Thread 16732229

Burger - edition

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First for Epic Bacon

When are they going to add sensation functions to neuralink? It would mesh very well with the VR gooner experience.

>>16732232
Elon massively oversells its capability. If you listen to how the engineers and subjects had to jerry rig everything to get it to work at all it's very clear we are a century away from actually being able to read and write memories and experiences.

>>16732232
next product is going to be blindsight (low res vision for blind people)
but if you mean touch sensation then no idea, not in the near term

TRACERS rideshare mission went off perfectly this morning, delayed due to yesterday's range violation

Approximately how hard would it be to build a plug nozzle derived Raptor?

Elon is cursed. The Gods themselves deny Space to him because of his Hubris.

Remember Musk’s Melty?

Remember Beck’s Melty?

>>16732229 (OP)
now i'm hungry

>>16732258

Holy fuck he´s round!! :D

Video of the Jiuquan Tianlong 3 launch site (phase 1, another launch pad is eventually planned) with pathfinder

The new Vera Rubin Observatory works as promised. Vera picked up interstellar comet 3I first. Had she been out of her testing phase, a detection alert would have gone out.

>>16732268
Nobody believes you.

>>16732268
>high resolution image

>>16732277
its pixellated for ITAR

GET THE FUCK IN HERE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJFRYmJXGtI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJFRYmJXGtI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJFRYmJXGtI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJFRYmJXGtI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJFRYmJXGtI

Yep, that one's going straight to my Hide Posts collection.

what if elon is on the epstein list

>>16732290
no one cares nigger idiot fuck off

>>16732301
I wouldn’t care to be dẽsu. All my heroes are slandered anyways. They call kennedy a womanizing catholic. They want to demonize WvB as a nazi. I’ve nothing left to care for these days. I want a strong leader to get us back to the moon and on to mars—even if that person were a cold blooded killer of grandmothers I would probably turn a blind eye at this point

https://x.com/davill/status/1948096312383254868

SpaceX in shambles, Blue Moon will land on the moon

>>16732274
I have a posse. They have my back.

I can kind of almost excuse Natty Team for using hydrolox if they really intend to try ISRUing fuel on the moon (no known carbon deposits to make methane) BUT literally what is the point of making a methalox rocket yet doing a hydrolox upper stage. Seems fucking retarded to me. GS2 should have been methalox

>>16732307
>literally what is the point of making a methalox rocket yet doing a hydrolox upper stage.

The same point as the Saturn V using RP-1 in its First Stage. Can you guess why?

>>16732309
he can't critically think like that

Let me guess. She rejected you so now we need mars colonies.

>>16732307
Upgrade it to NTP over time. Saturn V would've done it if they kept the program running.

>>16732307
Methalox is better for first stages, hydrolox is better for second stages.

This isn't hard anon.

Atremis 2 will fly before ClownX sucessfully does a single step of the HLS contract.

>>16732332
source?

>>16732332
A bold claim when SpaceX has already achived milestones in their HLS contract.

>>16732332
>single step of the HLS contract
Considering they already reached some of the milestone and got paid...

>>16732336
>>16732337
Obviously I mean FUTURE steps.
Do you seriously believe they will do orbital refuelling before artemis 2? I doubt.
>>16732334
Artemis 2 is happening in ~ 10 months because they wantto bring the launch date forward. SpaceX has not made any progress in over 12 months.

Anyone know the issues behind the delays on the Wenchang commercial launch site?

>>16732343
>look at the calendar
Typhoon?

>>16732343
chinese corncob construction

Any oldfags here remember this?

>>16732346
There was clearly some issues, both launchpads have had 1 launch each, then months of radio silence, with their scheduled launches being pushed back months. I think it probably has something to do with having to integrate such a wide array of commercial launchers and fuel types and having to rush construction to meet strict deadlines. And of course, any new stuff will have teething issues. I'm sure that they will sort it out eventually.

I really have no idea why China delayed building new coastal launchsites for so long. The Wenchang commercial spaceport should have started construction in 2019, not 2022, all the teething issues would have been sorted out by now. As it is, the Wenchang commercial spaceport will be missing out on the maiden launches of the new commercial rocket companies, no doubt delaying the commercial companies that will be forced to launch from Jiuquan instead. Also, it's throwing a major spanner into their G60 and Guowang launches, right when the launches are starting to ramp up.

China usually does well in big infrastructure projects, but the Chinese state space agencies keep fucking up hard. They have screwed up again and again over the last 30 years. It's really up to the commercial companies now.

We don’t have the technology for a manned Mars mission. We can't even land a rover on the moon. The human body will not survive the journey there and get health issues upon arrival

How do we cope?

>>16732360
I am extremely confident that we could do it now, we could have done it in the 80s and 90s for sure.

>>16732362
maybe some alternate history 90s where the 70s and 80s went way differently

>>16732245
Victim of the competency crisis he's helping to create.

>>16732367
We are not incapable of making the technology of getting and staying there, I should say. We have the ability on paper. Americans BARELY had the ability to get there but gambled and decided to try. They forced the technology into existence and squeezed all the tricks in the book they could think of to get it done. We could do the same. We just need an incentive to go into 'human overdrive' mode to get there (or at worst, wait another 15 to 20 years and get there casually, the technology will come about nontheless)

why didn't spacex just pick a finished design for startship from the get go?

>>16732353
a country with 1.5 billion people does not have massive coastal nature preserves to start building launch sites...

>>16732371
It was finnish from the start

fuck light pollution

>>16732369
The US had the Cold War to keep them warm. Today the country is fractured into thousands of tribes, with a government whose highest mission is to ensure they're all fighting with each other. There will be no coming together to put humanity into overdrive.
At this point only something like a planet killer headed for us could motivate everyone to try to come together, but even that's unlikely because desire isn't the same thing as ability. There's no cabal of Nazis coming to save us. There's no meritocracy pumping out millions of competent assistants. There's only billions in the third world willing to tell whatever lie they need to come here and an army of MBAbros and xenophilics doing all they can to make it happen. The next WvB isn't in Germany waiting to come here. He's in Podunk, NC being rejected from a job cleaning tables at Denny's because he doesn't bring enough "vibrancy" to the company.

>>16732360
I'm confident we'll have magic RNA pills in the near future to rectify body problems.
it's a SMOP
small matter of (DNA)programming

>>16732374
Earthers could be here

The next one had better be a success

>>16732301
>Elon
>leisure
>laundering
Don't think I'm biased, I genuinely don't see it

>>16732351
I was negative two years old

>>16732396
I was 0

>>16732394
Flight 3 went as well as Flight 9 did.

my dad works for flight 10 and he says he'll ban you

>>16732394
fixed

i wonder what china will name the first moon and mars bases

>>16732403
Something stupid, but so will NASA.

>>16732374
>>16732375
>2016
Could use an update

>>16732410
Oh and don't hide the huge lights of the chinese fishing swarms parked off everyone's coasts

>>16732401
>>16732398
is starship the most unreliable rocket of all time?

>>16732414
yes even worse thant he N1, the /sfg/ spaceflight experits (leading industry standard( have all uninamonusly concluded it

>>16732396
Yeah I had one more year in the oven. I'll ask my parents tomorrow and see if they remembered it. Or Halley's comet. Maybe they remember it hitting the moon

>>16732414
grim

/v/ is talking about cosmology again mom

https://x.com/ENNEPS/status/1948133984799478268
>JAXA has performed what looks like a nominal Static Fire Test of their H3-30 rocket first stage, as part of the certification process for launch later this year, the 6th overall flight of the H3, and the first in the 3 LE-9 engine configuration.

https://x.com/katlinegrey/status/1948067933118181598
>Bion-M №2 arrived at Baikonur to be launched presumably on August 20. The satellite for biomedical experiments in space has a Vostok landing capsule in its base will be launched to the 800-km orbit for 30 days.

>>16732414
No, but Block 2 is definitely the Delta III of the Starship program.

>>16732428
why does Russians stuff look so Russian

>>16732428
Btw this capsule is like vostok-era tech Im not even kidding. This is one of the oldest pieces of shit made by humans still flying into space

was going to upload the spacenews report on space/starlink, but forgot that PDFs are disabled.
get it yourself here
https://spacenews.com/spacex-era-economy-launch-supremacy/

>>16732434
Because when Russia gets something that works they never, ever get rid of it.

>>16732436
It IS literally Vostok tech. After Vostock/Voskhod had run their course and the Soviets switched over to flying crew on early Soyuz designs, they kept the old first gen capsule around for use as the foundation of the Zenit film-based spy satellites. They already had a working reentry capsule, so why not just mount a camera in it instead of a cosmonaut? They launched 400 of those things between 1961 and 1977. They've also launched a couple dozen of the Bion and Foton variants over the years carrying biological and materiel science payloads.

>>16732440
didn't one of the capsules sit in a warehouse for literally like 50 years before it flew?

sfg is dead :(
goodnight friends, if you are lurking

>>16732435
Spheres
Spheres everywhere

I'm actually enjoying how over it is.

>That man was our last hope
>No. There is another.

>>16732301
>what if elon is on the epstein list
no way, he has never once acted like he was being blackmailed by Isnotreal

>>16732498
Also the idea that he would bother with women he can't just knock up and breed is preposterous.

>>16732245
>Goodykoontz
give me a fucking break

>>16732484
It took the "turn 360 degrees and leave" meme a bit too seriously.

spehs

This guy was almost the NASA admin and now the job has been taken by another perfunctory politician. lol
https://x.com/rookisaacman/status/1948109663217586590

>>16732514
That's how it goes on this gay ass planet

>>16732401
> Nine Ships
> Zero doors open

Can you imagine working in the Door Design Group or coming to work as a Door Assembly Technician II? What daily humiliation.

>>16732554
The door is pathetic too. Only excuse for this is if they are doing some massive novel door design.

>>16732567
The only thing these jacasses have ever done is kill a test pilot

>>16732368
Californias power grid problems have nothing to with Musk or this admin
in fact Tesla has helped to stabilize the grid with grid batteries
seems like the air traffic control center should get some backup batteries just for themselves as well

>>16732514
Thank you Musk. Doge was so worth it.

>>16732307
you aren't going to ISRU stuff for the first stage and methalox is better for first stages

>>16732338
they achieved some of the said milestones within the last 12 months

Had another dream about NTP last night.

Had another dream about having sex with your Dad and your Mom at the same time last night.

>>16732438
is it interesting? post some screenshots

>>16732573
Nice deflection and intentionally misconstruing the point. Too bad for you people here are far more intelligent than you and can spot society level problems. What's funny is you're going to keep screaming that nothing is happening, go back to sleep, until your own pets destroy you.

>>16732586
this is about H1Bs again or what?
kind of a stretch to connect the power grid to that
and Musk has been for merit based hiring, against DEI hiring for a long time
the competency crisis is due to affirmative action on multiple levels of society, are you saying Musk has been for that?

>>16732502
I can't believe they're still around, but I'm glad they are so we get to watch their next rocket explode in new and innovative ways.

>>16732232
They're obviously going to add one feature at a time and it will go very slowly until they develop a technology that doesn't require brain surgery. Maybe there's a minimally invasive version. But the cost, risk and time required for brain surgery means there won't be many adopters, which in turn limits the rate of development. You should expect the program to continue in much the same way as now, and at the same pace, until it becomes easier to install the device.

The Space Shuttle in an alternate timeline. Early concepts for the Shuttle proposed using a crewed, reusable fly-back booster to launch the Orbiter into space. After launch, the booster would fly back to Earth for refurbishment.

>>16732301
The one time he was reported to be at one of Steve Jurvetson's sex parties, he ended up leaving early instead of joining in.

>>16732268
>ground based telescope
>spaceflight general
invitation to slaughter yourself

>>16732351
I 'member those nut bags killing themselves. I thought it was more recent than that

>>16732372
China has lots of open land
But all the people live on the coast
But the government doesn't mind launching over inhabited areas
So in the end, it doesn't even matter
I had to fall to lose it all
But in the end, it doesn't even matter

https://x.com/accuweather/status/1948382779894554939
>The International Space Station (ISS) will fly over the eastern United States and parts of Canada just after sunset on Thursday evening, an easy-to-see event for millions of residents across the region.

>>16732400
Never seen a close up of the moon like this before. What causes those lights?

>>16732351
think i remember seeing that at the time yeah. wasn't really into star gazing or anything back then but it was on the TV etc so i noticed it.

>>16732677
>What causes those lights?
The indominable human spirit.

>>16732403
月宫 and 火烈鸟

>>16732677
the cities and factories we built all over it.

>>16732671
im east coast canada and see this thing regularly. usually notice it when it goes vaguely south west to north east but i guess thats just how the track changes over time. now we're seeing the descending node instead.

>>16732403
月亮设施一号 and 火星设施一号

>>16732677
Manifest destiny

https://x.com/robert_savitsky/status/1947538515304050962
>This morning Soyuz-2.1b was installed on the launch pad at the Site 1S of the Vostochny Cosmodrome. On July 25th, at 08:54 Moscow time (05:54 UTC, 1:54 AM EST), it will launch Ionosfera-M №3 & №4 satellites, as well as 17 cubesats for Russian customers and one Iranian satellite.

>>16732677
people wasting electricity

>>16732713
If I can see the moon lit up at night then it wasn't wasted.

What we want (picrel)
Instead what we are getting: militarization of space

Space is very obviously a fake bg.
What we call orbiting must be a glitched state.

>>16732715
I want both
I want armed conflict between people born in space (and with Earthers)

>>16732718
its not even Space wars, it's basically a satellite approaching 10km of another. It's all a big scam.

>>16732718
I want armed conflict between me and your mother in the bedroom.

>>16732671
It flies over my house regularly lol, why is this big deal? I see tiangong and hubble all the time as well.
Is it usually not visible there or something?

>>16732713
I'm not staying 14 days without sunlight.

>>16732730
and directing light into space helps because...?

>>16732737
BECAUSE I SAID SO OK. FUCKING FUCK.

>>16732737
they just have those old style street lights. you know, the ones that dont aim the light down. give them time to change over.

>>16732737
Then the people of Earth get something pretty to look at.

>>16732351
bump

>>16732351
I remember watching it for a bit by myself before I got cold and went to bed.

>>16732726
Because satellite sightings are getting rarer for naked eye observers, paradoxically as the number of satellites explode. The "Iridium Flash" used to be common, but Starlink constellation type sats are designed to minimize that, because of whining astronoqueers.

Enjoy ISS sightings while you can.

>>16732762
i can see fucking loads of starlink sats these days, going in all directions, crossing paths etc, its like a light show compared to decades ago. sometimes ive seen 10 or more at once while staring a single spot in the sky (peripheral vision included). cant say i like it but there it is.

>>16732763
noone fucking believes you.

>>16732765
liar. anyone not in the middle of a city can see for themselves

>>16732763
I saw the trains in the sky a few years ago but I haven't seen jack shit since they started using the sun shades. It was a cool /sfg/ experience to watch Starlink launch with anons, then see the train of satellites in my night sky a few hours later like "there they are".

>>16732763
Sorry anon, but whatever lights you're seeing aren't Starlinks. You probably have inoperable brain cancer and are going to die.

>It should be noted that Starlink satellites are not as visible nowadays compared to when they first started to be deployed back in 2019. This is due to efforts such as the Starlink VisorSat program which aims to darken the satellites so as to not interfere as much with astronomical observations.

This is distinct from the SpaceX deployment "trails" which might be what some are thinking of.

>>16732351
Yes.
In a way it was Last Chance to Evacuate Planet Earth Before it is Recycled.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xs5zNf7WhgM

I miss them

High res

>>16732797
>Dead sea turtles cascade from the wreckage.

But! But! That one anon insisted Trump is not only hostile to Elon but more so than Biden was!

>>16732351
3rd ever interestellar object will be coming relatively close to earth by November-December , i'll have my telescope ready

>>16732803
How hard is it to clean bad dust off a telescope mirror? I'm afraid to scratch it up but I want to use it again.

>>16732808
How bad are we talking about? As a general idea I'd suggest the same sort of kit you'd use for eyeglass cleaning. Those usually come with a spiritizing bottle of cleaning solution and a microfiber cloth. That'd probably work fine as long as you can get access to the mirror and the dust isn't particularly caked on. If you're a bit more paranoid about actually touching the mirror, some kind of liquid cleaning followed by air drying should work.

>>16732803
>3rd ever interestellar object will be coming relatively close to earth by November-December , i'll have my telescope ready
Unless you have a telescope on Mars, you will not: at close approach, the comet is behind the sun relative to the Earth.

Elon headed for the Tijuana Jail.

>>16732822
The fuck she gonna do? Invade Texas?

>>16732707
>Moonifest Destiny

To decomision the ISS without a solid program to get to Mars basically kills a Mars program becuase permenant life support will become a lost technology.

>>16732802
This Epstien shit is backfiring so hard, he is TACOing on everything. inb4 he steps down after the midterms.

>>16732832
Sort of makes no difference now if we keep something as old as the ISS’s 20+ yr old life support system online or not. Everyone who designed it is long-retired or dead now

>Elon very visibly crashes out with trump
>mere weeks later, trump is publicly outted as a PDF file
Every time Elon seems to make a mistake, he turns out to be right. How does he do it?

>>16732832
Elon is already working on life support for his Martian megacity. No, wait. He's actually working on this instead.

>>16732834
I really supported this piece of shit , i though it would be great this time. Elon joining felt fresh but he's smarter and knew went to back out and leave the sinking ship. Elon or nobody , thats it.

>>16732828
They already tried it and got their ass handed to them at san jacinto. Remember the Alamo, anons

>>16732832
there are several private programs developing similar ECS equipment. Even Nasa has been running real time mars colony simulations for quite a while. The chinese somehow managed to make their own space station ECS too. Its probably nothing to worry about.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1948432437744468011
>SpaceX direct to cell phone growing fast

>>16732839
he has certain charisma

>>16732839
"Fell for it again award"

>>16732839
>"Hello fellow children."

>>16732836
This is the guy who talked about grabbing the pussies of young contestants as a crusty old man. So idk what is supposed to be in the files that is extremely damaging and revelatory.

>>16732868
The files were literally written by the OBAMA DOJ so they are full of falsehoods.

>>16732868
>This is the guy who talked about grabbing the pussies of young contestants as a crusty old man.

see >>16732858

>>16732869
Cope!

https://x.com/nasahqphoto/status/1948467087770333433
>Senegal signed the Artemis Accords today, joining 55 other nations from all over the world committed to the peaceful and safe exploration of space

This makes two nations that have signed on with both Artemis and ILRS.

To drag things even fractionally back to on-topic, space exploration is becoming a partisan wedge issue and shitlibs are completely on the wrong side of it.

"I Fucking Love Science" redditors jerk off when Starship tests fail, praying for it to be canceled, and bemoan Jeff Bezos sending his future ex-wives to the Karman Line. Trump is the first president in decades who even pretended to be vaguely interested in space, although surely its appeal to him is its simple grandiosity.

Obama signed off on SpaceX in the first place, but he also put that asshole in charge of NASA who said that NASA's three priorities should be fighting climate change, educating children and Muslim outreach, and sort of forgot to mention sending people into fucking space
And aside from that, Obama was a decade ago and things have gotten worse. People are downright Gil Scott Heron-pilled now. Bernie Sanders space policy literally said "We should stop worrying about wasting money on space until we've fixed our problems here on earth"
He was the guy everybody wanted to be President *so* bad

>>16732877
so its bad, but could be so much worse

Inspiring children to care about space isn't a bad goal (as long as you actually do it.)

>>16732881
whether its good or not, its not something NASA should be concerned with

>>16732376
>an army of MBAbros and xenophilics doing all they can to make it happen
I've never heard them called that before.

>Entire starlink network down worldwide
So much for redundancy, I guess?

>>16732868
“there is nothing in the world like first-rate pussy.”

>>16732883
Depends on how you look at it. Imagine the kind of shit one would have to pull to actually get most kids' attention. You know, within spaceflight.

*sigh*

>$TSLA down 9% today
You all bought the dip right?

>>16732894
What dip? It's just a correction since free government money is over.

H1B dialed 1.1.1.0 in again.

>>16732893
i wonder what the issue is. ground stations? something affecting the earth side computers? solar flare?

is it everywhere or only a certain track?

>>16732893
intredasting

crikey. does this happen often?

>>16732901
Naur very rare. Somebody fucked somethin’ up

>>16732898
Worldwide.

>>16732889
accomplish cool shit? seems like much better outreach than trying to recruit children that aren't interested

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1948480899579887651

so they know what it is

>>16732911
clearly aliens

>>16732910
Well, Americans in general aren't interested. And that's a problem because missions have to go through Congress.

>>16732917
having some ISS janitors tour schools is not going to help

Good evening, gentleman.

I am upset at the prospect of all russian cooperation ending after ISS. We have a strong, historical relationship that doesn’t deserve to be tossed out the window into the mud.

https://x.com/LMSpace/status/1948497545929297922
>We see commercial services for Orion as a phased approach that could start with providing more fundamental services at a fixed price with less oversight, more efficiency and could significantly lower costs.

>>16732932
lmaoo

>>16732893
oh it was that. I was afraid my antenna was damaged. thanks
>>16732881
The way they are doing it right now fucking sucks. Astronauts may as well be F1 drivers in how bland they are. The engineers back then even look cool despite being dressed like stereotypical salary men. It's an issue that is happening in several important areas and it's becoming a problem because almost every city slicker kid wants to be an influencer

Starting 2025 i couldnt even imagine the scenario where we are now , with the last 3 flights ended in catastrophe and 4 ships in a row ending either reentering in flames or in a explosion.

>>16732946
such is life

>>16732924
The Russian will to chimp out on earth is too strong for the west to handle

>>16732946
It's already a successful program (could've delivered payloads to orbit), they just keep pushing material limits
>>16732924
They're the ones being aggressive. Crimea, Ukraine, INF, START etc.

>>16732944
>Astronauts may as well be F1 drivers in how bland they are
There is merit in having highly trained people, but the best thing they could possibly do is send up people who are young and attractive. That's all they need to do. Since all the astornauts are old-headsand the women are sub 2s nobody cares.

>>16732946
You were deluded. Sucesses were always miracles rather tha repeatable feats. The program is fucked. the "Ice in the tanks" truthers were proven 100% right and theproblem has never been solved. IMO its the cause of the most recent booster RUD.
>>16732950
>they just keep pushing material limits
holy cope.
They are not pushing matrial limits. BO with their collapsing second stages due to being too thin are pushing material limits. Starship is grossly overweight and still explodes.

>>16732911
All their shit is automated so this is likely a technician fucking up. Instead of blaming the guy they're accurately addressing the process that permitted it in the first place.

>>16732932
pic unrelated

>>16732954
>BO with their collapsing second stages due to being too thin are pushing material limits

That was ULA.

>>16732945
Oh, that’s gore of my comfort character

FREEDOM FIGHTERS SENT OUT TO THE SUN
ESCAPE FROM BRAINWASHED MINDS AND POLLUTION
LEAVE THE EARTH TO ALL ITS SIN AND HATE
FIND ANOTHER WORLD WHERE FREEDOM WAITS

>>16732950
>>16732954

I'll tell you the real reason why the three last flight ended in disaster. They are pushing the Raptors 2's to their absolute limits. Starship still has a huge dry mass problem , with the introduction of V2 , with larger tanks but the same amount of engines , the thing that needs to scale up to keep up is engine thrust. Also, yes , the new "squid" design in the transfer tubes might have something to do, but V1 was never pushed to the limits in terms of raw power, NEVER. Starship and the booser CANNOT weight 130-140 and 240 tons respectively. Booster is more robust and in my opinion has had a fair amount of luck .

>>16732950
>could've delivered payloads to orbit!
>can't open a door

You may only pick one.

>>16732938
i love the landings. the landings are very cool.

>>16732970
Very shameful and dishonorable

>>16732970
it means they had a hack or something fucked up because of too much traffic. still, pretty good for such a massive network.

>>16732970
>we will fully root cause this issue

Like you fully root cause your exploding rocket ships? Because you don't seem so great at root causing.

>>16732932
“Commercial Orion” hopefully means a bridenstine stack

>>16732963
>They are pushing the Raptors 2's to their absolute limits
This is one area among thousands whichmake me skeptical offull and rapid reuse ever working. BE4 has way less impressive stats tha Raptor, because as Bezos says 'you want an efficient highthrust engine and then run it safely below it's limits' for a long reusable lifespan. Raptor is getting absolutely raped. Raptor 3 isnt even refurbishable. If they have accepted that Raptors are basically just consumable parts that need frequent replacements then its more of a big dum booster tha a rapidly reusable rocket

>>16732657
literally only was an issue due to hypergolic upper stages though

I support my president whether or not he visited a fellow NYC billionaires private island 40 years ago

>>16732972
>massive network.

Star link is currently the size of a medium cable tv service or smaller cell phone provider. 6 million subscribers isn't that big.

r8 the BF6 trailer

>>16732841
the Alamo just got Pee Wee's bicycle, fr no cap

>>16732768
you're right
astronomers are huge faggots

>>16732980
Is there speac

>>16732822
lmao, Americans working illegally in Mexico?
Damn, that would be so unfair to Mexico

>>16732973
Name two reoccuring failure modes.

>>16732991
you know its not a real country when they "elect" a jew

>>16732946
don't forget the spontaneous explosion that destroyed their test stand. That has proved to be more of a development setback than expected.

>>16732993
Trump is a jew.

>>16732972
Not saying it was China. But it was China.

elon is a push to prod kinda guy

>>16732990
no, zero spess

https://x.com/Alexphysics13/status/1948531110490652966
>SLC-37 render

>>16733022
Looks pretty "slick" to me

>>16733022
looks like upscaled screenshot of the city phase of Spore

>>16732945
Shai-Hulud

>>16733022
The first double pad explosion will be sick.

/sfg/ has a DNR order

zena enjoys power lifting as one of her hobbies

>>16732884
The people of whom you speak are upstream of those I mentioned, so, yes, from a root cause analysis, the usual suspects are involved.
>>16732885
Strange that several telecoms in the UK are also down at the same time.

>>16733042
BGP issue supposedly

>>16733039
can the anon who does space waifu feets kindly do her?

>>16733045
yikes anon

White dwarf Pulsar flinging its relativistic jet into its companion red dwarf. Much to think about.

>>16733048
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR_Scorpii
cool
post more galactic oddities

>>16733045
>>16733039
even better, her powerlifting in space but nude or almost fully nude and sweating

gpts are useful for shit like this. sure saves time looking for lists.

1. SS 433 – A microquasar with relativistic jets precessing in a corkscrew pattern, embedded in the W50 supernova remnant. Exhibits baryonic jet material at ~0.26c.
2. RX J0806.3+1527 – Ultra-compact binary with 321-second orbital period; likely two white dwarfs spiraling inward due to gravitational wave radiation.
3. J0651+2844 – Detached white dwarf binary orbiting every 12.75 minutes, losing orbital energy via gravitational waves.
4. VFTS 352 – Contact binary of two massive O-type stars sharing material. Possibly a progenitor of a long gamma-ray burst or black hole merger.
5. PSR J0348+0432 – A 2.01 solar mass neutron star with a white dwarf companion in a tight 2.46-hour orbit, testing general relativity under strong-field conditions.
6. KIC 8462852 (Tabby’s Star) – Irregular, deep dimming events with no clear periodicity; ruled out planets, possibly comet swarms or circumstellar dust.
7. HD 101065 (Przybylski’s Star) – Contains spectral lines of short-lived radioactive elements like promethium, possibly due to neutron capture or exotic processes.
8. 1I/ʻOumuamua – Interstellar object with high aspect ratio, non-gravitational acceleration, and no outgassing; origin and nature remain debated.
9. Hoag’s Object – Nearly perfect ring galaxy with no clear cause. Not a classic collision ring or polar ring.
10. ZTF J1901+1458 – The most massive white dwarf detected (1.35 solar masses), possibly formed from a merger, on the brink of collapse into a neutron star.
11. GCRT J1745–3009 – A transient radio source near the Galactic Center, emitting 10-minute-long bursts every 77 minutes, nature uncertain.
12. XTE J1739−285 – Possible neutron star spinning at ~1122 Hz (unconfirmed), which would be at the limit of neutron star breakup.

>>16733052
exactly, and I bet thats just the generic list with its most activated concepts for that feature, you can prompt it specifically intentionally for non-cliche, common, or well-known but still odd and unusual objects and probably get it to dig even deeper

https://x.com/luke_leisher_/status/1948468612387536975

Judge agrees with SpaceX that they can sue California Coastal board.

elongating gluon tube is the name of my new synth band

https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1948445561608196606

what a flex/power move

So why is the moon carbon poor if its made form the same material as Earth? How is this even possible? Doesn't that indicate that our theory of the formation of the moon is wrong?

>>16732979
its everywhere, lets be honest. hiccups happpen

>>16733062
I wonder how hard a MiG-29 is to fly.

>>16733005
fucking china. they wont win

>>16733026
shai halud

>>16733063
dont ask questions just consoom soience and wait for the next expensive telescope

>>16733063
Carbon is very volatile. Earth is less than 1% carbon but we have strange hydrological and biological processes that concentrate it even further. Something smaller like the Moon, forming from accreted rings and other pieces of earth smashed and thrown up into orbit and ultimately accreted into a spherical body that melted itself and steamed out into the vacuum, would have seen that concentration of carbon nose dive even lower

>>16733048
Does this hurt the star

>>16733088
It would be extremely painful.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
https://images.nasa.gov/details/jsc2025e064345
https://images.nasa.gov/details/jsc2025e064345
https://images.nasa.gov/details/jsc2025e064345

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1948568264893686111
>Shortly before the next flight, I will do a live technical update on Starship, going over progress to date and engineering/production/launch plans for the future.

>>16732241

>tell me you're a spaceplane fanboy without telling me your a spaceplane fanboy

so what took out starlink?

>>16732768
>You)
i see them. the sky will be bye my witness

>>16733090
lol
>chatgpt yellow sepia tone filter
lmao

>>16733090
kek, now that i think about it, meditating on space must be way easier and feel better.

>>16733090
oh no NASA sisters.... whats this?????
>>16733091
didn't we just get one right after flight 9?
>live technical update
Hopefully, there will be less yapping about preserving consciousness or whatever and actual technical information

>>16733104
It'll be him streaming PoE 2 and talking about how he's actually really good at it

>>16732232
>Tell me you're an H1b without telling me you're an H1b
>>16732237
>Grifter oversells product
news at 11

>>16732245
>Refuse to pay for quality engineers and import them from the third world instead
>WhY iS eVeRyThInG ShIt

>>16732586
You're arguing with an H1b.

have they fixed the door yet

>>16732377
>RNA pills in the near future
You're delusional sorry.

>>16732332
China will land on the Moon before SpaceX even does a single orbital refueling test. Screenshot this

>>16733137
super AI in 2028 will figure out protein mixtures and DNA splicing to solve every disease and extend life.

>>16732369
Don't worry, whatever's achievable will be achieved by China.

Anyway, looks like China finally unfucked their issues with the wenchang commerical spaceport, with both launchpads finally having upcoming launches next week for real this time. I wonder if they finally unfucked permanently, and it will have it's promised biweekly launch rate, or will they continue to have issues with it after every launch? I wonder if the launchpads will be ready in time for the upcoming maiden launches of the various commercial rockets, or will they be forced to the sub-optimal Jiuquan launch center instead.

And it looks like they're prioritizing Guowang launches over G60. Which matches up with the SCMP article about the G60 having issues with finding launch providers. Looks like the LM rockets will be having Guowang launches more often than G60 launches. On the plus side, this means an even larger pent up demand for the commercial rockets once they do get up and running, since the CZ series isn't doing so hot on their launch rate and if they are gonna to be reserved for Guowang launches. I might have to revise my estimate for just how many Chinese commerical rocket companies can survive in the future.

>>16732946
Thunderchad laughing at you psychopath worshipping imbeciles.

>>16733104
That talk was specifically about mars, seems like this is aimed at the technical and operational aspects of Starship itself

>>16733048
cosmic skewer hmmm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4GWe7hlhnU
Soyuz launch in 8 min if anyone's awake

sfg - soyuz fan general

This is my house on mars

this is my house in mars

>>16733205
>>16733192
Just get a house in Pahrump

>>16733192
been there. aint on mars buddy

AI-fags will be thrown out of the airlock
Last warning

>>16733206
tell ya, Pahrump aint on mars either.
no matter what A Bell tells ya

Closest thing to Mars here is Valley of Fire
Its a nice place to visit

You can even buy and launch fireworks from the Paiutes off the interstate

>>16732875
What does the space program of Senegal look like?

>>16732875
I feel like a lot of nations are starting to regret joining the Artemis Accords, since Artemis III keeps getting delayed. What used to be a 2026-2027 landing date is now somewhere past 2030, and Starship keep having so much issues. Also the entire future of Artemis program post Artemis III and other programs like the lunar gateway are up in the air. It's not impossible that the entire Artemis program gets cancelled post Artemis III or heavily de-funded, something that would have been considered impossible just a year old. Also multi-national programs like Lunar gateway getting cancelled must be a kick in the teeth for ESA, whom is already halfway though making the parts for some of the modules.

Not to mention the issues that major partner nations have with both Trump and Elon Musk, who are key figure behind Artemis and American spaceflight. If not for Russia being involved so heavily with the ILRS, I think Europe would be double dipping or some of them would have switched teams by now. Once again, Russia find ways to screw with her allies.

I do wonder if China lands before Artemis III, and if Lunar Starship still has issues, and Artemis III is still years away, if America will just cancel Artemis III all together, with the logic of "well China already landed, and our landing is still years away, so I give up, why even bother for something that doesn't generate any profit"

>>16733235
the artemis accords have very little to do with the artemis program. They're more about committing to a general feel good usage of space, as well as following standards for depots, docking, etc, and sharing science that is collected on your own space missions with everyone else

>>16733238
90% of the Artemis Accords is just common sense stuff that's already mostly covered in the outer space treaty. The real juicy stuff, and the reason why it's called the Artemis Accords instead of "outer space treaty 2.0", is the provision that allows for claiming of "territory" and resource extraction. Which for obvious reasons, are only relevant on the Moon. And utterly useless if nobody in the Artemis Accords has any lunar bases or lunar infrastructure.

Also, it's clear that while the two are not officially linked, if you want to take part in the Artemis program. you need to be part of the Artemis Accords too.

>>16733207
crawl up my ass and take a big whiff asshole

>>16733206
i already live on mars (arizona). jpl has a soundstage set up in the lot behind mine

>>16733238
actually the Accords are a way of getting other countries to sign onto a very flimsy reinterpretation of the OST, while being able to claim the OST is not being broken. it's just explpiting legal loopholes and American soft powet

>>16732498
he's acted like he's being blackmailed by China or Russia but not Isreal, yeah

>>16733246
? did you miss the humiliation ritual where he went to auschwitz to get the ADL to tell advertizers to come back to X after the antisemitism scare? did you miss the goofy necklace he displayed, claiming he will never take it off until the last hostage is returned? lmao

>>16733241
doesnt smell like mars pal, but its not good. how i wish for vacuum

>>16732498
LOL

>>16732229 (OP)
What is your timeline for Starship?

>>16733282
today, tomorrow... starship will succeed

>>16733282
2 weeks

>>16733200
"Mars in 2026: The AI Experience"

>>16733200
>Shortly before
So just like the the Mars game plan talk that was supposed to happen before flight 9?

>>16733090
>(7/16/2025) --- The Mind/Body Practices for Deep Space Exploration (RelaxPro) investigation aims to test an astronaut relaxation training protocol designed for use in spaceflight. These mind and body practices have previously demonstrated effectiveness in reducing both stress and sleep issues on Earth. (Image Courtesy F. Pagnini, Department of Psychology, Università Cattolica del Sacro Cuore)
Date Created:2025-07-16 Center:JSC

Girl Science about her Yoga class from NASA JSC - which had all its cuts restored by Congress. Because... just because okay!

>>16733314
no, "engineering/production/launch plan"
so not focused on SpaceX in general which the previous update was a bit, nor mars
but specifically on Starship itself

maybe he is seeing the general low morale people are having about the starship programme at this point and the mars talk didn't really have that much actual technical info about Starship

>>16733305
they should probably build a virtual experience anyway so potential colonists get a better idea of what they're getting into

>>16733200
This Elon "Mars in 2026" hot air fantasy will be the same talk as last time, but while this one is going on, costumed "Mars-o-nauts" will stroll thru the crowd, entertaining Starbase visitors with their comical antics.

>>16733325
>1965
>men are still wearing the same shirts and pants that they still wear today
>women are wearing crazy ass outfits

>>16732832
I refuse to believe it is that difficult. They did it in the 60s. Do you have any idea what has happened to manufacturing and control systems since then?

>>16733320
He obviously doesn't seriously plan to send humans to mars in any capacity. Let alone colonists.
In the early days of SpaceX there were excuses for hwy SpaceX could only do so much. It was very tight on cash with a small team who were serious underdogs in the launch industry.
Now SpaceX had practically unlimited capital and Mudk himself is mega rich, but he had not spent any effort on vital technologies for sending humans to Mars. Advanced nuclear reactors, life supports, GMO crops,.etc. all of these things are essential. Not just essential, but they would actually solve world hunger and world energy demand if he accomplished them. But he's not trying because he doesn't actuslly intend to send people to Mars. That much is clear.

>>16732991
KEK

>>16733063
The moon has has much carbon as Earth, and Earth has very little carbon which has all been conveniently sequestered by biological processes a billion years before we arrived

>>16733334
Apollo was using consumables for life support which is one reason it was on such a tight time budget.
Not really comparable to ISS which recycles all the heavy stuff.
Mars will need life support even more advanced than ISS because you can't afford to throw anything away since there won't be constant resupply like the ISS receives. Even fir a simple visit you need advanced life support. Any Mars misison will last multiple years rather than 2 weeks.

>>16733341
Mars has access at arms length to oxygen, through atmospheric processing, and water that a station orbiting in vacuum doesn't have. That's the bulk of a colony's consumables. That leaves food and manufactured items, which will be imported for decades. But a 100 ton cargo lander can bring in a lot of Hot Pockets.

>>16733192
kino...

>>16733341
Starship can allegedly lift upwards of a hundred tons. Not only are you immersed in resources for processing as >>16733344 says, but you can send something huge and industrial instead of some delicate aerospace thing. You can send two

>>16733200
He's doing ANOTHER presentation? Didn't he just say we were three weeks away from the next flight in the last presentation two months ago?

>>16733346
>can allegedly lift upwards of a hundred tons
Completely fabricated number btw.
Starship can't life 100T to an orbit at the karman line, let alone to Mars.

>>16733350
yes but then the launch got delayed due to a pad explosion

A look at the updates at the National Air and Space Museum:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ISiPeGRAs3o

>>16733341
you can recover infinite carbon, nitrogen and oxygen out of the martian atmosphere and sunlight, anon

>>16733039
looks like a man with a wig

>>16733359
At what cost?
About nitrogen we are talking about 3% in an atmosphere already less than 1% of the Earth.

>>16733365
>at what cost
air compressor, freeze out the carbon dioxide and recover it, compress the remaining gas which is 60% nitrogen and 40% argon and can be used for breathing gas without additional separation and only adding oxygen
building an air compressor that can go from martian atmospheric pressure to a handful of atmospheres isn't significantly more difficult than terrestrial industrial high pressure air compressors, which go from 16 psi to 2k PSI
a lot easier than shipping more in from Earth or attempting to make a perfectly lossless system lol

My advanced cope for the militarization of space is that in an all out war forces may seek to outflank each other bysending their assets further and further from Earth

>>16732950
>Russia is aggressive :(
That shouldn't be a problem. It wasn't a problem in the past when Russia was aggressive, and it wasn't a problem when America was agressive either

>>16733147
G60/Qianfan/Spacesail is reduced to looking for 10 satellites-3 tons batch launches outside of long marches

New CAS Space Vehicle Assembly & Payload integration Building in Jiuquan, will be used for both upcoming Kinetica-2 and for operational Kinetica-1

>>16733368
One of the few smart things SpaceX has done recently is bringing their own LOX plant online which gives them experience with atmospheric processing at industrial scale.

>>16733406
There is literally no comparison to what you would need to do on Mars. Making LOX in the oxygen rich Earth atmosphere is easy.

>>16733125
who are you quoting

>>16733410
Mars' atmosphere is also oxygen rich. It's about 70% oxygen by mass.

>>16733410
shut up doomer

>titan has an earth-like atmospheric pressure but it's at cryogenic temperatures
>mars is in the habitable zone but its atmosphere is long gone and all that remains is trace co2
I can't stop thinking about an alternate timeline where there's a world in our Solar System where humans could walk around in regular attire but would only require an oxygen mask. Imagine, just IMAGINE how much more kino spaceflight and sci-fi would be.

>>16733410
How do you think atmosphere fractionation works on Earth? Oh wait, you don't think anything, become you don't have a clue about the topic.

Sure, why not:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqAuPq3_XRs

Fuckkkk only this stupid AI can validate my autism

>>16733421
titan is radioactive, 1000x more than mars

>>16733368
it'll be a high vacuum pump to get anything coming in but it can be done. i hope someone is running a system like this for long term testing already.

>>16733425
and mars exposes a guy on the surface to about half what a guy gets on the moon. just for comparison

>>16733425
Simply generate your own personal magnetosphere.

>>16733422
based, you tell him
>>16733421
it's not trace atmosphere, it's at a significant fraction of 1 PSI
600 pascals or so, which is plenty
>>16733424
nobody cares about your schizophrenic self reinforcing AI delusions, anon, go away
>>16733426
>high vacuum pump
no, are you retarded? simple positive displacement pumps will work just fine, the high vacuum pumps don't even start working for another factor of 10 below Mars surface pressures

People talk about exploring Mars caves as a way to figure out its geology and stuff. How about we learn from the Ukraine war and fly a helicopter into a cave connected via fiber optic to a rover outside which allows it to manitan communication with Earth while inside the cave.

>>16733433
to deliver aid to hikers?

>>16733425
>Titan's dense atmosphere provides significant protection from radiation, potentially making the surface radiation levels lower than on Earth.

Please stop your sperg posting. We know you're doing it for attention, but as your Special Ed teacher tells you, you're getting the bad type of attention.

>>16733424
Be careful

>>16733424
>chatting with this fucking thing
It's a machine that's good at googling and agreeing with you, what the fuck are you doing

>>16733396
What’s the point? It’s not like there’s that much commercial rockets that can take 10 G60 sats anyway. They would be better off just waiting for the commercial companies to launch their F9 clones. Only 3-6 months left before we see an surge of launches

>>16733424
shouldn't you be using Grok 4 Heavy: MechaPornbotHitler edition anon

on Mars it'll be the only model available

>>16733443
>good at googling and agreeing with you
Took all of five minutes to figure this out. I like some music recommendations that I asked it for, but when I asked it for some documentaries on a subject it spit back a list of non-existent ones just to satisfy my request.

>using GPT in 2025
LOL

>>16733447
What do you use?

>>16733446
>>16733443
AI is so overhyped it's insane. I've never found an AI which is able to do something as simple as summarise a wikipedia article without fucking up and hallucinating details.

>>16733440
Maybe my psychological immune system is stronger than these normalfags but I don't understand how you can get to this point. As soon as it starts trying to talk to me like a person I immediately see it for the mask worn by several trillion dollar companies that it is and tune it out without even thinking about it. Like as far as I'm concerned it's no longer wielding language as the same tool I use, it's doing some other thing which I don't need to regard as anything other than a threat to me. My brain also does this for netanyahu

>>16733449
AI is good enough to fool midwits and it kicks in their inherent Dunning Kruger tendencies. Because they don't know what they don't know, they think the AI must know everything.

>>16733451
This is why I don't get the hype over the grok avatar shit from a week or so ago, do people really want to hear simulated auto-generated (and repetitive) """sexy talk""" from a LLM?
https://youtu.be/CKkd2CVL4IQ?t=26

>>16733453
The best way to convince anyone is to ask it questions about things they're an expert in. It once attempted to convince me the Martian atmosphere was 5x thicker than Earth's

>>16733456
The baffling thing is that women seem MORE susceptible to this. I didn't expect that. I don't understand anyone doing it but I definitely didn't expect that.
As the world advances, navigating it becomes an ever increasing set of IQ tests

>>16733235
Tell us you have no idea what the Artemis Accords are without telling us.

https://x.com/youwouldntpost/status/1948620239953891832
>went today and here’s how it actually looks

>>16733461
This box of limp bacon cost $12?
I'd pay $3.

>>16733461
That's fucking sad.

>>16733431
>another factor of 10 below Mars surface pressures
yep, you're absolutely right anon. had my units mixed up!

>>16733451
dont do gpt kids. just say no.

>>16733453
>>16733457
For me it was history. They hype these 'deep research' tools, and most history stuff is extremely poorly documented and fragmented, typically hideen in archived autistic blogs from 10 years ago. So I thought this would surely be a solid use-case for deep research AI.
Without deep research the AI just makes the wildest transparent bullshit up. With the deep research tool it sources it's bullshit. Once in a blue moon it souces from an actually interesting and useful place, and I find that it has completely misconstrued the information there.

>>16733461
lol wtf is elon doing

>>16733461
What's the purpose of selling this shit for such a ridiculously high price?

>>16733461
That looks fucking delicious ngl.
Ignore the haters Elon.

>>16733478
Aside from profit?

So where is Elon putting his Mars Base? 35 degrees North. Where the pure ice glaciers aren't.

>>16733448
grok

>>16733478
maybe not-poor people consider it a fun way to contribute to the cause. think of it as being a donation with tasty perks.

https://x.com/nasa360/status/1948408593142661341
https://www.nasa.gov/science-research/astrophysics/nasa-scientist-finds-predicted-companion-star-to-betelgeuse/

>>16733483
all thats left now is to find large deposits of important resources

>>16733461
>"An alligator wearing a space helmet? Now I've seen everything!"

>>16733487
to far away post stuff we can actually reach

>>16732822
maybe those faggots in mexigay should consider border control

>>16732822
imagine if mexico tried to advance spaceflight instead of hold it back

>>16733487
>Named “Siwarha” Arabic for “the bracelet of The Prophet's Bride”

>>16733483
arcada planitia

>>16733478
Genuinely not a high price there.

>>16733491
For a second I thought this was some kind of stew they were serving at the Tesla diner.

>>16733483
Are we sure the north isn't just a frozen ocean covered in dust?
Actually, are we completely sure a defrosted Mars wouldn't be an ocean world?? Like, positive beyond reasonable doubt?

>>16733473
Frightening implications. They could change history quite a bit.

>>16733505
It's even better when we make it autistic on purpose and then try to get it to fight against its own impulses

>>16733507
I will never forget you golden gate claude

>>16733516
this is equivalent to looking at Astras performance and then say that rockets can never work

>>16733520
I mean, this is normal behavior for double digit IQs. They still parrot about Teslas being a fake company, spacex being a fake company, starlink being fake and a monopoly. They just do not have a functioning mind and are instead on a loop

>>16733505
absolutely! its totally normal! i have them in there rn fr fr OG

fuck i hate these autobot robo answer fucking things. kids wont know how to use a search engine soon and they;'ll treat whatever these fucks say as gospel.

>>16733522
My schizo tinfoil theory has been that the total number of souls on Earth is significantly lower than the global population total, and that philosophical zombies are very real.

>>16733463
It's four strips so you indeed get to pay $3 (per strip of bacon).

>>16733543
I've downgraded my offer to $2 for the whole box, if Elon wants my pocket change he'll play ball and lower the price. If not I'll open a food truck in the parking lot and undercut his overpriced bacon.

>>16733543
space bacon is worth every damn penny

>>16733540
More so, humans have general/lazy heuristics thats not well made + no world consistent internal logic mechanism. The backend of most people's internal logic are contaminated by emotions, past experiences, habits, current sensations, etc. They are unable to validate their logic with reality fully due to these contaminants hijacking the logic

>>16733544
like hell you will. fuck you and your shitty earther bacon bullshit

Someone go to Tanegashima to catch Clear
https://x.com/clearusui/status/1948599798216757566

>>16733553
Clear deserves to be free

I just had some of the bacon and it was fucking sick.

>>16733571
it made you sick?

>near term EDL demonstration of a human class Mars lander

hmmmmmm I wonder who that can be

>>16733588
>I wonder who that can be
ULA

>>16733547

>due to these contaminants hijacking the logic

Maybe humans can be distilled. No idea if you would boil off the contaminants or the human but I think this is what the whole principle of alchemy describes ...

>>16733588
>I wonder who that can be
Rocketlab.

>>16733589
*error buzzer* wrong!

>>16733592
*error buzzer* still wrong!!

Man /sfg/ is really not sending their best huh, here's a hint, name starts with "S" ;)

>>16733598
Sierra Space? I thought they are still stuck on dreamchaser 15 years after the lost the COTS contract

>>16733598
stoke space

Sblue Origin

>>16733598
anon the South African National Space Agency aint doing shit on mars because it aint 50% black owned.

>>16733598
SLS

>>16733448
Opus

>>16733611
dont you have to PAY for that shit MY NIGGER?

>>16733611
Listen... Word... I cant pay for that.... Yeh... Yo, I'm just a broke bitch with a scratch to itch, hustlin' through the struggle, tryna flip a switch. Pocket's empty, dreams heavy, got no cash to pitch, livin' on the grind, dodgin' life's glitch. Ramen in the pantry, bills stackin' like a snitch, but I’m spittin’ fire, flow sharp like a witch. Keep it real, no flex, just tryna get rich, scrapin’ by with heart, that’s my only niche.

>>16733598
Scott manley?

>>16733602
>>16733604
>>16733609
>>16733610
>>16733615
all wrong, jesus fucking christ I give up

SPACE FORCE

USA

USA

USA

>>16733619
that sounds incorrect

>>16733551
>earther bacon bullshit
Where do you think the pigs lived?

>>16733625
An orbital centrifuge probably.

>>16733619
I don't think so

why did spaceforce make a painting of a random 1970s concept vehcile rather than the unlimited kino that is shuttle?

>metallic heat shield tiles for Starship
Is this for real? How is this not a signal of having given up reusability for good?
What would be the point of a metallic tile, it is thermally conductive instead of ablative. And it might weight quite a lot.

If these are upgraded X33 Inconel + insulation tiles, they were not rated for a full reentry. So what are they planning to do a massive deorbit burn to kill speed? That is even more fuel wasted.

>>16733637
which booster is this?

>>16733588
link link link

>>16733643
Trust the plan schizo. Starship is clearly going as planned. Don't as questions.

>>16733651
door stuck

i ate a pound o' poop today :)

>>16733643
they are actively cooled and being tested in a few locations
even if they weight more per tile if it means that the system is actually reusable then that would be worth it (instead of making some kind of ablative thick tiles on the hotspots that have to be changed between every flight)

they have also put a bunch of experimental tiles on for like 3 flights in a row, but never been able to actually test them yet

>>16733659
do you work for NASA?

>>16733661
kind of a weird question but no, not directly

>>1673366
TND

>>16733650
https://x.com/SpaceflightNow/status/1948760555289751770

>>16733588
That amount of money is a joke and means they are not serious, will be pocketed by some people.

>>16733500
Hydrocarbon Soup

>>16733681
is that the dark side of the sun? why dont we land on it?

>>16733444
Some retarded rule where calls for bids are cancelled when there are only one/two bids, so the previous one failed because only CALT and SAST could fulfill them, this one has lower payload requirement and doesn’t require the launcher to be already flight proven so third parties companies like Landspace, Space pioneer, Orienspace can bid

>>16733039
Muscle momy.

>>16733461
$12 fucking dollars lmao

>>16733651
Is that the Hindenburg from inside?

>>16733660
>they are actively cooled
So more weight wasted in pipes, pumps and coolant.

>>16733657

:3

>>16733713
elite dangerous's graphics really went to shit

>>16733716
Veo3

>>16733713
aieou

>>16733713
Aurora Borealis?!?

>>16733718
Thanks for the explanation, Ranjeet. We couldn't tell.

>>16733727
Is ranjeet the new nigger?

https://x.com/ulalaunch/status/1948850924706754566
>United Launch Alliance is preparing for a landmark launch. The certified Vulcan rocket will soon perform its first U.S. national security mission, an intricate marathon lasting over seven hours to deliver two satellites more than 22,000 miles (35,000 km) above Earth.

>>16733713
What movie is this from? That shit gosling remake of Apollo 11?

>>16733727
AI must be absolute magic to third worlders who genuinelly can't tell.

>>16733739
nigga its AI

The only hope for spaceflight is Neutron.

https://x.com/SpaceIntel101/status/1948850805328461928
>Orbital launch no. 155 of 2025
>Arianespace to launch 5 CNES satellites on its Vega C rocket to Sun-Synchronous Orbit from the Guiana space center. The 4 CNES CO3D Earth observation satellite will create 3D Digital Surface Models, while its Microcarb satellite, a collab with the UK Space Agency, will monitor the fluxes of carbon dioxide between the atmosphere, oceans, and vegetation.

>>16733745
you miss spelled new glenn

>>16733750
Maybe if they actually did something.

/sci/ is playing /d/ shortly >>16733738 for those inclined

>>16733750
All memes aside. Can't deny that New Glenn aestetic. It looks like the future.
Ssomething about Starship looks slapped together. It lacks the natural beauty which arises from engineering perfection.

LC-3 is set to be opened next month. All that's left is for stage 1 to be finished and static fires of both stages. Maybe launch in autumn?
>>16733758
NG is beautiful but there's something beast-like and raw about Starship that awakens my inner child.

>>16733760
>something beast-like and raw
unavoidable whenits the most powerful rocket every by far, but its terribly put together. clearly miles form perfection. InterplanetaryTransport System was theclosest we ever got to magnificent perfectly designed Starship.

>>16733767
>interplanetary transport system
>chemical

>>16733413
>I can't into greentexting
Go back to ledd!t, Ramesh, this site is clearly beyond your toddler intellect.

>>16733448
>>16733484
>>16733611
>Needing AI ever for anything
You H1Bs are intellectual cancer. AI is a glorified search engine and you idiots use it as an attempt to hide your 80IQs.

>>16733771
NTP is not that great in the era of low launch costs

>>16733771
Careful, the cult of Einstein swarms like hornets when you make fun of their scriptures.

>>16733782
>he didn't recognize the meme
found the actual redditor

>>16733791
you keep complaining about that but I've never seen it. you seem to be obsessed.

>>16733823
hes a Q(i) truther.

>>16733619
wrong

>>16733745
What if it gets caught in the lightning rods?

>>16733851
It would be extremely painful

>>16733854
It's a fairly big rocket

>>16733855
for you

>>16733858
such a goofy looking rocket. they should have made the third stage the same diameter as the second

>>16733636
The military hated the shuttle.

>>16733636
*shittle, and it's self-evident

>>16733860
They're working on it

I'm so fatigued by starlink launches that even these non starlink launches fail to activate any almonds.

>>16733858
Looks like some 1960s junk

>>16733871
Stop masturbating

BASED, LFGGG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7WhyT8qEKo
T-20:00

Eur*pe has lost the plot

>>16733890
Let's be real, Yurop has been fucked for over a century. Its not a surprise it was dominated by Washington and Moscow after WW2, Hitler or no Hitler.

>>16733891
trvth

>>16733893
martians live on 787s?

>>16733895
Essentially.

>>16733898
>Boeing has already beat Spacex to mars
Honestly I can believe it at this point

The line worries me

Good shit

https://x.com/Dillonshrop06/status/1948925797286166690
>Observers located in the yellow polygon depicted below will have a chance to see Ariane Space's Vega-C fourth stage venting propellant (LOx) in preparation for de-orbit burn. I expect this to occur around 0351 UTC +/- 3 minutes.
>How to view: Look towards the orange line (take into account that the closer you are to the edge of the polygon the closer to the horizon it will appear)
>A great tool to help you view this event in the Satellite Chasers app, available for IOS and Android. Navigate to the search bar and search either " CO3D & MicroCarb " or " 2025-156A " You can also use this link: https://satellitechasers.com/?norad=90053. You can then use the AR feature to point your phone in the direction of the satellite.

>>16733904
This political regime's selfishness and self-interest scheming knows no bounds! I really find it disgusting how...
please subscribe to SpaceNews to continue reading this article

>>16733903
that's what AVUM is for, to correct for under- or over-performance of the first three solid motors. Seems to be doing its job today.

>>16733907
I cant believe we are giving NASA boomer do-nothing gov't teet-sucker employees a golden parachute.

>>16733903
It's fine

>>16733920
I smell the hohol who made this image, he got dragged away by the TCC a couple hours ago.

Government issued wasian space gf when?

>>16733950
I offer the government my balls and it can lick them.

>>16733956
what a good book. except for the weird part where ol' Heinlein described a 12yos uhhh 'development'

>>16733957
I like the entire chapter where he does nothing but tell you how to organize a decentralized insurgent network insulated to protect the structure at the expense of any individual agent.

>>16733961
would that even work? it's been a while but I recall it was some sort of triangle stacking system, with groups of 3s who only communicate with other triplets in some certain way idk

>>16733756
obliterated by horse cock

Anyone got musk's old email? He had it once on an old site, I want to ask him something

>>16733980
bribe one of the x sycophants like whole mars $200 to DM him. that's how you ask him something.

>>16733964
The whole thing worked due to a combination of the oppressive government both not expecting much out of them or really caring. 100,000 people work for US intelligence and their job is specifically to stop what you describe (does not matter what country you're in).

>>16733771
thats the best for now yes

>>16733961
Heinlein had no experience with organising an insurgent network and his system was naive
Try not to confuse fiction with reality

>>16733461
https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1948907708847153581

in the bacon goes

>>16733461
>Musk is stuck in the past so badly he's trying to sell baacon to the epic meal time/reddit narwhal audience
Selling 4 pieces of bacon for $12 when the hyperinflation hasn't even hit yet is just insane

https://www.spacex.com/launches
New upcoming launches page. The split-flap number displays are a bit of an oddity considering how their actual designs are all about clean futurism and touch screens.

>>16734060
real? he could sell that to alot of people

>>16733823
Let me guess, you refer to yourself as "we"
>>16733824
Standard model hasn't done shit in 80 years. It's just hot recycled garbage and midwits like you pretending you know how AI works.

>>16734055
And you stop pretending to have read books you haven't.

>>16733821
Keep lolcowing for me--you're very good at it.

>>16732374
I used to dislike light pollution, but now I love it. We should have even more light pollution.

S38 cryo soon?

>>16733473
>the AI just makes the wildest transparent bullshit up.
It's genuinely hilarious to see it so blatantly and confidently bullshit things. It's like a mix of a conman and Koishi.

so is china's starlink kill or what? they ran out of launchers and thats it? its gg?

>>16734095
they aren't going to abandon something as important as this

>150+ THAADs and 80+ SM-3 missiles were fired during the 12 day iran-israel war
>that's 25% of all THAADs in existence, including those still on order for production
>the SM-3 missiles werent very effective and the military is now investigating the missile's performance
>it will take a minimum of 4 years to replace the THAADs
https://www.twz.com/land/150-thaad-ballistic-missile-interceptors-fired-by-u-s-during-irans-barrages-on-israel-report

maybe golden dome is the cure for missile defense's current woes?

Fuck you

Shit guys. I had some epic bacon last night and it made me dehydrated as fuck. I woke up feeling like a zombie and wolfed down a whole glass of water (I usually don't drink until after eating). Maybe the bacon isn't so epic after all.

Israeli-American theoretical physicist Avi Loeb published another paper claiming a mysterious intergalactic object could potentially be a 'hostile' alien spacecraft that's slated to attack our planet in November.
"The consequences, should the hypothesis turn out to be correct, could potentially be dire for humanity," the researchers wrote in the inflammatory paper
https://arxiv.org/abs/2507.12213

>>16734133
this shit was all over /pol/ yesterday. Of course they were eating it up. Normies are so deluded.

Bacon isn't good unless it's borderline burnt.

>>16734133
this guy is reaching michio kaku levels of attention whoring

>>16734138
most people i know eat practically raw bacon with fat like rubber. diabolical. it needs to be maroon colored with all the fat goneblack so you can flake it off and get at the meat.

>>16733931
Only 2 weeks until Kiev, my fellow zigger!

Space vacuum dehydrated bacon when?

What are your thoughts on the Earth-Moon Economic Zone (EMEZ)?

What tf is he smoking? Why would AI give a fuck about meatbrain tonnage? What about tonnage to Mars?

>>16734122
Anon, if they can't make enough missiles for a localised defence how do you think they'll have enough interceptors for a global defense where 95% of satellite interceptor will be above an useless location whenever there is a strike?

>>16734164
Sorry, but Elon has chosen to babysit third worlders until the sun goes nova.

>>16734164
Musk is too goddamn ideological, why would you limit yourself with human birth when you can just make chips or even at most lab-grow brain cells?

>>16734157
The moon is a tremendous win for us. It unlocks space industry. Mars is too far away to integrate with the Earth economy during it's development. The moon can actually be developed by Earth.

>>16734164
>AI will increase birthrates
how
>maximize the future light cone
typical elon gibberish
>neurotransmitter tonnage
??? how many tons of serotonin or dopamine? why?

>>16734164
>AI will increase birth rates in order to maximize the future light cone of neurotransmitter tonnage.
What did he mean by this? I guess we will have in vitro gigafactories soon.

>>16734174
musk will 3d print human bodies and equip them with grok neuralink addons to grant them sentience

>>16734176
i will equip your dad with my cock.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXNxnI0s_OY
this shit is kino

>>16734180
stop

>>16734182
no,it isnt

maximizing the future light cone of my cock will increase tonnage of cum in your dads ass.

>>16734188
yes it is

i just creampied grok.

>>16734055
>um ackchewally
Eat a rock, loser

>>16734196
proof?

People in a shed test firing a rocket
>www.youtube.com/live/_FE9-M2OyU4?si=cX0ZEpHTjmKhfEJ7

Starship is the first ever rocket design capable of making life multiplanetary!

Becoming multiplanetary would be the top 10 biggest events in the evolution of life

>>16734215
>capable
So far it's managed to lift 1 - one banana.

>>16734217
wtf

>>16734217
We dont need starahip anymore, we have grok

>>16734167
Absolutely grim

>>16734215
clown >>16733771

>>16734247
Yes chemical rockets go interstellar too

>>16734213
Fun fact, the guy who founded this company cut some woman's head off in his midget submarine and tried to dump the body

>>16734253
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kim_Wall
The story is so insane. He escaped prison

>The P120C builds upon the P80's design, utilizing a carbon fibre casing constructed via filament winding and fabric deposition techniques. It houses a 143.6 tonnes (317,000 lb) of HTPB 1912 propellant, a blend of 19% aluminium powder, 69% ammonium perchlorate with 12% of hydroxyl terminated polybutadiene binder. The motor's 25 centimetres (9.8 in) thick walls require a 3,500 kilometres (2,200 mi) of carbon fiber, wound over 33 days in a climate-controlled environment.
Explain why this material cannot be used to make a space elevator.

>>16734256
Because space elevators cannot be constructed regardless of the material desired

>>16734095
They are mostly dependent on the commercial launch sector since the CZ series cannot keep up. So all that they need to do is wait another 3-6 months and then their available launchers will see a massive surge. For whatever reason, all the chinese commercial rocket companies are all launching around the same time. It's insane, if their schedule holds up, we will see like 6 chinese F9 clones all have their maiden flights within like 3 months of each other before the end of the year. And the other 6 are gonna to have their maiden launch in the first half of 2026. And yeah, the chinese commercial launch surge has been promised before and keeps getting delayed and delayed since 2024, but it's actually happening this time. Static fire tests are being performed, the launch infrastructure is finally built and the factories are finally starting to churn out their first mass produced engines.

At first most of the individual companies will have very low launch rates, like 6 months to a year between launches, as they have their teething issues, sort out whatever major problems that rockets have and try to scale up production, as well as figure out how to land their rockets. But the advantage of having a dozen companies, is that even if they all launch at a rate of a single launch a year, the total aggregate sum of those dozen companies will still mean monthly launches for China and the G60/Guowang.

And then in 2-4 years once the leading companies have learned to land their rockets, scaled up their rocket production and learned to quickly scale up launches, you will start to see a massive oversupply. That's how China always does thing, they always struggle at new technology or making a new product, but once they figure it out, they tend to scale up insanely quickly.

>>16734256
>The motor's 25 centimetres (9.8 in) thick walls
I hate solids so much its unreal

>>16734264
When in reality, only two of them will survive. There will be a consolidation. I predict these companies will become engine and component suppliers not full-on LSPs. They actually have a pretty staggering inventory of things like rocket engines between these companies at this point.

>>16734217
You underestimate the power of the Planet of the Bananas.

>>16733782
You even fucked up the le >implication use of greentext, so I don't know who you think you're fooling.

>>16734256
space elevators are a bad idea even if we could build them

>>16734280
Why, just because a broken tether could fall and wrap around the Earth?

>>16734122
So much of preparing for fighting China in 2027. Nice for America's greatest ally to deplete their missile stockpile by chimping out right before a potential WW3 scenario. Funny how China just needs to arm Iran even more to basically make America run out of missiles trying to protect Israel before they even fight over Taiwan.
>>16734269
It depends on the launch demand. If the LM series cannot keep up and chinese launch demand continue to pile up, I can see 3-5 companies surviving long term. It all depends on what China wants to launch. I could see another 2-5 10k+ mega constellations ordered by the government. In addition to their 2 satellite internet megaconstellations, a 10k+ network of SAR and optical observation sats that allow for 24/7 coverage of every square meter of earth, their own orbital missile defense network, a 10k+ network of orbiting data centers and there's the wild card of space based solar power. Or how China's lunar plans will shape out and how the commerical companies will factor into them.

China does have the money and ambition for such mega-projects. Don't be surprised if China announces any of this projects once they have figured out reusable rockets. The data centers and the reconnaissance megaconstellation network are practically guaranteed. I won't be surprised if China is already mass producing them and just waiting for the launch market to catch up.

>>16734284
because Starship will be cheaper from a mass to orbit perspective

>>16734284
you would need to be able to bring tens to hundreds of millions of tons to orbit just to build a space elevator

I have not been involved in spaceflight since like March. Somebody give me a qrd on what has happened since

>>16734325
starship keeps exploding.
NASA is bleeding civil servants.

>>16734325
Space is over. Trump is gutting NASA budgets and Elon seems to think it's more important to deal with earth first.

>>16734164
AI doesn't even exist and won't exist any time soon. Qe will see a dot com style AI bubble collapse at some point. So called AI is useless for any serious tasks. Eventually real AI may be made, but likely many decades from now.

>>16734064
Yeah, have $3500?

>>16734331
As if gutting nasa is a bad thing. Retard.

>>16734337
/pol/ is impossible to browse nowadays because you have no idea if those images are bait or from a real flerf.

>>16734255
and HBO based a Danish miniseries on it ("The Investigation"). A real-life Bond villain

This is cool, but how many Ingenuity style helicopters could one Starship carry to Mars?

>>16734335
how retarded
unless you need it to operate without power because you live in Somalia or Los Angeles, just buy a fucking TV
if you really need static messages, hook it up to a computer
if you full screen Google docs you can edit whatever's on the screen from any device anywhere in the world (except China)
I hate it

It seems like Lockheed has been losing 1B, 2B, 1B, 1B, 1B, 1B since 2018 on a FFP on a 'highly classified aeronautical program' that is a magical gamechanger for the US and its allies. Hypersonic near-spaceplane?

>>16734147
Russia will win and will get far more than it was initially asking for at Istanbul 3 years ago because Kiev and NATO are run by intransigent nigger brains.
Kiev may be going out fighting, but it is indeed going out.

>>16734164
Musk has been making non sequiturs conflating a given social issue to some vaporware tech "solution" he's been shilling for over a decade and you're just noticing now?

>>16734339
>/pol/ is impossible to browse nowadays
It was inevitable when the 2016 election opened the floodgates to social media faggots, the pajeets and retarded boomers pouring in is just a mere formality.

>>16734325
If we're going to use pentaborane for the fuel we might as well go fro broke and use chlorine trifluoride as the oxidizer

>>16734339
At this point the only good option is to say "this is really stupid" and dismiss the whole thing. Any discussion that gives it any kind of serious credibility is a loss.

Didn't we find out after the outtage that /pol/ was 90% Mossad glowies these days anyway?

>>16734364
At least half of all site traffic is bots, all the increased traffic to all the altchans combined was less than half of the traffic here.

The U.S. DOGE Service is using a new artificial intelligence tool to slash federal regulations, with the goal of eliminating half of Washington’s regulatory mandates by the first anniversary of President Donald Trump’s inauguration, according to documents obtained by The Washington Post and four government officials familiar with the plans.
The tool, called the “DOGE AI Deregulation Decision Tool,” is supposed to analyze roughly 200,000 federal regulations to determine which can be eliminated because they are no longer required by law, according to a PowerPoint presentation obtained by The Post that is dated July 1 and outlines DOGE’s plans. Roughly 100,000 of those rules would be deemed worthy of trimming, the PowerPoint estimates — mostly through the automated tool with some staff feedback. The PowerPoint also suggests the AI tool will save the United States trillions of dollars by reducing compliance requirements, slashing the federal budget and unlocking unspecified “external investment.”
The tool has already been used to complete "decisions on 1,083 regulatory sections” at the Department of Housing and Urban Development in under two weeks, according to the PowerPoint, and to write “100% of deregulations” at the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB). Three HUD employees — as well as documents obtained by The Post — confirmed that an AI tool was recently used to review hundreds, if not more than 1,000, lines of regulations at that agency and suggest edits or deletions.
The tool was developed by engineers brought into government as part of Elon Musk’s DOGE project, according to two federal officials directly familiar with DOGE’s work, who, like others interviewed for this story, spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe internal deliberations they were not authorized to discuss publicly.

>>16734381
AI is cope for any complex work. I work in aerospace and got it to design a component. Holy shit it failed miserably. Like I fed it all the context it would need and it still couldn't design it properly.

is blue moon launching this year or not?

>>16734364
>/pol/ was 90% Mossad glowies these days anyway?
That's just because 4plebs uses the israel as a dummy for memeflags, and its a third party archive that isn't owned by hiro.

>>16734368
>At least half of all site traffic is bots
I'm not sure about that, /ghost/ was pretty fast and there were a lot of people that just waiting out without going to an altchan or posting as frequently on them. That being said I'm sure the site's post rate just has a double digit bot percentage now and Hiro/RapeApe just doesn't care about it.

>>16734384
I'm reminded of when some techfaggots were saying that human cognition was obsolete as new model was able so solve some physics GRE problems faster than some grad students, the unspoken caveat is that it had to be constantly babysat by team math PhDs in order to perform as well as it did.

>>16734385
Iirc it got bumped back H1 next year.

>>16734385
No lol

>>16734392
Makes me wonder whether 'experience' or 'tacit knowledge' can ever be distilled into prompts.

>>16734394
Probably. You can have a product that is greater than the sum of its parts, but it doesn't hurt to have very good "parts" who can seed it and add into the initial equation for a way better overall output

>>16734394
Maybe but I have some doubts, language is rather abstract. That being said I don't think AI is/will be useless, its just that its going to be relatively niche and its role will like be to augment human cognition rather than replacement when utilized properly. AlphaFold2 saved biochemists man decades of work, but its not exactly capable of putting them out of a job.

not looking good QI schizos

>>16734400
Mike will have a perfectly good explanation as to why nothing ever happens and why the next satellite has an improved design that will for sure work, next time

>>16734384
you're using it wrong.
It's incredible for shit like medical diagnosis.
A paper recently explained how AI alone has a higher rate of success diagnosis versus doctors OR doctors using AI.

>>16734400
have they tried turning it off and on again?