Thread 16715154

>Elon Musk has abandoned his vision of colonising Mars, according to Peter Thiel. In a new interview with Ross Douthat for the New York Times, Thiel has claimed that the Tesla and SpaceX CEO no longer believes a Martian colony is a viable political project for humans to build a new society. According to Musk’s friend and fellow Trump backer, “2024 is the year Elon stopped believing in Mars.”
https://unherd.com/newsroom/peter-thiel-elon-musk-has-given-up-on-mars/

What now?

eugenics

Now we watch as the greedy human ants consumed the entire planetary colony from within.

I proved the universe has intrinsic ratio properties related to metals, economics, and a fractional reserve FIAT is an effort to cheat the creator of time and space.
A civilization cannot find a much easier way to doom themselves at the scale of all 200 nations who utilize FIAT.

SpaceX has done zero real engineering work on anything related to Mars in the past. They just simply lied about the goal of Starship.

>>16715154 (OP)
>What now?
He already did trains, computers, and MAGA, so maybe WWII tanks are next. Or he'll become his daughter's mother.

>>16715154 (OP)
He will meme neuralink and AI for a bit then retire.

wait is it 2024 or 2025

>>16715195
I have been through all of these at some point to one extent or another

>>16715154 (OP)
Yeah, I know. I felt it. In fact, I share that sentiment.
Five, six years ago, I was all in on Mars, on spaceflight.
I don't know what to say. It's just sobering.

Ultimately, it's really just one man that's pushing this ahead.

>>16715154 (OP)
What can he do?
How long can he hold out hope?
When he's stuck on this planet full of idiots and shittards.
We're living in hunger games idiocracy

just like Hyperloop and dozens of other bullshit claims he has made.

>>16715154 (OP)
>What now?

On to his next tech scam, either: >>16715158 and/or >>16715198

Elon's business model was never making or inventing anything himself: he's always been a tech-scavenger, a gadget buzzard, a gizmo beetle if you will. Acquiring companies, rolling up their inventions, gathering East-Indians, into a massive ball of shit in an effort to trick and impress npcs.

Let Project Artemis handle the task. The first step of the plan is establishing a lunar base. Let's invest in science and the advancement of the human race rather than endless wars of imperialist genocide.

>>16715154 (OP)
it was obvious by the time he bought twitter and got into politics

>>16715529
Musk, Thiel, et al have always had one sing at the top of their agenda. To live forever. To stay alive long enough so that their consciousness can be transferred to an electronic system. Or to a vat grown clone of themselves

>>16715561
>one sing a
THING! You stupid voice to text.

Yes. It is understandable that an inflated ego would attempt to speedrun this section of civilization development, but you still have to follow the research list by priority, and colonization of near neighbors is quite far down that list. You're supposed to do good and widely benevolent things to build a positive and charismatic aura that attracts a social circle of best of the best savant A.I. programmers to believe in your cause, then combine the power of your money with their genius so that they can finish the quantum-photonic neural networks that will boost the research speed of the scientists that are researching disease cures. Combining them together extends the lifespan of all other engineers across the planet, exponentially amplifying all those industries as well, and begins to establish a sustainable interest in colonization of the cosmos in your brothers and sisters, if done right culminating in a civilization wide golden age, perhaps even a diamond age. Started from the bottom now we here.

TL;DR: The real wealth race is whoever develops the first self replicating asteroid mining bot to begin consuming https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/16_Psyche

>>16715154 (OP)
Same thing he does everyday. Try to help WEF take over the world.

>>16715504
I would go to mars and die on impact

>>16715283

Stop confusing me even further!!!

>>16715154 (OP)
Colonizing mars was always a fucking retarded Idea
>why yes I would love to be trapped on a dead planet for the rest of my life

>>16715154 (OP)
Kek. When I said the mars thing was complete waste of time, the "reasonable musk fans" on this board just chided me. Guess who's laughing now.

>>16715154 (OP)
I mean, there's nothing stopping him from continuing to work towards that goal. It's just a very big, very long term goal. He's only giving up on it because he can't hype up investors anymore and Trump's probably going to take away his contracts.

>>16715154 (OP)
What Ketamine withdrawal does to mofo.

>>16715504
>When he's stuck on this planet full of idiots and shittards
You act as if like he isn't one of them. He was liteally faking his POE rank for some useless gamer cred.

>>16715154 (OP)
Maybe he could do something genuinely good for a change, like, maybe, help all those government workers he wrongly fired find jobs?

Let's return to the moon before we talk Mars.

>>16715588
Yes, moon and near earth asteroids are much more practical than Mars.

A single starship to Mars taking 6 months in deep space is impractical. Youd have to hope absolutely nothing broke. Plus the problems of astronauts bodies getting weak in zero g over 6 months. Starship still valuable for very low cost to orbit enabling a lot of industry. But I suspect it is too dangerous for human reentry based on its method of landing.

We soon see the downfall of this south african tard. It will be glorious sight. Mars is there but it will be done with national socialism.

>>16715504
so trve and concerning my kekistani brother

Who on their right mind even believed that something like that was gonna be done by elon musk in the first place, also the term colonizing mars is just straight up weird we don't know A LOT about the planet at all

>>16716785
lmao natsocs think the earth is flat/hollow
they ain't gonna go anywhere kek

>>16717364
oh god its that grifter

He will keep impregnating random women and seething on twitter about AI rivals, that seems his main occupation these days

>>16715154 (OP)
Mars won't happen in our lifetimes.
Terraforming earth is possible but requires cooperation that we currently can't organize.
So the next real step is to stop less advanced societies (everyone not of european origin or cooperation) to fuck off.
Literally need to destroy communism and dictatorships and enforce Eurocentric supremacy to made the next advancements.

>>16715154 (OP)
What if his name was Elon Bust, and he wanted to be the first person to bust on Mars?

>>16717850
So he will be assasinated.

>>16718016
I've busted to Mars, and I've busted to your mom, but to bust on another planet sized object in space would be neat.

His real name is "Elon Dust" and he always plays as Terrorist and flashbang-rushes B.
Go go go!

>>16715154 (OP)
This guy is a contradictory retard. "AI is going to replace humanity soon! Oh, but we also need to raise humanities fertility rate. I'm going to end wokeness! Oh, but I also support bringing in legal immigrants who vote overwhelmingly for woke policies." Irritating man.

>>16715154 (OP)
>story has nothing at all to do with Trump
>3 out of 8 paragraphs revolve around Trump

>>16717850
Most of the republican base hates the republican party.

Apologize.

>>16718101
So do Democrats. Doesn't mean any of them are going to kneel before Musk.

>>16718111
That's the point. Trump took over the party and is remaking it from the inside because he understood even a good third party is a waste of time. Musk should be smart enough to understand this too, which is why I'm guessing this is some 4D chess play and not a self-defeating act of petulance.

>>16715154 (OP)
He figured out Mars does not belongs to humans, but to whatever comes next. It's actually amazing he accepted it. Weak minded people cannot do such a flip.
This makes me respect him (and trust his judgement) even more.

>>16718148
Are you retarded? Humans will be around a million years from now, and I have a small feeling that technology will be advanced enough to terraform and colonize mars.

>>16718159
You're a dumbfuck, humans are only going to still be around for as long as their work is required. Once they can be replaced by AI robots, most humans will just "retire". The lucky few who will control tech will swiftly try to become immortal, to the tune of switching material support for their consciousness.
What humans will morph into is still pretty much fuzzy at this point, but your whole biological human bullshit is absolute nonsense lmao. You're utterly clueless. Also don't mistake your wishes of what humanity "should" be to what will actually happen. Reality doesn't give a fuck about your wishes, you brainlet.

Don't worry Grok will take us to Mars. Trust the plan!

>>16716734
>Starship still valuable for very low cost to orbit
Yeah this has always been the reason it interested me. There's no need to go all the way to Mars in those tiny ships. If they work as intended you can use them to build a real ship in earth orbit

>>16717364
>detecting angular and linear acceleration
>m/s
hopeless.

>>16715154 (OP)
>What now?
AI

>>16718109
I'm waiting for his next video.
I can already hear his voice.
"Elon Musk just invented... THE TAXI"

>>16719218
>Earth is a spinning ball
>can't feel acceletarion at the Equator

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxRVE80p1qo

>>16715154 (OP)
Was it ever real? or just a bait and switch?
What was even the point?

He hasn't given up on Mars but he has accepted the harsh reality that Mars is a planet for robots, not humans.

>>16719602
I don't know if Musk is either an elite level marketer, a scammer, or an idiot.
Mars gets 50x the daily radiation of Earth.
Curiosity measured 0.67 mSv daily.
Humans on Earth are exposed to 0.0055 mSv.
Even if you solve food, water, and shelter on Mars, you have to contend with radiation.
Becoming an extraterrestrial species means addressing issues far more complex than how fast we can get to Mars but Musk is selling rocketry services, so that angle at least makes sense.

>>16715154 (OP)
For some long time now I suspect the Mars story to be a distraction from their actual goal, which is asteroid mining.

>>16719634
>asteroid mining
How the actual fuck would this be profitable?

>>16719641
Lots of things become profitable if you are able to get public subsidies for them.

>>16719652
>mining minerals and metals over 100 million miles from earth can totally be profitable if we spend tax dollars on it, too
You're a moron.

>>16719641
a) you send a probe there (already sent)
b) you send a self-assembling factory there
c) your space factory starts sending folded sheets of gold to you by launching them with some energy-efficient methods possible due to low mass of the asteroid. As that production approaches the Earth atmosphere, it unfolds into glider and lands directly at the customer's location.

>>16719656
Name calling belongs on /b/ and he's correct. Anything can be profitable to a company if they receive enough subsidies. That doesn't mean it is overall profitable, just that it is profitable to the entity that receives the subsidies. That's elementary school math.
If you wish to discuss this further, please refrain from knee-jerk name calling, and add something of value to the discussion.

>>16719664
>utopian economics
i would be disappointed if I thought you were able to understand the flaws of your argument,
but you're the person proposing we start a mining operation 100 million miles away to transport commodities that can reenter the earth's atmosphere with a golden parachute.. and that would somehow be profitable to do.
>>16719666
>he replied pretending to be someone else
You are also a moron. Subsidies would only be profitable if it were a scam and not actually be attempted.
I will make it as simple as possible.
It no make sense to go 100 million miles that way, mine thing, and ship thing 100 million miles this way.
Much cheaper to tell other country that you want that thing. Other country might cost many monies, but still cheaper than 100 million mile asteroid.

>>16719987
low iq boomer doesn't understand perspective 101

>>16719668
>i would be disappointed if I thought you were able to understand the flaws of your argument,
Yet you didn't demonstrate those flaws. Surely you would find flaws and economic unfeasibility in both TeslaMotors and StarLink.

>>16720101
>I don't understand basic economics
>Surely you can explain economic flaws in [Company A] and [Company B] that have nothing to do with my initial argument
>(you)

>>16720455
> I know economics better than you do
> because I said so
That simple fact that suckers see obstacles where successful people see opportunities is probably outside of the basic economic's scope.

>still baiting in a dead thread
stfu

>>16715289
gay

>>16715154 (OP)
Hassabis told Musk that his - Deepmind's - AI would just follow him to Mars

>>16719987
Looks more like $4.1 billion that sent a capsule to the Moon and back. Let me know when Starship even makes LEO.