Thread 16753267

What are some subjects to learn before you die?

>Euclid's Elements

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q29U3_2PIiM&list=PLrkQ3hzZrc4j9gT0z--_CiFzQLeVb32hQ

https://elements.ratherthanpaper.com/1.1

>Latin

https://archive.org/details/familia-romana

https://archive.org/details/familia-romana-and-colloquia-personarum-audio-files

>logic

forallx.openlogicproject.org

https://lms.yic.edu.et/library/index.php?p=fstream-pdf&fid=943&bid=1180

>>16753267 (OP)
How not to.

>>16753267 (OP)
philosophy of god
and epidemiology for health lol >>16753284
if you are retarded you need to learn

>>16753267 (OP)
12 Swords of Yang-style Taichi.

>>16753267 (OP)
Read the I Ching.

>>16753284
thanks for the goldmine

>>16753284
These are nice thank you. especially the logical falacies .

>>16753531
>>16753578
If you're interested in studying logic there are a ton of free materials online.

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/508076799
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/512205412/#512207103

The most important thing to study in your life is the trivium, ie grammar, logic and rhetoric. For grammar study Latin, for logic study not only informal fallacies but also formal logic. Rhetoric is the subject of the three I know the least about but from my understanding I can say a few things.

Grammar, logic and rhetoric used to be taught as interconnected subjects, as a unified system, which this book reflects, it says it's about logic but really parts one and two are what we would call grammar, part three is what we would call logic and part four is what we would call rhetoric.

https://archive.org/details/logicorrightuseo00watt

Grammar, logic and rhetoric are not separate, but a unified system, interconnected subjects, and are the tools of thought. You can think of it as short, intermediate and long modes of conveying meaning in a text or speech. Grammar deals with the meaning in a short collection of words, such as a part of a sentence. Logic deals with the meaning in a longer collection of words, such as a sentence, or a few sentences. Rhetoric deals with the meaning in an even longer collection of words, such as a paragraph, a verse, a chapter etc. Metaphor is one example of what rhetoric deals with. Another is the enthymeme. Introduction to logic by Irvin Copi has a good section about enthymemes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enthymeme

>>16753952
table of contents in picrel

Euclid's Elements is not like the math we are taught, which is a hollowed out version of math, this is the real thing, it gives you the actual foundation of math in deductive logic, working your way up from very basic concepts or observations, giving you a thorough comprehension of math, rather than rote memorization, and not just math but also logic, which is transferable to other areas of life, because it teaches you how to reason, how to think.

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https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/512229253/

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School does not exist for you to learn but the opposite. We have the Prussian education system, which is specifically designed to teach the top 0.5% of the population the Trivium, ie grammar, logic and rhetoric, ie the tools of thought, while suppressing it for the bottom 99.5% of the population.

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/512644823

Teach yourself the Trivium.

>>16753978

audio with scrolling text in the mp4 links here:

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/512644823/#512647675

>>16753267 (OP)
Metaethics.

>>16753952
>>16753284
imagine having to study logic its innate dumbass

once i experienced the wilson effect i had to converse with a high IQ Physicist for a few months then my reasoning was up to par with the rest of the 110+ FSIQ faggots lol

>>16755139
normally you woudlnt have to but to prevent edge cases of logical fallacies that would normally be self evident and normal to deflect go over your head and might stump you in debate i got through it most subject specific ability was innate for me and i could shit on anyone with my verbal reasoning

>>16755139
>>16755141
People who never studied any logic always say that. You're ignorant as well as brainwashed.

>>16753267 (OP)
the Ramayana

>>16755147
logic is innate and can be measured empirically dumbass

>>16753267 (OP)
>>16753301
What proteins cause age-related disease burden and how you can reduce them prophylactically.
>protip: study SASP in biology context.

>>16756275
You haven't studied one page of logic in your life.

>>16756340
red herring retarded mother fucker. respond to the underline premise next time. you got to interact with someone extremely intelligent and you blew it

>>16753267 (OP)
group theory

>>16753952
Why Latin for grammar rather than any other highly standardized language such as German or Arabic?

>arabic
>highly standardized

>>16758819
MSA is a very standardised language with one of the most framework-y system for words, 3 letter roots only go off a little bit when it comes to semivowels w and j but other than that it is very standardised, especially considering my other option was German.

>>16758819
>>16759014
I would also go about suggesting at least 3 languages for people to learn, a Verb initial, Verb medial and Verb final. MSA is a very nicely standardised Verb initial, German for a Verb medial and Classical Latin for a Verb final (predominantly, but that's the same for arabic with it's VSO) is good.

>>16755139
>>16756275
https://www.cs.virginia.edu/~robins/Turing_Paper_1936.pdf

EXPLAIN IT TO ME OR I'LL FUCKING KILL YOU! DON'T DUMB IT DOWN INTO SOME VAGUE SHIT! EXPLAIN IT TO ME RIGHT NOW OR I'LL LITERALLY FUCKING KILL YOu! WHAT THE FUCK IS DIAGONALIZATION ARGUMENT? WHAT THE FUCK IS CHURCH'S EFFECTIVE CALCULABILITY? DON'T DUMB IT DOWN OR I'LL FUCKING KILL YOU

>>16755139
btw this faggot just flexed being *IN PAR* with 110 IQ retards, literally 1 in 4 people IQ, he considers that an achievement, the state of /sci/

I struggle with logic and philosophy, it feels like it's too abstracted. I need practical examples.
I still don't get logical positivism at all

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>>16753267 (OP)
How to become immortal

>>16759014
>>16759036
cheers
t. languages autist

>>16759058
yolu are one dumb mother fucker anon nigger ass faggot poo 110 is rare af

>>16759036
>German
>Latin
waste of time desu
or rather there are better alternatives
if you are an English speaker you should try to learn languages that are further from yours, not closely related, if you really want to expand your brainpower

>>16759653
Interesting point, not to suggest something very stupid but how about Navajo, Mandarin, Arabic
Wildly different etymological systems in each as well as greatly varying grammar, while still getting 3 alphabet types, with tones too. I would only suggest replacing Mandarin in this mix as it's grammar is fairly straightforward and in reality quite similar to English, but I feel Navajo and Arabic alone could do you most of what you want if you already speak English, only reason I added Mandarin was for the useability as well as the writing system, where other languages sharing it usuall hold verb final grammar. Any variety of Chinese would work in theory here and I could even, considering the selection of Navajo go as far as to suggest learning vietnamese (adds implosives) but only in the chinese script, which it used to before around the 20th century, as the symbols mostly still held their purpose of represnting meaning over phonemes.

If you want to replace Arabic as well, I would choose a Celtic language, their grammars aren't very standardised but they have some nice phonemes and cool tricks here and there while sharing many grammatical features with Arabic such as the verb-initial sentences. I'm honestly very surprised they are indo-european, which they obviously are based on their noun cases and vocabulary, but their grammar is just unhinged for that family.

>>16759050
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawvere's_fixed-point_theorem

>>16760558
the celts are kinda weird, all those ancient connections to egypt and they somehow showed up in china preserved as mommeys.

interesting mythologies though

>>16762341
My fan mythology of them is that the pre indo-europeans that were actually there were just straight up afroasiatic, from around egypt.