So .... this is awkward

>>16712007 (OP)
>secretly give everyone free brain steroids
BASED

>>16712007 (OP)
You do know that just because a news source says it, doesn't make it true, right?

>>16712039
Are you suggesting the trump-government is lying to us?

>>16712039
It's from an interview m8
https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1939732916491399329?t=406

>>16712042
Akshually it was the Clinton-era government.

https://www.safeminds.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/GenerationZeroNotes.pdf
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/study-disputes-vaccine-autism-link-flna1c9478384

tldr:
>do study for CDC
>data indicates clear and huge increase in autism in vaxxed kids
>refuse to publish
>spending years 'tweaking' the data until the link disappears
>finally release report deboonking all those stupid vaxxies' conspiracy theories
>take new job at GlaxoSmithKline and refuse to talk to the media

>>16712056
The 2003 study was debunked 22 years ago. His brainworm injury must be acting up again.

>>16712056
>>data indicates clear and huge increase in autism in vaxxed kids
>>refuse to publish
How convenient for you that the data that would prove your claims just happens to be unpublished. Sad.

>>16712066
wrong

https://www.safeminds.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/GenerationZeroPowerPoint.pdf

>>16712007 (OP)
CDC have admitted through FOIA request that there are no records in their archive of a study done between vaccinated and unvaccinated populations.

https://icandecide.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/2020_08_03-20-02002-Final-Response-No-Records1.pdf

>>16712133
Here's a clip from a Congressional Hearing in 2012 where CDC’s Dr. Coleen Boyle admits that the CDC has never done a study comparing vaccinated children with unvaccinated children.

It's "funny" that after her answer this guy panicked and cut her off and said she is wasting his time lol.

https://www.c-span.org/clip/house-committee/user-clip-boyle-no-vaccinated-vs-unvaccinated/4589293

>>16712111
That's only about "THIMEROSAL" and the eventually stopped putting in vaccines - "for some reason". What a coincidence.

>>16712140
they eventually stopped putting it*

>Inb4 shills swarm this thread and call everyone virgins and retards/schizos.
>inb4 the VAERS system is only used by "degenerates"

Just remember that these people don't have any arguments :)

>the VAERS system
>2025
>schizos hope everyone forgot how they tried to spam muh VAERS during covid and all the reports there are like 'my 90 year old grandma fell down the stairs and died, received covid vaccination 12 days ago'

>>16712149
>you don't have any arguments :)
>everyone who disagrees with me is a drunk

>>16712111
Wow, oh boy the exact same shit from 20 years ago my favorite. Don't you retards have a life? The analysis was on public health records, so not a controlled, randomized study. You see there's this thing you have to do called "exclusion" in studies, which is basically removing all the aberrant populations. Verstraeten did not exclude certain high risk populations in the initial analysis, like low birth weight individuals, who are both at a higher risk of autism and more likely to receive an earlier vaccine schedule.

>>16712152
Yes, the person who calls everyone who uses the VAERS system drunks and retards doesn't have any arguments.

Not me saying this.

>>16712133
Just because the CDC hasn't done a study doesn't mean its never been done before. There is no "conspiracy", they're just looking in the wrong place like retard.

I'll stop calling you retards when you stop acting retarded.

>>16712158
It's not that they haven't done a study, they don't even have records of any one doing a study. You'd think that would be an important study to make no?
>There is no "conspiracy", they're just looking in the wrong place like retard.
lmao even

Imagine being this brainwashed.

>>16712160
>You'd think that would be an important study to make no?
why? what pathophysiological basis could link vaccinations and autism?
should they also do a study to check for vaccinations and ingrown nails? vaccinations and balding? just in case

>>16712165
>why? what pathophysiological basis could link vaccinations and autism?
Are you taking the piss? Are you being stupid on purpose?

>breaking news: retard says retarded thing

>>16712027
Autism is a mental disease, not PED.

>>16712189
>non-response

>>16712165
>>16712222
It can lead to neuroinflammation and neurological disorders, especially while the children are developing.

If the baby is already predisposed genetically it can cause immune dysregulation that can further influence neurodevelopment - in a bad way. Especially if the vaccine schedule is rushed and done in a short period of time which depends on the type/brand of vaccine (different brands have different doses)

>>16712219
It's an atypical neurological state. Depending on the severity and how it manifests itself, it can be focused into productive uses, making it into a performance enhancing condition. For those who are low functioning, it's terrible. For those who are ultra high functioning, it can enable achievements otherwise would be inaccessible.
The problem is that MBAbros have heard about the 'weaponized autism' meme and think it's something they can harness for whatever task they desire. Same mistake happened with FOSS, where clueless corporate managers tried getting rid of their software developers and have "nerd who do it for free" do the company's internal projects, which of course never came the fruition.
There are some companies who understand that autism can be nudged a limited amount and find productive uses for it. Those who see it as another interchangeable work unit cog end up failing, while the autists have the blame dumped on them. Ford and Microsoft are two companies that have explicit departments for autistic employees where they can be paired with productive work that their condition compliments instead of working against it in an exploitive manner.
As bit of an aside, any autistic accommodation that's HR lead is bound to fail. Much like the middle management MBAbros, HR has its own agenda that they think autists can help fulfill instead of trying to create an environment that compliments autistic attributes so they can be productive.

>>16712007 (OP)
I'm too old to have gotten it at birth, yet still highly autistic...

>>16712255
People are throwing this word around like it means you are really into something. When I hear autistic I imagine someone that can't make eye-contact and is very socially awkward - but in a medical sense, not just like "oh I can't talk to girls".

I've never heard an actual autist call him self autistic, you just see it immediately.

>>16712065
>it was debooonkd

>>16712056
I'm sympathetic to anti establishment rhetoric but this doesn't pass the sniff test.
>CDC finds evidence vax causes autism
>So abhorred by these results they redo the experiment until it works out
>These original results that disgusted them so much, they save on record
>So that 20 years later the results can be found by people who may release them
This makes no sense. If they cared so much about covering this up.... Why not just delete the original fucking results from history? It all lines up a little too nicely.

>>16712133
>>16712137
So we have never known whether these vaccines work or not? No double blind tests. No vaxx vs unvaxxed study to show veracity of the claim of the vaccines? What the fuck.

>>16712288
>No vaxx vs unvaxxed study to show veracity of the claim of the vaccines? What the fuck.
nope

>>16712137
Doing a dedicated study between vaccinated and unvaccinated children would require raising a statistically significant population of children (thousands, maybe more given the low baseline prevalence of level 2 and 3 autism spectrum disorders that can be easily distinguished in early childhood) to adolescence without any vaccination; which raises serious ethical concerns if any of those children subsequently get sick and injured or die as a result of the diseases they would have been vaccinated against.

The only claims with any plausible proposed causal mechanism between vaccination and ASD goes back to the use of thiomersal as a preservative - a claim which was based on toxicology of methylmercury rather than the ethylmercury that thiomersal actually breaks down into, and a claim which is largely a moot point now since we phased out the use of thiomersal a quarter of a century ago.

>>16712300
>Doing a dedicated study between vaccinated and unvaccinated children would require raising a statistically significant population of children (thousands, maybe more given the low baseline prevalence of level 2 and 3 autism spectrum disorders that can be easily distinguished in early childhood) to adolescence without any vaccination; which raises serious ethical concerns if any of those children subsequently get sick and injured or die as a result of the diseases they would have been vaccinated against.
Well isn't that convenient.

There are many communities who don't vaccinate their children for religious reasons, you can definitely use them to conduct the study.

>The only claims with any plausible proposed causal mechanism between vaccination and ASD goes back to the use of thiomersal as a preservative - a claim which was based on toxicology of methylmercury rather than the ethylmercury that thiomersal actually breaks down into, and a claim which is largely a moot point now since we phased out the use of thiomersal a quarter of a century ago.
The issue is not only about autism, having such an insane vaccination schedule can have an impact on the immune system and a host of other neurological problems during development.
Thiomersal is just the one they've "studied" and they still removed it while claiming it's harmless.

>>16712312
>There are many communities who don't vaccinate their children for religious reasons, you can definitely use them to conduct the study.
If you can convince those communities to willingly participate in a long term study, then go for it.

>>16712300
>>16712320
You have to take in consideration that even prelicensure clinical trials have limited sample sizes and follow-up after vaccination. Meaning - after vaccination they check on the subject for a month at most.

This is not sufficient enough and not a proper way to conduct a safety study imo. If the kid has issues after a month or two they don't count it as a safety signal, which is insane.

>>16712056
>an interview by Fucker Carlson
He got punked by a 4'6" jew so bad he lost his show, lmao. I wouldn't trust him as a valid source

>>16712272
>I have no argument
>the post

>>16712336
>His brainworm injury must be acting up again.
Unlike your giga brain argument.

>>16712056
Wasn't the fact that the FDA banned thalidomide while everyone else didn't one of the FDA's early triumphs?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalidomide_scandal#United_States

>>16712259
I asked the butcher today if I'm the only person that buys suet or if a lot of people get it. But I actually didn't, I just imagined that if I found a butcher that sells suet - which I would like to - I would ask that question and it would be autistic of me. Why the fuck do I think about this stuff?

>>16712371
Thinking about weird shit doesn't make you autistic.

>>16712371
nutmeg?

>>16712350
One of the first things that got it targeted for regulatory capture.

>>16712300
>which raises serious ethical concerns
pfff

>>16712626
the irony, right?

>RFK Jr.
Literally the Jim Cramer of medicine

>>16712856
ha

>>16712007 (OP)
they know you degenerates will engage in unsafe sex and drugs
this is a preemptive measure
the autism is the real vaccine
vaccinating you from regular sources of unsafe sex and drugs

>>16712300

What if they get sick or injured as a result of the vaccine?

>>16712300
I believe the last reported rate of US children (<24 months) that were not vaccinated in the US was hovering near 1.2% with some margin for error.
>3.6 million babies born in the USA in 2024
>43,200
>3.59 million babies born in 2023
>43,080

My kids are included in that calculation. I live in a state that allows vaccine exemptions based on medical, religious, or conscience objections. If the US government were to pay for a study (therefore me) to passively monitor my kid's health, I would take that offer. I think 90% of the parents of those kids would as well, and some for free just to let them attend public school again once the data supprts that vaccines have properly been tested. I will never follow the logic of the 'ethical considerations' of not allowing a proper double blind study due to not giving the life saving juice that is exempt from double blind studies and financial compensation if something goes wrong. You know, like every other drug in the pharmaceutical world.

In fact, give me the link or phone number and I will register them for that study today. But that study doesn't exist because (((they))) don't want that study to exist. Assuming $30 per dose (well under the actual amount) but conveniently free if you have insurance, someone still pays for the manufacturing, distribution, administration, and 'safety studies'. You are looking at $100 million per vaccine. Now look at the CDC vaccine schedule and multiply by that number per child. No study will ever exist to reduce that margin of profit.

>>16712133
>Instill religious belief in people to presume something is not true unless "the science" shows it is true
>Don't do "the science"

>>16713403
>sick or injured as a result of the vaccine?
Tough titties, they can't get sued. They literally have a carte blanche to do anything they want without repercussions, isn't that a neat model?

>parents who made sure their kids got every vaxx under the sun as early as possible are the same sort of hypervigilant parents who would bring their kid to see a behavioral specialist and request a diagnosis if they pick their nose or suck their thumb too much
Wow, shocking

>>16712342
>guy said something
this entire thread is based on nothing and there is not a single argument to argue, so kys

>>16712007 (OP)
"Vaccines gave my son/daughter autism" has always been a cope by roasties who wasted their prime fertility years chasing careers and avoiding serious relationships before finally deciding to get pregnant in their mid-late 30s when their eggs are starting to go bad

>>16713897
don't care

>another /pol/ tourist thread

>>16713457
The burden of proof is on you, the accuser, who claims there is autism in a vaccine. Good luck with your study!

>>16712160
>The CDC has not conducted a study of health outcomes in vaccinated vs unvaccinated populations.
Read that again and compare it to what I said here >>16712158
Extensive studies have been done on vaccine safety, just not by the CDC.

>>16712007 (OP)
may I see it?

>>16714155
Slow down there friend. Just like with any pill, shot, topical treatment, surgery, or therapy, there are side effects. You can look up the last time penicillin was part of a double blind study, to which it clearly lists the side effects, the percentage chance of receiving them, possible alternatives in the event of a reaction.

Why not have the same standard for vaccines? Why is data on this one topic shielded from the public, protected by frothing at the mouth media pundits and doctors willing to call CPS for disagreeing with them? Why are doctors that spend years in school told to logically and critically think to diagnose the patient, but not with vaccines they just work shut the fuck up? Pattern recognition developed by my cavemen ancestors doesn't turn off for me just because someone says 'nuh uh'.

>>16712287
>Why not just delete the original fucking results
I doubt there's a procedure for an outright coverup like that

>>16713403
There's no evidence that this could happen

>>16714193
>Extensive studies have been done on vaccine safety,
If by extensive studies you mean following up with the patient for a month after inoculation...

It's not that the CDC haven't done a study themselves, they don't even have a record of ANYONE doing such a study.

But I know you think that's not an important study to make.

>>16712007 (OP)

>>16714410
lmao, it says it on the vaccine labels. How brainwashed are you exactly? Have you completely given up on thinking?

>>16713975
>doesn't care
>follows the thread and replies

>>16714691

>>16715411
I accept your concession

>>16715596
Our arguments are metalogically equivalent. For mine to be a concession, implies that yours was first.

>>16714409
You're telling me there's no procedure for putting paper through a shredder, and clicking delete on computer files?

>>16715411

>>16712007 (OP)
Man, It would be soooooo strange if autistic people had a higher probability of becoming trans.

>>16716174
Autistic people are about three times as likely as neurotypical people to have a gender identity issue but that's still only about 2% of them.

/pol/tarded twitter screencap threads are cancer and against >>>/global/rules/3 >>>/sci/rules/1 and in severe cases >>>/global/rules/4
OP is a faggot.
Fulfill your civic duty to help purge this board of anarchistic, sociopathic, intellectually regressive youtube/reddit/twitter immigrant subhumans like him who are under the delusion that all of 4chan (instead of just the designated shitposting playpens like /b/, /trash/, /bant/, etc.) is a toilet by reporting this thread en masse.
Here's a link so you don't have to scroll up to the top of the page.
https://sys.4chan.org/sci/imgboard.php?mode=report&no=16712007

>>16716214
>Expecting fat disgusting jannynigs to actually do their 'job'

>>16712133
>Specifically, urban areas reported rates that were over 2.5 times greater than rural areas (Williams et al., 2006)

They wouldn't, knowing what the results would be. That doesn't mean the vax causes autism, in fact the number itself suggest it doesn't as even in rural areas the unvaxxed are vastly in the minority.

But yes, they know how it would look drawing on unvaxxed pops who live out in the woods or cornfields.

>>16716214
vaccines are good and should be continued.
unfortunately, they won't change the fact that you are still an obvious reddit faggot, desu.

what is your degree in anyway reddit faggot, tattling, desu?

>>16716214
this post convinced me i need to add intentionally spreading vaxine disinfo to my list of bait trolling activities.

>I am the Chad and he the wojak
>His single image reply is cringe, but my single image reply is based
>I will change the skeptic's mind by also not providing easily accessible proof

>>16716268
>They wouldn't, knowing what the results would be. That doesn't mean the vax causes autism, in fact the number itself suggest it doesn't as even in rural areas the unvaxxed are vastly in the minority.

Such a study wont be useful just for determining if they cause autism, but the overall health of a person/child - allergies, problems with immunity, neurological disorder, developmental issues ect...

>>16712259
>When I hear autistic I imagine someone that can't make eye-contact and is very socially awkward
that's socially awkward not autistic it indicates soical awareness, autistics are social retards pretty much they can be normies but people say "he's always been like that"

>>16712066
Try publishing a study stating there can only be 2 genders in current year and then we'll have a talk

>>16716614
By gender do you mean biological sex or how someone see's themselves?

>>16716616
Okay here's a better one, try publishing a study showing transitioning is actually detrimental to the person doing it

>>16716621
That's not how it works. You'd publish a study that shows your findings. You don't start with an opinion then bend over backwards to make it look true.

The absolute state of this board nowadays.

>>16712234
A railroad spike in the head can make you a savant, or a drooling retard

>>16712290
>Reddington
the most based character

>>16712007 (OP)
Wasn't that autism and vaccine study proven wrong 15 years ago

>>16717244
Shh shh shh that doesn't matter to retards here

>>16717244
>>16717418
There was a study in the UK made by Andrew Wakefield and yes it was fraudulent. But there was another CDC study that indicated an increase in autism but they refused to publish it. They had to tweak it 4-5 times before publishing a report that showed the numbers they were comfortable with.

The initial report was made by Thomas Verstraeten but the CDC refused to publish his findings and after years of tweaking the results they released a "Deboonking".

>>16717441
A vaccine, like an updoot, is an ephemeral moment in the church of science. A baptizing and rebaptizing. A commitment and recommitment to all those things holy. A condemnation against the heretics blaspheming wikipedia. A renunciation of the chuds and their obsession with POC crime - and their cocks. A repudiation of the fundamentalist and his years of adolescent brainwashing in his/her/zer dogmas.
Indeed, to let the science in is to be one with the science. To climb the mortal realm and ascend to truly terrifying heights. A simple token act of submission to something more better, to recognize oneself as a cog in the universal machine, to watch your spouse lay with another because what is truly yours is not through possession. That happiness is not found in ownership, but through embracing interpersonal participation. That is the way. This is the science.

>>16712007 (OP) How reliable and peer reviewed is Bob F. Kennedy Jr.?

>>16715627
He's also saying there's a systematic procedure for covering up results they dislike.

>>16717556
I took a picture of this post because you pretty much hit the nail on the head. It is their church, and those of us who doubt it are heretics.

>>16717556
This post makes me so horny it makes want to let science gape my asshole to its stretching limits and inject autism right into my colon

>>16717556
damn bro...

>>16717557
Idk but the Pharma companies and experts are screeching and pissing their pants when he gets mentioned.

>>16715411
You showed him this time.

>>16717557
he has worms in his brain and he decapitated a bear once

fell for it again award