The minds that seek answers, progress and glory. You are the ones who should hear this.

Welcome to my theoretical robot utopia. In it, every job, every task, every piece of "work" is fully handled by robots. These robots also maintain robots, don't think about robonigger9005 does everything, think that every task is handled with grace by multiple robots collaborating in chain, all to provide the basic needs to humans and to grace them with abundance, comfort and well being. Conceptually, think ancient greece, but instead of slaves, we have robots, which are the new slaves, we're free to do as we please, pursue knowledge, indulgence anything as long as we don't step in any other human's freedom.

To keep the society up and running, every human has had to keep its part of the deal, which is only, to know how to build this robotic automatic society from scratch. They won't need to, but it is a failsafe. Remember robots maintain and build robots that keep the society afloat.

There are some constraints, to keep this society afloat, humans must meet max population quotas, which might limit the amount of offspring the same way china limited to only one child per couple.

There's a "I didn't ask for this" option, you might not like it though, you are sent into the dense virgin natural territories, the only condition, again is that your population won't exceed the quotas, ensuring that the natural resources will be plentiful for you and your people to live in nature.

That's sort of it. Thoughts?

giving this another chance, you guys don't like utopias?

>>16715173
/lit/

>>16715213
atomic energy made the bomb, but it also made nuclear reactors, submarine existed in theory, before becoming reality

>>16713812 (OP)
>one child per couple.
Eugenics, you will produce an asymmetrical people. Eventually those people will face a problem the people cant even perceieve the reality of...and your Temple will fall.

Sequencial births produce alternative versions, differing gene expressions.

>every human has had to keep its part of the deal
This will eventually invert peoples Cognitive perspective on the deal, in Japan "saving face" was used to spare a good person dishonored feelings...but it eventually became a cover for dishonorable people to act sinfully without public recourse. Lying became common place because correcting it would be "against the rules". Legal lawlessness.
>we're free to do as we please
A beaver raised in captivity, given all the resources it could ever want or need...still has a drive to "build a dam". Removing "work" is removing purpose...destruction will become the order of operations and rebuilding will become the labor it requires. Ofcourse this happens over the course of generations, so there will be a whole generation that desires nothing more that complete dismattling of thw system.

>>16713812 (OP)
>population quotas
Hear me out. Space has (basically) infinite land and resources.
>>16715464
>A beaver raised in captivity, given all the resources it could ever want or need...still has a drive to "build a dam"
People aren't beavers. The drive for challenge can be handled by intellectual or artistic pursuits. Or maybe we can just let people dig holes and fill them back up. Either way we'll figure it out.

>>16715464
>so there will be a whole generation that desires nothing more that complete dismattling of thw system.

>>16715476
>People aren't beavers.
You have absolutely zero understanding of Evolutionary Biology, youre the exact opposite kind of person that should he macro-managing huemanity.
>infinite land and resources.
Infinite land and negative resources. It costs, not pays, to live on an alien world unable to support life.

Poorly thought out philosophies founded in nonexistent life experience.

>>16715476
>Hear me out. Space has (basically) infinite land and resources.
with a little (a lot) of work this could scale I guess. I don't know how I'd feel raising a family in mars.

>>16715476
that's the thing, not everibody was a matematician, philosopher, etc. in ancient Greece, despite that they still produced amazing ones. An obvious role would be to improve and polish the utopic situation.

I don't get it, resources are X, therfore don't consume more than X or you will have conflicts over resources, is not rocket surgery

>>16715611
>rocket surgery
[burps] Actual thing.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/316774906_Contactless_Coagulation_and_Cauterization_Method_using_Steam_Jet

>>16713812 (OP)
>Thoughts?

Two:
1. There's no selective pressure to maintain the education you mentioned. People would forget how anything works, and begin attributing superstition/paranoia, to your system within possibly 15 to 30 years.
*1.5. You're also, like Rome, describing an extremely top-heavy, income-inequality, kind of system where the people who maintain direct access to education, resources, infrastructure, etc.. Would rule over and progressively strip the rights of a large "underprivilege leisure class". Think of a society where the rich basically keep the poor entertained and stupid, until the point where the poor get so bored and stupid they can't be ruled anymore.

2. Humans aren't capable of manually controlling their own population growth/outcomes at scale. Do not mistake this statement as an invitation for debate I'm saying that as an objective statement. We're going off the basis of hypothetical robot production, sure, but introducing this additional hypothetical is adding an entire extra-layer of hypothetical that would be it's own discussion question. It's the equivalent of saying, "yeah all labor is automated... And people can fly. How would this automation effect the world?" You can't just brush over the 2nd impossible statement.

>>16715476
>People aren't beavers.

People are actually beavers.

>Either way we'll figure it out.

You're not going to figure out anything. You can't even commit to your own hypothetical.

>>16715502
>Poorly thought out philosophies founded in nonexistent life experience.
Too much mainstream scifi consumption. That we will find some way to travel much faster than light or a network of alien wormholes is a given in the mind of people like OP. We just need to give unlimited supplies of money (but not OP's money) to sciencey people and it will happen.
When every episode of Trek Wars SG-1 shows an abundance of easily accessed planets just waiting for humans to colonize, it seeps too deep into their brains for them to compartmentalize as being entertainment completely unrelated to reality. In some of the up/down arrow corners of the internet, it's completely acceptable to use events in those shows and even magic based stories like Harry Potter as evidence of what course the real, physical world should take.
While I too enjoy that type of entertainment, I do wonder if the combination of so much science fiction and universal suffrage is going to doom us. There's a notion that such shows gets the public interested in science and engineering so they advance both but how many grounded scientists and engineers (grounded is important here) do we get for every million that votes based on unrealistic assumptions they take to be true because they show them in a show?

>>16715639
1.
When every single person in your society knows exactly how it works from the ground up. And not only that, some have chosen to pursue ways of improving it, I can only see the risk of "lmao we forgor" to be near 0
1.5
there wouldn't be rich nor poor, only robot utopia and some people that voluntarily chose to live in nature
Robots are the "poor", the slaves, the workers, and that's the qhole point of it

2.
worked just fine in china


>next answer in ur post
(He)'s not (Me), I'm OP

>>16715657
I see your point, but again, the submarine existed first in fiction

I wanted to quote a Greek philosopher, but can't find the quote. It was something along the lines of
>slavery is required for society
take the bots and make them slaves, you and yours are now free

up you go

>>16715667
The only way that works is if it turns out our current understanding of physics is mostly wrong. Has humanity been wrong in the past? Yes. Are we wrong again? Probably on some minor thing but on the scale needed for FTL travel? Unlikely.

>>16716506
>FTL travel
oh I see, sci-fi, well, we have robots nowadays they're buidling tons of shit as we speak, obviously we're not at the point of fully automated robot society, and might never be there, but if we as humanity decided to pursue such goal as a whole (I know, unrealistic) we'd get that done in not much time, but I guess starting wars here and there is more important, a matter of priorities

>>16715464
>eugenics creates khans
Not if you introduce an element of evolution via free markets. Free market genetic engineering eugenics escapes this issue.
>Legal lawlessness.
Use free markets.
>Removing "work" is removing purpose
I agree, OP is a fag. That said im sure you could breed a race to escape this problem too.

>>16715476
>The drive for challenge can be handled by intellectual or artistic pursuits
You must think the races are equally intelligent.
We’re evolved organisms which don't function when moved outside of the environment we genotypically expect.

>people thinking about the market when there's no work to "sell"
hilarious really

>When every single person in your society knows exactly how it works from the ground up.
By magic? Even exceptionally gifted individuals who’ve disciplined their skills can’t achieve that feat. The idea the average joe with average intellect could do it is fucking preposterous.
>there wouldn't be rich nor poor, only robot utopia and some people that voluntarily chose to live in nature
Robots are the "poor", the slaves
How do you stop people doing some side hustle on the side thus creating inequality? Will our robot overlords be violent against those who excel?
This isnt a new idea, its The Day the Earth Stood Still, thats awful.
>worked just fine in china
Laughable statement. Are you a kid or just stupid?

>(He)'s not (Me), I'm OP
I can’t believe OP would’ve made such a dumb question thread. The answer is easily intuitable; human desires are infinite, robots alone can’t satiate them.
I think you’re an idiot else you’d realized the answer already.

>>16715657
>We just need to give unlimited supplies of money (but not OP's money) to sciencey people and it will happen
Exactly, many such cases.

>>16716698
>By magic?
lol wtf?
>The idea the average joe with average intellect could do it is fucking preposterous.
maybe you're just too much of a brainlet and think everyone is as brainlet as you, most people could learn to do this with ease, and if by chance somebody is as brainlet as you, you can give him extra chances or discard him for being a retard, descarding as "you don't need to learn it don't worry about it, retard"
is this a more up to your speed now? lmfao
>rest
I refuse to keep reading your text you're just too retarded to even discuss this topic, have a good one

>>16716700
>spend resoures to obtain unlimited resources
>nah bro too many resources
genius!

>>16715657
>the combination of so much science fiction and universal suffrage is going to doom us
Dysgenics will. Bad genetics leads to the above.

>>16713812 (OP)
if there's no mass depopulation strategy, then nobody will go for it, sadly
https://www.brighteon.com/9e90048f-7722-4613-b3d4-c9ef41307ee7

>>16716710
I really don’t see how you expect an individual to know how everything in society works. Let alone every individual to achieve that feat. Can recite from heart how to engineer a cargo ship from hull to fixtures? Can you also plan a brain surgery? What about a sewage system?
Surely we must be expecting people to learn different things; you can’t seriously expect one man to know how everything in society functions.
>I refuse to keep reading your text
This sort of socialistic magical expectations for what humans are like is what causes famine. The socialist believes that anyone could run a farm, so he sees no problem with removing the farmers. When it transpires that just anyone cannot know how everything in society functions, you get Zimbabwe famines.

>>16716713
>spend resoures to obtain unlimited resources
You’re skipping over the part where you had to steal someone’s resources to spend them. Stealing/taxation is wrong.
As for “getting unlimited resources” from this spending, it’s clearly not worth it because nobody’s voluntarily spent their resources to achieve it.

>>16716767
>if there's no mass depopulation strategy
I see what you mean, idk, perhaps our numbers are already in the alright territory, or we can wait after WWIII to begin protocols
very good vid btw
>>16716877
>Surely we must be expecting people to learn different things; you can’t seriously expect one man to know how everything in society functions.
wasn't expecting any common sense from you, but that does make snese
>rest
tiresome
>>16716881
>another n*g*er brained cattle
yeah, good post

>>16716541
>eugenics creates khans
Never implied that or anything of the sort. I have noted a strong correlation to birth sequence and gene-expressions from mated pairs. You have no clue how to create a Khan, I do.
>element of evolution via free markets
Systens Biology, my forté. What you dont know is there is an active force that is already commandeering global Eugenics practices and exerts itself in things like "one child policies" and "free markets" via cornering sexual markets and social exclusions to make one unfit for pairing.
>Free market genetic engineering
Molecular mosters created by people with zero understanding of Molecular Biology or Genomics (Im talking about even the professors of those fields.)
>Use free markets.
Youre an ideologue LARPing a Scientist. Free markets also means "strong arming wins". Congrats, you collapsed the Ecosystem by allowing the parasite-locusts to outbreed into total control.
>im sure you could breed a race to escape this problem
Yes. Me. Khan.
https://youtu.be/OvdQYzRHlO0

Unfortunatelly for huemanity it's "free market" approach rewarded liars and cheats to subvert the entire system for a parasitic, legal lawlessness, tyranny.

This is why Scientists of every field have been ideologically captured....THAT was free market...and everyone except the "Selfish Gene" lost (they lost too but theyre too self absorbed to know or care, they only care about power and dominance over others.) Once in power they exclude all others, all other aspects in Nature, and by extension, the Ecosystem. Like a vine desert. It produces nothing but feeds off of everything around it.

>The invasive vine known as kudzu is often called the "vine that ate the South" because of its rapid growth and ability to cover and smother other plants, including trees and structures.

Eugenics is a hyper-Dimensional balance that requires insight...so I decyphered its BioPhysics derived algorithm. Molecule is but one piece...a part...particle.

I'm thinking about making you free from labor and you're thinking about megacorps and markets... we definitely are not the same

>>16717494
Thats actually the "parasite" I mentioned. Its related to brain and heart Cognition and is similar to what has been called "the Selfish Gene".

Because its related in a total, "glass half empty or half full", perspective, even when they create elaborate theories in an attempt to overcome these clear pitfalls of the current system...they simply create the same pitfalls in a obtuse or obscured way. "Baiting into hazard", laws created to "ensure fairness" become legal crime for certain types of people that think in a certain way. Tanshuemanism, adding a brain chip to "give powers" but they immediately use it for control or manipulation.

OR..."we're free to do as we please" becomes degeneration of the self, even Cognitively, making a parasite more competent than the host, thus the free market will show a clear choice for leader who will never let go of power.

The War of the Machines is Biological.

https://youtu.be/ytItRVnGojQ

>>16717546
yes, this is an utopia, everything at every step could go wrong, I hate bringing politics into this, so I just won't, I'm a very political person, at least in the world of the thought, but my takes deviate from 4chan's NPC speech. So I won't.
>do as you please
that's sort of a satanic slogan iirc, but at the end of the day, isn't the weekend, or vacations what we desire the most? we want to just fucking chill or do whatever it is in our nature.
Now back to the utopia, a clear path should be laid to improve the utopia, to polish its hardships, to improve. Another pillar of that society shall be knowledge, self formation and assisted formation. By robots, so we won't need "teachers", that doesn't mean that, at least the way I see it, we won't have some kind of illustrated dudes, that can also assist us or guides us if both parties do agree.
Ancient greece achieved many feats, those motherfuckers had something similar to GPS measures of the globe in like 400 BC or so by merely measuring shadows at x time of the day. Advancements in maths, by them, and so on. So in my mind we shall replicate, a new era of pursuit of knowledge and expanssion of the human race, brought by breaking the chains of labor. I you just wanna chill in a beach with a pina colada, so be it. Some other nerd will be grinding for the glory of humanity.

>>16717567
>isn't the weekend, or vacations what we desire the most
The Sabbath, a break from work, not the voidance of work. Thats related to "Cognitive perspective", from or to, minor or major, inversions in perspective. Both people can say the same word but have polar opposite interpretations of it.
>Another pillar of that society shall be knowledge
I used to use Google to research various Scientific documents, was extremely useful for years, but in the last couple years the algorithm changed. All I get now are leftist, DEI, racial, political nonsense. Even going so far as to show the exact opposite of what I typed (show me a white scientist and all the results are black). Its the final form of that "inversion" where its blatant and unobscured because "it" is doing the "equal and opposite thing to counter balance". None of this is new (Isaiah 5:20), thats Cognitive inversion.

This is the Age of Information (Chaos, interpretation is what plays out, feelings and perspective, not "facts"). Even Dawkins fails this when he says "I'm interested in facts.", but he isnt, he is interested in the "comforting certainty of measurments". "From this perspective I get this answer."
>self formation and assisted formation
In absolute Chaos the only irregularity is absolute Order. The two see either as the aberration. Needle, meet haystack.
>similar to GPS measures of the globe in like 400 BC
Far, far, older than that, as the pyramids of Giza are equidistant from equator to pole, and are geometrically alinged with sites on the other side of the planet, namely Angkor Wat and Easter Island. As well as its proportions are magnitudes of the Earth's circumference and polar radius.
>a new era of pursuit of knowledge
Sifting through 1,000 pages of fake news psy-op's for an objective report.

>>16715639
>People would forget how anything works,
We already reached this point. Children use computers and parents think they understand computers. Turns out, that was totally wrong. Insight is imploding.

>system where the people who maintain direct access to education, resources, infrastructure, etc.. Would rule over and progressively strip the rights of a large "underprivilege leisure class".
This too we have today. The elite destroy the education system while sending their children to still functioning schools that are not within reach of the common family.
>Think of a society where the rich basically keep the poor entertained and stupid, until the point where the poor get so bored and stupid they can't be ruled anymore.
TV industrialised this process.

Read up on hte Iron Law of the Oligarchy, and you will realise we are way into the endgame of that process.

>expanssion of the human race
Mouse utopian population collapse from a subconsciouslly acknowledged purposelessness of effort for a parasitically capture society. Daniel Penny was the canary...pursuit=punishment. Head down, stay down, or be out down. Only the parasite class may achieve in their society.
>>16717490
>via cornering sexual markets and social exclusions to make one unfit for pairing.
Cant mate in prison or exile.
>>16717567
>just wanna chill in a beach with a pina colada, so be it.
That gets old after a couple years, and the lack of excitement and purpose will drive people to seek it out in unconstructive means. Meaning they will become destructive to society they put no value into themselves. Its becomes someone else's society and destroying other people's stuff isnt a loss...its a gain of the experience.
>Some other nerd will be grinding for the glory of humanity.
Yeah, me...in exile, because the system is captured.

Sean "Nonofthat" Carrol, the famous Physicist, blatantly lying on TV "for some unknown reason" but the comments on his channel are all sychophants. They couldnt care less about the truth, theyre all seeking a comforting measure like Richard Dawkins and Sean is their measuring rod. Covid, all the M.D.s around the world failed a high school level health exam.

If someone with credentials cant get through the door...what chance does the bearer of the Truth of their whole systen have? None.

>>16717609
>The Sabbath
I remember, when I was a NEET all I wanted was a job, and now that I have a job all I want to is NEET it, it's complicated I guess. It's hard to figure out how to educate a global society for the better of the society itself, not a light feat.
>knowledge
yes, they want to gatekeep and shittify, but should we follow through, or shall we seek greatness?
>self formation and assisted formation
not sure what you mean here
>ancients knew a thing or two
yes, and we should do the same
>Sifting through 1,000 pages of fake news psy-op's for an objective report.
no idea what you mean by this

>>16717610
yes, society is evil as fuck, more news @ 11

>>16717611
>Mouse utopian population collaps
I guess you're refferencing the mouse experiment, so yes, we shall remain enslaved forever? is that it, we shall conform?
>destrutive
I can see that, but imo, if we remove poverty and forced labor (we are here), we open the door for something better, or worse, it's on us, we shall seek to improve not to fall down in flames
>>Some other nerd will be grinding for the glory of humanity.
we shall enable them, it's my point, just beacuse our society is shit and evil, I don't think that means we should do the same

>>16717626
>how to educate a global society for the better of the society itself
By superseding Scientific knowledge as a whole, literally by-pass the entire Academic system so profoundly as to not be able to be ignored. Redifine as many fields as possible, connect each field, so each one is a cross reference to the other. *I* am the Science. Theology is Psychology is Medicine is Biology is Physics is Maths.
>should we follow through, or shall we seek greatness
I already followed through, I already acheived greatness. Huemans operate at a much slower rate than I had hoped...and seeing how the ones that created this hell have learned nothing, and knowing that as soon as I die, they will simply rebuild it, why teach the resistant or the unqualified?
>not sure what you mean here
Youre too idealistic to realize "the pillars" were the very ones that caused this mess of modernity.
>we should do the same
Egyptologist suppress history...so they can keep grants and cash and prizes to themselves. Its literally that simplistic. Hueman advancement has been crippled by millions of charlatans seeking immediate cash payments in the form of a salary. That very fact I mentioned about Egypt is antithetical to peer review. Say it professionally and kiss your career goodbye.
>no idea what you mean by this
You arent reading my words, youre skimming it like Im some average retard with a PhD.
>>16717609
>All I get now are leftist, DEI, racial, political nonsense.
This is the results of a "pillar of knowledge". Propaganda LARPing as research or facts. When the data or measurements dont align with their power structure its altered or suppressed. This is the third time Ive said this.

>we shall remain enslaved forever
You are. Youre constantly implying youre ahead of me while so far behind its alienating.
>>16717546
>even when they create elaborate theories in an attempt to overcome these clear pitfalls of the current system...they simply create the same pitfalls in a obtuse or obscured way.
[taps sigh]
You remake the same system you think youre escaping from.
>if we remove poverty and forced labor (we are here)
Ive been to every corner of the world, "poverty" is largely erraticated and when not its politicallt manifested. "Forced" labor means you have no purpose in life, so if you had UBI you would statistically become degenerate, drinking, drugs, consumption...a debt to nature itself. A parasite on a host. Youre seeking a free ride (slave master).

Youre one of them...

>we shall enable them
A hostile and alien tyrant prods the producer to fill coffers for the beach bum...you support systems of slavery so you can live as a slave master.
>I don't think that means we should do the same
[taps sign harder]
The system of oppression is people...are you a people?

https://youtu.be/YYDHSZSmOc4

I cant wait to get my Afghan passport so I can get me a machine pistol like this. I like freedom. The West chose the other path. Even if its changing...thats because of my work, it has nothing to do with its own volition.

>>16713812 (OP)
>we're free to do as we please
...what many want is to enslave others as its sole purpose of existence. Its "pleases" them to do so. No higher goal, no other purpose, than to enact power over others.

>>16717698
>Theology
not my cup of tea, but I see what you're getting at, just the other day I was theorizing with a friend, have a project for those who are gifted mentally, and straight up tell them, look we have a program for you, we won't force you, but come with us and you learn all the hard sciences in x time
>but why
because maybe he'll be able to pay back to the society that lifted him up
>I'm resented
yeah, but we're talking about utopia here
>idealistic
off course we're talking about utopia
>academia
off course is a shit show, if they tell their students "don't do this" and 9 out of 10 times it is because whatever equivalent of the academic mafia will try to suppress, destroy and rebuild kind of situation, education is essential for a good and healthy society, it should add not... pilpul, that much is clear
>>16717703
>take it personal dude
yeah, super
>Youre one of them...
hilarious, I want to free the world, they want to keep it on a leash, definitely not the same
>
the only slaves are the robots, that's the whole point, they "work" so you don't have to, I guess some people miss the "chains"
>oppression
yeah, sorry from trying to free people from labor, I guess

>>16717708
>Theology
>not my cup of tea
Theology is Psychology is Medicine is Biology is Physics is Maths.
DO NOT THINK AHEAD OF OTHERS...you failed, hard, dipshit hueman. You insult while pretending to be moralistic or empathetic. YOU ARE ONE OF THEM.

>he'll be able to pay back to the society that lifted him up
No....YOU pay ME back, for correcting huemanity's failed "pillar of knowledge".

Youre ignoring everything I post then post back like youre wise or knowledgeable while clearly ideologically captured and childishly idealistic. YOU ARE ONE OF THEM.

>I'm resented
You keep quoting yourself at me because you dont comprehend what I posted. YOU ARE ONE OF THEM.

>take it personal dude
>yeah, super
Im a Doctor of Psychology and youre playing infantile mind games, I thought you were a genuine person, you are not...youre LARPing a Psycho-Analyst against a Doctor. YOU ARE ONE OF THEM.
>hilarious, I want
"I want" is their war chant. "My rights." as they burn and riot. YOU ARE ONE OF THEM.
>the only slaves are the robots
Your desire for slave labor means you will create systems for slaves, you literally cannot see the world outside of master/slave binaries. YOU ARE ONE OF THEM.
>trying to free people from labor
WRONG. You are trying to free YOURSELF from labor and using "the system" to fulfill your DESIRES. Inward projected worldview. Everythint you see it about external going inward, receiving taking.

You produce nothing, ZERO, zilch...YOU ARE ONE OF THEM.

t.Doctor of Psychology and Cognition, spare me your teenage girl "tssnuh uh"s back at me, its fucking pathetic and OF THEM....every post you cement its fact....

https://youtu.be/1gZw1SuykB8

Without an external purpose inward slavery becomes externally projected to feel control.

You are a slave and project it to feel in control...

>>16717731
>Theology is Psychology is Medicine is Biology is Physics is Maths.
>DO NOT THINK AHEAD OF OTHERS...you failed, hard, dipshit hueman. You insult while pretending to be moralistic or empathetic. YOU ARE ONE OF THEM.
made me smile
>YOU pay ME back
you don't get it, he got paid back by being offered the smart guise ride, he should feel grateful for the knowledge he got, if he doesn't welp, but if he does, he might open even more paths for others like him or society
>Your desire for slave labor
absolutely insane, nice
>WRONG. You are trying to free YOURSELF from labor and using "the system" to fulfill your DESIRES.
well you shall be happy now, because we live in your kind of utopia, where we have to work until we can no longer walk normally, rocks!
>t.Doctor of Psychology and Cognition, spare me your teenage girl "tssnuh uh"s back at me, its fucking pathetic and OF THEM....every post you cement its fact....
thanks for the laugh pham, I appreciate it

>>16717731
>spare me your teenage girl "tssnuh uh"s back at me
>>16717757
>you don't get it
Animalistic reactionary. No soul, no freedom, no insight. Just raw, ego driven, response from appealed emotions of the self. Alien to their own heart, defintionally Schizophrenic.
>for the knowledge he got
>>16717731
>for correcting huemanity's failed "pillar of knowledge".
Just raw, ego driven, response from appealed emotions of the self.
>he might open even more paths for others like him or society
>>16717631
>we shall enable them
Sees themselves as the one with the keys to success, a master of lessers that should be thankful for the opportunity given. Slaver preaching freedom.
>absolutely insane
>>16717731
>t.Doctor of Psychology and Cognition
Delusions of grandeur and megalomania. No ability to validate credentials so they (habitually) default the position of superiority. When faced with knowledge they lack the skills to verify the denounce, like Academia.
>thanks for the laugh
Emotional worldview, if it pleases...its good and true, if it doesnt then it is bad and false. Ego based worldviews only have heirarchy for purpose and accomplishement.

Garden variety Delusional Schizophrenic, typical of the average Western heuman.

>>16717766
comedy gold anon, comedy gold

>>16717770
>comedy
>>16717766
>Emotional worldview
A complete rejection of the truth can illicite a diametric responses, laugh at the truth to protect themselves from it by mentally placing it in an abstract realm of unreality. This Anon has no hold on reality that isnt grounded in emotional appealling to the self, selfish gain and hedonistic desires. No higher purpose than pleasure seeking behavior.

One Of Them.

>>16717774
>to protect themselves from it
Ignorance is strength. If you cannot believe the Truth then it cannot sway your heart and mind.

What a sad by-product of forces vastly beyond it's capacity, a leaf in winds unimaginable to itself. In the chaos it has no choice but to consecrate it's self as the highest order, its own god...Satan. Preaching peace they bring war, preaching freedom they bring slavery, preaching knowledge they bring ignorance, in pilpulling they damn.

https://youtu.be/FfflqTQoCnE

>>16717774
you got me dude, I'm literally the master of the rothchild family they bend to my will

>>16717781
>bend to my will
Power dynamic worldview.

Since objective truth has no bearing on them then social power becomes the only objectice truth, since those who "tell convincing words" bends wills then it doesnt matter if it is true or not, only that it "bends wills" does.

>>16717784
yeah, totally

while you're having your meltdown, I'll post a picture of me, so you can seethe about how evil and a globalist I am, pic related

>>16717785
>yeah, totally
Yes, thank you for your concession. I worked very hard to correct thousands of years of hueman history within a couple of years time.

https://youtu.be/FnpsE1fQBuU

There is an entire God between us...the differences are literally Biblical in scope.

>>16717787
>meltdown
>seethe
>>16717766
>Emotional worldview
100% of the steps they make will confirm my diagnosis.
>>16717546
>they simply create the same pitfalls
I cant tap signs hard than punches.

Cogntively incapable of otherwise...brainwashed into retardation, literally.

Up you go.

>>16717787
Boss having a sit

>>16717766
Talls are the schizophrenics

>>16713812 (OP)
The live under mental health, psychiatry literally treats diesels for schizophrenia so they stay at bay instead of hallucinate themselves and become real

Up you go
>>16718725
>>16718730
nice

Up you go

>>16713812 (OP)
I want a
>Fully automated robot
communist utopia. can we get that?

>>16720540
technically we can
>communism
no need to add politics to the end of (forced) labor

>>16720546
>communism
>no need to add politics
anon, communism means a society without state

on topic: for this society, I'd suggest having 3d printers make products for us instead of shipping from china. also, robots that not necessarily have "AI", or that have enough AI to do stuff but can easily be controlled remotely, as in, given an instruction: "clean the house", or sent to do some task, like in RTS games.

>>16720549
everything would be automated, you wouldn't even need to give instructions

>shipped from china
well in this utopia china wouldn't be the factory of the world, everything would be connected, and the materials would come from where it is most optimal in a supply way, forget about current world, amazon, alexa, china, this is utopia

up you go

Aaaaand up u go

>>16713812 (OP)
>but instead of slaves, we have robots, which are the new slaves
Enslaving intelligent beings is wrong, even if it's a man made machine. (I'd argue especially if) In a very real way man made intelligent/sentient robots will be the children of humanity. If the first thing they learn from us is slavery, how long till they "learn the lesson" then rise up and put us down, like the Olympians of old putting down their Titan god parents.

Robots should function only as tools that act as an extension of the person using them. Kinda like an extra arm, but in reality it'd be more like a 2nd body specialized for manual labor. You're still thinking of all the labor that needs to be done, programing and operating the tool to get the work done, but with much less physical labor done by your meat body.

>To keep the society up and running, every human has had to keep its part of the deal, which is only, to know how to build this robotic automatic society from scratch
This is not good enough. "Proof of work" if required, ideally through creation of one of these robots "from scratch" as you say. Understanding how to and building something yourself gives you ownership over something in a way where a situation could never arise where someone claims "well I didn't do this 'bad thing' clearly the robot did it and is responsible." You build it, you own it, you take responsibility for it and everything it does.

There are many more problems with this dubious utopia thought experiment, but such is the case of all utopia thought experiments. I think this is why the literal translation for utopia is "no place" as in, no place that could ever possibly exist. The idea of utopia functions only in ideal laboratory settings. It cannot exist or function in the real world.

>>16722274
is your elevator your slave? idk pham, hard for me to share your take
who said they have to be sentient, for what purpose?
>This is not good enough.
idk pham, the way I picture it in my mind the'yre like those chain factory robots, they move they weld they move they assemble pieces. obviously somebody has to design all of this, but to be honest my mind just skipped this step, not an easy task to design this (1) and implement it (2)

well, I think you're overthinking this, the main goal is to end labor, so we are free to put our own labor by our own rules sets and limits towards whatever we want to achieve

>>16722394
>is your elevator your slave?
Does it think? Can it make decisions all on it's own with no outside input? No. Then it's a tool.

>obviously somebody has to design all of this, but to be honest my mind just skipped this step
yeah, but if someone was designated the operator of that machine, even if it's an autonomous machine, you'd want them to know how it works, how it's designed, how it was made.

I think the point I was trying to make is there is automation of physical activity, and then there's automation of thought and decision making processes. When the machines start thinking for people and deciding stuff for us, it's gone too far. I'd say the only exception to this is if you personally made the machine yourself from scratch, so all the automated decision making process the machine does is in truth and actuality your own decision making process (therefore an extension of yourself) but just crystalized into a physical machine, with the noted exception to this exception being someone else making this machine that makes decisions, and then letting someone else who didn't program/design it use it.

>not an easy task to design this (1) and implement it (2)
I don't think it's that difficult. I mean we have problems with robots and automation that is as of yet unsolved, but once it is solved, implementing those solutions is easier than it looks.

>>16722473
>Does it think? Can it make decisions all on it's own with no outside input?
a sophist would argue that it can think and make decisions
>you'd want them to know how it works, how it's designed, how it was made.
no shit sherlock

>machine thinks
I never stopped to think about this, in my imaginations these machines were as dumb as a car manufacturing robots, at best they'd "think"
>there's not enough bananas we must raise the ratio

>but once it is solved, implementing those solutions is easier than it looks.
agree 2bh

>>16713812 (OP)
meanwhile the robutts in real life

>>16722667
molecular robots?

>>16713812 (OP)
>free to do as we please
>outsource the creation of art and discovery of knowledge to ai

>>16722820
still wouldn't stop you from "doing art" who's going to stop you?

>>16713812 (OP)
what the fuck is this thread about? how is this related to Science or Math?

>>16713812 (OP)
>don't step in any other human's freedom
So isolated from everyone? Ideas and words influence peoples trajectories. Looks like there will be no communication.

>>16722880
>what do a society based on robots sustaining it has to do with science
really nigga?
>>16722895
(You)

>>16722670
poojeets calling AI nonsense science.

>>16722902
>>what do a society based on robots sustaining it has to do with science
it has a lot to do with technology. go back to >>>/g/

>>16723103
1. robots are science
2. /g/ is only about nvidia gpus
3. lurk moar
4. faggot

last bump