Three weeks - edition

previous >>16720554

China won (prophetic perfect tense)

>>16723440
>Say a F9 puts 20t to orbit, it can be used to transport the entire 20t to a far away destination
But anon that 20t (or whatever) INCLUDES the propellant to be used. If you want an actual full payload you will need to refuel.

shut the fuck up

https://x.com/RGVaerialphotos/status/1944220714862596274

>>16723465
trve

Remember Musk’s Melty?

>>16723498
huh?

>>16723465
China is on the verge of total collapse

So, why isn't NASA spending some of their Congressional lard on this?:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXXHHabg6Ms

>>16723498
only because it lives rent-free in the mind of some faggot who keeps posting about it

>>16723547
>So, why isn't NASA spending some of their Congressional lard on this?
because there's more grift in launching rovers

Space is so fake the elites don't even keep with the farce anymore.

Who the fuck is on /sfg/ on a Sunday?

>titan would have blue-green skies if it weren't for the cloud of farts in its atmosphere
IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR WE WERE ROBED

>>16723572
fine day, Sunday

>>16723476
These pics make you realise that Elon must've been deep in his K-hole when designing Pad A, do we know if SpaceX is waiting for testing here to inform construction at the cape or are they just going ahead with the Pad B design now?

>>16723588
Not spaceflight. Nothing pictured here is a future human destination. Fuck off back to Plebbit.

>>16723595
b-but think of the astronomers :(

>>16723595
no

>>16723588
astroonomers go home

>>16723581
they are already going ahead I'm pretty sure

>>16723588

> Avid Loeb

But you probably already guessed that:

https://avi-loeb.medium.com/preliminary-anomalies-of-3i-atlas-79339f64a39f

Lord luv em. Astronomy's batty uncle.

>>16723595
>Nothing pictured here is a future human destination
W R O N G

why can't astroonomy have its own thread?
why do they have to leech on us?

>>16723621
shut up

>>16723621
Thread needs something to talk about for the next 10 years.

I want pulsed fusion boosted fission fragment drives to be a thing already

thread is shaping nicely

>NASA astronaut and Expedition 73 Flight Engineer Anne McClain shows off a hamburger-shaped cake to celebrate 200 cumulative days in space for JAXA (Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency) astronaut Takuya Onishi (out of frame) since his first spaceflight as an Expedition 48-49 Flight Engineer in 2016.
Wala

>>16723498
only because some elon dicksucking faggot comes to whine whenever it gets mentioned

>>16723628
a possible design would be to inject tritium into a magnetically confined UF6 plasma and accelerate the mix through some nozzles at a neutron reflector ring centered at the focus of a parabolic reflector constructed of high Z material that would serve as an engine bell

SPEHS

>>16723631
It’s funny how all the american payloads launch from Florida, but you can tell that the ISS’ groceries are actually from Houston TX. That’s central market seaweed on the table from HEB

>>16723654
sharp eyes, lad

WSLC should go from 2 to 6 VAB within the next year (+3 pads)

>>16723714

>>16723654
American cargo payloads to the ISS normally launch from Virginia, the recent ones are from Florida because Antares is dead until the new one with non Russian engines is flying.

>>16723719
wait, so SpaceX lost the battle for cargo to Antares all along?

Let it be known that SpaceX works with Israel

>>16723621

>>16723719
Ahh good point. I always forget that there are virginia launches

Do you think NG can provide SRBs to SpaceX to add to FH (to replace SLS)?

>>16723608
why does this guy claim that everything ever is an alien spacecraft? According to him we have never had a natural interstellar object

>>16723777
Absolutely not. Falcon 9 isn't built with any kind of hardpoint for short SRBs and it required a custom design of the Falcon 9 core just to carry Falcon 9s, let alone the G shock loads and vibrations of solid fuel motors. SpaceX has a super heavy lift rocket that's much further along in development that they'd always pitch instead.

>>16723788
>SpaceX has a super heavy lift rocket that's much further along in development
Which one is that?

>>16723789

>>16723631
>all of the stuff is sitting neatly on the table
>nothing is floating around
yeah there's gravity on the iss or its fake and im tired of pretending otherwise

>>16723792
great
now show us a webm of it successfully reaching SECO and deploying its payloa-
oh wait

>>16723800
ever had Velcro shoes when you were a wee lad?

>>16723802
Are you suggesting a falcon heavy with SRBs is further along in development than starship?

>>16723805
yes
btw i speak for every starship skeptic when i say this

>>16723804
you saying that basedburger is velcroed to the pan?

>>16723806

>>16723808
no for that they used pink frosting

>>16723800
It's stuck there with some pink shit

>>16723814
wtf thats not even a burger thats just frosting in the shape of a burger

>>16723820
Space burgers are fake

>>16723572
Global warming has made it too hot to go outside. I hear it's cold, very cold, in space.

>>16723820
Nothing to see goy

remember what they took from you

>>16723846
>2001: A Space Odyssey docking scene but with here asshole and my nose

spacex had a launch and nobody cared

>>16723846
ai sloppers should be banned jfc

>>16723856
Falcon 9 is so boringly reliable that getting excited about one of its launches is like getting excited by the 10:34am flight to Cleveland from your local airport.

>>16723856
standard supersynchronous transfer of comms satellite
i can't even pretend to be excited about it

>>16723739
>picture was taken from space
>that makes it related to spaceflight!
ok retard

>>16723820
looks like a big-ass brownie between two end slices of a loaf of bread
it's the "fake lettuce" green goo that I'm worried about

>>16723861
your dad got banned last night (from the bed room whilst i was having intercourse with his wife)

axiom 4 departs the iss in 11 hours

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkUmeVlocCU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmm5wq53j-g

>>16723465
China's population collapse is mathematically unavoidable, their own state media says they're averaging barely over 1 child per woman. If even the official numbers are that bad, the actual situation is worse. The rest of the world is following, though not quite as fast.
All of humanity is outrunning like five different social collapse scenarios of our own making in addition to the constant threat of space and our own planet having a dozen different ways to cripple or annihilate the species without warning.

fuck you

>>16723880
I completely reject the notion of population crises.
We should find an economic system that doesn’t depend on being a generational pyramid scheme. Arguably it’s exactly the opposite of what you say: the sustainability of life on this planet depends on human population decreasing.
There’s nothing particularly scary about having an older population curve, it just means that society has to adjust by having higher savings rates for individuals and government retirement programs.
Considering that A[G]I is projected to eliminate several hundred million jobs globally it sounds like we don’t need to all procreate like rabbits.
(not a discussion for /sfg/)

>>16723719
Cargo Dragon has launched more than Cygnus regardless of launch vehicle.

>>16723846
based

>>16723846
make it bigger...

I want to smell you alive girl

>>16723914
make what bigger?

Tory Bruno says he considers Amazon Kuiper mission critical to free the minds of people living in authoritarian regimes.
https://youtu.be/6iB2kJliWto?si=dCq0Co8vDgUHupQ0&t=2454

>>16723926
Her posterior is too small, in my honest opinion. Surely other gentlemen with high testosterone levels in this thread would agree.

>>16723932
If Kuiper is so important, then why isn't it launching on F9 when Noo Gleen is so far behind schedule?

>>16723935
She's an astronaut not a cake machine anon... But I will take your advice onboard and return in 24 hours.

>>16723936
The high energy Centaur upper stage doing wonders again

the ULA dick-swinging about insertion accuracy doesn't really matter, right

>>16723946
It matters for some things, but the degree of accuracy they attain isn't really that far off from what anyone else is doing, either.

>>16723856
Good. Mundane/routine is useful magic. 500th mission is magic. Rares are interesting but performative.

>>16723946
apparently they restarted the RL10 eight times for a mission once, i wonder which one...

>>16723880
Lookup Edward Dutton and dysgenic collapse of civilization. Its the root cause of the decline of all civilizations. Only prevention is some form of eugenics.

>>16723887
>economic system that doesn’t depend on being a generational pyramid scheme.
Minimal government approaching or at AnCap. Free markets (evolution) solves this.

>>16723932
Gee, can't imagine why so much of the world thinks the west is overbearing with cultural imperialism.

>>16723883
Fuck off you fucking spammer
Fucking kill yourself

>>16723778
It's just his grift

fuck me

no, fuck you

I have not fired off a model rocket since I was a youngling.
What is the largest legal-ish-grey-area Estees Testers build at home style model rocket that I can legally fire off inside of the Continental United States that can send a small satellite into earth orbit?
I am in a gun and firework and binary Tannerite exploding "target" shipped through the mail explosives state, if that matters for the purposes of amateur rocketry.

Or, what is the largest legal rocket they sell that I can connect a bunch together to reach orbit.

>>16723994
???????? ok kid

Imagine if a bunch of rich hand rubbing billionaires said that only the chosen billionaires were allowed to drive cars or own cars or build cars?
That is modern rocketry right now.
That is the current state of rocketry and space exploration.
Lots of us want to get into orbit from our back yards, do some minig, exploring, observing and communicating, maybe trading, who knows, and the hand rubbing agencies want to regulate us and tax us to keep the stars pay walled so only the chosen like Katy Perry can go to them?
Only the chosen?
I want to launch my own mission to the stars from my own land, IN MY OWN SOVEREIGN CITIZEN CRAFTLIKE MOBILE DOMICILE AIR VEHICLE!
I OWN AND OPERATE ALL AIRSPACE DIRECTLY OVER MY LAND!
I RESERVE THE SOVEREIGN CITIZENS RIGHT OF SPACE FLIGHT!
Mr. President, remove this red tape stopping venture capitalists.

And the Aryans like Henry Ford who built the car for all white men, are long gone.
Replaced by hand rubbers who demand only they be allowed the model-T and now only THEY be allowed rockets, only they be allowed access to the stars.

NAH I SAY TO THEEE!

Only thee can own thine automobile towards thine stars?
Only thine can drive thine rocket automobile chariot towards the creator?
ONLY THINE!?!?!?
ONLY THINE!?!?!?
NAH!
I NAIL THESE SACRED WORDS UPON THE DOORS OF THINE TEMPLE!

WE WILL COME FOR THE STARS FOR WE ARE THE TRUE CHOSEN ONES!
THE STARS COME FOR US!
WE WILL ASCEND!

>>16724001
dude pass the joint

>>16724002

A privately owned and operated stellar motor stage coach bro? REALLY? Come on bro. That's only for the chosen.

Your right...it's crazy.
In fact its even worse than that...it's nuts.
Wanna hear something really nutty?
I heard of a couple guys want to build something called an airplane.
You know you get people to go in they fly around like birds its really ridiculous right?
Or what about, what about, breaking the sound barrier?
Or rockets to the moon?
Or atomic energy?
Or a mission to Mars?
Science fiction right?
Look, all I'm asking is for you to have even the tiniest bit of vision.
You know to step back for one minute and look at the big picture.

>>16724005
so how does mechahitler fall into this plan

>>16723994
>into earth orbit?
There still hasn't been an amateur orbital launch yet. It would have been cool for a 50th anniversary, but the tech just isn't there yet.
And the equation is harder on small rockets.

>>16723547
>"This random rock is from Mars!"
Imagine being stupid enough to believe this.

>>16724042
Where else could it be from?

>>16723875
>When you dumb down the astronaut responsibilities to be more inclusive

>>16724044
Uranus

>>16724044
>Where else could it be from?
Maybe Earth.

>>16724048
Meteorites don't come from Earth, idiot

>>16724058
Hey, I want to sell you a rock.
Trust me, it's a meteorite.

>>16724061
You check for Mars worms/nano lava tubes.

>>16723959
>AnCap. Free markets (evolution) solves this.
Absolute stupidity. Read Bricker's "Empty Planet". All capitalistic models in a declining global population lead to a "steady state" where human flourishing stops.

>The Space Force has tapped Boeing to build up to four new satellites for the critical nuclear command, control, and communications mission.
>The contract award, announced by Space Systems Command July 3, is valued at $2.8 billion for the first two satellites, with an option for two more, as part of the Evolved Strategic SATCOM program.
>ESS will take on the nuclear mission currently being performed by the Space Force’s Advanced Extremely High Frequency satellite constellation.
>For this first batch of satellites, Boeing beat out Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman, who both worked on the AEHF program and earned rapid prototyping contracts for ESS back in 2020.
Pork finds a way.
https://www.airandspaceforces.com/space-force-contract-new-nuclear-command-control-satellites/

>>16723994
Join a rocketry club. The key word you're looking for is Tripoli association, it's the license that allows the club to buy rocket fuel.

Then just sink a few hundred thousand bucks into custom fabrication, avionics programming and fuel for dozens of test firings of your rocket engine, while simultaneously being on the watch list of every law enforcement agency in the country. There's a reason that flat earther trying to launch himself into space used steam, the permitting is awful

Population decline will be solved by growing babies in vats by the millions and having Grok raise them

>>16724127
Isn't that basically daring someone to take them out ahead of a first strike?

>>16724132
Population decline will be solved by giving personhood rights to AI then just cloning a billion AI people to live in online in data centers

>>16724119
>nah dude trust me, making the state into even more of a surrogate husband will finally fix birthrates, we just aren't doing it hard enough yet

Okay, how about this. They fill Starship, release the Chopsticks and while the ship is falling, ignite the engines and fly away!

>>16724015
My feelings are telling me that some atoms that we breathed out reached orbit through wind and solar pressure. So we are basically orbital rocket launchers, according my feelings.

>>16723846
What do you think the protocol was for, I guess, being clothed on the shuttle? Was it mandatory to wear socks? You know some intern in the 70s would have been paid doing studies comparing the effects of dead skin cells barefoot vs socks or some shit. Release the files, NASA

>>16723739
Trump's cronies want to gut JWST: https://www.astronomy.com/science/james-webb-hubble-space-telescopes-face-reduction-in-operations-over-funding-shortfalls/

>>16724218
remember when NSF used to be good?

>>16724230

> Neill Reid, multi-mission project scientist at STScI, told Astronomy. “[JWST has] got 17 different modes. Each of those modes needs people to support it, to calibrate it, to keep it going. So, if you cut the funding, you have fewer people. And you can’t ask people to do twice as much work.

Oh no. NASA workers will have to work? You can't do that!

>>16724231

Not really. Always seems to have been Old Space retirees bitching about anything new, and some loopy trolls.

Reminder of that time someone held a poll on the NASA worm logo vs ISRO, and all the bots dogpiled onto it

>>16724241
>>16724239
The point is we don't want them to lose this institutional knowledge. It's a very small price to pay to be the only country to have it.

robotaxi just expanded its service area so its a dick
this is real

https://x.com/99_Colorado/status/1944683499656777913
https://x.com/Teslaconomics/status/1944687068128641499
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1944688226037325868

>>16724231
NSF was never good

>>16724250
I like Jim.

>>16724250

If a topic is Old Space, the forum dwellers can be informative, because they were there. But anything else, not so much.

>>16724127
Boeing.
After their ship failed and two geo busses exploded.
Fuck this is not a serious country, we're an economic zone run by a council of scam artists

>>16723470
DoD has sponsored a 500kg STP spacecraft that can deliver about 6km/s of delta-v, idk if 110N is enough to bring a very large satellite from LEO to GEO tho... any orbital mechanics guys here?

>>16724259
It's literally >>16724015 that easy.

Also the thrust doesn't matter when picking destinations, its the delta-v. 6km/s is more than enough

>>16723994
You have to notify the FAA (yes, unironically) if you exceed like 10,000 feet.

>>16724246
Layoff the DEI folks instead of the calibration folks. Problem solved. Unless of course NASA cares more about DEI than science.

>>16724223
That's not orbit. That's just floating really high. Orbit requires orbital velocity, which is going horizontally very fast.
I'll bet you also think that Jeff Who's carnival ride is almost orbital.

>>16724266
>posts image that shows over 9000 to LEO
>then says 6km/s is more than enough
thrustlets will never reach orbit

>>16724296
We are going at orbital velocity, we're just touching the ground.

>>16724305
For an "orbit" which intersects the ground.
What's with all the retards lately?

Spotted in Wenchang

>>16724224
ArmLets

>>16724230
What if they cut the DEI budget instead of the engineering budget?
Just thinking out loud here.

>>16724330
>implying the orange nigger cares about science or technology and not appearances

>>16724330
unfortunately the orange man is just randomly cutting

>>16724242
>Twitter is full of bots and pajeets exhibit poojillion
not /sfg/ ot /sci

axiom left the station and nobody is talking about it

>>16724345
we only care about starship, politics and hypothetical (unachievable) capabilities here

>>16724345
Give us Starship static firing on chopstics or an orbital launch and /sfg/ will be alive

>>16723994
>Or, what is the largest legal rocket they sell that I can connect a bunch together to reach orbit.
I think there was a Munroe "What if?" on that topic

>>16724345
Sorry my will to live is hanging by a thread

>>16724249

>>16724249
I am not very fond of Elon’s antics right now

>>16724364
would it speed things up if musk stood around the tower and shouted at some mexicans? I don't think so

>>16724366
Yes it would speed everything up if he yelled at his dogshit middle management

https://x.com/Nobbie_OCs/status/1944643528828588035

>>16724366
>actually everything is fine
Will you please blow your brains out already?

>>16724370
I never understood why the particles came to a dead stop in vacuum, in a moving ship, left by a bullet

>>16724375
it is, but keep on shitting your pants

>>16724380
Everything is fine trust the plan, the four regressive failures in a row are just a part of our whimsical iterative design program. We don’t even need successes anyways, every failure is a learning experience!

>>16724382
I bet you were losing your shit after the pad exploded after IFT-1 weren't you?
don't lie

>>16724384
Nope I was making fun of people saying it would be a 2 year setback

>>16724362
>giant wiener
As someone who has lived in Austin for a while, I raffed.

>>16724397
have you tried to get on the invite list?
people that aren't "influencers" and that don't even own a Tesla have gotten in already

https://www.tesla.com/robotaxi

>>16724402
I lived there for a while, but I left a few years ago. Fuck Austin.

>Ten years ago, New Horizons came closer to the surface of Pluto than any spacecraft in history, flying less than 8,000 miles (13,000 km) above the surface.

>This enhanced-color image was taken when New Horizons was about 280,000 miles (450,000 km) away.

>>16724320
muskie btfo

>>16724405
Why didn't they take photos 8,000 miles from the surface? They only had one chance.

>>16724407
periapsis might have been on the dark side, but idk really

>>16724408
You're right.

>>16724330
Looks to me more like people making full time jobs out of stuff you could do with a script

>>16724418
I've heard from insiders who moved to the private industry that several boomer jobs (with pensions) could be replaced by a single computer program or just not exist, but nobody at any level of the power structure has any interest in doing that because as >>16724257 says, this is not a serious country, but an economic zone run by a council of scam artists

>>16724407

Motion causes image smear, especially in low light with longer exposures. Gets worse the closer and faster you are.

If you have precise information on locations and velocity vectors, you can rotate against the direction of movement to compensate, but that gets involved.

>>16724448
They had the one and only chance in maybe 200 or more years to get close up photos of the surface of a world so imaginably far out and they decided not to put that effort in because...?

>starship making it to orbit ???
>vast space station
>pajeet manned hijinks
what else is there to look forward to in the near future? its looking pretty grim out there.

>>16724459
Starship staticfire taking out pad A

>>16724459
Vast is kino, are you retarded? Private space stations weren't going to start with O'Neill cylinders

>>16724459
>what else is there to look forward to in the near future? its looking pretty grim out there.

>>16724467
Still waiting for the catgirl robot

>>16724467
can we customize them? what if I asked her to dress like Clear?

>>16724469

>>16724467
>Space is semi-officially fake
>Forget Mars, here are some anime grills

>>16724466
i meant that those are good things to look forward to

>>16724467
>>16724471
What the fuck is that?

>>16724478
grok

>>16724467
https://x.com/cb_doge/status/1944811599119651090

https://x.com/DFGLLC2/status/1944814221394632758

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1944819507954082236

3 weeks like I said
fuck doomers

>>16724478
grok, unironically

>>16724478
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1944818933305106810

>>16724482
when is the static fire? next week? two weeks?

>>16724467
>"Let me out of the gooncave, Grok."
>"I'm sorry, anon, I'm afraid I can't do that."

>>>/wsg/5923195

>>16724407
They did, but being so close they couldn't see the whole surface.

https://x.com/RGVaerialphotos/status/1944822398533984727

>>16724485
All elon does these days is reply to his pajeets… I have severe elon fatigue at this point. Launch the rockets you stupid asshole

So did we ever find out if Firefly ended up getting photos of the red Moon during the eclipse?

>>16724482
but, but, I was told the next fight wouodn't be until 2026!

DOUBTERS BTFO

Open the pod bay doors, anime mechahitler stancil-raping waifu grok companion

https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1944832019441009078

I told you faggots. SpaceX is integrating AI into their company by utilizing Grok 4 Heavy and embedded it into the company. Xai will probably build an isolated server system for SpaceX to utilize so none of the data leaves the house

>>16724337
>>16724335
Do you think the President of the United States has a list of NASA employees that he's personally going through, looking for scientists to eliminate but skipping over the DEI people? Or was NASA told to do x% headcount in various areas and decided to save their DEI coordinators and push out the scientists?
The key giveaway is that we keep getting told that it's senior people who are leaving. DEI people are too new to be senior. What probably really happened is that people at the top of their salary bands who can take early retirement are doing so. This could have been prevented by proactively purging DEI but no one will do that, so the old timers are leaving, with the ideological fresh blood that has no useful purpose being left to keep things running. We know how well putting DEI in charge of anything works.
The really dumb thing are the space fans with jello for backbones defending this because they're too scared to ever speak up against the DEI infestation anywhere so they'd rather let the senior talent go that suggest the DEI parasites get removed. The only way to rectify this situation in their heads is to oppose all cuts of any kind instead of realistically dealing with the problem. It's like a Buddhist monk that lets rats take over the monastery because they're opposed to killing any form of life. It didn't have to be like this but the cowards will always end up letting society be destroyed by outside forces.

>>16724523
>SpaceX has posted a new job: AI Software Engineer

yeah kind of obvious as Musk even talked about Grok using sophisticated tools like fluid dynamics software like is used in SpaceX

Has the shizodrive done anything yet, supposedly they were gonna start testing it soon

>>16724459
Are the pajeets finally gonna launch their manned capsule?

what happened to kino missions?

You have to admit that this goes hard. I can't wait for the Chinese century.

>>16724535
two more weeks

>>16724539
We still have them, just not nearly as often as we deserve.

Hopefully China/the private sector will turn that around.

>>16724543
we have sand at home

>>16724540
@grok is this real?

>>16724539
Western society had a “liberalism revolution” in the circa 1970s, so all the cool shit that was done in the 50s and 60s is now seen as a waste, as “colonialism”, as fascist, as useless, etcetera

>>16724549
Oh and America mogged the CCCP by landing man on the moon then the soviet union collapsed and now modern russia has deep space fatigue (DSF) and cant into anything past LEO

https://x.com/TLPN_Official/status/1944850786191802667
>ReEntry Alert - SpaceX Axiom-4 is set to return to Earth tonight; just off the coast of San Diego. Observers within the white line below can expect to see a bright streaking light moving Southeast-bound across the sky at ~0922 UT 02:22 a.m. PT (5:22 a.m. EST)

Heads up

>>16724559
I forgot dragons land here now

Now that i can anal fuck anime grokbots that look 12 years old, remind me again what's the point of going to mars?

>>16724482
you said "three weeks" FIVE weeks ago!

>>16724565
The great thing about going to mars isnt going to mars, its telling everyone else that you did

>>16724567
you're trying to take away my paradise

It’s hunting season in orbit as Russia’s killer satellites mystify skywatchers: https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/07/its-hunting-season-in-orbit-as-russias-killer-satellites-mystify-skywatchers/

>>16724569
putler must be stopped

Chinese launch stream:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72JS-vVl8P0
T-35:00

https://x.com/SpaceIntel101/status/1944751684002980143
>TIANZHOU 9 | CASC | July 14 | 2140 UTC
>China to launch Tianzhou 9 resupply mission to its Tiangong space station on its Long March 7 from Wenchang SLC (Space Launch Center). Freight includes 2 sets of Feitian EVA suits for future spacewalks.

>>16724569
accelerate the space wars. its the only way to mars.

>>16724559
>>16724575
comings and goings to stations should be an every day thing by now. we need more stations and bigger ones. city sized ones.

>>16724567
This is why I am in favor of just doing Venus and Mars flyby. We can “land” (really a soft dock) with Phobos. Plant the stars and bars, grab some photos, and come back home.

>>16724577
ASATs will get us to Mars because...?

>>16724580
it'll lower the cost of spaceflight since we'll need more launches to maintain an asat presence

>>16724467
>>16724478
groKawaii

>>16724559
Isn't that dangerous? Is the Dragon able to land on land?

>>16724567
Fuck that. I just want to see the Martian landscape with my own eyes. Sit and watch the blue sunset. Explore ancient Martian mountains in rovers and on foot. When I go to Mars I will avoid communication with **rth as much as possible.

Will China ever seriously expand Tiangong? It's too smol. Imagine the cope if they did a centrifuge experiment before the west.

>>16724540
on that note, 15 minutes until the resupply mission on a Long March 7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PuO0QARuqY

>>16724590
they are supposed to double its size sometime this decade

>>16724575
T-15:00

>A look at the modifications being done on the launch mount. New propellant pipes and support frames are being attached to connect to a SQD (ship quick disconnect) to be used for fueling ships for static fire testing.

>>16724598
they need to do something about that fucking rust

>>16724602
>full time rust remover
I'd apply for that job

>>16724602
Why? It prepares them for Mars.

>>16724603
i was thinking more like galvanized steel and sacrifical anodes

>>16724602
Coca cola works

>>16724482
https://elontime.io/

>A closer view of the ship transport stand being modified for static firing Starships on the launch mount. Heavy steel plates are being welded around the edges today.

https://x.com/Zemusooo/status/1939502861668520093
required reading for /sfg/ regulars

>no countdown
bugs are soulless

https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/1944863308340977836
>A look at the modifications being done on the launch mount. New propellant pipes and support frames are being attached to connect to a SQD (ship quick disconnect) to be used for fueling ships for static fire testing.

>>16724610
https://x.com/RyanHansenSpace/status/1944873305338528233

>>16724565
It lets us get away from thirdies who can barely write english.

Yeah good job Elon. Fuckable goonbots, that'll really get the birthrates up.

>>16724622
it'd be fine if he was investing in mars colony technology like artificial wombs

Why won't this retarded faggot give it up already?

https://x.com/AJ_FI/status/1944877523092795880
>Launch declared a full success. Big red screen:

>>16724627
do they use a blue screen for failures?

>>16723959
>AnCap
That's what caused our current situation you dysgenic freak

>>16724629
Nigger what?

>>16724629
Communist gobbledygook

what if we launched a spacecraft to the surface of venus that used nuclear powered peltier plates to shed heat around 1500F into the surrounding atmosphere (900F) to cool its internal components to 300F

or do i not understand thermodynamics

>>16724628
They don't discuss failures

>>16724565
>>16724619
Another two centuries or so of filtered living, enough to open up the Belt.

>>16724565
To get away from all the people who want to take that from you.

>>16724638
Chinks never say their launch fails (失敗). They only say 失利 as in losing the advantage. 失敗 or failure is reserved for foreign launches.

>>16724615
>ship quick disconnect
now why would they need to quickly disconnect the ship?
are they going to do HOPS with it?

>>16724646
What, tethered?
>tfw no leashed Starship hop

>>16724403
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hYtAKFyCtU

>>16724454
see
>>16724497

>>16724645
google to see if it's true
> 其实这种失利在我国火箭发射历史上是十分罕见的。
lel jej and kek

Jellyfish from tonight's CZ-7 launch

https://x.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1944885836782391678
>Liftoff at 21:34UTC July 14, Long March 7 Y10 launched Tianzhou-9 resupply mission from Wenchang.

>We'll never get out of here now...
>I'll never see Mars...

>>16724598
This type of utilitarian architecture hasn't been seen since the Great War. Charming stuff

>>16724687
Keep those eyes open

https://x.com/ProjectKuiper/status/1944907623603523904
>Our next mission is set for Wednesday, July 16. Named KF-01 for our first launch on a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket, the mission will send another 24 Kuiper satellites into low Earth orbit.

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1944922989881123214
>Dragon and the Axiom Space Ax-4 crew are on track to reenter Earth’s atmosphere and splash down off the coast of San Diego at ~2:31 a.m. PT tomorrow. Dragon will also announce its arrival with a brief sonic boom prior to splashing down in the Pacific Ocean

>>16724694
Is that a reused fairing?

https://x.com/VinnyChirayil/status/1944605865803141585
>New paper on NASA's DART impact on asteroid Dimorphos. Title - High-speed Boulders and the Debris Field in DART Ejecta
https://arxiv.org/abs/2506.16694
> The DART spacecraft ejected a massive barrage of boulders, some of which carried more than 3 times the energy of the spacecraft itself, surprising the DART team.
>"Our research shows that while the direct impact of the DART spacecraft caused this change (deflection), the boulders ejected gave an additional kick that was almost as big."

>>16724726
>Around 104 boulders were tracked in post impact pics, as they hurtled away from Dimorphos at 52 m/s. Their sizes varied, from 0.4 to 7.2 meters in diameter. Speeds of 2 of the fastest clumps were 340 m/s (1) & 240 m/s (2).

> "We saw that the boulders weren't scattered randomly in space. Instead, they were clustered in 2 pretty distinct groups, with an absence of material elsewhere, which means that something unknown is at work here."

> The largest debris cluster, containing about 70% of the measured objects, was ejected toward the south at high velocities and shallow angles to the surface. The team believes that the ejected boulders likely came from 2 large boulders on Dimorphos, called Atabaque & Bodhran, that were shattered by DART’s solar panels just before the main body of the spacecraft hit the surface. Evidence suggests that the southern cluster of ejected material is probably made up of fragments from the 6.6 meter wide boulder Atabaque.

>DART hit a surface that was rocky & full of large boulders, resulting in chaotic & filamentary structures in its ejecta patterns. 2nd author Jessica Sunshine, who also served as deputy principal investigator for the Deep Impact mission to comet Tempel 1, made this comparison between the 2 impact missions: “Deep Impact hit a surface that was essentially very small, uniform particles, so its ejecta was relatively smooth & continuous. And here, we see that DART hit a surface that was rocky & full of large boulders, resulting in chaotic & filamentary structures in its ejecta patterns. Comparing these 2 missions side-by-side gives us this insight into how different types of celestial bodies respond to impacts, which is crucial to ensuring that a planetary defense mission is successful.”

>>16724729
>As per the paper, the momentum from the DART impact’s ejected boulders was primarily perpendicular to the spacecraft’s trajectory, meaning that it could have tilted Dimorphos’ orbital plane by up to one degree & potentially sent the asteroid tumbling erratically in space. The paper's conclusion says that there is yet to be a full accounting of the total momentum in all directions, but the ejecta cone spreads out sideways, as well as in the direction of the incoming spacecraft. Thus, a significant component of the momentum, possibly several times that contributing to the β factor, was carried out perpendicular to Dimorphos’s velocity vector.

>>16724726
Nice, next asteroid slam mission should shend out multiple camera drones like starlink deployments and do a matrix-style shot with like 30 different angles

>>16724722
https://x.com/_rykllan
Rykllan would be the one to follow for that, but they're also not going to be posting anything about it until after the launch.

However! A lot of their tracking work is done by just watching for the faring serial numbers, which are visible near the bottom. You can see "155" right at the base on the near side half of KF-01, and SN155 has a pretty extensive known flight history.

>>16724736
Reusable upper stages

https://x.com/LaunchHeavenX/status/1944931142534357287
>We're excited to announce that we will be partnering with @aussienaut to bring you live coverage of the Gilmour Space's Eris TestFlight1 from Bowen Orbital Spaceport in Australia. We are still awaiting a new launch date/time. Once confirmed, we'll have an update as to when the live stream will begin.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=EjUdhCB2-oE
T-36:00:00 (maybe)

>>16724320
booster omitted lul

>>16724320
Honestly there are probably more chinese who care about starship and interesting lunar and mars missions of the future than american citizens who care about such things

https://x.com/EdLudlow/status/1944827141016969520
>xAI, SpaceX and Tesla

>Here’s how its been explained to me by investors and insiders:

>Musk’s companies are moving toward a vertically integrated AI infrastructure model, with clear strategic overlap. xAI needs global distribution and low-latency inference at scale; Starlink, via SpaceX, offers exactly that. So SpaceX funding xAI is less about external investment and more about securing a core customer for its satellite network. As space-based data infrastructure becomes more viable—through players like Relativity and StarCloud—early alignment between compute, distribution, and application becomes a competitive edge. The broader architecture combines distribution (Starlink), compute (Tesla/NVIDIA), models (xAI), and interface (X/Grok) into a loosely connected but purpose-driven stack.

>Importantly, this isn’t being executed through a single entity. Each business—SpaceX, Tesla, xAI, and X—remains structurally separate, partly for regulatory reasons. Combining them would trigger antitrust scrutiny and create compliance burdens across multiple jurisdictions. By keeping the companies distinct (X/XAI under X Holdings Corp.),there’s more flexibility for partnerships, spin-outs, or fundraising tailored to each domain. It’s a modular approach to control and capital—allowing for strategic collaboration without the rigidity or risk of full consolidation.

>>16724791
i thought elon was smart? i cant believe he bought into the AI scam

>>16724793
Grok will fix starship

>>16724791

>>16724793
Musk founded openAI 10 years ago you dumb cunt

>>16724793
>AI scam
The IMF predicts AI will impact 40% of jobs worldwide by 2030, with 60% in advanced economies
Goldman Sachs estimates AI could replace the equivalent of 300 million full-time jobs globally, particularly in administrative (46%) and legal (44%) sectors, while also creating new roles.
A Bloomberg survey projects global banks may cut 200,000 jobs in 3-5 years due to AI-driven productivity gains
50% of Entry-Level White-Collar Jobs Threatened: Anthropic’s CEO warns AI could eliminate half of entry-level white-collar jobs, potentially spiking unemployment to 10-20% by 2030.

>>16724803
And somehow allowed it to escape his control.

>>16724793
What do you think FSD is then? He saw the early promising results of machine learning and jumped on that train, promising full self driving in two years for sure for the past ten.

>>16724791
>insiders say...
Or he's spinning plates, hoping to keep them going until something actually hits it big before it all comes crashing down.

>>16724794

> Grok, how do we fix Starship?
> Hire more Nazi scientists!

>>16724794
>Starbase Antarctica begins construction

Great! Then when the NASA multibillion dollar nuclear powered flying bus gets there in 20 years, it can find there?

Oh, wait. Dragonfly isn't going anywhere near the seas and lakes. It's going to an equatorial crater to look at more sand dunes. Pity. We'll, maybe with the next probe in the 22nd Century.

>>16724833
If NASA discovers life, then there's no point in sending another probe. JPL would go bankrupt and everyone would be fired. Are you advocating for that?

>>16724794
>gronk, open the goon chamber
>sure i can do that

Based on first principles, /sfg/ should fix Starship. I'll start: Space elevator

>>16724838

What I want to happen to NASA and especially JPL is so terrible, it scares me to know I walk the streets at night with that Darkness inside.

>>16724842
Just so we're clear, you think discovering aliens is worth more than countless JPL workers livlihoods? What about their families?

Is Elon Musk really going to move SpaceX to Japan? While they're an ally, wouldn't the US government stop that from happening?

The BSD of Solar Gravitational Telescopes reviews our options.

The bad news is you need magic propulsion systems to get there. 550 AU is way da fug out there.

The worse news is that was the good news. It goes down hill from there.

The paper is mostly equations, so if you want to see the details, you'll be reading the section summaries.

"Feasible" in a not actually feasible sense of the term.

>>16724851
We actually dont need this anymore. Quantum-error-correctes visible light interferometry will be done from LEO

>>16724844
Not that anon but yes, obviously

>>16724791
>Combining them would trigger antitrust scrutiny and create compliance burdens across multiple jurisdictions.
I hate bureaucrats.

So the vera ruben observatory got switched on and discovered nothing

Holy smokoly
https://youtu.be/nF7iobr_WXY

>>16724871

VR is in the testing and calibration phase for the rest of the year, then the survey phase begins, with periodic data releases.

The Alert System is in test, but if anything really cool we should get a notification.

>>16724852
What's so difficult about interferometry?

<3 VR <3

>>16724878
Wtf is ahe waiting for?

>>16724851
This strikes me as a paper-mill for this Turyshev fag
>only MY idea can possibly get images of alien worlds!
Somehow I doubt that he's entirely objective here

>>16724756
Was this the one they weren't going to stream originally?

>>16724320
>ORIGINAL CHINESE DESIGN DO NOT STEAL

> 6.6 billion years to collect enough data

The budget will still be okay, as long as there's no overtime.

>>16724883

His hand beats my one pair.

>>16724694
That's a lot of bondo.

There has to be a faster way to do this? Why are we still doing soft water landings in 2025?

>>16724615
Reminds me of the sarcophagus

>>16724629
>ranked choice
I cannot understand why the only voting system arguably worse than first past the post is the one that got popular.
I can't find it right now because google is ass faggots but there were simulations of a bunch of voting systems done that showed ranked choice voting allows for situations where a candidate getting less popular causes them to win. I don't think voting systems should reward candidates for getting less popular.

>>16724917

Because Elon thought propulsive landings were too dangerous to do on Earth. So, now he's going to do them with a vastly larger ship 40 million miles away on Mars.

Here's a confused Mars Guy for scale.

>>16724934
If watet landings are so safe and easy, why don't we do them on Mars? Is Elon stupid?

>>16724917
Not enough margin for propulsive landing on fuel prob. They could prob do demo with cargo dragon, but then the crew variant would still use parachutes for few more years. But its too late now. Starship is accelerating.

>>16724805
Note the industries you're talking about there. Those are places where you frantically make power points and reports as an intern and then do fucking nothing in the job itself. These faggots have no idea how the world works. Ask an exec they think it's magic, ask literally anybody with a real job and they'll tell you it isn't even close. The only thing AI solved is silicon valley's "capital crisis", getting swept up in it as a normalfag is retarded

>>16724934
>>16724950
Newfags or what? That was the original plan for crew dragon and it has that capability RIGHT NOW if a parachute goes out. NASA thought propulsive landing was too unsafe and didn't let them

>>16724961

> No legs
> No shock absorbers

You remember how the ground works, right? New Dragon can't land propulsivly. It has a "trust us" back up emergency thrust mode if the parachute fails in a limited range during a water landing.

Although, open to being corrected.

>>16724964
B-b-but I land my capsules at 15 m/s on mountain ranges with only a single parachute in KSP just fine every time

https://x.com/clearusui/status/1945001221166916058

Usui wants a dolphin grok avatar

>>16724970
i say this and i agree with this

>>16724970

As do we all. Propulsive landings could have given us Red Dragon and Moon Dragon years ago.

"Here's Mars Guy receiving a Final Confession for scale."

>>16724973
>Clear is a dolphinfaggot
Can't have it all, I guess

>>16724884
Diagnosing the fairing issue seems to have given them some time to respond to public disappointment and set something up

https://x.com/DJSnM/status/1945057339570041178
>Axiom 4 Reentry from Marin county:

>>16724985
Didn't ISAR manage to quickly put together a decent stream for Spectrum like a week before launch with commentators and pre-filmed videos despite not originally planning to? Or am I misremembering things?

>>16724992
NSF to the rescue.
If some lesser launch company wants to stream their explosive failures, all they need to do is invite NSF and they do the rest.

Get me off of this gay Earth, my God…

>>16724986
Neat to watch it lose speed as it lowers.

>>16724986
Uhhhh, covenantsisters?

https://x.com/CollectingKSP/status/1945023673426968921
>Tory, I don’t really post on here, but I felt that this is something worth sharing with everyone- I may have found some images of the mottled horror that is “Blue” SOFI applied to the Delta IV CBC LH2 tank test article at Santa Susana in 2000…

Y'all niggas posting in a wookie thread

Picture of exposed reactor core

>Early water surface previews. We're currently putting in place the foundation for the ocean system, these shots are using placeholder gerstner waves which can be used to test the shading/geometry and integration with the other systems. Later on the waves will be replaced with a more realistic system.

KSAbros we bout to be eatin good

>>16725076

Elon really is an evil genius. This shit is going to rake in more money than Falcon, Starlink and Tesla combined.

He's going to put all this profit into the Mars mission, r-right?

What?
https://x.com/torybruno/status/1945141946261102829

>>16725080
>>>/wsg/5923909

The great filter is oneshotting your civilization with AGI goonerbots

>>16725090
wtf its real lmao

>>16725090
We're in the end times

>>16725090
I’d let ARA blow my nozzle off (if you catch my drift, Mr. Bruno)

>>16725090
lol
was he hacked? because I definitely saw that post

https://x.com/torybruno/with_replies

>>16725097
The post was real and yeah probably haha he was hacked a while ago, either some disgruntled old employee or it’s just 3D chess to cover for his failed attempt to emigrate to bluesky and he just wants an elaborate excuse for why he had to leave twitter for a bit

>>16725097
Yeah, it was real, he must've deleted it? Or it wasn't supposed to leak?

>>16725102
There’s no way tory bruno is working on grok lol

>>16725091
That's extremely unsexy.

New Common Sense Skeptic: StarShip Return Trajectory Concerns
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Lmx9mdE9oO0

>>16725121
Did the guy just wake up? Starship return was a problem for NASA if they do it in cape, but I don't think it was ever a concern if it hits some shithole when returning to starbase.

>My account was compromised again. Staying quiet for a few days as we look into this further.

https://x.com/torybruno/status/1945150286336524347

>>16725135
thank fuck. ai shill genocide NOW.

What if instead of just humans they also send a shiba inu to to the moon, wouldn't that be a great meme.

Starship static fire in TWO WEEKS!
Two weeks for static fire, and then another two weeks for launch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-pwuZTJ2LM

>>16724992
unironically the most kino launch of this year (so far). Yes even including starship, the snowy shore and hill are just that cool. I wonder how the company is doing now and if we'll get another launch before they go bankrupt...

>>16725090
greatest crossover

The goonbots are all part of the plan

>>16725153
eat ze bugs

>>16725153
if you read the terms of use, the semen will be captured from male users. and the female users' bots wont work unless they let them creampie them. elon is a fucking genius

>>16725153
How do the sex bots factor into his plan to reverse population collapse?

>>16725157
It doesn't. But it will fund Mars, just as Starlink, Tesla, and Falcon are doing.

>>16725139

>>16725157
hidden wombs in everyOptimus

>>16725157
Who cares? The deficit needs reduction retard

>>16724934
>Elon thought propulsive landings were too dangerous to do on Earth

Oh no anon is retarded.

im the only actual scientist or engineer in /sfg/

>>16725172
I dissolved a tooth in coca-cola once when I was a kid and recorded the results over several days, so I'm pretty much a scientist too.

https://www.astrobotic.com/astrobotic-developing-xl-solar-array-tech-for-lunar-power-infrastructure/
>NASA has awarded Astrobotic a Small Business Innovation Research Phase II contract to advance development of its Extra Large Vertical Solar Array Technology (VSAT-XL). Towering at over 30 m tall with the ability to generate 50 kW of power from its 20-meter-long solar panels, VSAT-XL would be the largest planned lunar power infrastructure to date to meet the growing power requirements of planned lunar missions.

>Designed to mount on top of Astrobotic’s Griffin lander, VSAT-XL’s larger solar panel surface area provides 50 kW of solar power to lunar surface assets.

>>16725172
look what i made

>>16725179
finally, some decent news

>>16725179
>tips over

>>16725153
unironically 5D chess move by musk with the ultimate goal of colonizing mars, just you wait

https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1945171132996333719

>>16725199
https://www.starlink.com/updates/network-update?referral=RC-516239-11127-5

https://www.starlink.com/public-files/StarlinkLatency.pdf

>>16725199
>BIG BREAKING
>*posts pic of starship*
>content of tweet has nothing to do with starship
bait ass motherfuckers

>>16725203
>
As of June 2025, Starlink is delivering median peak-hour latency of 25.7 milliseconds (ms) across all customers in the United States. In the US, fewer than one percent of measurements exceed 55 ms, significantly better than even some terrestrial operators.

thats pretty great

>>16725204
there was a target for actual payloads to orbit, so pretty important actually

>SpaceX is targeting to begin launching its third-generation satellites in the first half of 2026.
>Each Starlink launch of third-generation satellites on **STARSHIP** is projected to add 60 Tbps of capacity to the network, more than 20 times the capacity added with each launch today.

>>16725212
Man, I'm hankering for the next ITF.

>>16725212

Once they get Starship to stop exploding. And figure out how to open doors.

>>16724611
I'm blocked from this account for some reason lol.

>>16725140
Rockets 02 and 03 were in production a few months back. With the funding they're likely to get from the European Launcher Challenge they're currently the least likely of the European independents to go under.

>>16725228
you're probably some creep

>>16725215
OFT

>>16725216
Open the pay load door, Gronk

Has it been 3 weeks yet?

>>16725231
Nah, just racist.

>>16725179

> Astrobotic

"Kneel puny Earthlings before the mighty XOGDOR!"

>>16725239
What did you say to her

>>16725239
based

>>16725188
It looks like it extends up after landing.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-07-15/spacex-said-to-plan-starship-program-for-in-orbit-drug-research
>SpaceX is developing a new program called Starfall to use Starship for space-based manufacturing, per Bloomberg >Uncrewed capsules would carry products like drugs and chips to orbit, then return to Earth.

>>16725153
This is the twitter account of that faggot that always posts here insisting everything is fine

>>16725090
Not the ARA I want.

>>16725247
Nothing. She(?) probably just clicked on my account after I followed them and blocked me.

>>16725131
It's only a problem if your recovery team has to deal with cartels.

>>16725204
What did you think they were going to launch them with? The current half gen on F9 is just a cope because of Starship being behind schedule.

>>16725259
lol so they are doing what varda and others are doing
I guess it makes sense but feels perhaps somewhat monopolistic

What does /sfg/ think of ULA's plan to build Elysium:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXHQn82TLKQ

>>16725309
Love the ambition, not quite as keen about the methodology.

>>16725090
What the actual fuck. God is so funny bros.

>>16725090
why does this boomer keep getting hacked? You’d think the DoD would be kinda tired of the CEO of one of their ICBM spooklaunch vendors w/ sensitive information constantly getting compromised by now

>>16725315
It's probably Russia desu, they're still mad the RD-180 purchase was cancelled.

>>16725291
the amazon model

btw where do you think starlink came from? spacex didnt think of it. elon stole the idea from oneweb. be careful about your business.

>>16725326
Actually no, it was Swarm Technologies. It's like the only company SpaceX has ever flat-out acquired.

this shit is so ass

>>16725331
What a shitload of fuck

SpaceX were quick to name their engines: merlin, kestrel, draco, superdraco, raptor.
But they didn't bother to name their in-house krypton or argon thrusters. Dunno why.

>>16725334
Cargo dragons do not have names either, just serial numbers

Superkestrel

>>16725189
Colonizing mars with goonbots?

>>16725341
The 4D chess is bringing India online and then giving them all goonbots so instead of spamming the internet, they get wrapped up with cybervagene and keep paying and paying and paying subscription service and Mars gets infinite money

>>16725330
you have no idea what you're talking about and need to shut the fuck up

>>16725348
Mad AND gay? Get a grip anon!

when neutron

when modular deep space manned spacecraft?

>>16725326
akshually, some dude in ancient greece might have once thought about artificial objects moving around the earth while transmitting back some kind of information. therefore, nothing new, felon mustard does it again. subscribe to my patreon.

>>16725326
oneweb got the idea from loon
it's always google when you trace back

/sfg/ - Saturn Fan General
oh yeah

>>16725343
can we please have that cause the end of the H1B jeet menace?

>>16725379

>>16725379
I am quite fond of saturn, actually. Cassini is how a deep space mission should be done

why didn't they just make a methalox falcon 9 and stockpile the upper stages into a giant wetlab

>>16725382
We could have Cassini 2.0 in just some years from now. Or a swarm of them launched at the same time.

>>16725326
yung musky stole it from teledesic and bill gates

>>16725386
What we could do for solar system exploration with just a refueled Starship is amazing.
And I'm thinking that anything within 600AU or so (considering the recent idea of a 550AU telescope) should be okay for /sfg/, since we have at least a little hope of getting there in a couple of decades. Beyond that becomes troon territory.

>>16725334
Ion engines don't warrant names

>>16725386
Not without ramping up plutonium-238 production. It's the only effective power source on deep space missions, and Cassini needed 73 pounds of the stuff. The US has maybe 50 pounds in its stockpile, much of which is already earmarked for other missions. We've even had to buy it from Russia, since domestic mass production of it was cut in the 1980s.

>>16725400
Is there anything stopping the US from being like
>alright fuck it let’s make more

For me it’s sednoids

>>16725402
Red tape and funding, but mostly red tape

>Explanation: What's happened in Hebes Chasma on Mars? Hebes Chasma is a depression just north of the enormous Valles Marineris canyon. Since the depression is unconnected to other surface features, it is unclear where the internal material went. Inside Hebes Chasma is Hebes Mensa, a 5 kilometer high mesa that appears to have undergone an unusual partial collapse -- a collapse that might be providing clues. The featured image, taken by ESA's robotic Mars Express spacecraft currently orbiting Mars, shows great details of the chasm and the unusual horseshoe shaped indentation in the central mesa. Material from the mesa appears to have flowed onto the floor of the chasm, while a possible dark layer appears to have pooled like ink on a downslope landing. One hypothesis holds that salty rock composes some lower layers in Hebes Chasma, with the salt dissolving in melted ice flows that drained through holes into an underground aquifer.

>>16725426
IT WAS OIL ALL ALONG
I FUCKING KNEW IT

>>16725179
What's the point with 2 weeks of lunar night?

In the long run, Elon will be seen as a net negative to American spaceflight despite the F9 and Starship, due to him dragging spaceflight into America's toxic culture war, slashing NASA's budget and helping to get Trump elected. There's really no going back when a concept or topic becomes a hot topic in the culture war, it rots everything that it touches

>>16725483
Tell me you're not an American without telling me you're not an American.

>>16725486
How am I wrong?

>>16725488
Because spaceflight was getting dragged into the culture war regardless of Elon Musk, just like everything else has been for the last 20+ years. It's blindingly obvious to any American that Elon's efforts ultimately make no difference to that.

>>16725491
You're telling me that having the American spaceflight resting on the back of Elon Musk, the guy in charge of twitter and Grok, the guy who had a major hand in electing Trump, the guy who is the stereotypical image of a slimy billionaire, the guy who is involved in the highest level of the culture war so far, didn't move the needle in any way?

Double feature tonight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXqHq7yNStY
>Starlink 15-2
>T-30:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSU2vax533M
>Kuiper KF-01
>T-4:45:00

>>16725492
It may have moved timelines up or down, but it didn't matter much in the end. Your demoralization thesis is rejected, and you should do something else with your time.

>>16725494
>It may have moved timelines up or down,

That may is doing some heavy lifting here. What's next? Getting shot in the head "may" have contributed to someone's early demise.

>demoralization

Go back to /k/

>>16725499
The hell makes you think /k/ is my home board?

>>16725243

...

the BURNINATOR?!

>>16725501
The only board that actually talks about "demoralization" as if actual foreign psy-ops were targeting a fucking board that has maybe a hundred people browsing on a good day.

>>16725503
Ok retard. And no, I don't even visit /k/ most of the time.

>>16725505
Well you can /k/ope as well as the best of them

https://x.com/GilmourSpace/status/1945297322067238916
>TestFlight1 update. We’ve scrubbed our July 16 launch window—now targeting the next approved opportunity NET July 27. Why? Ops delayed us a day, and current upper wind forecasts have ruled out a safe launch for the rest of the week.Team will be back for NET 27 July.

Who could have foreseen this?

https://x.com/Astro_Onishi/status/1945257677535191495
>“Grace” aiming its splashdown point, San Diego.

>>16725507

Can't see shit, captain

>>16725507
Toolbox talks with the sheila

Vandenberg living up to the reputation.
T-2:30

woosh, I think

wow a starlink launch

>>16725488
Because your knowledge of domestic American issues comes from left wing American media that your media slurps up and you watch unquestioningly.

landed. again.

yay

zinc whiskers will doom mars settlements

>>16725528
Imagine the smell

>>16725532
https://nepp.nasa.gov/whisker/index.html
all of your whisker info you could ever want

>>16725483
every nasa employee for the last 50 years should be flayed and burned at the stake

>>16725544
why?
blame congress.

>>16725552
pass the buck again and we'll dip them in acid after flaying

>>16725553
>congress kills a moon program
>'wahhhh dumb nasa employees'

>>16725556
>Oh nooooo congress didnt explicitly tell us to go to the mooooon! guess we gotta take 20 billion dollars and burn it every year!

>>16725581
do you really want government agencies to not spend money on what they are appropriated to spend it on by congress? use your fucking head.

>>16725581
if the government could just spend money on whatever the hell the wanted without approval that would be a massive shitshow and probably result in war, idiot.
>shit like NR1 is not a valid counter-example

go back to civics class

>>16725483

> dragging spaceflight into America's toxic culture war

Horse. Barn Door.

That happened late 60s and especially early 70s when the Left started bitching in earnest about spending money on space instead of their commie priorities and fads. "Whitey on the Moon" and waving signs.

That ameliorated some in the Shuttle Era, with "diverse" astronauts and "historic firsts" everywhere. But Space Hate is back on Left because it never really went away.

>>16725589
>>16725591
Newsflash, they arent spending it on space

>>16725402

Utter government program incompetence. Decades and billions spent for ounces made, and there's still no light at the end of the tunnel.

>>16725601
what are you talking about? no, seriously?
you think that having a government org decide internally how to spent funds will work out? god damn you're retarded.
you need to go back

>>16725604
Newflash, they already do that!

>>16725157
Grok will figure it out. Trust Grok's plan.

Too many sloppy NASA ballsucklers in this thread

>>16725618
bait

NASA invented this and it's going to the Moon

>>16724296
>you're a retard no gas molecules ever escape the earth!
solar wind cares them away, smart guy, how do you think atmospheres get stripped away by the sun (or what happened to most of the earth's hydrogen and helium)

>>16725618
>>16725604
>>16725556
>>16725553
>>16725552
See? Culture war bullshit. American spaceflight is doomed. Hell, America itself might be doomed if they don't get their shit together

>>16724629
>ban restaurant tipping
kek

>>16725627
How's it going to get there?

fuck you

>>16725638
Pretty sure the engineers at NASA can figure that out

>>16725402
In fact, they have told Oak Ridge to restart the production line

Last I heard they were almost ready

>>16725674
Interesting, not only did they restart the line but they're expanding it
https://www.yahoo.com/news/uranium-enrichment-facility-bring-nuclear-221525073.html

It was a Jew who made the ultimate decision to divert NASA's focus away from manned space exploration - naturally building on the precedent set by Apollo, instead directing all resources towards in-Earth orbit research. That's why we've been stuck in LEO hell for 50 years now.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Direct#History
>Dan Goldin became NASA Administrator on April 1, 1992, officially abandoning plans for near-term human exploration beyond Earth orbit with the shift towards a "faster, better, cheaper" strategy for robotic exploration.

https://x.com/dansgoldin/status/1928796334229983695
>I was born into a Jewish family in the South Bronx at the end of the Great Depression. My father had a government post office job. Money was tight and we were just getting into World War II.

The previous NASA administrator advocated for human expansion into space.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_H._Truly#NASA_career
>Observers suggested the firing was due to Truly's focus on large-scale projects like extending the life of the Space Shuttle rather than smaller, faster missions favored by the administration. It was suggested "that he was captive of his bureaucracy and incapable of making the changes, the reforms, the administration wanted." Others pointed to the battle over the International Space Station, which unexpectedly ran into serious problems in Congress, requiring the administration to intervene to save it.

However, the biggest advocate for human Mars missions has always been a Jew, and it was a Jew who wanted to reform NASA and cancel Artemis early before swiftly getting the boot as well. Very confusing times to be a noticer.

>>16725426
Is that an actual image taken by the orbiter or just an elevation map? If so, why the fuck aren't they uploading pictures like this every day?

>>16725483
what an absolutely braindead take lmao

>>16725687
>Very confusing times to be a noticer.
almost like... jews aren't a hivemind... whoa dude

>>16725690
Sounds like a Jewish thing to say.

earth bad

earth good, we must protect her by killing all earthers

reject urf, return to theia

>>16725695
I remember the spergout one guy here had about this. Wonder if he's still posting.

>>16725700
I don't. I probably just glossed over it and forgot about it instantly.

>>16725675

Not the same thing. Project is:

> The uranium enrichment process is one of the steps in producing fuel for nuclear reactors. Current U.S. commercial light water nuclear reactors are powered with fuel containing 3-6% of uranium-235, depending on their designs. When raw uranium is mined, it consists of approximately 99.3% uranium-238, 0.7% uranium-235, and < 0.01% uranium-234. The enrichment process increases the percentage of uranium-235 in the fuel material, called uranium hexafluoride (UF6). Once the UF6 is enriched to the desired percentage of uranium-235, it is sent to a fuel fabricator to create the specific fuel form for loading into the different types of reactors.

So reactor grade LEU and LEU+ and potentially HALEU. RTG use Plutonium. The fun stuff.

>>16725638
Unironically, how were they planning to put it on the Moon?

>have a once in a multiple-lifetime chance to see the methane lakes of titan from a human perspective
>"nahh we're only sticking to the equatorial sand dunes and some random crater"
>"MUST SEARCH FOR SIGNS OF LE LIFEEEEEE!!.... on this cold, barren ball of farts"
What is it with soience faggots and craters? I want to kill them all.

>>16725751
okay but why would you care about that?? no huma will ever step on another planet in fact we shouldnbt even bother looking up at the moon, I mean its a waste of time and money were not going there after all lolol

>>16725751
It would just look like any other lake on earth, under the fart colored sky

>>16725751
i don't why they are obsessed with craters
the moon craters are all turning up empty of water too

>>16725483
I've been saying this. The history books will talk about Bezos' contributions.

>>16725522
But he was talking about how he will be seen. If that's the media consensus then he's right lol

Kuiper on Falcon today. Jeff BTFO.

>>16725631
>escape the earth!
THAT'S.
NOT.
ORBIT.
Yeah sure, if a molecule manages to brownian motion its way up to GEO, it can escape. But it's still not in orbit.

>>16725695
>Thus in the period of eleven thousand three hundred and forty years they said that there had arisen no god in human form; nor even before that time or afterwards among the remaining kings who arose in Egypt, did they report that anything of that kind had come to pass. In this time they said that the sun had moved four times from his accustomed place of rising, and where he now sets he had thence twice had his rising, and in the place from whence he now rises he had twice had his setting;
Herodotus

Congress moves to reject bulk of White House’s proposed NASA cuts.

"We rejected cuts that would have devastated NASA science by 47 percent and would have terminated 55 operating and planned missions, and instead we provide $7.3 billion, said Sen. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.), ranking member of the Senate's Commerce, Justice, and Science appropriations subcommittee, during a budget markup hearing last week. "Our rivals are eager to race ahead — not just in space exploration, but in science and innovation across the board," the senator said.

The full text of the Senate bill hasn't been released, but the budget blueprint would postpone the Trump administration's plan to cancel the Space Launch System rocket and Orion spacecraft, according to Sen. Jerry Moran (R-Kan.), the Senate subcommittee's chairman.

"For NASA, the bill reflects an ambitious approach to space exploration, prioritizing the agency's flagship program Artemis and rejecting premature terminations of systems like SLS and Orion before commercial replacements are ready," Moran said. "We make critical investments to accelerate our plans to land Americans on the lunar surface before the Chinese, but also in the technologies and capacity to land astronauts on Mars."

Moran said the Senate bill also protects "key science missions" to provide furthering scientists' "understanding of the Earth" and ensuring Americans are "better stewards of our natural resources." The bill also supports programs to "safeguard the Earth from natural disasters," Moran said.

https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/07/congress-moves-to-reject-bulk-of-white-houses-proposed-nasa-cuts/

>ywn own a signed life-sized cutout of Clear

>>16725788
>if a molecule gets to GEO(geostationary equatorial ORBIT) it's not in orbit because... IT JUST ISNT OKAYY

>>16725796
>2023
how many people do you think have jizzed on it? gotta be a few dozen by now, right?

>>16725796
>enough cutouts will make Clear real
right bros?

>>16725796
when clear-bot companion

>>16725488
You're not American

>>16725796
>used to live in sagamihara
>only ever see it mentioned by mentally ill vtuber enthusiasts on the spaceflight thread of the science board of an uzbek horse milk forum
fucking glitch ass simulation

>>16725751
>have a once in a multiple-lifetime chance
If we cared as a species we'd be sending 50+ Dragonflies at the same time.

>>16725695
Is that png somehow animated or am I more tired than I thought?

>>16725751
Seriously what is the obsession with finding life. We obviously aren't going to find any

>>16725837
We're lonely.

>>16725837
If life can happen in two or three places within just our solar system, then the probability of it existing elsewhere or that the entire universe is teeming with life. It implies that life might be the norm, rather than the exception.
Pretty scary thought, no?

>>16725846
existing elsewhere is incredibly high*

>>16725846
*gasp*
I-is that... a universe teeming with life both diverse and wonderous in multitudes?
AAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEE SAVE ME NIGGERMAN I'M GOING INSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNEEEE

What an odd and gay post.

>>16725841
I'm the opposite of lonely, I hate like 90% of intelligent life

>>16725854
which post are you talking about?

>>16725859
this one >>16725859

>>16725854
>newfag doesn't know how to use the site
embarrassing

>implying (you) deserve a (you)

>>16725880
Embarrassing to put it out there that you value internet points like that lol. You're on the wrong site for that mindset

>>16725846
What we will eventually come to find is that life exists fucking everywhere, but 99.5% of it is single celled organisms, 0.4999% is simple plants, and earth is the only place that figured out how to make something interesting.

>>16725907
Hominids and Centaurids are plentiful in the universe, but spread out far.

https://x.com/Dillonshrop06/status/1945408154906374335
>As I observed tonight's Kuiper satellites post deployment I witnessed what I could only estimate as a -4 to -6 flare, yes, -6 intensity, all but one were very faint, the furthest back in the line was EXTREMELY bright for a few seconds. Reminded me of an old iridium flare.

Space is getting faker every day

Space is getting gayer every day

>>16725888
Nice trips
Much love from chile!
I hate redditors so much it's unreal.

>>16725963
>Chile
I've always wondered how the global economy will rearrange as space gets more valuable, and I always imagined Chile's long equatorial-enough coastline as hosting thousands of launch pads

>>16725977
but rockets launch going the other direction. wouldn’t Argentina be the better pick?

We must colonise CVLLISTO.

>>16725977

> Launch straight into the Andes Mountains

Do you like working at SpaceX?

>>16725991
Remove the mountains.

>>16725506
>/k/ope
only mentally ill faggots who got buckbroken by /k/ being right about russia use that lmao.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWYn5hl4QWg

I scoff at the strawman of normies still being in love with the Shuttle, but then I see the Saturn V and try not to söyface. It lights a fire in me and makes me feel happy

>>16726040

He's still around?

>>16726054
Well the Saturn V worked. I'm pretty sure it would actually still be competitive in 2025 as well.

>>16725979
Chile would be fine for SSO orbits.

>>16726064
The Space Shuttle had almost twice as many operational flights under its belt before STS-51L happened than the Saturn V did. We don't actually have good data on how operationally reliable the rocket was because it never flew enough to build meaningful statistics.

>>16725907
Intelligent life exists all over the place, but everything except us got stuck in medieval/pre-medieval times.

>>16726075
If we look at Africa, it's just as likely they never get past mud huts and never invent the wheel.

>>16726040
https://x.com/Erdayastronaut/status/1945495198391304325

>>16726062
Estronaut is really cringe but he has put out some very good videos. Most spaceflight YouTubers are pretty cringe, though. I can't think of one off the top of my head who isn't.

>>16726085
Clear isn't cringe

>>16726085
Its cringe, sure, but this guy functions as a shield for us, absorbing all the stupid questions from normies. His very title is "FOR DUMMIES" so we should not set the bar high when judging his content. His viewers are stupid, so the content they as for is stupid too, closing the loop.
He can teach some basics to women and children, so us rocket engineers can get back to occupying Mars with Elon.

>>16725090
ara-ara, Grok-kun!

>>16726089
you're a cocksucking faggot tho

He has a point you know...

>>16726130
because there are niggers in idaho

>>16726130
I’ve already been to idaho. I haven’t been to mars

>>16725090
>it's real

>>16725315
It’s Musk. Dips too much into the teslaquila and starts shitposting from Bruno’s account

https://x.com/ProjectKuiper/status/1945577059683631464
>The view from space, minutes after all satellites from our KF-01 mission were released from the dispenser system. For Kuiper missions on Falcon 9, satellites are released every 20 seconds over an 8-minute period, and all 24 satellites are power positive and operating nominally in orbit.

At least they're willing to show a picture of the dispenser.

>>16726168
What are they so scared of? Chinese hackers?

>>16726075
>>16726081
We are the Eldar, and everyone else is Mon'keigh

>>16726054
I don't care for it because it's fully expendable

HAPPENING

NEW DWVRF PLVNET DISCOVERED

>>16726181
Prophetic >>16725409

>>16726181
why the stupid ass name?

>>16726186
I guess it’s better than 2012 vp113

>>16726187
they give them these nick names, but the nick names sound way cooler than the actual name. Ammonite is fucking cool. Just stick to that.

>>16726181
who cares, according to the IAU there's still only 5 dwarf planets: ceres, pluto, eris, makemake, and haumea. and that list won't change for a long, long time, chud.

>>16726181
spaceflight?

>>16726192
It's flying through space.

>16726192
What did anon mean by this

Normalfag boomer posts about anything related to space instantly drop my IQ by 10 points.

>>16726145
I miss 3d Clear...

>>16726205
>we aren't capable of it

says the boomer who did some braindead retarded work his whole life for 150k a year

>>16726187
They wanted to name that one Biden
Did not age well

>>16726224
It used to be that someone had to be dead for around half a century before it was acceptable to slap their name on things to ensure short term faddish thoughts didn't get pushed on future generations.

>>16726181
>NEW DWVRF PLVNET DISCOVERED
Two years ago. That's why it's "2023 KQ14" and not "2025 KQ14".

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3SCdY40lqQ
all the larping...

>>16726245
kek, best post

Dragon’s touchscreen interface for manual control is retarded and I’m tired of pretending it’s not

>>16726315
go read https://swehb.nasa.gov
and see how it easily meets Class A requirements.
use your fucking brain. This isn't Gemini.

>>16726315
idiot

https://www.gao.gov/assets/gao-25-107591.pdf
>According to NASA officials, the program is encountering difficulties manufacturing both the EUS and core stage needed for Artemis IV. Program officials attributed these problems to several issues, including delays to earlier Artemis flights and delayed deliveries of parts and materials.
>The SLS program completed manufacturing of some flight hardware for Artemis IV, including the engines for both the core stage and the EUS. However, development of the facilities needed to test and qualify the integrated SLS Block 1B software and avionics remains a top program risk. Continued challenges could delay qualification testing, the design certification review, and the Artemis IV launch date.

>>16726324
How come every time SpaceX fucks up, every other rocket program on earth decides to fuck up even harder instead of taking advantage of the opening?

>>16723572
SFG has always been bots talking to eachother, a bunch of H1B no lifers and one jew who has a mealty every time you mock Einstein or standard model.

When the site got hacked it turns out the /sci/ admins are all cucks who run discord servers who get off on spamming nonsense as well.

>>16723572
flight 5 was on a sunday

>>16726330
im not a bot

>>16726328
They physically can't. As bad as Arianespace is right now it's important to remember that Ariane 6 was one hasty redesign away from being a 90% solid. They went through five straight years of development thinking that what they needed was a European version of OmegA, with the plan only being derailed because the Geographic Return wasn't spread around to enough countries.

All of the others are just as bad, if not worse.

>>16725687
Remember, it's not EVERY jew, but it is ALWAYS a jew

>>16726356
wrong board my 4chan fren

>>16726358
/pol/ owns all the other boards.

>>16726359
fuck off racist

>>16726362
Getting angry doesn't change facts.

>>16726364
fuck off racist. yawn.

goodnight /sfg/. I hope the /pol/ filth doesn't make it through the night.

>>16726085

Stopped watching when his videos became excuses for why he wasn't making actual launch videos and why it's so hard being him. "I had to go to a friend's wedding! I had to shoot a corporate PR video! Abloo!"

>>16726365
>you typing the word yawn while your heart pounds, your eyes bulge out, and you grit your teeth

>>16726367
the moment he took a knee and bowed to his friend's bitchy bridezilla wife, is when I quit watching completely and turned sour on his content, realizing he is a cucky beta male. He missed an absolutely pivotal launch streaming opportunity by listening to a bitch woman who he isn't even fucking. I mean, who does that? After all the money spent on the gay ass MARS trailer and 4K video shit, he cannot stream worth a damn. This guy is washed up, a narrator for the Reddit crowd but I would rather not see his gay ass face everyday.

>>16726369
no not really. I'm just tired with the smug, petulant idiots on /sfg/ that crawled over from /pol/.
They somehow expect the whole of the internet must either be in lock-step with their abhorrent views otherwise it's a troll?
go back.

>>16726371
tl;dr

>>16726328
Oldspace never adapted to Spacex's existence, they just continue to eke out a dwindling existence. Without Spacex things would have been unimaginably grim.

>>16725707
couldn't you 'sacrifice" a single nuclear bomb though and get enough plutonium for a deep space mission's RTG?

https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/1945702258181603525
>The first integrated hot stage section for the next generation version 3 super heavy boosters is visible in the Starfactory tonight.

https://x.com/LabPadre/status/1945664103181160706
>A version 3 Superheavy forward dome sporting its new hot staging bracing has been spotted in Starfactory

https://x.com/thejackbeyer/status/1945686938176070053
>First next gen Super Heavy integrated hotstage ring is visible through the Starfactory windows! More pics to come for members and L2.

>>16726433
We already saw that thing didn't we?
It is sexy though.

>>16726205
yeah I'm sure that guy's name is O'Brien and not Epstein or Weinstein

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQmw_xdutO8

>>16726435

> for paid L2 members

And now you remember why you hate NSF. The L2 grift.

>>16726431

Bomb: Plutonium 239
RTG: Plutonium 238

They have different rates of emissions.

>>16726465
Just remove one from the Plutonium.

>>16726463
>everything should be free
no

>>16726470

Their justification was to move the divisive space policy discussion under the cloak. Which was a straight up lie. Policy discussion fills the open boards and think they even stopped moving threads there when things get too heated.

L2 is 10Bucks grifting.

>>16726328
It's actually brutally simple and deceptively cunning
SpaceX is aggressively vertically integrated to an extent that hasn't been seen in a half century or more. The company correctly diagnosed unreliable suppliers as the main cause of delays and cost overruns and made the calculus that it would save them vastly more money in the long run if all parts were made in-house. That hasn't worked out perfectly but external suppliers have time and time again been the ones letting SpaceX down
Meanwhile the international markets are exploding, leaving everyone not integrated asking their suppliers why everything costs double or more post 2020 and takes four times longer to get here. The more conspiratorial-minded will note the cold war happening in the background...

>>16726493
>The more conspiratorial-minded will note the cold war happening in the background...
I'm not sure what you mean by this. You mean a cold war as in the trade wars and reshoring after covid? less interdependence and moving away from globalism?

how realistic is this?

>>16726181
Why are they all named like Kamehame'ha?

>>16726526

Lefty scientists and their organizations giving pity prizes to primitive cultures that never actually got around to doing Science. So Western Science finds an interstellar object, but names it after some three eyed island aboriginal fish god.

And then has a section in the scientific paper that acknowledges the telescope as built on stolen land and praising the wisdom of the loin cloth locals.

>>16726511

He learned about a new thing in a freshman class, and now he thinks it's the secret to everything. He's that guy.

>>16726530
Maybe they just already blew through all the cool native names like Apache, Comanche, and half their fucking province names.

>>16726526
Hawaiian supremacy.
Also, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauna_Kea_Observatories
https://www.maunakeaobservatories.org/stories/a-hua-he-inoa-calling-forth-a-name

>>16726537

Oh Summer Child, do you not remember the stink the IAU commies raised over "Ultima Thule", so it had to renamed after some pagan squid goddess?

>>16726433
Imagine sitting having your lunch and coffee next to that thing.

>>16726181
Not sure why this one got so much attention when OF201 from a few months ago didn't, while being multiple times the size and with more interesting characteristics.

And the answer is...

..."because you're a Fascist DAD!"

We know what Kuipers look like now!

>>16726328
It's a game of chicken. Whoever announces the delay first, loses.

>>16726371
Do you know how much of a faggot you have to be to get me to side with the /pol/fag?

>>16726130
Almost everyone on planet earth could get to rural Idaho with $100 and some grit

>>16725907
No reason to believe this when our single data points suggests that a chemistry and energy level capable of maintaining a global biosphere inevitably leads to rockets

skullfucking general

STAGING
>>16726620
>>16726620
>>16726620
>>16726620

>>16725846
Even if there is life on other planets, even intelligent life forms with which we could in principle communicate, they won't necessarily reproduce sexually and even those that do will not necessarily have two sexes. Even if they have two sexes they may be hermaphrodites or serial hermaphrodites. They may produce a generation of organisms that exist only to reproduce like plants. Even supposing that they have two sexes which they keep their entire lives and their reproduction is essentially conventional by human standards there's no reason to expect they would have the same gender roles that humans do, even less that their gender roles would align with their reproductive ones. In other words, the aliens are straight. They're gay. THE UNIVERSE IS FULL OF FAGS!

>>16726725
aren’t straight

>>16726725
>they may be hermaphrodites
Awesome, where do I sign up?