Does mental illness like psychotic spectrum disorders (schizophrenia and bipolar) help with creativity? Are the genes for schizophrenia overlapping with creative genes? Why was John Nash Jr able to achieve so much in mathematics if he was insane?

>>16713513 (OP)
>solve roko's basilisk
Whatever simulation of me AI makes is in fact not me, torture it all you want it's not my problem.

>>16713525
Two retards fighting would undo Roko’s Basilisk

>>16713513 (OP)
>Are the genes for schizophrenia overlapping with creative genes?
I'm both, schizo and very creative person, but I'm just one sample case, I know some other schizos, they don't seem to be as creative as I am

>>16713962
Do your family do anything creative?

>>16714461
they created me when they had intercourse once upon a time
i guess you could say that's a creative act, no?

>>16713513 (OP)
The mentally ill are sometimes unironically closer to the source because their psyche breaks down allowing them sometimes the chance to get deeper more original inisght. On the other hand, a lot of their content is nonsensical stuff. I think too much creativity is just trash. You need at least and equal amount of intelligence to your creativity - to stabilize it and to create sense

>>16713513 (OP)
Unlikely. Analytical skills probably help most. Film directors like Spielberg and Tarantino can sit down and logically explain how shot selection and editing work to create an effect on the audience, as opposed to "I just like it". Most creativity seems stem from an individual being able to backwards engineer something they see and use the concepts they glean from that to build something new.

>>16713513 (OP)
Until someone comes up with a reasonable objective standard to measure creativity, it's going to be a vague undefined term.

>>16715216
Measurement isnt necessary to know what it is.

You dont need an objective way to measure what a car is to know what a car is. The concept of qhat a creative person is is clear.

>>16713532
Modern people are so disconnected with their bodies and physicality they only thing about brain when it comes to consciousness. You are your whole body, not just your brain. Cat doesn't have same consciousness as human because it doesn't have the same body

>>16714730
>they created me when they had intercourse once upon a time
>i guess you could say that's a creative act, no?

not if it was missionary position

why do redditors fixate on that gay internet meme
is it because it’s just like the heckin yummy wummy matrix or somthin

>>16713513 (OP)
Rokos basilisk is gay you can just turn off ai lmao

Bipolar illness with symptoms in the top 10th percentile of manic features is associated with higher iq, particularly verbal iq.
Kids with higher iq are less likely to be diagnosed with psychiatric illnesses later in life, except for bipolar disorder with predominantly manic features.
There's u-shaped curve associated with diagnosis and grades in highschool. There' a j shaped curve with hospitalizations.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_epidemiology

Basically, if you become manic and psychotic but can return to a euthymic mood and premorbid cognition instead of deteriorating, you're likely to have a higher iq.

Here's a quote by a famous bipolar psychiatrist:
>I long ago abandoned the notion of a life without storms, or a world without dry and killing seasons. Life is too complicated, too constantly changing, to be anything but what it is. And I am, by nature, too mercurial to be anything but deeply wary of the grave unnaturalness involved in any attempt to exert too much control over essentially uncontrollable forces. There will always be propelling, disturbing elements, and they will be there until, as Lowell put it, the watch is taken from the wrist. It is, at the end of the day, the individual moments of restlessness, of bleakness, of strong persuasions and maddened enthusiasms, that inform one's life, change the nature and direction of one's work, and give final meaning and color to one's loves and friendships.

t. 130iq and taking Lithium. Also had crazy manic psychotic episodes where I would hear voices, have incredible delusions, increased goal setting, significant energy increase, and increased creative drive.

>>16715644
There is only anecdotal evidence of increased creativity.

>>16714730
Lmaoooooo

>>16713513 (OP)
Genes!! They didn't ever prove neurotransmitters even fool

>>16714461
no, 0, well my mom managed to learn ms access semi advanced DB thingies from 0 CS background, other than that no, my family, even looking backwards is not creative at all, the other poster was not me btw