Thread 16740168

Let's see if the geniuses of /sci/ can solve this one.

>>16740168 (OP)
There is no solution.

Consider the grid as a 4x4 chess board. Every time you move, you switch colour. As there are 15 squares to step in, there are 15 movements, and therefore 15 colour switches. This is an odd number, so the square colour must be inverted. However the bottom right square is the same colour as the top left square, so there is a contradiction. Therefore, it is impossible.

>>16740168 (OP)
There is no solution.

Consider the grid as a 4x4 chess board. Every time you move, you switch colour. As there are 15 squares to step in, there are 15 movements, and therefore 15 colour switches. This is an odd number, so the square colour must be inverted. However the bottom right square is the same colour as the top left square, so there is a contradiction. Therefore, it is impossible.

>>16740168 (OP)
played by the rules

>>16740168 (OP)
The rules don't say you have to exit at the bottom after stoning all of the bugs. So I stomp them in whatever order and then stay in the last room forever.
Easy

>>16740184
Incorrect. There is a possible solution.

>>16740227
>>16740228
Fair enough, but let's assume you must exit out where the arrow is pointing.

>>16740168 (OP)
>goes down one
>goes up one (didn't step on bug)
>right, down, down, left, down, right, right, up, up, up, up, right, down, down, down, down, out

Rule 2 is poorly worded but I'm familiar with this problem and know the intended solution.

>>16740168 (OP)
This is just a Hamiltonian path. No? A modified DFS does the job. So assuming these are the rules:
0. you start at vertex 0 and end at vertex 15
1. you visit every vertex
2. you can visit vertices only once
Here are all the possible paths prefixed with their length. As you can see 15 vertices is the max and none include all 16.
https://pastebin.com/83tj6XvJ (I've labeled the vertices intuitively from 0 to 15)
Or there is the alternative
>but you didn't think outside the box
solution. In which case, OP is a homosexual.

>>16740280
You can't reenter the original box after stepping on the first bug, though.

>>16740736
Only for rooms with a bug in it, per rule 2

>>16740737
No, it says you can't reenter a room after stomping on a bug, but you stomped on a bug, then reentered the first room.

>>16740168 (OP)
The trick is to lull the bugs into a false sense of security by deliberately avoiding one or two.

>>16740235
>let's assume
Why? Because OP was stupid enough to add that condition to his retarded reddit HAHAGOTCHAIT'SUNPOSSIBLE!!1! problem?

>>16740235
>let's assume
Why? Because OP forgot to add that condition to his retarded reddit HAHAGOTCHAIT'SUNPOSSIBLE!!1! problem? His mistake.

>>16740746
>>16740747
It also doesn't say anything about moving diagonally, so you could easily exit through the arrow via numerous paths simply by moving diagonally at some point.

>>16740168 (OP)
That is the lame version. In the original you are harvesting organs and bones for billionaires in need of spare parts. In order to save money the donors only get paralyzed enough time to do the harvesting, so you don't want to enter a room with an already harvested donor before exiting the building.

GG EZ

>>16740797
Didn't know brother could walk through walls.

If both x and y are even, then it probably can't be done. In this case, x = y = 4.
If x = y = 2, then it can't be done.
If x = 2 and y = 3, or vice versa, then it can be done.
If x = y = 3, then it can be done.

you don't need to ever leave

>>16740168 (OP)
what do i win
>>16740184
but i did it

you can't tell me what to do

>>16740168 (OP)
I'm assuming they misworded the rules cause the person that drew it was a chink or something, because essentially the loophole to rule 2 is supposed to be that you can reenter the first room since that room didn't have a bug in it, otherwise, it would be impossible under this box arangement.

All the bugs would be attracted to my starting location because I'm very handsome. I would proceed to stop them all in the first room, then punch through the wall and leave without ever needing to walk around the building.

>>16740934
You should at least have sex with them first.

>>16740912
this is it. both rules followed. the exit is a red herring, no one said you had to leave lol

>>16740925
That looks extremely painful.

>>16740942
For you

>>16740739
no, he doesn't enter the first room twice. the first room is the starting room, thus he only enters that room once, on his way back

>>16740168 (OP)

because you never entered the initial room, you started there, you can go back to it once

>>16741010
Then how did he get there in the first place? Was he born there? Was he abused by his caretakers and never allowed to leave? If so, does he even have the mental capacities to successfully solve this puzzle?

>>16741040
How exactly can you start out in a room that you never entered? By being in a room, you are entered into the room, by definition.

>>16740834
Pest control engineers know all about accessing drop ceilings to hop over wall partitions since bugs often take up residence in those drop ceilings.

>>16741050
I don't know. Maybe the problem should've specified that?

>>16741270
What if they built the room around him? He never really entered it.

>>16741277
Then as soon as the room was erected he was entered into the interior, by being in an interior of a room, you have entered it, by definition.

>>16741274
Or maybe you just shouldn't try to reinvent the word entered in order to avoid admitting you can't solve the puzzle as it is stated.

>>16741280
I disagree. You are just bullshitting. Entering is the act of ingress, through a portal of some kind.

>>16741290
Nope entering is the act of going into something, by definition by being inside its interior means you have gone into it..

>>16741270
You were born there.
That means you never entered the room because you didn't exist before.

>>16741414
>That means you never entered the room because you didn't exist before.
No, it means your mom entered the room at some point and exited your mom and entered the room through the birth canal or the incision.

>>16741292
>mf has entered the Milky Way galaxy

>>16741424
>anon's mother is in the room
>her womb is in the room
>anon in the womb is somehow not in the room
>he needs to leave his mother's (in the room) womb (also in the room) to leave space in the room which is not in the room and enter the room

>>16741426
>has
No child, I was not born yesterday like you seem to have been, so that had happened a really long time ago.

>>16741427
Yes if you have a contagion in a secure jar in your room, you don't have to worry about being infected because the contagion is not with you in the room, it is contained in the jar, but if you let it out of the jar, then it will enter the room and you will have something to worry about.

>>16741430
>a contagion is studied in a laboratory
>-Where can I find it?
>- In the laboratory.
>- Where is it?
>- Not in the laboratory since it's contained in a receptacle (in the laboratory (that does not mean that it is in the laboratory)).

No, a better one:
>- Where are you from?
>- I'm from Texas.
>- Whare are you now?
>- At home.
>- So, you're currently in Texas.
>- No I am at home.

Easy. Pick up all the bugs in whatever order and then stomp them all in the last room.

>>16741449
The container is in the lab, the contagion is in the container.

Texas is not a closed room that can be entered because it isn't even real, its just a political designation with fuzzy borders that change with the tide.

>>16740168 (OP)
There's no bug in home room, so I can can step back in

>>16741493
It doesn't say you can go in a room that has no bug it says you can't step on a bug, then reenter a room which is exactly what you did, stepped on a bug, then reentered the original room.

>>16741489
>Texas isn't even real
>but a room is real

>>16741512
Yes a room has real physical borders instead of abstract political demarcations.

>>16741499
Ok, walk to the second last room without stepping on any bugs, then walk back and step on bugs

>>16741517
The bugs are just as big as the room, its not possible for that guy to walk in the room without stepping on them.

>>16741535
Ok, I am actually not the man, but the bug with a little hole in it, and the man is actually a bug to me, along with the other noon hole bugs

>>16741551
I am 3 dimensional and the walls are only high enough to contain the bugs

>>16741493
>>16741517
>>16741551
>>16741560
As a side note, welcome to the A.I. safety problem. OP keeps on having to come up with new constraints after I've already broken the rules (imagine me being A.I.)

>>16741515
The borders of a room are also arbitrary considering it's 99% empty space.

>>16740741
Re-entered room one after stepping on a bug.

>>16740168 (OP)
It's already been solved in this thread.
Rule 2 should read
>After stepping on a bug, you can't re-enter that room.
Since you havn't stepped on a bug in the starting room you can re-enter it after stepping on a bug in an adjacent room.

>>16740235
No, you fucking dumbass, it is impossible.

>>16741966
Prove it.

>>16741966
Do you believe that your being vulgar or swearing has anything to do with convincing us in this place? Do you think that's an argument you're making now? Heh.

>>16740912
>>16740925
This board still has autistic geniuses on it.

>>16741648
>Since you havn't stepped on a bug in the starting room
That isn't what the rule says at all, it doesn't say you can't enter a room with a squashed bug, it says you can't squash a bug, then re-enter a room you have already been in and you have already been in the fist room.

Fairly elementary if you ask me, I use the corner of C4 to build enough speed to travel to one of the Parallel Universes.

Fairly elementary if you ask me, I use the corner of C4 to build enough speed to travel to one of the Parallel Universes.

go diagonally

>>16743887
what am I looking at?

>>16743971
you stomp the bugs so i figured you leap over the boundary to stomp them, but they might be strong so they have aura.

You guys are fucking lame sometimes

>>16740941
>>16742696
>>16740912
>>16740227
now hold on if you don't have to leave than this guy was right to begin with, his line might have gone out of a wall but he did in fact obey the rules

>>16743117
>it says you can't squash a bug, then re-enter a room you have already been in
No, it says "After stepping on bug, no re-entering rooms", which is wrong from the original problem. The problem is impossible without being allowed to back into the starting room, because there's an even number of rooms on each side. So an Hamiltonian path that starts in opposite corners is impossible.

>>16740168 (OP)
I don't see a rule against moving the bugs, so:
>collect all the bugs (path irrelevant, reentering still allowed) and place them in the room with the exit
>stomp them all
>exit

>>16744425
>collecting bugs
gross

>>16744442
splattering them all over the floor is gross too so I don't think OP gives a shit

>>16744446
At least use gloves

>>16744053
>You guys are fucking lame sometimes[.]
The following post isn't lame.
>>16740906

>>16741283
this is called pilpul, you are just not good at it

>>16741283
Op never said the guy in the pic was us.

>No one bringing up that he said "rooms" plural.
Sad, really.

Walk on the walls and stomp down on each bug, jumping over doorways when needed until the exit room, then jump down on the last bug and leave.

>>16740227
Exactly. Nothing was said about the location of the exit being the green arrow

>>16740184
>tranime tranny is objectively wrong and retarded

EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

>>16740168 (OP)
Go on the diagonals and u win right?

fag misery itt

>>16745158
I saw that post too, it's really going around huh