Thread 16754046

One more week until sloplord gives a (technical) presentation about Staship - edition

previous >>16750214

Also Starship launch 10 on August 24th

https://www.spacex.com/launches/starship-flight-10

Seven days

Member when hope felt plentiful?

>>16754061
Pope low earth orbit (LEO)

Next weekend's Starship Flight 10 has been cancelled by the Mexican People.

"!No Vas!"

>>16754076
Sostén mi cerveza
>dos semanas

>>16754076
Chinks are 100% financing this type of shit

NASA contest picks 25 plush finalists for Artemis II zero-g indicator

On Artemis I it was a Snoopy doll, as a retro nod to the Apollo program. This time, Woke NASA has selected a diverse short list, including foreign nations like Peru with no relation to the US space program. Because NASA loves them some diversity. NASA will select the winner so you know how this is going to turn out.

Good luck Singapore!

http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-081525a-artemis-II-zero-gravity-indicator-moon-mascot-design-contest-finalists.html

>>16754076
So what if... someone in a cartel... actually enjoyed watching rocket launches. You would not see those faggots out there for long.

>>16754091
I like the rabbit with the constellation ears

>>16754004
Notice how "NASA's budget is being cut!" was goalposted into "NASA is going to cut programs if the budget is not passed by a certain date!".

>>16754121
and it won't be so they're the same statement.

>>16754124
You can stop pretending to be retarded anon.

2 more weeks or 2 more years bros

>>16754126
how much do you want to bet that the budget will be cut?

https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/1957242257683222773
>FTS (Flight Termination System) explosives are currently being installed on Booster 16 for upcoming Starship test flight 10 at T-minus 7 days and counting!

they are going to blow it up

>>16754117
>"Lepus the Moon Rabbit" by Xiaomei Xia of Oakville, Ontario, Canada

Found the Red Chinese agent of influence in /sfg/

>>16754094
gimme the moon moth

>>16754129
Anon I realize you are a third worlder but the FY26 budget going through congress is public information.

>>16754141
I have a PIV.

>>16754076
Either launch anyways, or organize a coast guard (navy? marine? space force??) excursion to go arrest and set an example

>>16754136
>"Mona the Moon Moth" by Rebekah Crowmer of Mooresville, Indiana

Too busy. The Three Pieces of Flair Rule applies in space exploration.

>>16754091
What is the 4ASS entry to the competition?

>>16754094
>No Astronaut Pepe entry

You had ONE job.

>>16754146
A 6-sided die, three faces are 1s and three other faces are 0s

>>16754145
Shit, she lives pretty close to me. I feel like I'm obligated to root for that moth now.

The TL-3 and ZQ-3 are going to try to land on their maiden flight. What are the odds that they can succeed on their first try? I'm going to say 1%.

>>16754217
0

>>16754217
50/50

Let's be very honest again, we don't have a commercially available heavy lift vehicle. Falcon 9 Heavy may someday come about. It's on the drawing board right now. SLS is real. You've seen it down at Michoud. We're building the core stage. We have all the engines done, ready to be put on the test stand at Stennis... I don't see any hardware for a Falcon 9 Heavy, except that he's going to take three Falcon 9s and put them together and that becomes the Heavy. It's not that easy in rocketry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUwRfbYbVSY
My yt just recommended this. What do I think?

>>16754145
it’s not even that busy

MEXICANS do not count as range violation
My buddy has a boat in Tamaulipas

>>16754245
Are they planning on actually launching liquid fueled cryogenic medium lift rockets from ships eventually? Or is it forever going to be small lift solids.

>>16754146
Yotsuba dressed as Artemis

suicide when?

>>16754225
>he's going to take three Falcon 9s and put them together and that becomes the Heavy. It's not that easy in rocketry
I do that all the time in ksp and it just werkz

Why does America have no issues working with the Russians, but even minor cooperation with China is 101% banned?

>>16754276
it would have “just werkz”ed in real life too if they had figured out that yellow pipes with arrows on them aren’t actually easy to build.

>>16754284
we need them for the ISS to keep working. After 2030 I doubt we'll do anything with them.

>>16754285
Just spin the tanks around. Boom, ullage solved via centrifugal force.

>>16754296
>centrifugal force
um doesn't exist sweetie

Elon sure earned every dime of that $100 billion bonus. Mars in 2026!

>>16754301
I can feel it in my plums when I jump up and down

>>16754284
Start by learning why China is not allowed access to American space tech.

>>16754303
>long lines

You gotta like how the article undercuts its own headline immediately.

>>16754303
Yeah the diner is kind of cringe but Jalopnik has been rabidly anti-Tesla/Musk for years. Originally part of Gawker iirc.

>>16754331
the article is about the high demand necessitating simplification of the menu anyways

>>16754176
Go fuck the moth

>>16754121
If the administration is canceling projects and directing the agency not to spend the money they have been allocated, then the budget doesn't really matter does it?

>>16754362
Duffy is following Trump's marching orders to use the OMB (run by a rabidly anti-NASA guy) budget request to formulate NASA's budget plans for the next fiscal year
If Congress doesn't pass a budget and just does a CR, NASA could continue on as normal, so Duffy is working on cutting NASA's budget BY HIMSELF with no legislative mandate

They still expect to land someone on the moon by the way, but the agency itself is being dismantled

>>16754371
>>16754362
https://eos.org/research-and-developments/nasa-planning-for-unauthorized-shutdown-of-carbon-monitoring-satellites

>>16754362
>>16754371
>>16754382
https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/07/trump-administration-moves-to-tighten-the-noose-around-nasa-science-missions/

>>16754382
>Democrats wrote an angry girl letter.

Oooo -- scary Bet that knocks Trumpy back a few steps.

>>16754383
Bayshed

>>16754338
>Elon can't manage the supply chain for a single burger stand in Hollywood

But he's gonna launch multiple Starships from multiple coasts every day.

>>16754323
Why, they saying that the diner is cutting things because it's badly managed, not because it's unpopular.

>>16754268
Is this the shizodrive satellite?

I had a lucid dream where a Superheavy landing was being shown on live TV but then it took off again for a few seconds after the landing and crashed down and started rolling while on fire and was killing and crushing people driving and running away on the highway and then I checked the NSF channel and they just had a like 2 minute video uploaded with a title like 'We're done covering starship. It's over." then I woke up.

>>16754414
Prophetic

>>16754143
This is a job for the space marines

>>16754046 (OP)
When will we find aliens?

>>16754414
>on the highway
Good luck finding one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZUQe38SJIs
its up

>>16754472
Is this the "heat types absorb water" narrative?

>>16754472
sfg bros.. we lost to his superior intellect.. again... we can't stop him...

>>16754472
Based Thunderf00t destroying the Musk anuslickers over and over

>>16754487
Don't worry bro.... I am waiting for youtube to show the transcript of his video so GPT5 can destroy him.... Everything will be alright bro.......

>axiom suit is done
like actually done and ready to go? or is this just phase 1 of 12?

>>16754472
buy an ad

>>16754472
Even the X-33 TPS was more advanced, but I wonder if the IP belongs to NASA or Lockheed Martin and whether they would share it with SpaceX.

>>16754046 (OP)
When you stare at the most obvious conclusion

>>16754268
trust the plan

>>16754472
anybody watched this? a transcript can't be fetched yet (maybe he blocked it or something)
don't really feel like listening to 20min of hyperloop whining

Here’s what NASA would like to see SpaceX accomplish with Starship this year: https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/01/heres-what-nasa-would-like-to-see-spacex-accomplish-with-starship-this-year/

>>16754523
if only they could manage the flow of fuel by now.

>>16754472
I thought NASA good? Considering Starship tiles are just shuttle tiles but better.

Raptor v4 will fix everything.

>>16754414
I wish I had frequent enough dreams to experience something like that

>>16754414
ok but how was this a lucid dream sounds like just a regular dream you remembered you didnt actually control or influence anything

>>16754540
the problem with dreams, even the lucid ones, is that our logical reasoning for the most parts ceases to exist so you can experience things that seem to make a lot of sense but are in fact nonsense

>>16754523
the good news is they have 4 months left and they’ll be launching once a week by december

'sover

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZUQe38SJIs&ab_channel=Thunderf00t

Saarshit jeets literally designed ceramic blocks that will explode the ship every time it re-enters due to a design flaw. Yes, they inlayed stainless steel sheets INSIDE THE BLOCKS so that they crack and break under the intense heat and pressure of re-entry. This is probably why saarshit keeps catching on fire and exploding every time they re-enter lmao

>>16754546
could you sugarcoat this for me?

>>16754549
There is no way to

>>16754549
it's so over. starship will keep exploding until they re-design the tiles

I think SpaceX is fine but that's just me

>>16754553
>dilatometer
hmm, ok

>>16754553
I’m not so optimistic these days

>>16754553
id be more convinced if he was a multidecade veteran of nasa but this just means he interned there and jumped ship...

>>16754549
Excellent idea
If Starship was sugarcoated the explosion would make caramel rain

>>16754546
They keep exploding in flight actually.
Anyway if those tiles will be proven to be wrong they are going to change them.
That's how iterative design works.

>>16754562
So... I guess we're not going to Mars this year or next year then.... bros..... it's over. Elon lied to us again....

>https://x.com/ckuehmann
>VP Materials Engineering @SpaceX
and @Tesla
VP of materials works for two companies. Concerning.

>>16754414
I had something similar, but it involved a shootout between protestors and the national guard over SpaceX landing the booster in the middle of a residential neighborhood lol

I wonder if China is going for tiles with the LM-9, or are they going to try and use some kind of active cooling system. Because it really looks like the tiles are the main limiting factor for 2 stage reuse and China has the benefit of watching SpaceX struggle with this issues while they're still in the early design phase for the CZ-9.

>>16754563
No one even among musk fans believes his datelines.

>>16754564
Wow

>>16754573
Brother I can tell you right now that China isn’t doing anything more advanced or more ambitious than what America / SpaceX are doing. China’s game plan is “let others innovate, then do it worse”

>>16754573
Replaceable ablative plates because it’s the easiest

>>16754063
>My sides in LEO

>>16754564
The head of NASA is also working two jobs. Apparently doing multiple jobs, and none of them well, is some Limo Life status symbol.

>>16754588
The serb blackrock mercenary army, they probably fucked up and to cover up emp the whole country

Or, they were found something and were about to make it public

Blackouts the new martial law for prostitution rings

>Elon can't make a heat shield tile
>Elon can't even make a grilled cheese sammich.

It's over.

>>16754598
Unforgivable

>>16754563
it was NEVER real, why is this still a discussion at this point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9se5Dp8Xr8Y

How are we going to cope if it explodes once again?

>>16754598
I cook better than this, and would single handedly improve that lame attempt at a diner.

>>16754618
I’m going to go all in on shilling New Glenn and Neutron

>>16754618
just like we do every night Pinky, by chalking it up to the iterative design and testing methodology.

after looking at the mars communication orbiter proposals its clear that
lockheed > blue origin > rocketlab

blue origin should probably get the contract so we have redundancy, but lockheed is definitely the safe pick

>>16754628
I'm pretty sure Lockheed's AEHF can be reconfigured for MTO it just costs a lot (about $800m) compared to what BO is proposing, a modular Blue Ring.

>>16754628
Lockheed is oldspace who can get the job done, with the expectation you’ll be paying a little bit more to stuff some pockets.
Blue Origin has basically the same set of resources as LockMart and can undercut and get you a hella low price—at the cost of huge uncertainty.
I agree, I’d go with Lockheed. And if you want redundancy maybe make up a new contract basically tailored to be given to SpaceX for the same thing.
Rocketlab will never be a serious contender

>>16754628
why isnt the world leader in orbital communication systems working on it?

>>16754631
why doesn’t apple design my one off specialty phone? after all they make by far the most phones.

>>16754303
>the initial advertising for "all day breakfast" has also gone away, so breakfast is only available in the morning now
kek

>>16754638
whats the system in question designed to do? just one satellite?

>>16754638
why doesn't apple do that though? serious questiuoin

>>16754631
The requirements were set by Ted Cruz and basically exclude SpaceX

>>16754631
they are though? elon posted the marslink cgi video during his mars update presentation.

>>16754631
I don't think there's much money for spacex in those contracts.

>>16754649
because, much like spacex it’s not what they’re set up to do. Their supply chain, factories, and design departments are set up to design and manufacture a lot of one product very efficiently. they aren’t in the business of making specialty things for individual customers.

>>16754659
its worth $700 million

>>16754640
"I'd like the All Day Breakfast, please."

>>16754656
i see

>>16754658
didnt se it

>>16754661
seems not, since HLS may never be seen

>>16754383
>>16754382
>>16754371
It's sad that they have all this power and are willing to bend the rules, but just don't have the balls to go after the real waste, SLS. Pathetic really. They don't give a shit about waste or pork.

>>16754673
Congress controls the purse strings and there is a reason SLS is called the Senate Launch System.

As bad as it is it's preferable to Congress not wanting to fund space.

>>16754687
If you read the linked post you would be aware they are using the OMB to cancel missions without congressional approval. Willing to use it to cancel science missions, but not go after real waste.

New launch pads under construction on Lianli island off the coast of Haiyang, Shandong

>>16754695
>they are using the OMB to cancel missions without congressional approval

That hasn't actually happened btw.

>>16754696
right across the bay from korea...so only for polar launches?

>>16754698
Probably

>>16754598
how is this fucking bitch gonna get a million people to mars if he can't even make an edible grilled cheese at his shitty diner

>>16754735
Everyone pees in their pants sometimes, that doesn't mean nobody can do great things.

>>16754735
I don’t think elon was actually the one making that grilled cheese sandwich.

>>16754701
>>16754698
If it’s reusable rockets, which will be most of Chinese launches within 3-5 years, you don’t have to worry about them falling into another countries waters and causing an incident. I highly doubt that China would build a a brand new launchpad and only limit themselves to polar orbits. They have lots of coastline to choose from

>>16754747
Actually he's been sleeping in the kitchen and someone stole his breakfast.

>>16754551
In every controlled reentry starship has survived

https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/08/after-recent-tests-china-appears-likely-to-beat-the-united-states-back-to-the-moon/

Yet another fearmongering article from Eric Berger. Real bad red scare vibes going on. China doesn't have a single working system right now. The LM-10 is only going to make her maiden flight in 2027 and there's no real way to test their Lanyue or Mengzhou on their intended lunar orbits without it. Hell, the LM-10 will be their very first super heavy lift rocket, which will of course lead to teething issues and delays. They don't even have reusable rockets or anything like Starship.

Meanwhile, the SLS and Orion is flight tested and has already made lunar orbit. They're flying crew to a lunar transfer orbit in 8 months. SpaceX is still the GOAT and moving faster than anyone else by an order of magnitude. The entire system for Artmeis III is already more or less complete, while the chinese are still doing static fires. I just don't see any scenario where China can beat America to the Moon. Worse case scenario, Artemis III take places in 2028, which is already a year ahead of China's most optimistic timeline. Why does Eric Berger think that China has any chance at all?

>>16754763
That time of the month again?

>>16754763
is the sun screwing around again or is it someone practicing sabotage?

SpaceX launches another batch of blinky starlinks to orbit this morning, but all you want to talk about is Elon's diner food
>>16754598
>elon has a melty
>elon's sandwich isn't melty enough
make up your mind!

>>16754773
timed pretty well with the zensky meeting

>>16754696
Looks super small. If they're planning on launching anything larger than a small lift lift rockets or plan on more than a single launchpad, they will need some extensive land reclamation works. Also that bridge is tiny. And why an small island barely a kilometer away from the mainland? And it being near a populated city too...

Is there really nowhere better to build a new coastal launchsite? Maybe a little nearer the equator too?

>>16754773
russia would gain from it obviously but i cant imagine its them. there's also nothing about space weather afaik. it might just be some misconfiguration.

>>16754750
>which will be most of Chinese launches within 3-5 years

Oh no he fell for it.

>>16754765
Cope. Artemis is a clusterfuck that will get cancelled and SLS will fly once or twice more before being scrapped.

>>16754765
The fact that his 'expert' being interviewed is overtly Chinese was hilarious.

>>16754777
>>16754784
i just remember this happened last month too

I am working on a project where I feed every /sfg/ post into my custom gpt. It will have the most up-to-date encyclopedic knowledge of current space happenings.

>>16754790
There's tons of self hating American changs. But the fact that he's from the Heritage foundation was hilarious. Like really? Do you really need a guy from a think tank to elaborate on why China scoring a major PR win would be bad for America? The average joe can easily give you the reasons. Hell Eric Berger is a smart guy, he can probably come up with a dozen reasons himself.

Seriously, I can't believe that Eric Berger got a guy from the Heritage foundation, which is such a toxic topic currently, to comment on the brain dead obvious reason of why letting your enemies win is a bad thing.

>>16754303
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc-OAsQ47GI

>>16754546
>>16754549
Starship has actually never blown up due to faulty tiles
the two times (flight 3 and flight 9) it has burned up during re-entry were when it had already lost attitude control prior to re-entering, so not a tile problem at all

Someone sugarcoat this for me

>>16754799
The article isn't for us
Sometimes reporters get the grand idea they are writing specifically to influence policymakers
Berger needs to refocus his reporting before he loses the plot

>>16754844
There can be no sugarcoating. This is blatantly off-topic.

>>16754845
yeah that was my read of it too. it felt like it was aimed at policymakers. nobody here felt like the chinese lunar lander test was significant.

>>16754850
Pathetic that the only thing that motivates America is the threat of another nation, rather than for the love of the game

>>16754844
its a good thing

>>16754844
oh no thunderfoot bros, whats happening

>>16754844
Grifting economy is slowing down? Who's watching and paying for the ads/subscribing to grifters?

>>16754870
SpaceX has done this to him on purpose. they knew that thunder relied on their failures (and their successes, so called) for revenue and slowed down the program as a way to attack him PERSONALLY. Just shows you how evil SpaceX is, and Felon Crusk specifically.

>>16754539
kek

>>16754546
buy an ad

>>16754735
https://thehardtimes.net/culture/six-injured-at-tesla-diner-after-tuna-melt-sandwich-explodes/
This is why we test.

>>16754844
It's hard to grift when there are no failed launches to grift about. Pay no attention to the F9 launches behind the curtain. Follow the plan, two weeks.

>>16754885
That's a joke story. This isn't. And yes, they have their lawyer already.

>>16754890
>That's a joke story.
Anyone who needs that explained for them should kys themselves. And anyone who thinks "sandwich explodes" needs to be explained as a joke story, well...

>>16754890
I can’t believe elon musk deliberately installed a shoddy roof

>>16754889
could also be that he has got more competition in the elon-hate commentary sphere with Musks political shenanigans

>>16754893
he can't keep getting away with it

>>16754414
I attended Flights 5 and 6 in person. Prior to Flight 7, I had a vivid dream of standing on the beach and watching the rocket explode shortly after takeoff by flying into a mountain. I acknowledge that the Starship program setbacks may be at least partly the result of my psychic energies, and will do everything in my power to be present in South Padre for Flight 10. I'm not too experienced in these things, so are there any particular techniques I should be practicing to manifest success?

>>16754698
They launch to mid-inclination LEO from Haiyang so probably not only polar

>>16754890
Door stuck, patio coverings falling from the sky, infrastructure will collapse for Elon!

nsf
>dont expect an orbital attempt until block 3 late spring at the earliest

>>16755009
That’s way too optimistic

>>16755009
>>16755014

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1957601515784524237
Yeah

utterly demoralized

our thoughts?
https://hokkaidospaceport.com/

>>16755080
Does grok and x money make way more than starlink? If there’s a business reason for his cringe antics recently then at least there’s money involved. But if starlink is his money printer then he needs to fuck off. Look at all the comments. Normies actually think Super Heavy tower catching is cool. And even “space is fake and gay” groypers have taken a “this is the white man’s achievement” fascination with Starship reusability. Boomers think it’s cool and even never-eloners call for SX to be “nationalized” to remove musk, because they think the product is cool.
Starship and SX are naturally inspiring to all and people are even giving it the “separate art from artist” benefit of the doubt yet all elon does is tarnish his name and chimp out and peddle lowest-common-denominator AI garbage tweets all day now.

>>16755102
Yeah

>>16755084
that crowd is gonna get obliterated

>>16755084
I'm still hoping for MAMA

>>16755111
speaking of, how close can you be to a SS launch before it becomes lethal? I assume the shockwave will kill you maybe anywhere within 1km of it

>>16755142
that sounds like bull. after all they stick people directly on top of rockets and they only occasionally die from it.

>>16755102
something something 5D chess

>>16754793
What am I looking at here

>>16755167
All this plane does is aura farm. Maybe try flying instead of still photography?

>>16755167
>>16755168
The whore of NASA image archive (it MUST be featured every week)

>>16755168
it's not that easy in plane-ry

>>16755172
>no gauges or indicators or dials, just unlimited garmin-slop
sovlless

>>16755194
grim

How did Boom build a supersonic plane faster than NASA?

Bion M assembled. This is a living relic from the early space age. While modernized (I believe its lineage goes through Zond) its still essentially the same ship from the vostok/voskhod era
https://x.com/katlinegrey/status/1957437220429648202

>>16755230
if it aint broke dont fix it

>>16755102
Concerning

>>16755084
Just let us get as close as we want fuck liberal range violation rules

new lowne about ksa just dropped

https://youtu.be/U2IGlOBWQm8

>>16755250
That kind of mentality is why the whole Russian space program is still stuck in the 70s.

>>16755276
ironically, they had better rockets and rocket engines than the US is the 70s

Bring me back to Flight Test 5.

>>16754440
Never.

spehs?

>>16755409
no, no spehs...

>>16755413
sspeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehs

So Congress is going to spend another $30 Billion or whatever, and another decade to come in Second.

Good job Old Space.

>>16755420
Will these niggers stop talking and just go already. Some please DO SOMETHING

>>16755262
>>16755409
SRBs are kino

>>16755420
BTW the Ars comments are the usual madhouse. Commentors are screaming because the interviewee used to work for Heritage. Project 2025 hysteria dontchaknow. The Ars administration admins and Eric are belly crawling apologizing for speaking to a non Leftist but they had no choice. It's ironically like one of those public struggle sessions during the Chinese Cultural Revolution.

>>16755438
Why did they even need that guy from the heritage Foundation? Anyone with a IQ higher than 80 could have told you what the guy did. Yeah, no shit, China scoring a massive PR victory is gonna to be bad for America. It's like asking someone from the west baptist church to explain why murder is bad. Everything that the guy said, I would have likely say the same thing, and I didn't need to be a paid expert.


I find it funny how Eric had to specify that his "expert" didn't work on project 2025. Probably drew even more attention to it.

>>16755167
>>16755172
Isn't that plane kind of pointless? The whole premise is about eliminating the sonic boom, but that's just a legal problem. If you change those laws then the need for that plane disappears.

>>16755467
Supersonic flight is restricted from civilians period. If they relax that law it's unlikely they will say anything goes there would still be need for noise mitigation.

Kinetica-1 Y10 launching with the Kinetica- 2 pathfinder in the foreground.
It launched 7 satellites, with main one being the Haishao 2 SAR observation sat.

https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/1957671439500509639
>A Version 1 Raptor engine (Raptor 59 from BN3) and a Version 2 Raptor engine (Raptor 352 flown on Booster 12) are on display in the SpaceX HQ windows tonight possibly related to Elon's upcoming technical Starship update.

https://x.com/Space_Time3/status/1957742824784642275
>The Starship Flight 10 navigational warning has been posted for the Gulf.

https://x.com/dpoddolphinpro/status/1957504256442794151
>2 months ago today, Starship Flight 10's ship blew up. Its replacement is scheduled to launch this week.
>The turnaround time between Flights 9 & 10 could be just 7 days longer than between Flights 8 & 9, while replacing an entire Ship in the process.
>Flight 8 9: 82 days.
>Flight 9 10 NET: 89 days.

>>16754046 (OP)
It is over....

>>16755420
>expert
Journalists should be banned from using this word.

>>16755511
>Journalists should be banned
ftfy

>>16754046 (OP)
It is over over....

https://x.com/Space_Time3/status/1957751258871128272
>First NOTAM for Starship Flight 10 - for the Indian Ocean.

>>16755500
>>16755521

>>16755521
>>16755522
Why are they so different?

>>16755524
Jurisdiction, I think.

Hey E here. Remember how I said I was going to do a technical update of Starship before the launch?
Basically I’m just not gonna do it. I know. Ugh I know! It’s just that I’m not going to do it is all

>>16755533
Literally a succubus who drains starlink (i.e. mars colony) profit because she’s a whore who demands guaranteed money—and she STILL wants to complain. Will Elon ever learn his lesson about the jewish question and the 19th amendment, or is he doomed to keep repeating his folly of inseminating these parasites

>>16755533
Literally who?

>>16755540
a semen demon

>>16755418
wtf real pic or a render?

Happening right now in our skies: Titan is casting a shadow directly onto Saturn, creating an eclipse in the cloud tops of the gas giant. Saturn's tilt relative to the sun means it only happens when the rings are seen edge-on like this... I've never seen it before!

>>16755486
>No raptor 3

>>16755654
mein fuhrer... raptor 3 has been delayed due to turbopump leakage...

gey

>>16755580
Render of what starship's exhaust was imagined to look like before the first launch. Pretty accurate color, the bulb bulge isn't correct.

>>16755485
Most interesting was that it launched a Mexican payload. A first for China.

>>16755420
We're defunding nasa science to beat China, chill

>>16755708
You joke, but that's their actual logic. They're funneling money cut from the actual science programs into human spaceflight. Because they think that pouring another few billion into SLS will yield results and they don't believe in things like earth science or the sometimes weird and quirky projects that can yield serious breakthroughs.

>>16755720
NASA has achieved 0 breakthroughs in 50 years. Earth science is not spaceflight.

>>16754046 (OP)
/sfg/ bros....

>>16754750
Polar orbits are a huge market so it's not like high inclination focused launch pads would be a waste of money

>>16755733
>Polar orbits are a huge market
For who?

>>16755736
For the Poles.

>>16755668
He will be incandescing with rage, and utter a spontaneous but well delivered (and deserved) ass reaming for those who are responsible, as well as a thorough criticism of the framework the Jews put in place making the whole thing that much more difficult. Hitler gives the best pep talks to his loyal teams, I can see why Elon admires him so much, because he cant stand to be ranked second place. Motivational speeches to your organizational structure heads is clearly the tactic that gets the best results. They have a lot in common really.

>>16755736
Poland

>>16755420
>literal chang from a think tank that takes Chinese money

Why haven't we caught a rocket stage with a helicopter yet?

>>16755420
>Arse Technica

>>16755758
It's not so easy in helicoptery.

>>16755758
rocketlab did it once but then the helicopter pilot immediately remembered that catching dynamic loads in his already-a-deathtrap flying machine was a horrible idea and dropped it.

Grok surpassed 6 million internet points, completely assblasting the competition

>>16755771
Musk should do that long-promised fight with Zuck and get his shit rocked; a CTE might offer a factory reset for his brain and make him lose interest in this fruitless endeavor so he can focus on Spaceflight again

>SpinLaunch announced $30 million in new funding for the company to support its development of a broadband constellation.
Spinlaunch chads, we are back!

>>16755794
so who is going to launch it?

>>16755271
cool i guess but i'm never going to take him seriously as a game reviewer after he did nothing but make excuses for ksp2 until it was dead

>>16755438
berger's a victim of circumstance to some degree which is why he still has my sympathy even when he's saying something stupid. the guy just wants to be a space journalist deep down but you can't do that in this day and age without genuflecting and contorting yourself to appease a bunch of purity trolls and bullies. and berger can't tell them to fuck off, not if he wants to keep his job.

>>16755794
What about Arca's teakettle rocket, are they still in the game too or nah?

>>16755516
Block 3 will fix this.

>>16755809
Is it correct to say that mars is one big rock floating in space, or is it more accurate to describe it as a sort of amalgam of lots and lots and lots of smaller rocks that make up a whole planet.
What even is a rock?

>>16755812
>What even is a rock?
A miserable little pile of sand, but enough talk.

>>16755809
Reddit photo

>>16755814
Reddit planet

>>16755815
Red planet

>>16755815
trvth nvke, Venus chads rise up. The evenstar shines brightest

>>16755812
cratons are rocks on geologically active planets. for a scene as dead as mars who gives a shit.

>>16755809
needs a good hosedown

>>16755794
They need to open an Etsy storefront and start selling logowear. That shirt is hip.

>NASA's Psyche spacecraft recently looked back toward home and captured images of Earth and our moon from about 180 million miles (290 million kilometers) away. The images were obtained during one of the mission team's periodic checkouts of the spacecraft's science instruments.

>On July 20 and July 23, the spacecraft's twin cameras captured multiple long-exposure (up to 10-second) pictures of the two bodies, which appear as dots sparkling with reflected sunlight amid a starfield in the constellation Aries.

>>16755829
I did not consent to getting my photo taken, plz delete or I will take legal action.

>>16755832
Check your EULA, anon
yes you did

/sfg/= Space is Fake and Gay

>>16755467
>pointless
looks extremely pointy to me!

>>16754673
>Human spaceflight is being prioritized over earthbased science in the space agencies' budget
>This is bad, actually

>>16755467
>Anon thinks the sonic boom law can just be deleted and was erected for no reason.
Airports are built really close to population centers.

>>16755884
>erected for no reason
we know exactly why they restricted supersonic travel

>>16755887
>The Jews banned muh supersonic flight
Bet they also banned the leaded gas in your car because it was better.

>>16755880
>Useless nepo programs with the sole purpose of stealing tax payer money are being prioritized over science and exploration in the space agencies' budget
>This is bad, actually
ftfy

>>16754765
US is not serious. There are so many regulatory delays hindering the program. Starship in Starbase was delayed by 2 years for environmental assessment bullshit. Starship in Florida is also facing regulatory delays with environmental assessments. Same with Falcon 9 in California.

>>16755420
The US is really good at getting off it's ass once we really feel like we're behind. We're terrible at progressing without a rival

>>16755897
Exactly

>>16755438
It's amazing that they allow that shit even after announcing their new moderation rules
Further reinforcing that this is the kind of commentariat they deserve

>>16755420
Its never about the money, its always about politics. Political corruption of the land is the #1 cause of human suffering today.

>>16755897
ok but we're behind and we aren't getting off our asses. the best man to get nasa off its ass had his nomination withdrawn because the white house personnel office wanted to own elon. if we were going to be getting serious in 3 years then we would be getting serious now.

>>16755889
>muh jews
If Jews are lazy incompetent FAA admins who'd rather ban all supersonic travel than admit he failed at supporting a domestic alternative sure

>sfg dying at this time of the day
grim

Mike Griffin, former head of NASA, talking about returning Americans to the Moon. He doesn't want to live in a world where the Chinese can go to the Moon. The geopolitical implications are 'profound', he says. To that end, he suggests making a simple lander and launching TWO SLSes to get the job done
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4L8MY056Vz8&t

>>16755902
>if boing can't have a supersonic plane, then nobody can!

>>16755893
>Exploration with screens and telescopes
Yeah, totally.

>>16755935
>New technology
The rocket? The eletric car? The eletric payment processor? The internet providing sattelite?
I don't think any of those are new.

>>16755936
>launching TWO SLSes
if your retardation gamble doesn't work, just double up on your stupid!

>>16755948
To be clear, the gamble was hiring Elon to make the lander, right? Since that's the ship that hasn't left Earth?

>>16755951
absolutely. i don't see any hardware for a falcon 9 heavy.

>>16755951
It was a gamble, but also an only viable choice back then.

>>16755952
Let's get Orion bring back some humans back safely first. It can't be any harder than Starliner.

>>16755955
>This is what Elonfags use to fear monger
It's in one peice isn't it?

>>16755901
the public needs to perceive it though. Right now nobody really gives a shit about what rockets China is launching. Autists in this thread and the space community get it for the most part but there's still a lot of people arguing and coping. When China actually has people in the rocket to the moon then the wheels will start turning.

Starship can't land on the Moon unless they find a perfectly flat location

>>16755901
Why was Jared automatically good at getting NASA of its ass?

>>16755736
Earth observation
Sun synchronous orbit is nearly polar

>>16755962
Your reaction would be very different had that been a SpaceX capsule.

>>16754765
Starship HLS requires massive in-orbit cryogenic refueling and rapid turnaround to work

>>16755974
Think doors that open are also involved. Starship can't get together either.

>>16755965
the only reason we fell behind the ussr in the first place was because soviet developed the r7 in secret. we never suspected they were building something that ambitious, and it wasn't really until the luna missions in 1959 that it became clear just how far ahead they were. if the soviets had been as open about what they were doing as china is today, we would have never fallen behind in the first place. meanwhile we ALREADY know what china is planning and we know that their moonboots moment is coming. we just don't give a shit, and that suggests there's a good chance we won't give a shit when it actually happens either.
>>16755968
because he was going to be the first ever administrator to come out of newspace and he had detailed plans on the future of artemis and dragon and a whole bunch of other shit like NEP. do you have someone in mind who's a better choice, anon?

https://x.com/CNSAWatcher/status/1957713052931154388

Why do Americans make capeslop instead of actually inspiring movies like this? Why are the bugs being more aryan than us right now?

neutronbros it's happening

>>16755901
Congress doesn’t realize the scope of this yet but trust the plan, they WILL be spooked soon

>>16755979
>orange and blue everywhere
>generic epic music
that is capeslop

>>16755988
we've been waiting forever. call us when it actually happens.

>>16755975
Still clinging to that line even though we know the doors on V2 work fine?

>>16755977
The USSR was only ahead of America in certain areas, by months at most, because they were willing to kill cosmonauts to stay ahead.

Is it normal to have to swap out engines after a SF/spin prime? I swear they had to do this for both tests of S38.

>>16755997
Even though they failed twice in a row.

>>16755998
luna 2 was 5 years ahead of ranger 7, no astronauts involved

>>16756001
I meant S37

>>16756002
There has only been one V2 flight that made it to the coast phase, in which the doors were functional but had to be kept shut due to the methane leak.

>>16755935
Zubrin is pro QI btw and wrote a forward in McCullough new book which is a development I find absolutely fascinating

>>16755977
society is significantly more degraded and there are way more problems now than the 60s. China landing will create something easy to get people to rally behind politically. Screenshot this. You will see republicans saying how DEI created this situation

>>16756005
I don't think you appreciate how much comparing Luna 2 with Ranger 7 undermines your position of the Soviets being ahead.

>>16756007
>The door could have opened, but it didn't wanna!

>>16756012
i don't disagree with anything you say, but what you're predicting here is finger-pointing. finger-pointing is definitely going to happen, and some of it's going to be deserved. once that's done, are we going to be able to get serious and move forward? i'm skeptical.
>>16756014
my position is that it took us 5 years to have our own moon impactor mission which returned useful data. this isn't some autistic triviality. luna 2 was a huge deal at the time and we spent a lot of effort trying to match it. if you disagree then feel free to articulate why.

"Math -- bitches!"

>>16756027
low tier analysis is low tier

Let's make that a little bigger.

>>16756025
>if you disagree then feel free to articulate why

Compare the two vehicles.

>>16756030
>Starship's 10th flight is almost half a year early.

>>16755988
2 weeks ago they said it was 6 weeks away

NB

>A frequently noted competitor to Moore’s law is known as Wright’s law, which has aeronautical roots (Wright 1936). Wright’s law (also called power law, experience curve and Henderson’s law) relates some quality of a manufactured unit (for Wright, airplanes) to the volume of units manufactured. The equation expresses the idea that performance—price or a quality metric—improves according to a power of the number produced or, alternatively stated, improves by a constant percentage for every doubling of the total number produced.

https://www.thespacereview.com/article/3632/1

Sloppy elon slopped to the bottom faster than the competition. And thats a good thing. Now all the slop are belong to us!

>>16756040
OpenAIs 48% market share is pretty insane

>>16756040
It is kinda crazy how fast gronk rose to power. elon must be stopped

>>16756060
At last, our first dose of chinese cringe. Sad it exists there, too

>>16755420
this is what we get for going all in on Elon during early lunar contracts

>>16755809
dead planet

>>16756025
>are we going to be able to get serious and move forward?
I think so, at the very least things can't stay the same forever

>>16756040
Deepseek is still the best. No need to pay some jew a montly fee, just use it whenever you want.

>>16756060
>Self-respect, self-confidence, self-reliance, and self-improvement
According to the modern leftists in the west, those ideas are white supremacist thinking and racist

>>16756113
Yeah imagine if the National Team won and we had 5+ more years to wait.

>>16756113
$3B wasn't to go "all in" Elon. It was to stop the commercial space entirely. Congress thought no one would bid that low.

>>16756134
And people should jog their memory. Cause when SpaceX won, congress threw a fit. Bill Nelson was cheering on Blue Origin to sue. Congress recreated their NASA budget and gave Blue Origin
$4 billion dollars in funding with no competition.

>>16755895
lol
starship has never been delayed for a fucking second by regulators
they've never been ready in time

>>16756007
I thought the methane leak pressured the cargo bay too much for them to open, but either way the methane leak prevented the doors from operating.

>>16756148
Starship launches have been delayed by months waiting for launch licenses.

>>16756153
Yes, the doors were functional but the bay had become pressurized. Had they opened the doors it would have blown S35 into a tumble and/or a change of course.

just finished this. not a half bad novel. kinda drags on.
you reading anything /sfg/?

>>16756159
I'm more shocked that bay is able to be pressurized desu

>>16756148
bullshit

>>16756178
i've been kinda reading philip dick's we can build you. very good, just like all of his supposedly lesser works are. has a character in it who reminds me of elon.

>>16756178
I'm on the last book of WoT

>>16756183
wot?

>>16756184
wheel of time

>>16756178
I'd forgotten I'd read that. I also liked his "Rocheworld".

Someone quoted from Neal Asher's Polity universe so I just started on that, but it is turning out to be just a cheap copy of the Culture.

my lovely

>>16756155
POST UR PROOF
The most they have is bitching about a day or two of waiting, because they didn't do their paper work and wanted answers at 2 am on a friday

>>16756159
>The door could have opened, but it it dinna wanna!

Then it didn't in fact actually work. Could Elon Simps please stop making up their own rules?

>>16756132
And where is Elon's moon lander? It was supposed to be Moon in 2024.

Despite everything, I still trust the plan.

>>16756178
I finished Double Star a week or so ago and haven't decided what to pick up next.

>>16756178
Litany of the Long Sun is sitting on my desk waiting until I'm mentally prepared to dive back into Gene Wolfe's Bullshit™
Book of the New Sun was incredible but draining.

/sfg/- Starship Failure Guaranteed

>>16755895
>Starship in Starbase was delayed by 2 years for environmental assessment bullshit.
lmao

>>16756343
Go fuck yourself. Go. Fuck. Your self. Is that clear? I hope it is!

>>16756223
The proof is in the pudding

Rumors of big news coming out of China in september

>>16756403
confirmed. there will be news. screenshot this.

big trouble

>>16756403
China is an amazing country. Absolutely mogs India

What design changes will there be from Starship and HLS starship? Will they be very similar or have massive fundamental design changes?

>>16756426
broadly similar. the door on HLS is also designed to not open.

>>16756426
HLS is a powerpoint

>>16756414
>absolutely mogs India

I mean, everywhere does. It’s the worst place on the planet (outside of active conflict/civil unrest zones) by A LOT.

>>16756430
>americans finally get back to the moon
>the door doesn't open
>chinks land next to you and the taikonuats get out and laugh at you
the us's humiliation will finally be complete.

>>16756426
HLS Starship will not explode. Hopefully.

>>16756442
That's why I asked. If HLS starship is 98% similar to Starship with just a few minor changes, there's still chance for Artemis III before 2030. But if HLS Starship needs large sweeping changes, I'm afraid that it's gonna to be the early 2030s before HLS Starship lands on the moon.

>>16756481
HLS needs all the interior habitation fittings, none of which SpaceX it seems haven't even started on. Plus fuel transfer and in space chill, landing rockets, legs, nav and a hundred other things. HLS is just another PowerPoint.

>>16756481
If it takes them years to get a simple door correct, good luck to them developing a fully NASA redundant life support, multiple airlocks, landing legs, hot gas thrusters, windows, elevator, paint job, depot. Oh yeah, the depot

>>16756481
They need to make Starship human rated for starters. No one is surviving the suicidal belly flop and instant 10+G forces without major changes.

>>16756519
That's easily survivable. And HLS doesn't belly flop

>>16756519
The flip is like max 3Gs for 5s lol, more gentle than flying Dragon uphill

>>16756519
The belly flip doesn't seem anything that problematic if properly harnessed, it's just dangerous af if anything goes wrong.

Why not just take a modified Dragon to the moon

>>16756550
Great idea. We should call it... Gray Dragon

>>16756550
Why not put Tesla chargers at In-n-Out instead of building a Telsa Cafe? Because Elon over complicates everything.

>>16756550
it cant survive the return trip without tiles

>>16756557
return trip?

>>16756550
Holy fucking genius! Call it Blue Dragoon

Why doesn't Elon post hardware anymore?

hes a redditor now

>>16756550
Let's not.

>>16756567
trust the master plan.

>>16756576
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2rgsan/i_am_elon_musk_ceocto_of_a_rocket_company_ama/
11 years
Fucking kek, these comment edits

>>16756595
as something of a historian, allowing comments to be editing or deleted drives me up the wall

>>16756595
Musks greatest achievements are not in the past, but will happen in the future, namely Starship and actually working widely deployable and cheap self-driving just to name the two most obvious ones
but after that you have humanoid robots, AGI, merging with AGI (or whatever else you might do with a BCI)
popularizing EVs and creating a high cadence partially reusable rocket is going to be small compared to self driving EVs and actually a fully reusable even higher cadence massive rocket

>>16756519
Orbital transfer to go up and down on an F9/Dragon capsule, or even, may Allah forgive me, SLS and Orion. The original plan is to dock it to Gayteway, crew gets on and off in NGR halo orbit.
HLS will never come back to urf, takes too much dV even without the tiles an sheeit.

>>16756555
because In-n-Out is crap

>>16756621
trvth

>>16756607
>self driving

Chinoids will beat him to it, their stuff is catching up very fast, almost up to scratch with Tesla FSD and Elon was too fucking retarded and autistic to believe in lidar costs dropping (it has, massively) whereas every chinoid EV has lidar ready to go. He has fucked himself.

>robots

Chinoid robots are massively ahead of Tesla, elons bots are dog shit compared to some of the truly scary stuff coming out of unitree and other chink companies.

>>16756557
>without tiles
kek. you are trolling, but in the offchance you are not the tiles are much less resiliant than pica. dragon is legit capable of lunar return, starship is not and will never be unless the shield is completely redesigned.

>>16756595
How does this guy that smokes pot keep getting away with it??

>>16756222
It’s funny because it’s exponentially outdated now due to the natural explosion of computing technology, but back in the 60s/70s this little guy was probably one of history’s most autistic inventions ever

Webb peeked at Uranus and got flashed by a new moon
https://youtu.be/pA8jJOEHGtg

>>16756655
why is he spying on me?

>>16756646
wrong, won't have to wait too long for the promise of self-driving to become true actually even if musk has been the boy who cried wolf with it
robots is a bit more far away but I would say its inaccurate to say chinas robots are massively ahead
Tesla purposefully keeps things under wraps so they don't get copied

>>16756664
Delusion the post

>>16756655
>webb peeked at your anus and got flashed by a new dingleberry
ewww

Should I cancel my holiday to Turks and caicos?

>>16756676
Didn't that NSF guy nearly die from diseases or someshit when they went out there to film lol

Ok the gloves are off. This is the first time ULA is going all out like this.

>>16756685
its insane that companies cant get sued for lying about their products

>>16756701
Yeah.

>>16756703
key word is should. he didnt say "will."

>>16756701
the trick is “america’s most advanced launch system” is a vague amorphous claim.
put it under any scrutiny and ULA’s lawyers will say something like “vulcan has the smallest CEP on missions to GEO and beyond, which clearly makes it the most advanced” and your case will get thrown out.

>>16754696
Satellite imagery; Right is North, the island is 1.8km long, 0.4km wide. The launch pad is 1.7km from the mainland and 2.3 km from residential areas. You can also see the Longxing 2 launch pad to the left

>>16756411
in little china

>>16756649
>played his poltical cards absolutely perfectly

>>16756719
looking like a childs draing of a boat from above

>>16756719
I will not be satisfied until Sea Launch returns

>>16756725
trust the plan

This is /sfg/

>>16756743
I feel like there is something missing here

>>16756743
Would only call it vigilante if it wasn't his car

Do you still have faith in this man?

chances there isn't going to be a technical talk after all?

>>16756750
yes

>>16756746
The missing part is he pursued the thieves and shot at them then. No evidence of him being fired at as he alleged was uncovered.

>>16754046 (OP)
It is over.........

>>16756750
he benefits from the snowball effect, all his companies have the top talent and is well funded and positioned at the top of their respective industries, and as the owner he gets all the credit

>>16756755
Still based and in the right.

>>16756756
just a few more days bro

>>16756743
what color were the teens? and were they 18/19 or younger than 18?

>>16756740
You're in luck

>>16756740
>>16756769

>>16756770
I always assumed you could just direct your stage 0 rocket exhaust direct tangential into the ocean but I suppose it makes sense to have a flame trench to divert it sideways

>>16756770
why not just blast the ocean with rocket exhaust?

>>16756740
Sea Launch, my doomed beloved.

Did anyone ever write a book about the rise and fall of Sea Launch? Such unlikely partners...

>>16756719
Why such a small site site? Why not just make the launchpads on the mainland?

>>16756770
>>16756769
Kinda pointless when it can only launch small lift solid rockets. Not viable in the age of reusable rockets.

>>16756782
what about reusable small lift solids? do those have a place in the world of the future?

>>16756784
>reusable
>solids

>>16756791
On-orbit refueling of solids

>>16756791
just pour some more APCP in there and replace the nozzle ablative. it’s not so hard

>>16756791
Shuttle SRBs

a generation of Utahians were kept alive by the SSSRB refurbishment program

>>16756803
>just replace 90% of the rocket
>it's totally not make-work for the SIC

>>16756781
>Haiyang already has accomodations for launches, infrastructure, tracking...
>Lianli island furthermore already has some accomodation/regulatory work done for large liquid launchers launches thanks to the Longxing-2 test earlier this year.
>The coast is entirely built up with residential/touristic areas
>the other km-long piers are already used for other rockets (by China rocket, orienspace, Space Epoch) or too close to a nuclear power plant
>They're also likely to launch CZ-12 familly launchers from the HOS platform and this launch site likely shares a bunch of payload integration/vehicle assembly infrastructure with the platform-launched CZ-12
>Who knows what other municipal/provincial handout may have happened
There's already a CZ-12 familly launch pad operational in Hainan, two in construction in Hainan and another in construction in Jiuquan, they're not exactly lacking in launch sites.

>>16756810
the apcp is 90% of the rocket in the same way that kerolox is 90% of falcon 9

>>16756791
Shuttle SRB. Now go play with the other children.

>>16756813
imagine if they built a 5m reusable rocket in 2020 or earlier and just used that instead of all this stuff they're trying to pull now

>>16756815
Internal Liner has to be entirely replaced, Casting the propellant is usually a significantly higher proportion of the cost of a SRM than a Liquid launcher, also Nozzle and TVC of a SRM usually degrade quicker than for a liquid engine, and finally parachute recovery and no option for reentry burn often means larger stresses during recovery.
You can reuse SRM, and it may even be possible to do it economically, but it's never going to be as economical as a liquid rocket.

>>16756777
>Book?

One is cited on the Wikipedia page and it's 500 pages -- but in Russian and doesn't seem to be available at the usual places.

>>16756791
Reusable cryogenic hybrid solids, even

>>16756813
>they're not exactly lacking in launch sites.

They're lacking in coastal launch sites. Also, launch sites are in operations for decades, sure this might suit their needs for now, but in 20-30 years? I have the feeling that we will see land reclamation works eventually. Launching medium rockets so close to a city also feels quite dangerous. Hard to believe that there wasn't a better location over China's massive coastal length.

Also, it is only for the CZ-12? Or other rockets? How many launchpads are planned to be built?

>https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gmjm8z47jo
>UK's space agency is getting eliminated to free up funding more rapefugees
cant make this shit up

>>16756859
the UK has never been a real player is space, so this is no big loss

>>16756646
How can China beat Tesla to self driving cars when Tesla already has self driving cars.

>>16756808
Utahns

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gmjm8z47jo

kek

>>16756879
Rip

>>16756819
Calling the Shuttle SRB reusable is being extremely generous.

>>16756879
Brits are really delusional aren't they?

>Alaska Airlines selects Starlink for in-flight Wi-Fi. Rollout starts in 2026, entire fleet by 2027
https://news.alaskaair.com/guest-experience/alaska-airlines-to-launch-new-era-of-inflight-connectivity/

>>16756894
Surprisingly, it was. Looked up the data last year, and air they achieved a 70% reuse rate on the casings. Never cost effective, but it was in that sense reusable.

>>16756911
>the casings

anon I...

How the fuck does India have a more competent space program than the literal conquerors of the world

>>16756879
Our country has so little money the government has spent the past year inventing new ways to tax us so I'm not surprised

>>16756922
The world conquerors gave up their conquest and returned their booty like 100 years ago, they no longer exist in the same capacity as they once did.

Russian Bion launch on a Soyuz-2.1b in 40 minutes

>>16756922
Because Queen Elizabeth oversaw the dismantaling of the British Empire.

The EU as a whole struggles in space because of the funding structure ESA is under.

>>16756955
the empire's crown jewel had already been popped out when liz assumed the throne.

>>16756966
your mom's pussy had already been popped out when she met your dad. Nobody cares tranny.

>>16756750
This will get us to Mars, somehow

>>16755230
Orbit achieved

The right way to think about this situation is even if they pull it off they'll still have 600m people living on $7 a day. Americans shouldn't be losing sleep over this whatsoever.

>>16756992
Dvach’s version of 4ASS will save russia with a manned Bion M

>>16756993
oh no, the chinese beating america to the moon... 60 years after america already landed there

>>16756997
precisely, but the pork must flow

>>16756993
that's not the right way to think about it. the right way to think is that america has become so slow and inefficient (corrupt) that they’re losing to an impoverished country at something they have stated as a goal.
>>16756997
also this attitude. we used to have a grand empire… why care that we’ve lost it?

>>16756997
>hmm yes we did a basic flags-and-footprints campaign two generations ago and haven’t gone back since, so it’s fine to let the Chinese go and industrialize and conquer the entire moon actually!

>>16757006
but they're not though they lack the heavy lift for serious cargo

>>16756993
This is not the own you think it is.
If an old guy says he's forgotten more than you've ever known, he's not complimenting you.

>>16756993
All I have to say is, there's due to that article, there's an insane amount of cope from reddit and ars technica and youtube on "This is how we can still get to the Moon before 2030", followed by some insane schizo rambling about some insanely complex plan that usually involves Starship in some way. At this point, changing the mission architecture, even if it's for a much quicker plan, is not gonna to make Artemis III happen before 2030, just due to the amount of time needed for planning of the new mission.

fuck you

>>16757003
>that we’ve lost it?
>we

>>16757006
anon, China is doing a flags and boots mission

>>16757062
did somebody else lose it while I wasn’t looking

>>16757009
>>16757064
After NASA's recent budget proposals, there's currently no plans for missions past Artemis III. Not to mention the continued refusal to drop the SLS, which will bottleneck any future American lunar missions.

I don't think China is gonna to stop developing too. Obviously if they're actually serious about the Moon base, they're gonna to lean heavily on the LM-9 and start developing a new lunar lander. I won't be surprised if there's some kind of upgraded lunar lander that's meant to fly on the LM-9 currently in the early R&D phase right now.

>>16757011
Who cares if you can just push the old guy over

>>16756756
What does this mean?

>>16757064
My point was that complacency is unwise.

>>16757092
starship has fallen
billions must wait 2 weeks

Only big homos don't love Elon Musk.

Why would I want America (Israel) to own the Moon over China again?

>>16757089
Can you push china over?

>>16757109
The journey to push over 1.4 billion people begins with a single shove.

>>16757085
>there's currently no plans for missions past Artemis III

Oh no it's retarded.

>>16757103
shut up

>>16757112
heh

>>16757130
Yeah, I coped initially too

>>16757103
retarded Jewish-dominated WASP American ownership of the Moon is objectively better than Chinese dominance

first eric now stephen

>US defense officials have long worried that China's Guowang satellite network might give the Chinese military access to the kind of ubiquitous connectivity US forces now enjoy with SpaceX's Starlink network.
>It turns out the Guowang constellation could offer a lot more than a homemade Chinese alternative to Starlink's high-speed consumer-grade broadband service. China has disclosed little information about the Guowang network, but there's mounting evidence that the satellites may provide Chinese military forces a tactical edge in any future armed conflict in the Western Pacific.
>The megaconstellation is managed by a secretive company called China SatNet, which was established by the Chinese government in 2021. SatNet has released little information since its formation, and the group doesn't have a website. Chinese officials have not detailed any of the satellites' capabilities or signaled any intention to market the services to consumers.
>Unlike Starlink, the Guowang network consists of satellites manufactured by multiple companies, and they launch on several types of rockets. On its face, the architecture taking shape in low-Earth orbit appears to be more akin to SpaceX's military-grade Starshield satellites and the Space Development Agency's future tranches of data relay and missile-tracking satellites.
>Guowang, or "national network," may also bear similarities to something the US military calls MILNET. Proposed in the Trump administration's budget request for next year, MILNET will be a partnership between the Space Force and the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO). One of the design alternatives under review at the Pentagon is to use SpaceX's Starshield satellites to create a "hybrid mesh network" that the military can rely on for a wide range of applications.
https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/08/china-may-have-taken-an-early-lead-in-the-race-for-a-military-megaconstellation/

>>16757165
I think what's happening is there are people in NASA or the Space Force that wants this out there which can then later be referenced for when they need to testify in front of Congress or something to that effect.

>>16757170
It's the standard gib monies routine.

Why the hell are they using a WB-57 to track the launch of OTV-8 (LEO spaceplane)?

>>16757179
Probably has the optics to observe the spaceplane after payload fairing deployment and during second stage burn.

>>16757135
Why?

https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/1958253996382294034
>Lots of activity on Pad 1 at the Starbase launch complex today clearing the launch mount and preparing for arrival of Super Heavy Booster 16 late tonight at T-minus 4 days and counting!

>>16757173
>gib monies
its more "don't take it away" at this point

How much quicker will Pad 2 be to ready it for a launch?

>>16757210
The USSF is recieving more money than ever.

>>16757213
its an iterative design ans will need at least one RUD before becoming fully operational

>>16757224
The USSF isn't the agency that funds HWO, Chandra, MSR, OCO-2 & 3, New Horizons or the RPS programme just to name a few programmes being cut so some dipshit in a pentagon office can fling more GPS sats to LEO

>>16757265
Guess which is a higher priority to the country's national security.

Also just lolmao at defending MSR.

https://www.spacex.com/launches/ussf36
https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1BdGYZlPbDQJX

>>16757274
>Also just lolmao at defending MSR.
>Company proposes to build a large lander that can plausibly greatly increase mass margins for MSR in the 2030s
>let's cut MSR

>>16757319
>company proposes thing that is not MSR

Also notice how you completely avoided discussing the issues MSR is having.

>>16757165
>That sea of Solar Roofs

*worried look*

GET THE FUCK IN HERE!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZUQe38SJIs&t
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZUQe38SJIs&t
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZUQe38SJIs&t
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZUQe38SJIs&t
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZUQe38SJIs&t

Ignore link spam. Post roggits

>>16757348
kys

when is the next starship going to launch? it has been like 3 or 4 months since the last one. elon? you said once a month at least?

>>16757378
2 weeks

>>16757378
>elon?
The guy is a pathological liar, why would you even believe what he says anyways.

>>16757378
>>16757385

New thread when?

>>16757420
When this reach page 10, tourist.

>>16757420
when starship flies

It's fucking over. Elon is quitting his new political patyand is instead going to back JD Vance fully to become next president. JD will definitely lose. another giant Musk freakoutandwe will be no closer to Mars by the end of the NEXT presidency.

>>16757425
It’s not too late to nationalize SpaceX

>>16757378
This upcoming Sabbath. Which is a sin. A Commandment breaking level sin.

>>16757425
>JD will definitely lose

Lefty anon you are pretty funny, I will see to it that you will die last.

fuck you

test

I give it an D. Try harder next time.

>>16757425
>next president
I don't think we're gonna have any more after this, and that's a (good) thing.

>>16757489
We haven't had a president since JFK's head did that

>>16757501
True.

ANI ARE YOU OK?
HAHA

sorry folks! Mars is cancelled for the goonbots. The end of the Howard Hughes arc. This ends with him generating AI CP for personal pleasure. The starship was the spruce goose. And Elon will have no lasting impact as his companies fall to ruin.

save me QI drive save me QI drive pls save me

>509km and falling

fffffffffffff

tomorrow is another day
another day of shit

>starship flight 10 in 4 days
>still no orbit
>mk 3 was supposed to orbit in 2019
>Elon entire Twitter feed is AI goonbots and shiling aislop
>even his followers replies can't hide their despair
I think I'm gonna be sick

>>16757600
meanwhile $12 for 3 soggy strips of bacon at the Tesla diner

it's so over

Can you shut the fuck up

I want a meteor to end it all

>>16757614
Harvard scientists just recently confirmed there is an alien dreadnought on its way to intercept Earth with hostile intent.

>>16757616
wake me when there is a kino alien pre-dreadnought

>>16757618
kek and navalpilled

kino list

>>16757627
>No Mars flights

>>16757629
yet

>>16757630
Bezos will be at us to Mars and moon. China will be at us

>>16757600
Unrealistic datelines have always been the norm with Musk, nothing has changed.
Spacex is mostly run by other people, all he has to do is let them do their job.

>>16757681
he's been letting them do their job and the result has been 0 successful starship flights in 2025

>>16757681
Elon being hands off is killing SpaceX and Tesla you absolute fucking idiot

https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/1958407553399796124
>Super Heavy Booster 16 has rolled out to pad 1 at the Starbase launch complex tonight for upcoming Starship test flight 10. Let's Go!

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1958425562520957103

It's over

>>16757770
Does this mean the ketamine & nitrous combo are particularly good tonight at 2 AM?
buzzy

>>16757600
If you told me last year that Musk going all in on Trump would actually end up slowing SpaceX down I wouldn't believe you

HAhahA see???? DONT you retards GET IT?! He is soooo self aware and only pretending to shill A.I. slop all cringey like that! Awww shucks guys, we fell for it!! Ol musky got us good FUCK

>>16757605
Have you tried his melty, tho? >>16754598

>>16756740
>return of sea launch
This may happen in a few days if Space Pioneer fucks up again

>Just a reminder that if Flight 10 goes well, SpaceX will attempt to catch the ship on Flight 11.
Spacesudoer is such a liar lmao. The plan was to have two (or three) soft water landings of V2 before a catch attempt. So far we have zero. Expect a catch attempt with the third V3 in Feb 2027

>>16757711
If being hands-on is what his companies need then he should be hands-on, it's all his decision yet he makes the wrong ones. Elon is a dumb faggot. NASA will take us to the moon like they did before. Starship has launched like 10 times and blown up 5 of those times. SLS launched once and succeeded once. Trump funded the next mission as well. Chy-ena and Shitlon literally cannot compete with America (aka Boeing and Lockheed).

>>16757861
SLS cant even send Orion to LLO

>>16757859
it was 2 soft water landings in a row with the same configuration
assuming that still holds, even if flight 10 and 11 both have perfect soft landings, then v3 would still have to do 12 and 13 perfectly as well before an actual catch attempt was done on 14

maybe v2 and v3 are similar enough that they don't need 2 in a row (not that much further stretched or whatever)

>>16757861
lmao

>>16757864
Truly the rocket of the future.

>>16757861
Obviously troling but the reality is that SpaceX lost America the moon by making such a stupid lander. If NASA had been very strict on the exact requirements then none of thiss would have happened, but they developed a fetish for 'private industry knows best teehee' type thinking.

>>16757909
lol are you retarded, private industry does know best

The launches would start going well if they brought back Insprucker for coverage work

>>16757925
you can tell without an ounce of doubt how a think tank of fsggot euros got together in the digital drafting table to design this underperforming match stick

>>16757912
It OBVIOUSLY doesn't though. Look no further than Starship. It's a disaster. They have infinite money to do what they want and it's a disaster. NASA is beholden to the political winds of America for their funding, which absolutely cripples them, but Shuttle worked on the first flight and never failed due to incompetence. Challenger was because of SRBs which NASA was forced to use due to congress and budgetary constraints. And Columbia was due to them being absolutely forbidden to fix known issues after the shuttle exited it's test flight campaign, another political handicap. If NASA actually had an unlimited vehicle development budget and an their funders had an unlimited tolerance for failure like SpaceX, NASA would produce a version of Starship which was actually functional and much better. NASA got forced to cancel Venturestar because it had leaky hydrogen tanks ffs. Imagine if they could blow up 10 of them in a row andget away with it?

>>16757812
>Europoors
well it is getting a bit old, I try to mix it up by using Euroids
>race IQ
>NOOOO I have to believe everyone can be super smart!

>>16757948
it does, fag

May a plague befall whoever is responsible for downselecting to the name “Guardians”

>>16757969
>no argument