Thread 16772590

Explain without sounding mad.

>>16772590 (OP)
think about it
or, maybe, just google it, retard

>>16772590 (OP)
Not sure how this worked in other countries but in the US hospitals got welfare checks for reporting covid cases. I'd bet any amount of money that if the welfare checks were twice as large for reporting flu cases, the reporting would be inverted. That's just how systems work.

it is commonly asserted this is because people stayed indoors. however, the covid infection rate contradicts this, as people stayed indoors and caught covid. this is usually justified by asserting the reproduction rate of covid was significantly higher than influenza. this is now contradicted by modern data where both influenza and covid are tracked.

the only conclusion to draw is that influenza infections were incorrectly flagged as covid infections. this is a testable hypothesis i just wrote, btw. influenza has an average infection number we can expect to see in those gap years. we can subtract this average from the covid data, and see whether this new covid data is smoother than the new covid data. i say this without having seen the data let alone analyzing it.

would someone who is familiar with this data if it has been done, or someone who has the raw data and would like to do this simple calculation be willing to test my hypothesis per the scientific method on /sci/? can't hurt to check, right? surely the cdc wouldn't do anything shady in regards to public perception on vaccines regarding covid

>>16772633
would the cdc ever manipulate statistics to paint a certain narrative? never... surely they wouldn't.

>>16772590 (OP)
OP is not 18+. OP is like 4, tops.

>>16772634
the cdc would never tell lies.

>>16772633
>would someone who is familiar with this data if it has been done, or someone who has the raw data and would like to do this simple calculation be willing to test my hypothesis per the scientific method on /sci/?
It wasn't significant. Sorry.

>>16772637
that was fast! care to share?

>>16772639
Very simple. You can easily repeat. Good luck with your science project.
I hope you win 1st Place!

>>16772639
>care to share?
Sure, p=0.89.

>>16772633
>>16772637
It looks significant to me (subtract 50k)

>>16772649
>It looks significant when i turn sideways and squint
Ngmi in the real real, but good enough for Internet science!

>>16772649
Looks like those vaxxes didn't do shit

>>16772590 (OP)
-social distancing
-hand washing
-masks

Aerosol vs Respiratory droplets

>>16772663
Lockdowns didn't do shit either. Never forget what they did to you

>>16772715
>after five years, i still don't understand what happened
And you never will.

>>16772719
I understand it more than you ever will, midwit.
>t. Actively participated in data analysis back when the WHO posted daily situation reports and predicted the impending pandemic
Kys

>>16772723
>t. jeet subcontractor, usaid contract
>born to datalyze, DoGEd to NEET
Kek.

>>16772723
>Actively participated in data analysis back when the WHO posted daily situation reports and predicted the impending pandemic
Interpretation: Sometime during the 2019-2020 pandemic period, when COVID-19 was novel and global public health agencies were crunching surveillance data, running models, and predicting trends to advise global policy making, I had a temp job doing manual entry stock counts at the overnight shift at a couple convenience stores my uncle owns.

>>16772808
It was winter break and I procrastinated my pre-semester prep by tabulating a month with of daily data into excel, fitting the data to an exponential, determining the reproduction rate all as a way to, in week 1, show my students an application of the exponential function. Told them if the WHO reports were off by even just a couple dozen on their (now known to be wrong) data of confirmed cases in the USA that we'd be fucked within a few months. I was right and my students started calling me Nostradamus. Highest reviews I've had since being a prof. You have no idea who you're dealing with.

>>16772822
kek but they were wrong in the wrong direction retard.

>>16772590 (OP)
What happened to the flu before 1890?

>>16772822
>You have no idea who you're dealing with.
We really do know what we're dealing with, Mr. School Science Teacher. Thank you for drinking the Kool-Aid in the curriculum we sent you.

>>16772848
Before 1890 it was "Vespers, Spirits, etc."

>>16772808
Nailed it.

>>16772590 (OP)
Well everyone stayed home and wore masks, so less flu spread around

>>16772633
>cdc_vaccine definition.png
I hate them

flu cases were added to coronavirus cases as a way of continuing the lockdowns and for rich people to steal money from citizens, and to destroy small businesses which would allow rich people to have even more control over the country

>>16772855
No, look at actual imfluenza death records, it completely changed. There was never an annual flu season before then, it was very infrequent hence the name associated with stars.

>>16773194
>a mystery in a riddle wrapped in a enigma
International travel

>>16773432
funny you mention that.
boats would dock intio port and find both they and the port ton had experienced outbreaks of flu at exactly the same time despite not being in contact

>>16773439
>despite not being in contact
Sailors in port, Anon. There is always contact with locals.

>>16773448
No, they would be like a weeks sailing away.
If the thread remains up I'll find the citation

>>16773451
Wow, incubation time and small pockets of disease (a couple prostitutes) eventually spreads to the larger community. No way could that ever happen. No way!

>>16773454
no, I want to check the citation but from what I remember they had no means of transmission between them they just experienced the same sickness at the same time

>>16773455
>OMGosh! Their masks didn't protect them.
Spontaneous generation. Look it up dimwit.

>>16772590 (OP)
social distancing works. just goes to show you how dangerous and deadly Covid was that we completely eradicated the flu for 2 years but Covid was still killion millions

>>16773457
so the flu came from nowhere simultaneously?

>>16773457
No, no, no! The drinking water "remembers" the flu virus and that's how it spreads.

It needs to be said but never has any experiment demonstrated human to human transmission of flu, despite some quite hardcore experiments.

>>16773464
No, I am making fun of the "no contact" moron.
If course the virus came from other infected people. They leave aerosols and dropplets containing the virus. People can come by 15-30 minutes later and become infected.
Mind blowing stuff for the smoothest of brains.

>>16773472
I need to check the citation but as I keep saying these people on board ship had no contact with the port prior to the disease and for like a week afterwards.

>>16773480
>No supplies were delivered to the ship's stores.
>Star Fleet verified all containment fields.
>it's jew magic!
Dude. Post your citation and stfu.

>>16773480
Anon, I have a thought experiment for you.
It is a known fact in the cruise industry that an Influenza A outbreak during a cruise will significantly increase the likelihood of an outbreak on the next cruise, even if none of the passengers or crew members are the same.
It is one of mankind's greatest mysteries as to why this happens. Some idiots on this board will tell you about little tiny demons that live in your spit and poop, but we all know that's madness.

>>16773497
You don't seem to understand that there was no opportinity not even an indirect one allowing transmission and are instead resorting to ridicule?

>>16773501
You do not understand the reality of commercial shipping in the 1890's.
Post your goddamn bullshit article or shut the fuck up, the moronic clown.

>>16773567
Tomorrow if the thread is still up I should be able to find the book it was in.

in the mean time how about you find some human to human flu transission studies.

>>16773583
>in the mean time how about you find some human to human flu transission studies.
Happy to, but wtf is your point? Your Hypothesis? Is it thst places can become "infected", because that it well-understood? Or am I missing something? How are you proposing that flu is transmitted?
Seriously, I got the entire week off and loads of grass and a new Chinese AI to play with. We should be able to do something, right?
Did we just become /sci/ frenemies? No homo.
Seriously, no homo, cause I can get a little gay in these threads.

>>16773601
I have no hypothesis all I know is that the narative around flu doesn't match the facts.

>>16773605
Goddamn, you are a fucking retard. What alternative facts do you feel you might misrecall from them non-published fever dream you once had.
I am willing to play your game. But you must name it. I am not willing to waste good weed and tokens playing Sorry only to have you pull a bullshit "Ahaha, Anon. But we were playing Paschi all along!" rug pull.
Do you understand, faggot?

>>16773614
>Paschi
Parcheesi.
Goddammit. Pick your username, gheyboi. I'm playing you, not Anon.

>>16772590 (OP)
Within the epistemological basis of ontological reasoning epidemics and pandemics, you can conclude that the quantum tautology allows for heuristic oversights that go up yo ass

>>16773614
Just find the studies on human to human transmission of influenza like the Rosenau Experiment.
Come up with your own hypothesis from there.

>>16773658
Citation or stfu, cock sucking troll.

>>16772848
>What happened to the flu before 1890?
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2862332/

>>16773658
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>>16773194
Lazy-ass niggers.
https://scholar.google.com/scholar_lookup?journal=JAMA&title=Experiments%20to%20determine%20mode%20of%20spread%20of%20influenza&author=MJ%20Rosenau&volume=73&publication_year=1919&pages=311-3&

>>16772590 (OP)
glow niggers stopped spreading the flu and switched to exclusively covid.

>>16773171
how does this work? do they send a memo to the doctors or does it happen at a higher level?

>>16772590 (OP)
>What happened to the flu from 2020 to 2022?

The two hypothesis I quite like are:
-People haven't actually been washing their hands like they should. Not only in terms of frequency, but literally how to do it correctly.
-Covid-19 may have simply outcompeted other influenza viruses for land/food/resource. Granted, I'm not confident that viruses actually do that? I encourage somebody to correct me.

That enormous fucking spike the following years after the pandemic is insane though. That's wild, I hadn't heard about that at all. What the fuck.

>>16772610
Are you genuinely retarded?

>>16774176
No, I'm not your father.

>>16774165
>That enormous fucking spike the following years after the pandemic is insane though. That's wild, I hadn't heard about that at all. What the fuck.
The vax works chud
no refunds

>>16773671
My plea is earnest, why are you so hostile to research on human to human transmission of flu?

>>16774412
>why are you so hostile to research on human to human transmission of flu?
I am not. You are the one unwilling to back up your claims. Citation, username, or stfu.

>>16774165
>that enormous fucking spike the following years after the pandemic is insane though
Aquired herd immunity wanes without constant refreshing either through infection or vaccination. Simple really when you spend more than a few seconds thinking about it.

>>16774165
The zero flu cases is a demonstration the government lied. The spike after shows people died.