Thread 16768701

Flight X was a success - edition

previous >>16764680

hey hey

Trips and SpaceX makes it to Mars before the year 3000

SPEEEEEEEEEEHS!

>>16768740
they shoulda launched two shuttles at the same time and had them race to orbit

Some ESA proposed missions entering the arena.

>>16768746
Don't wanna close my eyes
I don't wanna fall asleep
'Cause I'd miss you, babe
And I don't wanna miss a thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujMxXOHJloI

>>16768704
Even Elmo is a doomer about V3, it's so over.

>>16768746
kino

>>16768763
Looking at this pic makes me feel like my brain doesn't fully understand large scale 3d geometric perspectives

>>16768762
I don't think so, its just that they are going to manufacture V3s for only about 1-1.5 years and if they don't get orbital refilling working quick enough then this mars transfer window passes and when the next one comes around, they are onto v4 (or v5 maybe)

>>16768763
>YWN see a crew dragon shuttle rescue mission
y even liv?

>>16768704
>already admitting they won't get the refueling mastered by the November 2026 window.
When did he become such a fucking doomer. All that is left to do now is land the ship on the chopsticks (already proven to be easy as shit) and they can start the refueling tests right away. I can't comprehend why we wouldn't see starships docked together by Q2

>>16768785
The learning curve starts again with V3. watch for explosions.

>>16768701 (OP)
Why don't we just dig a tunnel to Mars if space is hard?

>>16768762
>>16768772
V3 is the production vehicle with R3s
V4 is the same overall vehicle but stretched, and ship having more engines and booster trust increasing over time.

>>16768797
I unironically doubt anything significant will happen to V3 starship. Raptor 3 solves a lot of the leaking problems and a solution to the nosecone issue was found

>>16768760
>I really advise you shut the fuck up before I get mad.
I'm shaking like a leaf.

Gravity would have been one of the all time greatest films if the bitch had died at the end sinking in the lake due to GRAVITY. I rewatched the ending recently. Such a catastrophic waste of poetic irony for the cheap 'le good guys win'.

>>16768701 (OP)
Hello guys I was busy these days and missed the flight.

How was it?

>>16768803
Exploded

>>16768803
Good. We won't see a ship landing until at least IFT12 though because V3 isn't ready for flight yet :/

>>16768803
I am European and I nearly felt asleep while the launch stream because Felon Husk were stealing my sleep in the previous days and I had to watch it so late. I am European btw

>>16768803
the booster and ship both exploded

>>16768809
Felon Huskrat must be stopped! He is draining our sleep with scrubs and now our balls with Ani

>>16768701 (OP)
looks so kino

v4 will fix everything

>>16768815
You said that with v3 before!

>>16768823
Do you think Everyday Astronaut is having this facial expression because he don't want to be associated with them in the picture?

>>16768815
>v4 will fix everything

>>16768802
the real tragedy was the billions of destroyed space hardware, and eventual economic collapse

>>16768823
>No bra
What a stem-whore

>>16768802
normies don't like "bad" endings

https://x.com/LabPadre/status/1961074014035538340
>Army Corps of Engineers have released the proposed plans for launch site expansion. Notably an LNG liquification plant is in the works, as well as changing Pad A mount into the new type with a flame trench.

SpaceX originally wanted something this large, but dropped many parts of the plan due to the risk of not getting a launch license at all if the enviromental assessment went sideways
and people still insist EPA/bureucrats didn't slow anything down

>>16768844
not digging a trench was probably also partly due to enviromental assessment shi

>simply not exploding and scattering debris across the planet is a "success" now
>this is supposed to be ready for manned flights in a year
the goalposts have been teleported to the next galaxy at this point

>>16768826
It's because his twin brother is there too.

>>16768829
Science says that bras are bad for breasts.

>>16768853
what would have been a successful test flight for you then?

>>16768829
there’s no underwear in space

>>16768826
He's probably wondering why there is another one of him.

>>16768844
>5 more years of construction works
lol, gotta keep Mexicans busy

>>16768853
this is a bait post
>>16768859
that was a bait post

>>16768823
LMAOOOO

>>16768844
>LCH4 generation
With a sabatier reactor? Is that really worth it?

>>16768829
That's gotta be Tims GF right? Why else would she find herself in this repulsive crowd?

>>16768844
Thanks for the info LabPadre. Very useful not to link it.

>>16768859
A catch
>>16768863
Cope

>>16768866
Maybe they will get Casey to do it.
https://cleanenergyreview.io/p/terraform-industries

>>16768844
https://www.swg.usace.army.mil/Portals/26/docs/regulatory/PN%20August/SWG-2012-00381_20250819_PN%20Figures.pdf

>>16768871
As far as I can tell his machine is not ready, no field deployments yet.
And supposedly Tom Mueller was working on that.

>>16768866
no, its just purifying liquified natural gas

>>16768829
you just know she gets passed around like crazy

>>16768871
I doubt it. Terraform is all about being power intensive and cheap in capital, scaling up output with available solar power. SpaceX doesn't care if the plant is costly if it enables good continuous output for the footprint.

did we ever get an explanation for the aft end of starship fucking exploding?

>>16768870
retard

>>16768873
lol

>>16768876
Yeah it's probably this. Does the document say something about a LNG pipeline then?

>>16768882
no

>>16768881
Whoops.

>>16768879
The only plausible one I've heard is one of the dummy sats hit it lol
Theres really nothing there that should be able to explode so some sort of impact is the only explanation that makes sense.

>>16768881
Did you read the whole thing? If it was posted, then it means they got the approval.

>>16768888
It's the raptor chill lines
TSE is a retard, just because he can't imagine how they would explode doesn't mean they didn't

>>16768879
hullo thinks there’s an oxygen vent line there that may have been what exploded

>>16768704
>150m tall
-_-

Unfortunately it doesn't work that way.
Vn will be sub-SLS tier.

>>16768889
its over

>>16768844
It's smart to build as much as possible when Trump still in power.

>>16768890
Theres no raptor chill line there.

>>16768904
There is in my head.

>>16768904
Yes there is a vent line there of the raptor chill system faggot

>V2 redeemed (before V3 experiences the same shit)
>Starlink hits 7m
>30th reuse of a booster
Pretty good week for SpaceX.

>>16768844
Yeah they had to work around the limitations of environmental assessment. Now that they're progressing, hopefully they'll bring more localization of the fueling process.

>>16768907
There clearly is not

>>16768844
>>16768873
>>16768881
SpaceX hasnt released them, so this is likely poor IT on Army's part.

>>16768888
Those dummies have no propulsion and they were drifting away slowly relatively to the ship how would they cause an impact with so much energy?

when exoplanets are discovered in a system and named b.c.d.e etc, what happens if more planets are discoveered closer to the star than the b planet? do all of the already catalogued planets get renamed?

>>16768918
I think the order is based on discovery, not distance, so you might end up with
>star
>planet A
>planet B
>planet E
>planet C
if E were discovered later due to being tiny or whatever

>>16768844
Justice for the fauna and animals of Boca Chica!

>>16768704
So we're looking at the 2028 window.

>>16768748
>>16768749
>leo shit
Who cares.

>>16768823
Name.

Now.

>>16768918
They are named in order of discovery. I think they are only renamed if one's exietence is refuted.

>>16768908
30th reuse of a singular booster and 400th reuse overall

Anyone else read this? I just finished it and loved it, looking forward to the movie starting Ryan "Literally me" Gosling.

>>16768944
no because it's an inaccurate depiction of first contact. Star trek did it right decades ago

remor has it that elon intentionally sabotaged the past few flight tests so that flight "X" would be the memorable one

>>16768844
this is a pretty big deal, to finally fit out this site for volume launching, provided reusability happens.
The LNG liquefaction/purification implies a natural gas pipeline will be extended to the site as well, I guess that permission happened too
Pretty good news, and interesting they had to rotate the flame trench for pad 1, but at least they can reuse the tower, probably with chopped chopsticks and a full refit up to spec and improved with early lessons learned when pad 2 starts launching V3s
They neglected to picture the ASU on the map, but hopefully 100% of the oxygen and nitrogen is made there too, so the trucks can be largely gone (no Tesla semis with self driving, because fuck truck drivers, this is an even bigger kick in the balls to them)

>>16768949
of course shitlon blumpsk would sabotage his entire program just to own the heckin liberals with his epic letter X obsession

>>16768948
Shoot all xenos, take their shit

>>16768964
shitlib comics are so out of touch it's unreal

>>16768964
>implying mars will have a return trip option

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/investigations/article/elon-musk-flood-tunnels-boring-wesley-hunt-20372260.php

he can't keep getting away with it (saving tax payers money)

>>16768964
honestly most of these problems can be solved with remigration. if you get rid of the millions of immigrants in europe trains will be less crowded, healthcare lines will be shorter, crime will plummet.

unfortunately energy will never be solved because europoor governments are retarded

whyis there such a fuss about 3i atlas being big or whatever? is t not just common sense that planet sized objects can form in interstellar space or be ejected into it?

>>16768970
germans are so retarded

>>16768975
sure but the odds of one coming this close to our solar system are very low, because, yknow, space big

I don't think it's an alien space probe or whatever because that makes zero sense even from the ufo angle.
It's entirely inconsistent with what people commonly report. why would a civilization capable of making craft that can do 5000G accelerations make something so abysmally slow that looks and acts exactly like a large comet? Why send it our way when they are (presumably) already here?

https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/08/with-recent-falcon-9-milestones-spacex-vindicates-its-dumb-approach-to-reuse/
>Many people in the industry were skeptical about SpaceX's approach to reuse. In the mid-2010s, both the European and Japanese space agencies were looking to develop their next generation of rockets. In both cases, Europe with the Ariane 6 and Japan with the H3, the space agencies opted for traditional, expendable rockets instead of pushing toward reuse.

>>16768983
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1961080762217664604

>In the United States, the main competitor to SpaceX has historically been United Launch Alliance. Their reaction to SpaceX's plan to reuse first stages a decade ago was dismissive. The company's engineers wrote papers and performed studies that argued SpaceX's plans were impractical.

>>16768984
To be fair they all assumed the entire market had converged to GEO where SpaceX's staging early strategy doesn't work

It turns out making LEO cheap makes constellations vastly more useful and cheap than massive GEO sats

>>16768948
>innacurate depiction of a thing that has never happened

>>16768984
What the fuck is that graph supposed to be showing? How in the flying fuck is a high reused to expended ratio supposed to increase costs? It makes no sense.

>>16768970
will germans ever go back to being based like they were in the 30s and 40s?

>>16768984
Say what you want about the graph but it's pretty much accurate. SpaceX gamed the graph by having an insane cadence. Before they entered this phase I'm certain reuse was costing them more than it was worth. Most of the cost of the launch is infrastructure and staff rather than the manufacture of the rocket. Unless you are slinging up a rocket ever 2 days like SpaceX now does then the manufacture cost is a small fraction of that.

>>16768949
God I love deranged esl posts

>>16768989
A reused rocket of equivalent capability is more expensive to build than an expended rocket. The cost recovery isn't just the cost of building the rocket divided by the number of times it launches, but all the other associated expenses incurred as well. The basic logic of the chart is sound but all the data points ULA chose are dubious at best. What ULA did have to make it make sense to them was Starlink.

>>16768989
Flyback comes with a massive payload penalty. On Falcon they lose about a third of their potential per flight by booster reuse. The infrastructure cost of recovering an entire booster rather than just engines is also greater.

>>16768992
ULA is not dominated by launch operations costs, but by maintaining a staff that builds rockets. If they reuse rockets they either have to retain that staff that does nothing, or they have to make do with fewer people.

>>16768987
think about it this way
>earth 4 gorillion years old
>universe 14 Ga (we think)
>earth has had visible biosignatures for at least 2.5 billion years
>probability that alien civilizations are younger than us is significantly less than the probability they are older because of how recent human civilization emerged
+ age of the universe
>mean time between civilizations emerging should be large due to technological intelligence being rare

Any aliens out there should be WAY older than us and they have had literally millions or even billions of years to discover earth with vastly more advanced technology at a even more vast scale. forget james webb, they could automate and build tens of thousands of huge planet finder telescopes, all linked together and coordinated, sending data to a super advanced machine learning algo which could easily discover any traces of life on any planet around any star visible to them.

The most likely situation is they are already here and simply haven't initiated open contact for whatever reason. most likely because they have nothing to gain from contact.

>>16769001
The first two generations of stars (population III and population II) are not thought to have enough chemical diversity to create emergent properties like life. Population I stars, like our sun, should have sufficient metallicity (astronomically, everything that isn't hydrogen or helium) to support chemically interesting phenomena like life. If that's correct, life can't be very old, cosmically speaking.

>>16769001
hear me out: big mike is right, and the reason we see no ayys communicating over the electromagnetic spectrum is because they communicate over the quantum vacuum. He claims quantised inertia can have instantaneous effects across space, so if thats the case you would have to be a retard to use muh radio.

>>16768990
Maybe if they would kill government officials

>>16769004
I'll hear you out if anything about QI actually works. "Just one more experiment bro" doesn't cut it.

>>16769003
we could be the first.
Maybe a reason we see zero galaxies with signs of intelligent engineering is because they are all too far in the past. Maybe now some of them already have galactic overlords.

>>16769001
earth spent 1 billion years only having microorganisms. odds are aliens are no more complex than fungi.

>>16769001
They explained that in the book anon

>>16769013
your dad is no more complex than my sex toy.

>>16769011
>>16769003
james webb observations are killing this whole theory btw. they are finding very mature galaxies and very mature stars way earlier than predicted. More than likely our entire model of the early universe will need to be rewritten.

>>16769004
interesting to think about. They totally use telepathy though. everyone reports that.

>>16769013
earth is 4.6 billion years old. the universe is 14 billion, probably older. very unlikely that there aren't other intelligent civilizations out there and that's only accounting for natural evolution. Once one civilization emerges they have the ability to artificially seed intelligence which makes it very difficult to actually determine just how many civilizations actually exist with traditional estimation techniques like the drake eq

>>16769021
>james webb observations are killing this whole theory btw. they are finding very mature galaxies and very mature stars way earlier than predicted. More than likely our entire model of the early universe will need to be rewritten.

I'm aware of/understood mature galaxies to be fully formed and dynamically stable. What's this about the stars themselves?

>>16769021
You aren't looking for intelligence or civilization, but an intelligence and civilization that seeks to advance in technology and grow in scale.

>>16768999
>ULA is not dominated by launch operations costs, but by maintaining a staff that builds rockets

SpaceX likely builds more first stages than ULA despite reuse due to the sheer volume of launches they do, and each of those launches needs a new second stage anyway.

>>16769025
should be the default, you dont get technology without curiosity and curiosity doesn't just shut off once you get fancy technology

>>16769024
Sorry I misremembered. They found very early galaxies with higher than expected metallicity.

>>16769028
The commonality between the Falcon 9's first and second stages is an enormous boon to maintaining technical expertise and competence with manufacturing new rockets and stages. That's one of the biggest things that the rest of the industry got wrong.

just watch Contact if you want to know how a more advanced civilization will get to talk to us

>>16768975
I guess midwits just want ayyliums to be real so that they won't feel so bad about watching all those Marvel capeshit movies, or maybe they feel like it will prove that they're the main character

>>16769029
>should be the default, you dont get technology without curiosity and curiosity doesn't just shut off once you get fancy technology
You do get intelligence and some form of civilization with neither curiosity or technology. Case in point: Africa.

>>16768970
Nuclear? We don't do that in Germany.
Spaceflight? We don't do that in Germany.

>>16769034
sure but that is one component of the human species and ultimately the component with curiosity and technology won out and dominated. this will tend to be the norm in general. The expansionists will always win against non expansionists because non expansionists don't expand. at some point the non expansionists either die out or are completely out numbered. This will be the case for us as well once we start colonizing other planets. 1000 years from now we will have luxury pleasure domes on mars and the africans will still be in mudhuts

>>16768981
>he is not ayypilled on different aliens with different tech levels

>>16769039
maybe if you throw artificially induced intelligence into the mix you can have civilizations that are somewhat close in technology levels but that would also imply there are a TON of civilizations out there. It's not really as plausible as them being significantly more advanced IMHO.

>>16769038
Population curves aren't backing up this assertion.

>>16769043
thats a great filter
whether or not we say no to the endless hordes of sub 80 iq migrants and colonize the stars or submit and let them ruin any chance we have at getting off this rock.

GET THE FUCK IN HERE!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_PeCyRjfGI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_PeCyRjfGI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_PeCyRjfGI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_PeCyRjfGI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_PeCyRjfGI

Mars belongs to humans. Don't let miserable leftists tell you otherwise.

$RKLB to the moon!

>>16769064
Wen Venus

>>16768968
Houston is such a shithole, it needs to be nuked
t. live here

>>16768944
Oh fuck. I loved Martian, didn't get far into Artemis. 15 minutes in now and in full attention. Thanks!

>>16769054
I just blew liquid diarrhea shit out my asshole

>>16769056
dusty rover

>>16768983
>the usual ArseTechnica EDS/TDS comment posters
wew

>>16769070
Future missions will use human-derived methane for propulsion