Why exactly, ughh...do so many important Physics and math formulas that do not involve geometry, include circle geometry of Pi so often?
Why is the geometry of a circle so important for everything that we measure and observe?
Is it an irrational, infinite number, or is it finite and rational?
These are two separate things and have vast significance, yet science, physics, math appears to treat them the same either way and put a big fat sloppy toppy 1 in the place of Pi for everything.
Yall just gave up and said fuck it, it works, just slop it on in there.

How is Pi represented by an actual finite number of 1, and not a symbol to simply be carried or marked as a location unusable and only to be carried forward, in so many physics and mathematics formulas?
What is Pi then, if it can be a 1 so easily instead of an irrational infinite number?
You just put a "1" in place of infinity?

The cosmological constant uses 8 Pi G
8 fucking Pi G
What do you need 8 times infinity for yall?
WHY ARE YOU MULTIPLYING AN IRRATIONAL INFINITE NUMBER TIMES 8 AND GETTING A SOUND SOLID RATIONAL NUMBER THAT MAKES SENSE TO YOU!?!?!?!?
You are factoring infinity by multiple times and coming up with a rational explanation for the cosmology of a finite universe?
REALLY!?!?!?! That really makes actual solid sense to you logically, soundly, inside of your mind space?
8 Pi.

Heisenberg's Uncertainty principle.
4 Pi.
REALLY!?!?!?
4 fucking Pi.
Infinity factored by 4 is going to tell us how uncertain shit is.
Sureeeeeee mother fuckers.
Sure.

Magnetic Permeability of free space. 4 Pi.
Electric force in a vacuum. 4 Pi.
Period of a small pendulum swinging. 2 Pi.
Kepler's third law of planetary motion. 4 Pi SQUARED! Were fucking Squaring infinity now lololool lmfao.
Einsteins field equation for general relativity.
Back to 8 Pi again. 8 Infinities. NEAT!
Not 1 infinity, not 2 fucking infinities, not three fucking infinities, but 8.
8 god damned infinities.

*Sigh*

>>16722682 (OP)
Im bothered by this alot

Lately ive determined that pi is 6 phi^2 /5

>>16722693
I am bothered that we keep associating this measurement of a circle with mathematics itself.
We are treating the thing that we measure, as a measuring stick, and using it as such, while simultaneously saying it is both rational and irrational at the exact same time.
Then sticking a 1 onto it.
That bothers me the most.

Simply redefining the numerals into different numerals does not assign a definition to Pi aside from an infinite geometric chaos that cannot be understood except to treat it as if it is not infinite, and it is not irrational.

That goes beyond the boundaries of common sense, just because it works?
It means yall have no comprehension of what Pi actually is, and are instead jumping past comprehension into numerals, in which you will not find a definition unless you solve it and proved it to be very large, yet rational and finite, at which point you would still not understand exactly what it is that you are dealing with.

If it was proven tomorrow that Pi was rational and finite, yet extremely large, then what would your very best estimate/guesstimate be as to what Pi actually really is.
Would you still stick with "just a funny circle number that is really big and we don't know why so stop asking and just assign it a 1"?

>>16722682 (OP)
>These are two separate things
>Either its heads OR tails, quit fucking with me, smalls! What *is* a coin?!

>>16722724
Pick one right now please.
Just fucking pick.
Is Pi rational or irrational please?
Just land on heads or tails, stop kicking the fucking coin back up into the air every time that is is about to land, saying the word "Hackey Sack Fields Medal" making up a new slop term, patting each other on the backs in your secret homo club, and then demanding that be included as a function of physics and mathematical measurement that the rest of the world is forced to take seriously.
Its beyond parody at this point and veering into the realm of global psychosis.

PI is just a measure of curvature. You could you know..... just write it as a fraction if you wanted to.
Which is how you derive Radians, sin, cos, tan, etc.

>>16722773
>PI is just a measure of curvature
Is it though? Is it really?
We are including the measure of curvature in every physics measurement? In every observation that we make?
WHY? Because the eyeball is round? The Universe is round so everything is bouncing off the roundness?
I need an actual no shit answer.
Just because, stop asking questions, you don't understand it if you actually do ask these questions, because no one else is asking those questions, because those questions are not important or they would be asked by the most important people, which I, obviously, am not. Those people, that is. Of importance.
Even though i appear to be the only one asking these questions, which, technically, is how they got famous, the people of importance that is? For which....I am ...technically the gun....is in my hand now amigo....
*Slowly turns and points the gun at you and smiles*

>>16722711
>If it was proven tomorrow that Pi was rational and finite, yet extremely large
nah, its been proven it can't be so, like it ain't even algbraic like phi or root 2, it's transcendental like e or Liouville's constant
also would you like to delight the class with your schizo rambling about the number e and what i would presume to be your objections to growth having anything to do with math?

>>16722711
>just a funny circle number that is really big
nigga, it's less than 4

>>16722787
>We are including the measure of curvature in every physics measurement?
not him but it's cause space's curvy, also the bitch just pops out even when you don't expect it

>>16722682 (OP)

Based. The idea pi is finite is Satanic.

>>16723052
W....what? What?
What?!?!?!?

Circles are a big deal.