Thread 16755443

Sometimes on X, as in real life, a discussion arises about Ashkenazi Jewish IQ. Such discussions usually involve claims (such as the one made by Grok above) that Ashkenazi Jewish IQ is superior to that of whites, which explains their observed over-representation in positions of power such as academia and politics. These claims are hotly disputed. As a psychological scientist, I thought I’d investigate, so that you don’t have to.

The 2005 Cochran paper referenced by Grok can be found here. In the section titled ‘The Psychometric Evidence about Ashkenazi IQ’, it states: “Ashkenazi Jews have the highest average IQ of any ethnic group for which there are reliable data. They score 0.75 to 1.0 standard deviations above the general European average, corresponding to an IQ [of] 112-115. This has been seen in many studies (Backman, 1972; Levinson, 1959; Romanoff, 1976).”

However, these claims, as well as the other claims from this section, cannot be verified.

Backman’s study can be found here. The most important table from it is reproduced below.

>>16755443 (OP)
This table suggests that Jewish intelligence is higher than that of whites in verbal knowledge (VKN) and mathematical ability (MAT). If intelligence was limited to these two submeasures (ignoring e.g. English language and visual reasoning abilities), and normalised to a white IQ of 100, Jews would score ((57.1/51.9)*100) = 110 for verbal knowledge and ((58.6/52.1)*100) = 113 for mathematical knowledge, around 112 overall.

This has been taken as hard evidence of superior Jewish IQ by Cochran and by Grok and others.

However, if we look at the ‘Sex’ group, we also see great differences between men and women. Normalised to a female IQ of 100, men score ((53.7/48.3)*100) = 112 in verbal knowledge and an incredible ((63.9/44.6)*100) = 144 for mathematical ability. Taken together, this suggests an IQ of 128 or so for men compared to 100 for women.

Such a suggestion is transparently ridiculous. Yet, it comes from the exact same dataset as the supposed hard evidence of superior Jewish intelligence.

If I would be an academic, and claim that men had superior IQs to women based on this dataset, and that this superior IQ explained male over-representation in academia and politics, I would be fired instantly. I would be cancelled, hounded to oblivion and destroyed. Yet, it’s acceptable to make the exact same claim about a superior Jewish IQ from the exact same dataset. Grok will even it repeat it unquestioningly.

Moreover, it’s apparent from reading the methodology of the study that the sampling is suspect. The initial study of 400,000 students might have been representative, but this particular study only looked at the 2,925 students who responded to a follow-up study five years after graduation. It’s not clear that this subsample is representative of the actual racial populations.

>>16755444
Levinson’s 1959 study from the Journal of Clinical Psychology is not available online and could only be found if I have access to a university library. Romanoff’s study is part of a thesis that can only be found on microfiche at the National University of Israel.

So of the three ancient references given by Cochran, two are unavailable, and the third contains massive methological flaws.

A 2o04 paper by Richard Lynn is also referenced. It can be found here.

Lynn’s paper mostly examines verbal intelligence. He does not skirt around this point; it is stated openly in the table in the discussion section (reproduced below).

He notes, as per Backman, that Jews score differently on various submeasures of intelligence. Although they might score higher than whites on verbal intelligence, they are known to have significantly lower scores on some other measures. This can be seen in Table 2 from Backman’s study, where whites scored 51.8 on a measure of visual reasoning and Jews only 46.0.

Taking one submeasure on which Jews do well, and generalising it to assume that Jews do well on all submeasures, is a classic composition fallacy. If I would say that Jews have lower IQs than whites because they scored only ((46.0/51.8)*100) = 89 on a submeasure of visual reasoning, which I had generalised to Jewish IQ in general, I would get laughed out of academia, if not cancelled for life on anti-semitism accusations. Yet people who do make this exact same composition fallacy, only in favour of Jews, are quoted by Grok as world psychology experts.

>>16755443 (OP)
Moreover, Lynn’s paper states “These figures are well below previous estimates of Jewish verbal ability.” This tells us that, even by the one of the few measures Jews do excel at, a normalised score of 107-115 is an exaggeration. He notes that this Backman study is the only one with a proper national representational sample, meaning that it has the highest quality data of all the studies on this subject. The other studies showing Jewish superiority do not have enough representation or a big enough sample size to be valid.

Lynn concludes that “Probably all that can be concluded with a fair degree of confidence at present is that Jews have high crystallized intelligence (verbal ability) of which the vocabulary test used in the present study is a good measure and that on this ability their IQ in relation to gentile whites is approximately 107.5.” Crystallised intelligence is another way of saying ‘learned intelligence’ and is primarily a matter of education, which Jews are well-known for taking seriously, and is something very different to natural intelligence.

The Cochran paper then goes on to cite The Jew In London, a study from 1900, as evidence for this supposed superior IQ (not accessible).

Also linked here is a 1928 paper from the Eugenics Review. This paper is also cited by Cochran as evidence of Jewish mental superiority. But the same paper states that Jews are between 100% and 300% more likely than whites to suffer mental disease. As with the Backman study, some extremely selective reporting of the results has taken place, such that pro-Jewish results are emphasised, and anti-Jewish results are de-emphasised. Moreover, this study was funded by the Jewish Health Organisation, an obvious conflict of interest.

>>16755443 (OP)
The Eugenics Review study is methodologically flawed on a number of counts. For one, the intelligence test questions are obviously loaded in favour of learned intelligence and not natural intelligence. For another, we know from the Wilson Effect that the heritability of intelligence increases with age, from 0.2 at age five to 0.8 at age 20. It follows from this that intelligence tests given to younger children, such as the eight to thirteen-year olds in the Eugenics Review study, reflect the environment the child was raised in more than their natural, biological intelligence. Indeed, the paper alludes to this, stating “It is often alleged that, though Jewish children are precocious, they do not fulfil their early promise.”

Perhaps most damningly, the paper concludes that the evidence within is too flimsy to draw any conclusions outside of its sample of Jewish emigre children in London. A 21st Century observer would point out that immigrants to the West from e.g. India and Nigeria are known to be much smarter than the racial averages of their home nations, owing to a powerful selective process, and that the same process would likely have selected for higher intelligence among Jewish immigrants to London 100 years ago, making the Eugenics Review study unreliable.

That is all the evidence presented in the paper linked by Grok for supposedly superior Ashkenazi Jewish intelligence. It’s extremely weak.

>>16755443 (OP)
There seems to have been a high degree of conflation, deliberate or otherwise, between verbal and mathematical intelligence on the one hand, and general intelligence on the other. This conflation is not made for visual reasoning intelligence, in which Jews do poorly. So high levels of Jewish success in literature and mathematics are taken as evidence of high Jewish IQ, but low levels of Jewish success in engineering and architecture are not taken as evidence of low Jewish IQ. This selective reasoning seems to reflect a massive pro-Jewish bias on the part of intelligence researchers. This bias appears to have influenced Grok.

Ashkenazi Jews have been selected over time for aptitude in specifically urban occupations, hence why (in comparison to whites) they are great at reading and talking, and poor at visual reasoning. They have not been selected for all-round intellectual superiority. Great Jewish engineers and architects are extremely rare: one would expect the exact opposite if Jews were all-round intellectually superior to whites.

Thus, Ashkenazi Jews cannot be said to be smarter than whites in general. Certain subfacets of Ashkenazi Jewish intelligence might be higher than thosr of whites, but certain other subfacets are lower, so claims of overall Ashkenazi Jewish IQs of 108-115 are complete rubbish.

>>16755443 (OP)
The conclusion of this author is that Ashkenazi Jewish over-representation in positions of power is because of Christians. Christians believe that God blesses those who bless Israel (Genesis 12:3), where ‘Israel’ is taken to mean Jewish interests in general, and that “if the Gentiles have shared in the Jews’ spiritual blessings, they owe it to the Jews to share with them their material blessings” (Romans 15:27). As a result, they work to promote Jews into high positions of power in academia, politics, business and other areas, reasoning that by serving the Jews in this manner, God will bless them.

Support for this assertion comes from the words of Charles Murray, a Christian researcher, who claims that the reason for supposed higher Jewish IQ is “The Jews are God’s chosen people”. This statement summarises the pitiful state of research into the subject of race and IQ in 2025. James Watson can have his reputation destroyed for suggesting that whites are smarter than blacks for biological reasons, but researchers who make the exact same claim about Jews being smarter than whites, only on far, far, far weaker evidence than Watson has, are cited as authorities.

I argue that the perception of Jews as intellectually superior comes from their central role in the Abrahamic religions, and not from any actual advantage in biological intelligence. Because of this central religious role, they are worshipped by Christians looking to curry favour with the God of Abraham. This worship leads to them being promoted by Christians into positions of power, influence and wealth. This promotion by Christians, and not superior IQ, explains massive Jewish over-representation in such positions. The reason why the Ashkenazis are the prime beneficiaries of this process, and not other subpopulations of Jews, is because the Ashkenazis live around the most credulous and gullible Christians, i.e. American ones.

>>16755443 (OP)
ask it about the Jewish-black IQ gap

>>16755481
to see which one it is programmed to suck off more, jews or blacks

>>16755443 (OP)
why didnt these selection pressures work on the mizrahi tho?

>>16755483
Good question. Presumably something about the fact that the Mizrahis stayed in teh Middle East

>>16755443 (OP)
I slightly "dug", it's merely "verbal IQ", aka pilpul IQ, from reading pilpul, the book, aka talmud

>>16755443 (OP)
The IQ of Israel is less than 100, of which most are Ashkenazi. Of course it's bullshit

Im pretty sure if you narrowed down white population to a specific subset the size of jewish population you could get an average IQ even higher than that of ashkenazis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stLCurXu0fc
Here's a video. TLDR jews don't have higher IQ and even if they did they are still overrepresented and even if they were smarter and overrepresented by merit it still wouldn't be good for society.

I love how society is structurally unfair, but if you mention jewish over representation it suddenly becomes a meritocracy.

We already did the experiment of letting jews run a country. It was called the USSR. They did some ok things, but it was a failure. No need to repeat it in the US

>>16758095
People are really waking up on this issue now

> As a psychological scientist
Stopped reading. Opinions rejected. Imagine if someone introduced themselves as a chemical scientist, or a physics science lmfao

>>16755449
>Great Jewish engineers and architects are extremely rare: one would expect the exact opposite if Jews were all-round intellectually superior to whites.
Kek now this is some cope. That's like saying because whites aren't street smart like blacks that whites aren't all-around intellectually superior to blacks. Will you say this on the record, or are you merely an antisemitic coper?

>>16755443 (OP)
jews dont have high iqs they sell their soul because the devil likes them lmao they were supposed to be the chosen people of israel but i came in and made them retarded shczios lol spell powaaaa metaphysics cuh

>>16755446
>Lynn concludes that “Probably all that can be concluded with a fair degree of confidence at present is that Jews have high crystallized intelligence (verbal ability) of which the vocabulary test used in the present study is a good measure and that on this ability their IQ in relation to gentile whites is approximately 107.5.” Crystallised intelligence is another way of saying ‘learned intelligence’ and is primarily a matter of education, which Jews are well-known for taking seriously, and is something very different to natural intelligence.
This supports my crackpot theory that the tetragrammaton actually can be pronounced, and that it was original designed as the imperative case of a command language to control Indians to make them build the pyramids. It also - totally accidentally, of course - can be pronounced in English, and is written in English as
>You, who
and can still be used as imperative, to manipulate those who are weak in spirit, because telling someone that they totally are mad will eventually make them mad, as everyone on this website knows.

In short, the USA is a Jewish psyop, can't prove me wrong because it's an unfalsifiable claim.

>>16758692
> compares engineering and architecture to nignogging
Jewish?

>>16755544(me)
check'd and this'd

>>16759052
not an argument. i accept your concession.

>>16755443 (OP)
>Average IQ higher
Before you continue, please explain, in plain English, what that statistic would show if it was true. Otherwise, you'll be confirmed as an pseudointellectual schizo racist. I'm waiting.
That means we have more geniuses and less retards than whites.

>>16755443 (OP)
>Average IQ higher
Before you continue, please explain, in plain English, what that statistic would show if it was true. Otherwise, you'll be confirmed as an pseudointellectual schizo racist. I'm waiting.

Jesus Christ are you guys still coping about the superior brains of the Jews?

I'm an antisemite, hate jews, Holocaust didn't happen etc., but I don't deny their superior average IQ. About 107-110 (Ashkenazi)

>>16755444
>Such a suggestion is transparently ridiculous.

Have you ever met a woman bro? they are dumb as fuck.

IQ and quantifiable intelligence is real and any arguments trying to argue it isn't is a jewish psyop which includes the existence of this thread which does nothing but serve to give more airtime to anti-IQ propaganda that only will result in further advancements to the loss of racial consciousness
t. Harvey specter

>>16761019
>Anti-semitic comments saying Jewish IQ is inflated is a Jewish psyop
????????

>>16760751
denounce talmud

>>16761242
I denounce the Talmud and acknowledge the superior IQ of the Ashkenazi. Cope and dilate.

Seems well reasoned. This should be pretty easy to conclusively test. Intelligence research is criminally underdeveloped due to political bias.
Funny thing you mentioned Murray, went to read his wiki page and there's a statement:
>The Bell Curve also argues that average intelligence quotient (IQ) differences between racial and ethnic groups are at least partly genetic in origin, a view that is now considered discredited by mainstream science.[7][8][9][10]
I guess IQ isn't actually at all heritable and is 100% nurture, the science says so :)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Murray_(political_scientist)

>>16760751
Read the OP you stupid nigger

>>16755481
>>16755482
Also curious about how the bit deals with this

>>16761225
Reading is too hard for /sci/

>>16755443 (OP)
how are you gonna explain away their accomplishments like the nobels etc

>>16761242
I denounce the Talmud
>>16761287
It's retarded cope, and a re-hasing of this video>>16758095
There's too many vectors of evidence. IQ tests by themselves are overwhelming (dozens and dozens of studies all pointing towards the same thing, not just these 2 or by the OP), nevermind their overrepresentation in mathematics, physics, and obviously their wealth and power and how they virtually run the West (not soley because of IQ, of course, but impossible without).

>>16761320
>>16761358
Someone sometime somewhere said that if you believe an intelligence test misrepresents a group of people, look at their accomplishments.

For the Jew to be as successful at villainy as their detractors claim, they would have to be as smart as they are claimed to be.

>>16761242
>>16761246
>>16761358
The word is RENOUNCE. Verbal intelligence my fucking ass.

>>16762092
anon, it was an anti-semitic person who assumed that comments in support of jews must have come from jews. yes, he used the wrong word. no, pointing it out wouldn't have been productive in any way. it's far more important to use the same language he wanted to prove we're not jewish to shut him up. this is style of verbal intelligence beyond just precision of words (talmudic analysis). rather it's a level of verbal intelligence conducive to effective communication (one may go so far to say: manipulation) ;)

>>16761358
the video basically busts the theory apart
it did not hold up to scrutiny at all
we will be waiting for your refutation of the entire video
until then, jews do not have higher iq on average

>>16762632
No it doesn't. It goes over a few "studies". Pic rel is a compilation of studies, from Richard Lynn's book (THE IQ-differences guy)
As for that shitty video, there's already been responses
https://youtu.be/yLoind0vKH8?feature=shared
I don't like it either, but I'm objective. Jews are smarter on average.

>>16761358
>how they virtually run the West
They run the West because they have a slave army of Christians, not because of IQ

>>16762636
Israel IQ 95: how?

>>16762760
85 IQ blacks would never be able to run the West, no matter how much nepotism they tried. They are simply not capable. Jews are capable, as evidenced by the fact.
>>16762761
Israel is not an Ashkenazi ethnostate. Like 40% are Arab Jews (~85), the rest are Ashkenazi (105-110), Sephardic (~100), even some Ethiopians (~70).

I mean i could believe it, this group migrated a lot and so had much higher mixture with different population groups. This kind of mixture is usually results in healthier individuals, both mentally and physically.

Nowadays we don't form such rigid social groups anymore, and I'm sure the genetic identity of this group will be more or less absorbed into the general population over the next few decades

>>16760741
Nobody in the thread can respond to such a simple request. Entire thread full of retards confirmed.

>>16763149
You think you're real smart for this, when in reality you're a dumb fuck who doesn't know it's already been answered ITT

>population is overrepresented in positions of power
so are they doing a good job?
gesturing to the world at large,
so, are they doing a good job?

>Jewish intelligence is genetic but for everyone else it's just socioeconomic factors
lmao

>>16763209
Then point out the answer or answer it yourself. The correct answer is literally a one sentence response, and I don't feel like reading through paragraphs of retard pseud bullshit to confirm it. Lest I continue to call you and everyone else here retards.

>>16755443 (OP)
BBC>Jewish IQ
Simple as.

>>16763343
See
>>16762078
>>16762775

>>16763409
Yawn. It's literally highschool stats and an understanding of IQ. Low IQ predicts mental retardation. High IQ predicts genius. A middling IQ can be boosted by hitting the math books. Ashkenazi Jews having higher IQ than white people just means they have less retards, more geniuses, or a culture that values education more than sports and music. Pick any as an explanation, then do some research and see if the numbers add up.

>>16763444
For the Jew to be as successful at villainy as their detractors claim, they would have to be as smart as they are claimed to be.

>>16763448
>They
Which ones? Certainly not all of them.

>>16758692
>>16759069
I'll take your bait, niggerjew.

Northern and Western Europeans have higher levels of oxytocin in the brain compared to niggers.

>https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4624387/

Oxytocin is the hormone that facilitates social bonding, both between mothers and their infants, and between different tribes. These higher levels of trust were necessary for ancient Europeans to survive their harsh winters via cooperation. The reason Europeans value word as law so much higher than other cultures is because of how much value trust carried. When Northern and Western Europeans were introduced to foreigners outside of their geographical zone, they were also introduced to concepts like deception, lying, and cheating on a scale so far beyond what deviants their own cultures could produce. This is why Northern and Western European nation utilize incredibly complex legal systems, in an attempt to overcome their biological social "weakness" compared to the scum walking the rest of the world.

The reason whites trust niggers (and other subhumans) is because whites are biologically inclined to trust others. It's also why Northern and Western Europeans are so incredibly vindictive not against individuals (like blacks especially, but also other non-whites), but against entire groups. All it took were a couple hundred Native Americans to resign their entire ethnic group to a genocide by white Americans, for example, as well as the absolute obliteration of China during the Opium Wars.

Maybe you, a niggerjew, think whites are retarded for trusting niggers on the street, making whites "naive" or "stupid". Do you?

>>16762775
>Jews are capable, as evidenced by the fact
Jews are capable of taking over and then destroying a place, not running one, as evidenced by the fact.

>>16764202
You just analogized whites to women with a bunch of psychobabble. Let me ground what you just said and reflect it back to you. When a woman chases a guy who displays obvious red flags of violence, and ends up murdered, is she naive or stupid? Or is she secretly smarter than men and simply a little too trusting?

It's amusing to see the holes nazi retards will dig themselves into just to avoid admitting ashkenazi Jews are smarter than they are.

>>16755443 (OP)
>cultural emphasis on education is higher
And over generations this means the Ashkenazi population selects for intelligence
I’m not convinced

>>16764467
>my superior pattern recognition tells me there will never be a second holocaust for my behavior

Notice how Antisemitism is a pseudo-compliment?

"So it's not the Chinese?"
"Nope"
"What about the Russians?"
"Nope"
"Indians?"
"Nope"
"So who's behind it all?"
"The JEW. It is ALWAYS the JEW"
"So only the Jew is smart enough to control the world?"
"YES"
"Okay, cool"

No one else is brilliant enough to be supervillains apparently.

>>16764923
I accept your concession

>>16767697
The only intelligence required was in inventing Christianity, since then jews have had a literal slave army of white people willing to do their bidding at all times

>>16755443 (OP)
>>16755444
>>16755445

The supposed success has nothing to do with IQ.
Jewish culture promotes nepotism (protecting the tribe), while western culture promotes meritocracy (give everyone a chance regardless of background). A Jew will often hire another Jew even if there is an equally capable non-Jew around, so once a couple of them are in a position of power they tend to accumulate in number. It's the same reason why we get so many Indians in tech now, they almost always hire other Indians.

>>16768535
Conspicuously absent in your analysis is how that initial few got their meritocratic roles in the first place, and also how they climbed the ladder to be the ones in charge of hiring others. 0.5% btw.

>>16764477
Yeah, why aren't Ethiopian Jews geniuses? They have a cultural focus on education too.

>>16768538
Conspicuously absent in your analysis is that i never implied that all of them are retared. Obviously each ethnic group has their outliers with merit. The difference is that their outliers then prefer to hire, invest in or educate outliers of their group, instead of outliers of all groups. This makes a huge difference.

>>16767697
kek'd

>>16768547
You're still missing the point. The implication must be that the outliers of the Ashkenazi Jewish population (e.g. Neumann, Einstein) are far more common than the outliers of other demographics given the, what, 100x fold difference in population sizes? You're now making an argument that whites and blacks have equal amounts of low IQ individuals given their parity in low IQ prison populations. Is that something you'll support on the record?

>>16755811
20% of Israel is Arabs and it also has Russians.

>>16762636
So since we can now admit there is a significant IQ difference between races, you are okay with us gassing your kind right? It's only fair, according to your playbook. You've already opened the door by promoting biological essentialism. Now can you please admit jews are evil and deserve to be gassed?

>>16768979
This isn't a gotcha. You're not arguing a redditor or chatgpt. Races obviously are meaningfully different, including in important stuff like like average intelligence.
As I said in the OP post in that comment chain, I do not like jews. Their, what in my opinion are, emergent behaviors are incredibly destructive to nations and out-groups in general. Israel is also a terror state.

I want a high iq Jewish bf so bad

>>16770566
Shut up faggot

>>16770661
>faggot
why the homophobia?

This board taught me that zoomers don't find out about Jewish genius unless they scour 4chan kek. I'm old, and when I was young, it was just a fact of life that everyone knew. Zoomers are protected from many an inconvenient truth.

>>16770684
You brought it on yourself

>>16770726
>I'm old, and when I was young, it was just a fact of life that everyone knew
Of course it was, you people were stupid and never questioned your programming

>>16772333
A zoomzoom, addicted to social media and glued to his app's algorithms inundating him to with brainrot, accusing his elders of being "programmed". Chefs kiss.

>>16772499
those elders that were glued to tv instead?

Even assuming Jewish IQ estimates are correct it still wouldn't explain their overrepresentation due to population sizes. I ran the numbers on this once and it turned out there should be a slightly larger absolute number of black geniuses in the USA than Jewish ones, and obviously way more East Asian.

>>16772555
if you think TV with interspersed ads is in any way comparable to curated content algorithmically designed to maximize your screen time, you're an idiot.

>>16772921
>black geniuses in the USA than Jewish ones
kek no

>>16762760
Sorry to break it to you but most christians historically hated the jews. It's only republican zog cattle that worships Israel

>>16773225
Huh that almost perfectly reproduces the rates or wealthy people in the community

>>16773242
Sorry to break it to you but Christians protected Jewish while wiping out the European religions

>>16755481
The Jewish-Black IQ gap refers to the reported difference in average intelligence quotient scores between Jewish and Black populations. Here's a breakdown 1:

- *Average IQ Scores:*
- *Ashkenazi Jews*: 107-115, attributed to a mix of cultural, historical, and genetic factors, with a strong emphasis on education and intellectual achievement.
- *African Americans*: around 85, significantly influenced by socioeconomic factors such as access to quality education, nutrition, and health.
- *Sub-Saharan Africans*: some studies report average IQ scores around 70, though this is highly sensitive to regional challenges and environmental factors.

*Factors Contributing to the Gap:*

- *Environmental Influences:*
- Socioeconomic status: Access to quality education, nutrition, and healthcare can significantly impact cognitive development.
- Educational opportunities: Targeted educational programs and initiatives can help narrow the gap.
- Cultural emphasis on intellectual pursuits: Communities valuing education may encourage better cognitive performance.
- *Genetic Considerations:*
- Research suggests genetics play a role in individual differences in IQ, but attributing group differences solely to genetics is debated.
- Studies on heritability show significant within-group variability, indicating environmental factors also play a crucial role.

*Interpretation and Controversies:*

- The topic is contentious due to historical misuse of IQ data and potential test biases.
- Researchers emphasize the importance of environmental factors in shaping cognitive performance and IQ scores.
- Ongoing efforts focus on refining assessment methods and addressing cultural and socioeconomic biases 1.

>>16774112
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsions_and_exoduses_of_Jews

One roman emperor is surely idicative of all Christendom

>>16774209
Who let all the Jews back in 109 times?

Even if there is a 7-15 (I've never seen a reliable study that suggests 15) IQ point difference between the average caucasian and the average ashkenazi, jews are still incredibly over represented in many facets of the elite. The answer is blatantly nepotism, and anybody who has been around jews can attest this to be the case. I am quarter jewish and the stuff the jewish side of my family does and brags about would surprise some antisemites I think

>>16775980
>Even if ... , jews are still incredibly over represented
*If* you entertain their most extreme claims, then the numbers do work out in their favor.
>overall population IQ gaussian [math]\mathcal(\mu=100,\sigma=15)[/math]
>jew population IQ gaussian [math]\mathcal(\mu=115,\sigma=15)[/math]
>jews 0.02 times as numerous as overall population
Then jews with IQ above a given ‘x’ should be [math]0.2 \times {1-\Phi((x-115)/15) \over 1-Phi((x-100)/15)}[/math] as a proportion of the general population with IQ above ‘x’. At x=145 this is over 30%, at 160 its over 80%.

But, of course no serious person believes the ridiculous [math]\mathcal N(115,15)[/math]

>>16775980
>Even if … , jews are still incredibly over represented
*If* you entertain their most extreme claims, then the numbers do work out in their favor.
>overall population IQ gaussian [math]\mathcal(\mu=100,\sigma=15)[/math]
>jew population IQ gaussian [math]\mathcal(\mu=115,\sigma=15)[/math]
>jews 0.02 times as numerous as overall population
Then jews with IQ above a given ‘x’ should be [math]0.2 \times {1-\Phi((x-115)/15) \over 1-\Phi((x-100)/15)}[/math] as a proportion of the general population with IQ above ‘x’. At x=145 this is over 30%, at 160 its over 80%.

But, of course no serious person believes the ridiculous [math]\mathcal N(115,15)[/math]

>>16775980
>Even if … , jews are still incredibly over represented
*If* you entertain their most extreme claims, then the numbers do work out in their favor.
>overall population IQ gaussian [math]\mathcal N(\mu=100,\sigma=15)[/math]
>jew population IQ gaussian [math]\mathcal N(\mu=115,\sigma=15)[/math]
>jews 0.02 times as numerous as overall population
Then jews with IQ above a given ‘x’ should be [math]0.2 \times {1-\Phi((x-115)/15) \over 1-\Phi((x-100)/15)}[/math] as a proportion of the general population with IQ above ‘x’. At x=145 this is over 30%, at 160 its over 80%.

But, of course no serious person believes the ridiculous [math]\mathcal N(115,15)[/math].

Jews are the closest thing to an irl race of wizards lul

>>16776244
Even with 108 the numbers like up. Simply put x = 135 (avg IQ for physics prof).

>>16755443 (OP)
>nobel prizes

so by that logic considering all the inventions and discoveries the greeks did their iq should be at around 9000(over 9000 is considered a bit too much)

right?

>>16776244
ashkenazi jews are not 2% of the population
if wikipedia is accurate then they are .14% of the population (11.2mil/~8billion)

>>16777730
oh shit you were saying .2%
still I ran the numbers and if europeans(ie white) are 900million then there should still be more over 145

>>16767697
gotta give it to them
social cohension and ingroup bias is a much better strategy than exploiting your neighbors, rugged individulaism, and suicidal empathy

>>16776244
The equation you wrote says 0.2 for 20% jews, but then the numbers you give must be using 0.02 for 2% jews. I guess this is accurate for america.
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>>16777731
It probably is best to confine attention to america since jews are not in any direct competition with 60iqs in somalia for e.g.