 2026. In its detailed budget information, the White House provided no real rationale for the cancellation, simply stating, "Operating missions that have completed their prime missions (New Horizons and Juno) and the follow-on mission to OSIRIX-REx, OSIRIS-Apophis Explorer, are eliminated."
>It's unclear how much of a savings this resulted in. However, Apex is a pittance in NASA's overall budget. The operating funds to keep the mission alive in 2024, for example, were $14.5 million. Annual costs would be similar through the end of the decade. This is less than one-thousandth of NASA's budget, by the way.

>>16708578
>>16708582
I like how even reddit was saying Mexico should shut the fuck up since they literally have sewer pipes pointed at the US

>>16708675
lol

>>16708667
>a killer asteroid will narrowly fly past planet Earth
Sure
"past", definitely not "into"

>>16708667
China's on it

https://x.com/jswartzphoto/status/1938594244492710251

SN31 raptor v3 now

>>16708687
wo whats going on with these fucking gay unfinished engines? are theya ctually going to stick them ona rocket and fly without blowing up this time?

>>16708667
>>16708686
whats the point?
>ohhh interesting... this asteroid that we wrongly predicted could have hit earth... looks exactly like every other asteroid
>good thing i spent billions on this!

>>16708716
yeah, it's not as if an asteroid that happens to come near earth is going to necessarily have extra scientific value compared to one further out. It's just somewhat easier to get to

>>16708717
they should do a better job explaining the scientific value

>>16708667
>—for a few weeks, Apophis will shine among the brightest objects in the night sky.
How about some numbers? Mag -2, -1, 0, what?

>>16708724
>The asteroid Apophis will make its closest approach to Earth on April 13, 2029, passing within approximately 31,600 kilometers (19,600 miles) of Earth's surface. During this close approach, Apophis is expected to reach an apparent magnitude of 3.1
Pathetic lol

https://x.com/JoeTegtmeyer/status/1938357943768117431

>>16708719
>>16708717
it gets so close to earth that earth gravity might deform it (or not, depending if its a ball of gravel or a singular rock)
that was the scientific value I gathered from this

so easy to get to but also a somewhat unique situation for an asteroid as well

>>16708725
so it gets closer than Geostationary, kind of close

>>16708725
>April 13, 2029
And it's a Friday, lol

https://x.com/RGVaerialphotos/status/1938617585001504947

>>16708731
My birthday too

>>16708687
>31st engine
>still doesn't work

>>16708747
how do you know it doesn't work?

>>16708748
If Raptor 3 worked, then they would be mounted on new Ships

>>16708751
wrong

>>16708751
Raptor 3 in incompatible with Ship V2

>>16708565
judging by the shadows it took this thing no less than 5 days to move the length of a parking lot. is this really the state for the art for tunnel boring? why is it so damn slow?

>>16708754
I think the limiting factor was heat or something, not sure

>>16708753
WRONG

>>16708756
lol this doesn't mean anything

>>16708756

Sorry, but the last two V2 will never get Raptor 3. Side is wrong about that.

The slide also says Elon is getting to Mars. That's not happening either.

what's the grimmest thing that is happening right now in spacelfight?

>>16708814
The two week wait

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FASMejN_5gs new neuralink

>>16708816
grim

https://x.com/neuralink/status/1938643490600276142

>>16708687
Raptor 3, my beloved..

>>16708756
anyone just find spacex presentations amusing at this point?
(yeah yeah i know, one launch per day, 7000 satellites, blah blah)

>>16708831
it's a broken record

>>16708817
he is stuttering WAY less

>>16708717
easier to get to, yet the program will still be billions overbudget. hmmm

>>16708835
he has the neuralink public speaking add-on

>>16708578
>>16708582
Are these "volunteers" going to keep everything they can get their hands on, or are they going to return it to SpaceX?

>>16708835
Maybe he's finally off the sauce

>>16708834
gay
just go to space
non sociopaths are not as desperate for an answer to this

>>16708831
All corporate presentations are like that. Always a bunch of nothing to fool investors.

https://x.com/RGVaerialphotos/status/1938640006886645989

>>16708878

>literally anywhere else on 4chan if there is a space thread it's filled with flerfers
I don't get it.

>>16708883
Trolling, obnoxiously.

>>16708884
I guess it works. those threads always get lots of replies.

>>16708886
That and
>nukes are fake
>apollo faked
Always get replies, year after year.

>>16707942 (OP)
Colonizing asteroids is more important than colonizing Mars. When we know how to colonize asteroids, we will be able to colonize interstellar objects and use them to go to other star systems.

>>16708888
considering 30 million Chinese once died because someone claimed they were Jesus's brother, I really am not surprised by idiocy of any type

>>16708889
Yeah bro let’s go colonize desmos OOPS jumped a bit too hard and now I’m floating away into the black void

>>16708898
Just use a hand thruster which fits in a pocket to go back.

>>16708898
>jumped
don't worry, your muscles will be too atrophied for that

>>16708889
Colonizing mars and the moon is a step to colonizing asteroids, a significantly harder task. Honestly unless someone figures out immortality i dont expect to see the last one in my lifetime. I do have a hope to see a moon colony, however

>>16708889
Imagine colonizing rogue planets passing near our solar system.

>tfw right as we get close to going back to moon/mars the tech for robots to do the job well is inching closer to parity with humans

>>16708901
kek

>>16708898
this is a good thing actually. when you aren't in a gravity well you don't need a skyscraper sized bomb to get off your base

>>16708911
>that will be $100k+tip.
>if you hire a robot maintenance specialist from us we will grant you an additional 33% discount on monthly replacement parts!

>>16708889
>we will be able to colonize interstellar objects and use them to go to other star systems

>>16708917
>that will be $100k+tip.
pays for itself in 3 years plus won't steal from you

>>16708155
an /sfg/ classic

>>16708924
>pays for itself in 3 years
>breaks in 2

>>16708927
Hahah

>>16708878

> mass graves

Elon trying to hide the evidence.

new eager

What are the best resources/books for learning about orbital mechanics? I just can't wrap my head around it (I'm 134 IQ so I'm not dumb).

>>16708965

>>16708965
>134 iq
I have 139, retard

>>16708965
Fundamentals of Astrodynamics and Applications.
Then just read every NASA paper on the subject.
FYI an undergrad designed this mission.

>>16708965
kerbal space program

Anastasia Burchuladze (Lavochkin propulsion engineer, 2024 Roscosmos cosmonaut selection) got married recently during her cosmonaut training... Now she's Anastasia Meremkulova

>>16709006
high-quality /sfg/ content

>>16708754
>is this really the state for the art for tunnel boring?
Believe it or not, it is

>>16709024
Why not turn a Starship 360 and fire it so it will dig a hole?

>>16709029
>does a 360 and tunnels away

any BOLE news? is it a shit?

>>16709006
why even live?

mars needs men like Tom Crean

> Mexican scientist María Elena Álvarez-Buylla Roces condemned Elon Musk's SpaceX following a recent rocket explosion that resulted in the deaths of several marine animals off the coast of Tamaulipas, in northern Mexico.

> "Unacceptable!" Álvarez-Buylla Roces, a professor of molecular genetics at National Autonomous University of Mexico, wrote in an X post last week. "The debris from a failed SpaceX experiment, one of Elon Musk's companies, threatens life in Northern Tamaulipas."

> "How long will we allow the greed of a few to marginalize the majority and endanger or destroy life and our planet?" she added.

>>16709057
as if hispanic women weren't annoying enough

>>16709057
oh no, not the several marine mammals.

>>16709057
wait, I thought Elon Musk had nothing to do with SpaceX, and that it was the engineers who did all the work, now he is the sole responsible, what gives??

>>16709060
the musk superposition principle

>>16708891
We are all brothers in Christ

>>16709059

Actually SpaceX is murdering Flipper, Gamara and the Little Mermaid. Elon is the Apex Predator of the ecosystem of the Gulf of America.

>>16709057
>make a whole ass news article about a random tweet
modern journalism is joke tier

>>16709068
the amount of X screenshots as OP image on literally every board on 4chins shows how powerful X is even if it is a bot infested shithole

>>16709068
The bar is so low it’s unreal. Step 1 be jewish, step 2 get hired by a jew, step 3 write anti-elon slop

>>16709069
thats just shitposting though. we expect more of journalism.

>>16708911
I won't use these unless they communicate in beeps and boops and have a sassy attitude

>>16709072
>we expect more of journalism.
do we?

>>16708965
Buzz Aldrin's PhD thesis

>>16709068

> random tweet!

Mexican Lady is a big wheel down South:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar%C3%ADa_Elena_%C3%81lvarez-Buylla_Roces

>>16709076
for me,

>>16709060
The planet has billions of people, not just you and one other person commenting on Musk.

>>16709079
Didn’t they call him Dr Dock or something like that?

>>16709085
It’s funny to me how for like five years /sfg/ has had occasional spats on bush vs obama, who cut the budget, who killed constellation, was it a good idea, etc.
Who was a “good” space president. Who was a “bad” space president.
And now, we have Trump 2.0, who absolutely just fucking nuked NASA. Pretty obvious it’s shitty

>>16709094
trvth.

>>16709094
>And now, we have Trump 2.0, who absolutely just fucking nuked NASA

In China trump is called the great nation builder (of China) because of how he just keeps nuking the US and forcing chinoids to make and do their own shit.

>>16709091
Dr Rendezvous

>>16709103
Ahh that’s it, yes. Buzz is cool. Hope he can tough it out long enough to see us go back to the Moon in a Starship

NASA taping over the original apollo 11 negatives is actually retarded

>>16709120
it's just the shitty TV camera footage, we have good scans of the rest. Blame Bean for Apollo 12 if you actually care about loss of Apollo film lol

>>16709122
Kek didn't he immediately point his lens at the sun and fuck up the camera?

>>16709122
I’m pretty sure it’s the pivotal moment of actually stepping foot on the surface for the first time and the negative was clear, but what we were left with was shitty twice-filmed grainy bootleg shit. Because everyone just saw it on their tiny tube television and it was a marvel for its day. No one labeled the reel as IMPORTANT DO NOT TOUCH and cared to go re-scan them

That fireball filmed a few days ago has been confirmed as a metor, broke up over georgia. A house sustained random aerial damage (coin-sized object punched through a residential roof), they believe it was debris

>>16709057
>Mexican scientist

>>16709142
heheh

>>16709097
That's good though. We're pro china

Maybe this will get Elon's attention.

>>16709148
420 XD (get it??)

final H-IIA rolling out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg3beWmORmw

>>16709155
oh yeah Japan has orbital rockets.

>>16709155
>H-IIA
Final H-II launch EVER. Goodbye.

>>16709157
maybe it's time for the... H-IIB rocket

>>16709157

>>16709069
The really funny part is that 4chan banned twitter threads for a few years after newspapers all moved to blithely repeating whatever anyone says on twitter in lieu of journalism

But might want to fill up the car tonight just in case.

>>16709190
I'll charge my Tesla to 100%

>>16709190
i'll hydrofuck my fuel cell vehicle

NEA Scout was actually a cool idea, too bad it fucked up like all other cubeshit sats

Did they forget to stream this launch?

>>16709006
Why doesn't America have astronauts like this? I thought we were supposed to be the master race?

>>16709217
There is very little overlap between the obtuse doctor lawyer indianchief phd-holding GI Joe navy seal medic doctor requirement that NASA demands, and people who are actually cute.

>>16709148
oh the weedmanity

Normies can't even begin to comprehend the significance of the Apollo missions. Imagine how it must have felt to be the only men to walk on another world. To experience the low gravity and vacuum of space. To see the entirety of Earth looming in the sky above your head. It's literally impossible.

>32nd reuse of a fairing half on tonight's Starlink launch
who'd have ever guessed that fairings would be the most reused component of a launch vehicle?

>>16709222
iron men in aluminum spacecraft

>>16709225
reminds me of a game from when I was a kid, I always liked the name: "Wooden Ships and Iron Men"

GOODNIGHT SFG

https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/1938820105510756760
>This is what is moving during the "Ringwall Transport" road delay tonight at Starbase.
>6/27/25

they're just going to static fire the ship on the OLM lol

>>16709240
which ship?

>>16709224
I still really want to get strapped to the inside of one in a pressure suit and ride it down to the ocean

>>16709240
Sensible

>>16709243
ship 37, it's already had cryo testing done

>>16709240
I was wondering if it was possible to static fire on launch pad

>>16709256
it'll be the most hacked together shit you'll see but it can be done

>>16709240
So have they inspected every COPV they have?

>>16709256
Sure but the risk to the very expensive launch pad is too great to even attempt.

>>16709264
The risk is always there, during launches, during catches.

>>16709263
Replaced with steel

>>16709263
They added a note to each COPV "do not bonk"

>>16709240
>where we're going we dont need "test stands"

>>16709265
So add even more risk? If you're trolling, please stop. If you really don't understand, please take a few seconds to think about it.

I just like rockets

>>16709240
We're so back

>>16709260

we're in for some kino boys

>>16709317
The show must go on

>>16709317

Glad they took the time to do a though accident investigation and remediation.

/sfg/ has lost the will to live

>>16709335
YOLO

> a ship transport stand was moved to the Launch Site tonight, and all the speculation on Social Media is welding it to the OLM and doing the static fire with some fuel line rig-up between the Booster QD and the Ship mounting plate.

If an asteroid was headed toward Earth and we had to launch a mission to destroy it to save the planet -- sure.

But what's with this unending series of half assedry at SpaceX? Rushing is only breaking things faster.

i hate how everyone is using the term COPV now

>>16709363
They can't afford delaying for months just because of static fire.

> The ship transport stand has been parked near pad 1 and there is a lot work activity on the launch mount tonight. It looks like this could potentially be for creating a new temporary Starship static fire test stand on the pad 1 launch mount.

"Here's Mars Guy slowly shaking his head for scale."

>>16709360
guh

>>16709368

Why? What schedule are they so desperate to meet? Elon's impossible bs promises? None of those are happening anyway and blowing stuff up is just pushing them farther out.?

Government deadline? Don't think there's anything there that can't be moved out.

Investors? No.

>>16709374
Because the longer starship can't carry payload the more money it burns.

>>16709374
because elon doesn't like wasting time

>>16709375

None of this is getting Starship flying. The program is going backward. And I'd SpaceX is facing a cash crunch, how did that happen?

>>16709376
what has he done in the past six months?

>>16709374
Because some of us are actual humans with Faustian spirit and not just mindless kikes who only care about line go up and we want to see progress being made NOW.

https://mars.nasa.gov/raw_images/1474795/?site=msl

What the hell is this?

>>16709382

> Don't run a business like a business! Baby wants his spaceship now! Whaaa!

Oh, you're a child. You should have said.

>>16709382
and where was your faustian spirit when starship started stagnating and blowing up? sucking elon's cock, I presume?

>>16709383
Mind your business

>>16709379
absolutely nothing, its just a coincidence that all of his companies are progressing rapidly

>>16709383
Looks awfully big for a cosmic ray track, and the triangular symmetrical bit looks both off axis and like it has some angle respecting depth to it.

>>16709374
What do you expect to happen if they sit on their asses instead

>>16709389
Mars *is* my business

>>16707969
Everyone with an IQ of more than 50 dislikes Elon

>>16709416
you're a NPC

>>16709385
>childlike wonder is bad!!
>you must suppress your enthusiam and be a stoic wageslave like me!!
No.

>Incidentally, in our scientific operations in the Antarctic, we deliver to the Antarctic about 50,000 tons a year
https://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/basicdesign.php
Erm....

>>16709416
What the fuck
>>16709416
Dumb people do tend to follow the crowd, sure.

>>16709371
When will Melon Clunk finally get his rocket working chaps?

>>16709416

>>16709390
>progress
may I see it?

>>16709246
didn't Copenhagen Suborbitals plan to do that?

>>16709439
Yeah right after they cut your head off

>>16709436
this is what midwits actually believe

https://x.com/NewEnglandAstro/status/1938693147262882054

a source told that the failed COPV might have been the wrong COPV
SpaceX is actively considering alternative static fire methods (I guess just doing it on the OLM lol)

why is there no failsafe for the copv? why is there no failover in case a copv fails? did all the good engineers quit spacex? this is basic stuff.

>no StarLink launch coverage
>no Rocket Lab launch coverage
/sfg/ is dead

Audio from the Electron second stage was neat: let you hear all the important launch events, 1st stage shutdown and separation, 2nd stage start and shutdown, and Photon separation.

>>16709448
sfg stands for starship flight general

>>16709437
>robotaxi pilot launched a week ago in Austin
>model y delivered autonomously yesterday
>v2 neuralink surgical robot
>cadence between neuralink implants has increased to a week between users now and they have 7 patients now
>starlink direct to cell went into wide release in the US
>starship heavy booster reused
>built the biggest single coherent AI data center for xAI called colossus
>trained a SOTA LLM (grok 3)
>grok 4 is going to be SOTA and releasing in a week
>boring company vegas loop added like 4 stations

probably missed some and of course there is progress even without "shipping" something

>>16709449
you mean Starship Failure Guaranteed

Its so over for crapship and Felon Clunk.

>>16709448
>no StarLink launch coverage
make it stop

I just want to be an adventurer in an intergalactic empire within the next few years.
Is that really so much to ask? If it takes much longer I will rate Elon one star on the app.

>>16709451
you mean space fans gooning

Another day, another Raptor 3 blows
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJT_5RbcTOE

Don't lie to me, are we going to make it to Mars on 2026?

>>16709474
No.

>>16709474
My gut says no but honestly if you factor in the progress made from the last three flights and look at the work currently being done at starbase I think the answer is fuck no

>>16709474
Maybe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FA6BCIWPJ30

>>16709481
Pseudo faggot who takes ordinary object, overly-designs them and sells them as “le futuristic”

Wait so how do hydraulics work in space? Does the fluid not get too cold and freeze, or too hot and boil?

>There is a political dimension of getting “Back to the Future.” You can’t — this is a conversation I had with Elon back in 2024, and we had all these conversations. I had the seasteading version with Elon where I said: If Trump doesn’t win, I want to just leave the country. And then Elon said: There’s nowhere to go. There’s nowhere to go.
>And then you always think of the right arguments to make later. It was about two hours after we had dinner and I was home that I thought of: Wow, Elon, you don’t believe in going to Mars anymore. 2024 is the year where Elon stopped believing in Mars — not as a silly science tech project, but as a political project. Mars was supposed to be a political project; it was building an alternative. And in 2024 Elon came to believe that if you went to Mars, the socialist U.S. government, the woke A.I. would follow you to Mars."
https://archive.ph/f0Cp1

>>16709474
>are we going to make it to Mars on 2026?
No, it was not happening after 2nd V2 failure.

>WAI

Why is there no billionaire with an actual autistic passion for spaceflight? Why are they all lazy kikes?

>>16709441
>midwit
You're giving them too much credit. These guys are nitwits. Halfwits. Dimwits.

Clear live for H-IIA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP9sHng0jd8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP9sHng0jd8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP9sHng0jd8

>>16709448
>>16709461
I'm sorry I haven't been around to post launch stream links, I've been busy doing grad student shit

https://x.com/eager_space/status/1938975491404566834
>Based on a response to the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GQO-1V0pdg

>>16709519
Any non gay streams?

>>16709487
Yeah it's a huge unsolved problem at the moment. Enthusiasts handwave it away saying we'll use motors and screws. I'm sure as soon as there's demand Caterpillar will expand on some research paper from 1997 or something and whip up a prototype

>>16709474
No, and it wasn't happening even if everything went perfectly from when it was announced
>>16709525
fuck you

>>16708716
You do realize there's a huge variety of asteroid types right?
We've only ever managed to sample return missions despite them being a the closest objects to earth besides the moon

https://x.com/RGVaerialphotos/status/1938976613678624877

>>16709525
International Rocket Launches: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZGI6hg-G5g

>>16709538
>place, japan!
Okay but why is japan so stereotypically clean? Everything always looks meticulously perfect. Even nature itself. Perfectly tended grass and trees

>>16709443

The best part is wrong part.

>>16709404

> Why is everyone just sitting around? Go outside and blow something up. And kill some endangered species while you're at it.

>>16709546
Mexicans aren't endangered species, though

>>16709519
>>16709518
what's the major differences between H-II and the replacement H3?

>>16709551
like everything

liftoff

>>16708287
>chyna
>competent
Lol fuck off wumao. How is that zero coof lunacy treating you. Still welded inside your apartment. You know, the coof you incompetent boobs unleashed from your wuhan biolab because janny decided to sell testing bats in the local wet market lmao

>>16709535
okay and what was the benefit from those samples?

so two weeks?
a week to retrofit the OLM for ship static fire
then static fire one engine and 6 engine on back to back days and then a few days to roll out the booster and stack them and check everything is okay for launch

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/26/spacex-crane-collapse-in-texas-being-investigated-by-osha.html

https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/1939000001566232604
>View of the launch complex this morning with the newly arrived ship transport stand parked near pad 1.
>6/28/25

>>16709558
probably 2-3 weeks to niggerrig the OLM for ship static fires

>>16709554
and mission success. Sayonarra, H-IIA

>>16709561
It was sabotage.

>>16709569

Vehicle that blows up running tests on an improvised fixture with ad hoc procedures. Don't see any potential problems there.

>>16709561
Maybe Elon should go back to DOGE. He seems to be bad luck now.

>>16709575
the tower is obsolete anyway for v3 purposes

>>16709585

V2 is also obsolete. So, why do any of this meaningless fire drill?

NB4 Muh Data!

>>16709461
>hehehehe NO
and another successful starlink launch from Vandenberg

>>16709592
why do they launch at all? yes data, fucking retard

>>16709619

> We need the reentry data on our heat shield tiles.
> Stop laughing! That's not funny!

>>16709580
He seems to be more busy at Tesla, X, and Neuralink, than at SpaceX. His lack of presence is the problem.

>>16709628
you are retarded

https://x.com/RGVaerialphotos/status/1939017025268879551

>>16709630

Are you an Elon simp?

No need to answer We already know.

>>16709633
retarded and deranged, filling every thread with unhinged, unrelated rants

>>16708965
For an easy normie understanding a good a way would be trying to dock with the sun station in Outer Wilds. It creates a very manual experience of trying to enter and align to something in a low orbit.

>>16709658
When was the last time Musk was inspecting a flight article up close?

>>16709661
he was driving the crane that tipped over

>>16709658
Dr Frankenstein bested by his creation!

>>16709661
Probably when he did his Mars Plan presentation

>>16709385
I think this kind of braindead take is unfortunately the overwhelming majority default.
Most people are literally incapable of accepting or even conceiving the notion that Spacex exists for a purpose other than profit. Dodge v Ford ruined literally everything.

>>16709671

> Everybody else is wrong!

Have Elon simps even considered the possibility that everyone else is right and the Elon's Mars scam is never going to happen?

Because a string of failed Starships and tangled wreckage sure seems to be evidence of that.

NB4 Mars 2026!

It's the weekend, and he's bored. Don't be his entertainment.

fuck you

>>16708965
Kerbal Space program

kill the baiter with hammers

Is the ISSpresso machine still in use?

https://x.com/TurkeyBeaver/status/1939048784425820446

>>16709697
Falcon 9 cope is all we have left. Everything nominal.

They are going so fucking slow at starbase why are they dragging their heels with seemingly every facet? Musk needs to fly in and tell the team
>okay look guys we are launching on June 1, whether we are ready or not.
>If this rocket does not take off on that day, then an entire team is getting blanket fired with no referrals for your next job

why don't they dig the launch pads into the ground so you don't have to worry about sounds or debris explosions?

>>16709714
because its a swamp

>>16709153
No, what do those numbers and letters represent?

>>16709714
It seems like there are quite a few natural geologic features that could make ideal launch locations.
The problem is making the faggots who already claimed every fucking bit of Earth already leave.
For purposes that go beyond individual property rights, it should be easy to eject the retards and use the best places for the best purpose

>>16709383
That's also a muffin

>>16709487
You generally have to keep your payload and other components from incinerating or freezing anyway, so this isn't necessarily a huge problem.

>>16709540
>anon learns about parks

>>16709710
This is clearly the opposite of the problem

>>16709673
Betting against Spacex or Musk's companies in general is retarded, historically

>>16709719
4 failures, block 2, 0 results

>>16709532
lol, everything has been researched in the 60s.

>>16709745
nvm, found a better paper

>>16709737

Betting against Starship V2 was and remains a smart bet.

>>16709085
that shitcoin is going to zero.

>>16709540
uhh, purely socioeconomic factors.

>>16709697
rockin' that barge to Vandy cadence baby

>>16709737

>>16709716
grim

>>16709222
the LEM has such style. It's something about a manned lander which is built for pure out-of-atmosphere work whichis so unique. its why poltards call it fake becuase it doesnt look like the roket ships in cartoons. Scifi has never captured the aestetic, and of course no real vehicle has either since weve never been back to the moon.

>>16709802
Grumman were gods back then

>>16709814
behold, another legendary Grumman product

>>16709609
Needs a Donald Duck edit.

>>16709814

>>16709833
boomer moment

how many more weeks till mars, exactly?

>>16709853

>>16709629
spacex is just boring starlink falcon 9 launches now, cant blame him. insanely boring

>>16709862
and cranes falling over

>>16708287
No American space program = no Chinese space program
They "care" about it solely because America does and they want to outdo America. They're not white, so on their own they'd be perfectly content to sit and rot on Earth until extinction, doing nothing and having no ambition.

>>16709920
This is the real trvthnvke.

Worlds colliding

>>16709924
jonathan has a huge library of space stuff....but is it even worth anything to anyone? does anyone care about it at all besides him?

>>16709924
Why does this get me rock hard?

>>16709631
>I want winter hotel prices in summer

>>16709094
>the graph isn't even in real terms adjusted for inflation
They all fucked it hard. Drumpf just gets to claim he fucked it harder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO3j6EORw_I

>>16709932

> WA pay full ride plus $1000
> NY pay Tree Fiddy

Yeah fellow Elon simps. Stardink pricing is heckin fair. Trust the plan. Mars in 2026!

>>16709920
>They're not white
neither are euros, nips or americans
>m-muh elon
is african.

i don't feel so good, sfg...

>>16710012
did you eat taco bell again you stupid fucking idiot?

>>16709920
>on their own they'd be perfectly content to sit and rot on Earth until extinction, doing nothing and having no ambition.
So, every nation on urf then.

>>16709924
I fucking love this timeline

In a world full of darkness

His videos bring me joy

>>16709924
>leave it to me
i wish she said that to me...

>gets married to a plastic bag instead of launching the New Glenn again
is he a fraud?

>>16710047
I believe in Him. He has a plan, just wait.

A very good morning to all spin kings, a bad one to all well dwellers

good morning

>>16710082
good morning, anon :)
>>16710063
fuck you

>25 flights btw

>>16710063
I don't know how I feel about this comic. I think I was just glad to read something set in a spin station. Fascinating world and tells a lot about it through implication alone.

>>16710063
I have an inkling that spinhabs will win out because easy access to freefall by elevator is so attractive. Zero g is delightful, the greatest of intoxicants and once you have it you want it on tap

>>16709862
He's the CEO. He doesn't get to let his company fall apart because it's less stimulating than ketamine. What a bizarre thing to say

>>16710100
He's fixing Earth first

>>16710106
I think >>16709491 is probably right and I think Peter Thiel is probably responsible. I don't know why so many billionaires are apocalypse fetishists when they could just colonize Mars or chill out on a beach or drown in little boys instead

realistically, are we even going to get another starship launch this year?

>>16710109
I could see things turning around in six months if they focus on doing it well, but I could also see more of a failure cascade if upper management decides to push even harder after this

fuck you

>>16710109
50/50

>>16710063
>jump
>crash through your next door neighbour's window

>>16710109
>>16710111
>>16710127
They're literally gearing up to do a SF of Ship 37. Elon wasn't messing around when he said "just a scratch". The show must go on.

>>16710130
You'll get wise to Coriolis forces very quickly, on big habs they're negligible

>>16709977
nyc government pays the difference

>>16710131
As long as they are keeping production rates increasing, eventually a rocket will succeed

>>16710135

No, it doesn't:

https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-hochul-announces-major-digital-access-initiatives-launch-affordable-broadband-act-and

It's a mandate to be a provider it state. Although there's other graft in the larger program.

>>16709547
least concern

>>16710100
What a niggardly thing to say

>>16710131

> This is the wreckage of Starship 37. Here's the corpse of Mars Guy for scale.

>>16709673
Die faggot
There's no plausible alternative to Elon
You're either a cum sucking faggot redditor or a troll who is also a cum sucking faggot

>>16710143
then thats fucking disgusting of spacex

I don't get this thing. Where is the booster stage?

>>16710165
Vore.

>>16709920
It's more pragmatic than that. The ultimate goal is to show strength domestically and internationally, with the domestic show of strength being the primary goal.

China isn't functionally communist anymore, but it is still ruled by a strong central government whose primary aim is to retain power. Reducing domestic discontent, impressing its citizens with its own strength and maintaining a strong, stable position in the international order are important ways it does that.

Positioning Chinese accomplishments in space against American accomplishments still shows China in a negative light, because they're more than 50 years behind. Instead they use their space program as a domestic demonstration of strength and heavily emphasize their future ambitions. The role of the US as a foil is secondary, and only relevant to the degree that it affects how the domestic audience interprets the Chinese space program.

>>16710165
I remain unconvinced this thing will ever be truly reusable. Don't they know, carbon fiber only looks good "on paper" and cannot be implemented safely for critical components that are real-world cycled thru huge temperature ranges and stresses, and must have many, many interfaces with metallic components.
This thing is a surefire tragedy unfolding in slow motion, and nobody is telling them... until its too late. THEN all of the "experts" will emerge from the woodwork, saying I told you so.
Carbon fiber is for fishing poles

>>16710143
SpaceX should challenge it on the basis of the Commerce Clause. It's what the dims would do if they didn't like a red state doing something like that.

So basically Optimus is supposed to be some sort of techno slave force to help humanity colonize mars? Isn’t this the backstory of blade runner?

>>16710184
They'll be teleoperated via neuralink by rustsuckers who see the surface once a year with their own eyes

>>16710143
They should just stop doing business in New York. They could use the bandwidth in neighboring states.

>>16710187
Yup, just terminate the NY service, citing unacceptable terms of business. Its inappropriate for satellite internet, and they can say NO.
The wealthy New Yorker's who need Starlink can buy the service from, and have it billed in, a neighboring state with favorable laws, and it still works in NY. So basically fuck you New York, there are super easy workarounds to this stupid law for niggers

>>16710186
I don't think AI is suitable for teleoperating
At best you can give it instructions over the radio

>>16710184
No it's the backstory of Alien
Worked great there

>>16710191
Yes, find some way to have an out-of-state billing address and pay more for the roaming service.
I would be fine with seeing NY go gray on their availability map.

>>16710194
Tyrell and Weyland-Yutani Corp are pretty similarly dystopian

>>16710194
Blade runner is “robots decide to rebel and free themselves” as they have gotten to the point of self-reproduction and ask what is means to be alive.

Alien is “robot instructed to protect secret mission directive at all cost” because some ayyy creature is seen as a superweapon that needs to be located and captured. Way more soulless, 2001-tier like HAL, a cold machine

>>16710186
I wonder if they will send mostly people without limbs, they need the least amount of calories and need the least amount of living space in habitats and it gives them some purpose.

>>16710204
Nah. Maybe if the Mars Project was being done with shitass Delta II rockets or something, where every gram of cargo counts.
I think with Starship you get good economies of scale. So trying to supply one whole human is easy by virtue of sending shit to the red planet in bulk–and you dont need to worry about outfitting minmaxxed peasants with missing limbs who require less calories

>drumpf winning all week
>muskrat still impotently seething and just had V2 fail for the fourth time without even flying

fuck you jack ass

>>16710211
if by winning you mean destroying the source of most new energy and ceding the future of AI and the world in general to China then yes you are correct

new 'shep in 4 min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-rq-Ul58a0

>rocket looks like a penis
>launch pad looks like a giant butt

>HOLD HOLD HOLD

woosh

>>16710215
China is on the brink of total collapse

Musk’s response? It looks like bloe urigin is pulling ahead of this commercial space race

that thing must've pulled some insane Gs when it started that landing burn

Wait, so it's just a very expensive amusement park drop tower?

>>16710233
sounds like total cope
total copellapse

>>16710238
yes

Who cares? Stop posting off-topic.

>>16710241
thats on the ground so its not spaceflight

Millions of dollars to just take a seatbelt off for 30 seconds and do a flip in a cuckpod. I would rather just purchase a vomit comet ride at that point

is it safe to land the capsule that close to the booster?
what if the booster had a rud?
would the capsule be able to divert from the landing site?

>>16710239
Just watch Peter Zeihan, China is done for.

>>16710247
lmaooo

>>16710246
>what if the booster had a rud?
That happened on the one unmanned flight a year or so back.

>>16710225
The design is likely inspired by the huge ass and fake tits of his GORGEOUS WIFE, Lauren Sánchez. What a catch, I'm surprised he had the charm & cash to woo and land such a gem, but here we are. Maybe it will last this time? Probably not, but Ad Astra Per Aspera! He only has half his remaining fortune to lose.
Or maybe its a nod to Jacklyn again, lets ask Bezos on X, what exactly did he mean by this?
He will probably respond with "That is a very interesting question, I'm glad you asked!"
Then he will repeatedly ring the Long John Silver's captains bell, and shout "Gradatim Ferociter!", while spraying $40K per bottle champagne all over the room, then trip and do a face plant. He really is one classy guy

>>16710253
kek

>>16710238
always has been

>>16710255
Earth is such a fucking beautiful planet. In a universe full of sterile gray rocks it’s fascinating that there’s this exceptional blue and green oasis

>>16710257
It's literally Hell.

>>16710258
That would be Venus

>>16710165
We're working on a powerpoint for that

>>16710238
This completely uncontrolled piece of shit capsule almost landed on the goddamn booster, which is NOT safed, with six privately paying, VERY rich and litigious people who have access to the BEST legal teams and just/jury bribes out there aboard.
This is extremely high risk, what if they collided with the booster? Would the retro propulsion thrusters fire upon the collision?
Seriously Blue Origin, what the fuck. I smell a lawsuit here, drafting one up as we speak. This program is hereby HALTED, and there is no solution for it. They will have to scrap these flights and abandon the program. Parachutes cannot be steered away from danger.

>>16710274
Sorry Blue Origin, you had this coming

>>16710272
Venus mercifully kills you instantly. Earth tries to keep you alive and suffering for as long as possible.

>>16710253
Forgot his trademark cackle, otherwise 10/10.

>>16710238
You're only getting that now?

>>16710257
We've got a few planets and moons with color, most notably the iron red of Mars, and the yellow and red sulfur of Io, but none anywhere near as varied as you can get with a liquid dihydrogen monoxide environment.
Also, atmosphere colors don't count, a gray rock is still a gray rock, fuck Venus.

Mars is orange and I’m not sure when or why we starting trying to convince ourselves that it is “red”

>>16710274
>almost landed on the goddamn booster
>with six privately paying, VERY rich and litigious people
When was this? The booster RUD was on a flight with no human passengers. Too bad too, because it would have been an E-ticket ride when that vtec abort kicked in.

>>16710277
you don't know what you're up against

>>16710292
If I saw an orange that red at the grocery, I would not buy it.

>>16710293
It happened just a few hours ago.
>>16710295
This case is bulletproof. Sure, they signed waivers and shit, and will try to spin it as a huge success, but they didn't sign up for irresponsible design and planning.
Also, this is CLEARLY a near-miss aviation incident in Texas airspace, so that automatically triggers an FAA review.
If the FAA doesn't do their job, and do it quickly, I will be suing them too on Monday. They have a mandate, and I demand they follow it to the letter.
But we all know, its those SIX individual civil suits that will REALLY sting. Each rich person can shop around for a highly favorable judge, jury, and venue in their home states, or in Texas, that does NOT find this amusing. The civil suits are a slam dunk payout, a huge one too given to cost of the tickets, the defendant's ability to pay up, and the adverse findings from the FAA suit. Multiply that $100M+ payout by six, plus the termination of the program, absolute reputation loss, and other fines and fees.
Blue Origin is right fucked, and NS-33 was the final flight.

>>16710247
Bait used to be believable

>>16710333
>no rocket names with the word "dong" in it
End of an era.

>>16710042
People on here do realize she's not actually female or Japanese r-right?

>>16710319
>It happened just a few hours ago.
which means it's news to me because I DON'T WATCH THOSE STUPID SOUNDING ROCKET CARNIVAL RIDES, oh yeah
also mfw

>>16710340
dong is Korean, anon, those are Chinese, learn your bug people

>>16710291
>a gray rock is still a gray rock, fuck Venus.
Isn't it more blackish?

Electron is tiny

>>16710367
You could deploy multiple Electrons in a single Starship.

>>16709240
But, but, but the doomposters told me that Flight 10 wouldn't be until next year!

https://x.com/blueorigin/status/1939355636199719312

>>16710183

Gee -- why didn't they think of that?

https://www.regulatoryoversight.com/2025/01/u-s-supreme-court-declines-to-overturn-new-yorks-affordable-broadband-act/

>>16710377 the commerce clause has been the cause of trillions in economic inefficiencies since 1789. it needs to go

> The plans are specifically priced at $15 per month for 25 Megabits per second (Mbps) download speeds and $20 per month for 200 Mbps. These prices must include recurring taxes, equipment rental fees, and other usage fees, with annual price increases capped at 2%.

I.7 million New Yorkers were on the Federal discount internet program when that was around, so this mandate is a sizable bite.

As for Starfink dropping the state, their business model includes high speed financial business links. And where is that industry concentrated? That right.

>>16710379
That's why it should be abused against leftoids as much as possible.

>>16710384
Friedman is turning in his grave.
Should supermarkets limit how much a box of cereal costs for people who are poor? It's just going to make the product more expensive for the rest of us

>>16710384
>And where is that industry concentrated? That right.
Yes, in companies that are already pissed off about all the crap that New York and NYC are already imposing on them.

>>16709631
>a wireless ISP raises prices to compensate for excessive load density in a certain area
>this is bad because I hate how radios work

>>16710374
This is called a near miss in aviation and it absolutely is NOT acceptable, under any circumstances whatsoever.
Blue, you have the right to remain silent.

>>16710408
/sfg/ is COMFY

>>16710408
Those are our hopes and dreams about musk doing something right for once.

>>16710384
basically an extra tax for operating in New York that only makes sense if you are large enough

>>16710319
>If the FAA doesn't do their job, and do it quickly, I will be suing them too on Monday. They have a mandate, and I demand they follow it to the letter.
Keep us posted on that, bud

BTW -- that Supreme Court decline mean all the other states can go thru with their own Ghetto ISP mandates. Blue states for sure but Red states love this grift too.

Starstink they're coming for you.

LEAKED STARBASE CALL FURTHER SHREDS ELON'S NARRATIVE: REPORT
SpaceX officials in a conversation intercepted by U.S. intelligence said the Ship 36 explosion at Massey's was more destructive than expected

The Washington Post first reported the call, citing four people familiar with U.S. intelligence on the matter.

These machines that throw fire by the rear are vane. There is nothing in the so called "space" that should concern humans. The important stuff is happening in this Earth. All those satellites used for evil purposes will all come down. Space is effectively fake, it might as well be an animated background, or it might be a gigantic creation. It does not matter, because we are tied to this Earth, and what we do during our short stay here is what matters.

>>16710514
ok Boebert

>>16710513
>"People familiar with people who understand the matter report..."

>>16710514
Based firmament believer.

it's turtles all the way down

>>16710514
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_a_tree_falls_in_a_forest_and_no_one_is_around_to_hear_it,_does_it_make_a_sound%3F
This is my philosophy, im 100% serious.

texas will take discovery from my cold dead hands

>>16710514
You, me, us... we all live in cave. Why leave cave?

>>16710522
Applicable in what sense? That if there exists planets and no one to observe them, then they do not exist?

>>16710369
There have been multiple times more Protons than Electrons, and there are no Neutrons in the natural universe.

How much aerobreaking has been done by deep space NASA/ESA missions? Do you only aerobrake into planets that have have atmospheric probe data? You could do it with mars or earth because the pressure gradient is known. But not really known for somewhere like uranus or neptune, so could you do it there or would you have to guess how much atm pressure there is to perform your aerobreak?

>>16710513

> There has been no post about the crane collapse and the city has ignored direct appeals for information. TechCrunch has contacted Starbase’s main media email address, its mayor, its two commissioners, its city administrator, and its clerk this week. None have responded to multiple requests for information about the accident.

They're waiting until the Fourth of July holiday when no one reads the news to announce the deaths.

>>16710561
you would have to know that stuff and what the atmosphere is composed of, or your spacecraft is toast

>>16710561
Beyond Mars and Venus almost everything is built on Voyager observations and theoretical models. I read that aerocapture is being considered for Outer Ice Giant missions where the spacecraft achieves orbit insertion in a single atmospheric pass. Bit risky but they could send a cubesat swarm to test out parameters ahead of the capture.

>>16710567
>>16710569
Fascinating, thanks

>>16710253
i enjoyed reading that anon

We've had pretty descent, high-powered amateur/professional astronomy observation since like, what, the circa 70s and 80s? We've been looking all this time—yet the very first instance of a confirmed interstellar object wasn't until 2017? And then RIGHT AFTER that in 2019 we confirmed 2I/Borisov as a second visiter?
Why did it take so long to find and confirm this type observation, and then why were the first two observations made right after the other?

>>16710580
>yet the very first instance of a confirmed interstellar object wasn't until 2017? And then RIGHT AFTER that in 2019 we confirmed 2I/Borisov as a second visiter
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisson_clumping
sorry anon. it doesn't mean anything.

>>16710583
Yeah I considered this. If this is true then it is very interesting and coincidental!

Interstellar object sample return

>>16710592
I know just the team to tackle that. They're about to be laid off.

>>16710601
I know just the right billionaires that would fund this. They would be happy to do so.

>>16710561

A fair amount of data on that was gathered during the latter part of the Cassini mission as she kicked down to a disposal entry. Because muh planetary protection faggotry.

>>16710592

Ask next thread for more details, but:

Hyperbolic speeds and random trajectory inclinations make that virtually impossible. Can do flybys or a very aggressive on site sampling.

>>16710408
My OC :)

>>16710583
Poisson Clumping is just "STOP NOTICING THINGS GOYIM"

>>16710621
a good example of Poisson clumping is the twin towers attack. north tower was hit by a hijacked jet, but the south tower was blown up by Bush. shame they picked the same day.

>>16710561
Well Cassini/Huygens used aerobraking if you count entry and descent. Other than that I think it's just Mars and Venus missions.
I'm not sure if any have used it solely for slowing down into a parking orbit or whatever.

there hasnt been a noteworthy launch in a month or longer

>>16710685
grim

>>16709557
Insights into the composition of asteroids and early solar system formation
More practically very necessary to planetary defense.
I'm not sure what became of Osiris samples, but that was what it seemed to be for Hayabusa

This is the final /sfg/.

>>16710744
Was gonna say. I'm not even staging and I've made at least 80% of them in the last four years

been out of the loop
after that last fuck up, when can we expect the next starship launch to be?

>>16710763
Probably never.

>>16710744
it was a good run

>>16710592
>spend $50 billion
>it's a rock

>>16710291
>Iron red
Ochre Yellow.

>>16710788
>>16710788
>>16710788