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Anonymous No.16775994 >>16776000 >>16776012 >>16776026 >>16776768 >>16776771 >>16780197 >>16780795
Why do psychedelics cause strange visions and thoughts?
Is there any meaning behind it?
Anonymous No.16776000
>>16775994 (OP)
>is there any meaning?
Yes.
>You have overloaded vital components in your brain. Please detox and try again later with a clear mind.
Anonymous No.16776012
>>16775994 (OP)
You know there is more than one kind of psychedelic and they all have different effects right..?
Anonymous No.16776026 >>16776037 >>16780009 >>16780795
>>16775994 (OP)
Im a neuropsychopharmacology midwit.
For the visions:
Since 5HT2A-agonists or partial agonists (e.g. 2C-B) kinda inhibit your visual processing, you're observing a more raw and uncalibrated version of (visual) input,where your brain is less able to see the set of all different things (note that observing someTHING already includes your brain's interpretation of raw visual data) and more likely to see the underlying "oneness", by which I mean nothing more than the bright spots of different colors in different shapes and sizes that raw visual data is (even colors are a human concept but that's beyond our scope here).
Now close your eyes and rub them firmly. You will begin to see, albeit less colorful and alive, the exact same forms and abstract geometric figures that you see on psychedelics.
So I suppose that the strange visions arise from inhibited visual processing that forces the brain into its "default visual mode" consisting, at least in humans, of those kinds of radially symmetric geometric forms.
As for the thoughts, I would say that it follows a similar mechanism of disruption of the usual homeostasis in the brain that results in different brain activity for the same input. It has been proven that acute psychedelic usage increases connectivity between brain areas that are normally less connected
Anonymous No.16776037 >>16778883
>>16776026
this is basically it

1. Brains ability to filter gets interrupted or modified
2. Information from the eyes that is typically filtered out is read as 'real' by the brain
3. Brain attempts to make sense of it
4. ????
5. Hallucinations

This image demonstrates what i mean, the pillars of faces are formed by natural imperfections of your visual system being read as real. The structure of the pillars are always present, your brain just filters them out like your optical blind spot.
Anonymous No.16776768
>>16775994 (OP)
Look up akashic records.
Anonymous No.16776771
>>16775994 (OP)
It's a definition. Substances that cause cause strange visions and thoughts are called psychedelics. That's it.
Anonymous No.16778883
>>16776037
That is an atomist answer, and therefore demonstrably wrong.
Anonymous No.16780009
>>16776026
>the exact same forms and abstract geometric figures
Lolno, have you ever taken psychedelics? People wouldn't be going ape over something so trivial.
Anonymous No.16780197
>>16775994 (OP)
Because it's a drug. It alters your brain. Now it may be fun or get you to think in different ways. But there is no real "wisdom" in it. Like one time I took MDMA and thought I uncovered the secrets to life. I was hype. I wrote it down and when sober it was random shit. But in the moment it appeared and felt profound. Trying to find meaning in psychedelics or being high is kind of a crapshoot. You may as well resort to horoscopes or trying to interpret your dreams. Have fun if you want to, and they are indeed fun, but understand their limits and don't mistake the sensation of mind blowing with it being a sincere and true revelation.
Anonymous No.16780261
Is there any perceptual difference between tripping on psychedelics and dreaming? I have plenty of dreams in which there is no "self", for example, which is reminiscent of the "ego death" that I hear from people who use those drugs.
Anonymous No.16780795
>>16775994 (OP)
1. radios
2. girls nobody likes using radios
3. not your thoughts
4. chemical imbalance
5. too happy
6. more associating different things or less
7. the girl using the radio said so
8. >>16776026 is an asshole
9. you already thought you saw that
10. seeing the shadow people can also happen when you are not on drugs
11. what you are hearing is from the radios
12. what you are seeing, half of it is from the radios and some of it is from your brain perceiving it differently because you are on drugs (this object looks very big, this light is now 2 colors)