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Anonymous No.16764753 >>16764769 >>16764797 >>16764853 >>16765173 >>16765336 >>16767470 >>16767752 >>16767872
I'm an old lazy neet with basic knowledge on Java, databases, etc (a 2 years official course but still it's basic), what's the best way to keep learning to code given I'm idle and sloven?
Are games good?
Anonymous No.16764769 >>16764776
>>16764753 (OP)
why do you want to learn to cope?
Anonymous No.16764776 >>16764793
>>16764769
I think nowadays if one wants to get closer to the divinity it's not enough to know how to read and write but to code too
Anonymous No.16764793 >>16764803
>>16764776
You sound like an early millennial, maybe you had some friends who were born in the late 70s, but not you, you were most likely born in the early 80s.
Anonymous No.16764797 >>16764803 >>16765336
>>16764753 (OP)
Just find posts on UpWork asking for realistic help and solve them with AI's help. You can try applying to the actual UpWork jobs but don't expect any replies unless your payrate is at least 20% less than the competition.
Anonymous No.16764803 >>16764809
>>16764793
>you were most likely born in the early 80s.
Nope
>>16764797
Thanks, I did a few of CodeWars exercises and was applying for jobs normally through a few webs/apps
Anonymous No.16764809 >>16764819
>>16764803
>old lazy neet
No one who wasn't born in the early 80s would describe himself as that
Anonymous No.16764819 >>16764822
>>16764809
Well, I'm no longer young and I'm, in fact, lazy, so it makes sense
Anonymous No.16764822 >>16764826
>>16764819
neet puts the cherry on your cake.
Anonymous No.16764826 >>16764827
>>16764822
I am a neet, indeed
Anonymous No.16764827 >>16764838
>>16764826
Which dates you post 70s and old dates you to the back of the 80s unless you're calling yourself old for sympathy points in which case it's a lie.
Anonymous No.16764838 >>16764842
>>16764827
I'm on my 30s, that's not young, I'm afraid
Anonymous No.16764842 >>16764848
>>16764838
In your 30s you should be getting a wife if you don't have one and then hanging out with retired 60-80 year olds who will tell you what they wished they would have done in their 30s instead of what they did.
Anonymous No.16764848 >>16764851
>>16764842
>you should be getting a wife
stupid advice in today's clown world.
Anonymous No.16764851 >>16764857
>>16764848
What's the disadvantage to having a wife?
bodhi No.16764853 >>16764863
>>16764753 (OP)
just practice. buy an old java textbook and just read and understand it. Logic is always the same, the only thing that really changes is syntax. I know like 20 languages and can learn a new one within a couple hours
Anonymous No.16764857 >>16764859
>>16764851
95% of modern women are shit and you be suffering extensive damage to every part of your persona when reality sets in.
Anonymous No.16764859
>>16764857
95% of anything it shit if you smell it. Having a wife is a natural immunity to almost everything else.
Anonymous No.16764863 >>16764867 >>16767707
>>16764853
So I shouldn't worry myself about learning languages?
bodhi No.16764867 >>16764869
>>16764863
I once started a job using cold fusion and had never seen a line of cold fusion in my life and knew nothing about the architecture. Same with PHP and I was closing tickets before lunch that same day.
Anonymous No.16764869 >>16764871
>>16764867
>cold fusion
Added to my filter, thanks
bodhi No.16764871 >>16764876
>>16764869
I wonder if anyone even uses it anymore. This was like 25 years ago
Anonymous No.16764876 >>16764938
>>16764871
>I started a job 25 years ago selling something I didn't know anything about and was closing tickets the same day.
That's normal.
bodhi No.16764938 >>16765033
>>16764876
>selling
wtf are you on about?
Anonymous No.16765033 >>16765071
>>16764938
>I once started a job
bodhi No.16765071 >>16765073
>>16765033
I wasnt selling anything. I mean are you legit fucking retarded? WTF does selling anything have to do with coding? Do you even understand what "closing a ticket" means?
Anonymous No.16765073 >>16765078 >>16765080 >>16765713
>>16765071
>closing a ticket
means you sold something
bodhi No.16765078 >>16765107
>>16765073
No, it does not. That is called "closing a deal" or "closing a sale." When you work in IT you get support (or new projects ot updates / additions to current software) tickets numb nuts, generally on a ticketing app like JIRA. Coders go into JIRA to find out wtf they needs to be fixed and they fix it, then they close that ticket and move on to the next one. It generally then needs to be tested if they have separate testers. but often places dont. When the ticket is closed the system admin updates the code from the development server (where it is worked on so it doesnt disturb production) to the production server.
Anonymous No.16765080 >>16765107 >>16765127
>>16765073
You can't close a ticket in IT without selling the person who opened it the idea that they should close it.
Anonymous No.16765107
>>16765078
>>16765080
Anonymous No.16765127 >>16765182
>>16765080
>that entire interaction culminating in this post
Kek!
Anonymous No.16765173 >>16765182
>>16764753 (OP)
Google Nagoor Babu
Anonymous No.16765182
>>16765127
I worked at CIT for a couple semesters, it used to be all about making the faculty happy.
>>16765173
No, I won't.
Anonymous No.16765336 >>16767452
>>16764753 (OP)
best way to keep learning, get a job, or do a project.
leetcode, codewars, w3schools,... these are good when starting out. games fall in that category too. good to get children that are motivated on path of programming.
but at some point you need hard skills.

if you can afford it, get a junior position or apprenticeship. that'll get you exposed to some standards. better the company, better the standards usually, but you have to start somewhere, and you just said idle and sloven.
otherwise, if you just aren't landing anything that you can afford, do a project.
design a piece of software that helps you choose your pizza. design a basic text editing software. pong. start basic and go from there.
most start with games, since the love for games is a good drive, so probably good to start there.

alternatively, something like upwork like this anon suggests >>16764797 may work to start doing things.
start basic, start slow. it'll help you land a junior position few years down the line.
if it helps, turn the actual work you're doing into a game for yourself (track xp, design levels, i don't know, whatever works with adhd)
i'd suggest you stay away from ai until you know what you're doing, as that will really fuck you up, and you will never progress past basic shit. but again, you said idle and sloven.
so, with that, go full ai. again, start basic, get a prototype together, and work really hard to fix. expect to do a lot of learning and debugging.

a question you should answer yourself is why you want to code.
programming is the trades job of the future, where unskilled labor will end up in. do you want a well-paying job? become a plumber, electrician,... that should be safe for a few years.
do you have a project you want to make? cool. don't expect money from it though. you could get extremely lucky, but market is saturated, so you need really good marketing, but you said idle and sloven, so i'm guessing you won't be pulling that.

that's a cool game, by the way.
Anonymous No.16765713 >>16765894
>>16765073
are you pajeet sir?
Anonymous No.16765894 >>16767536
>>16765713
In English, closing a ticket means you sold something
Anonymous No.16767452 >>16767862
>>16765336
What's the closest to be a stay-at-home worker which won't get fuck by AI then? I want to skip working with my body and dealing with people as possible, wouldn't be an AI focused programmer work?
Anonymous No.16767470
>>16764753 (OP)
>learn to code
games? i doubt it. best to find some task you are familiar with that is automatable. break it down into steps, its component parts. maybe write a doc with that. use that doc to make a skeleton set of classes and methods or functions that do the stuff in your doc. fill in the blanks. when you're done doing that and it works, automate the process of doing the automation.
Anonymous No.16767536 >>16767560
>>16765894
Hallllloooo saaaaarrrrr
Anonymous No.16767560 >>16767573
>>16767536
We don't want you here.
Anonymous No.16767573 >>16767600
>>16767560
I was making a joke that the anon I was replying to is an indian.
Anonymous No.16767600
>>16767573
Leave.
Anonymous No.16767707
>>16764863
Learn scripting AI prompts or whatever is the current buzz. There's always something like that at any given time. Time machine: data science, React, Ruby on Rails, NoSQL, Scrum, OOP, XP, RAD, 3rd gen langs, Assembler, micro-ops
Anonymous No.16767752
>>16764753 (OP)
just learn how to use chatgpt for coding
Anonymous No.16767862
>>16767452
i mean, if you're that far gone, then here are your options:
neet
drug dealer
beggar
scammer

whatever you think you can achieve as an ai user, shit, you will have billions of people doing the same. the number of governments making deals with various ai companies is ridiculous. you have a few years max to make any money with ai. there are already games out that use ai to run, as in, the game is basically prompts.

you can be a streamer, you can be a camwhore, whatever you want, but any easy money market is insanely saturated, and you either get extremely lucky, or end up worse than an average onlyfans whore that makes less than $100/month.

the shit that you're trying to do already has a name - vibe coding, there are books out on this topic.

you may be producing things, sure, but you will be a consumer. you're basically asking how to make money with arts and crafts. i mean, there are monkey that sold their art for millions, sure, but your stick figures won't be as good as toilet paper.

i mean, you could ask it how to make a fortune on the stock market, maybe that'll work. but you'll have to pull your finger out of your ass if you want to do some work.
or dropshipping

or you could do what others have done. get your hands on basically premade ai, train it on nieche data and set it loose as a specalised product.

won't be as good as the non-specialized product, as that's how shit tends to work, as it turns out, but it's all about the marketing anyway.

but we're really in /biz/ area here.
Anonymous No.16767872
>>16764753 (OP)
>Are games good?