Thread 16793708

Does this really give you autism?

>>16793708 (OP)
Don't listen to drumph, Tylenol is safe and effective and your fetus must be fully saturated with it

>>16793708 (OP)
RFK or whatever the fuck is is making bank from pushing pseudo science. Take your herbal supplement, not real medicine. Let your fellow americans die from illness while those in charge have doctors tend to them 24/7 on demand to keep them in power for just one more year.

They will have access to better medicine then you and you will like it. They will take Tylenol, while pregnant, because it does nothing to harm the baby. You however, you have to feel bad.

>>16793708 (OP)
>Does this really give you autism?

Assuming autism is even real, this all just comes like a massive cope. I guarantee you autism is caused by obesity, sleep apnea, bad water, or old eggs/sperm, or some combination thereof. In other words: dysgenic factors that literally nobody wants to take accountability for, no parent is going to say to themselves or others "you're right. It is my fault that my kid is retarded. I shouldn't have waited until my 40's to have a child/I should have lost weight." Nobody.

With that said I'm going to tell you the vast majority of autism diagnosis are fucking fake. I'm not denying obvious cases of retardation, I AM denying: child behaving eccentrically or in a way that makes parent/teacher work more = child is retarded.

>>16793708 (OP)
idk I havent seen the data

>>16793744

There’s a lot of issues that are causing women to have children later, such as affording to take care of a child, people pushing college on young people which further delays having children, and the propaganda from both feminism and Mano sphere that pits men and women against each other. Then they proceed to blame people who choose not to have any children at all, which leads to children growing up in poverty on food stamps and section 8 and not be as self sufficient. Yet they are focusing on autism… for some reason. That’s not even the main problem right now.

>>16793708 (OP)
The current US government and its president are undoubtedly among the most incompetent in the country. Frankly, I don't know you, Anon, but I don't wish you any harm, so I advise you to ignore everything that comes out of their mouths for at least another three years and to refer to serious international and non-governmental scientific institutions. As well as doctors (who do not support drump).

>>16793744
my sister has a kid with nonverbal autism.
she said that they think it might have something to do with oxygen supply while the fetus is in utero.
or when the baby is still in development.
perhpas this is the next evolution of "crib death". maybe we have more mothers that suffer from sleep apnea.
i think theres some epigenetic effects relating to psych meds and amphetamines.
like how a mother on heroin will gie birth to a baby that goes through withdrawls.
autism wasn't really a thing until after ww2.
and thats when pretty much every veteran was put on amphetamines. I think meth has epigenetic effects. along with psych meds.
if there is something that has to do with mercury, it got me thinking about how we extract mercury. what minerals tend to be found around mercury deposits?
there was something about a folate deficiency, and that swedish study about putting autists on a meat and veg non processed diet. folate i think comes from veg doesn't it?
otherwise i feel like it might have something to do with natural gas extraction honestly.
all the places that have oil, and coal i think have a higher occurance of autism.
also to note that theres legit autism and "autism" like.
i think the establishment knows what causes autism, but they don't want to say becuase what ever is causing is some high profit sector.

>>16793781
>all the places that have oil, and coal i think have a higher occurance of autism.
burn the coal, pay the toll

>>16793708 (OP)
The older the mother the higher the risk.
You know it, I know it, everybody knows it.

>>16793708 (OP)
miggers and thin foil schizos have a really hard time understanding that correlation is not causation

>>16793739
We all know the pharmaceutical industry has no interest in money, they operate solely on goodwill, compassion and a desire to improve the lives of everyone.

>>16793767
>Yet they are focusing on autism… for some reason. That’s not even the main problem right now.
Does the US government ever "officially" focus on the main problems or does it just go around dividing people with made up controversies?
>>16793781
>she said that they think it might have something to do with oxygen supply while the fetus is in utero.
That's just brain damage. If they falsely diagnose the kid with autism here, then it is possible that your hospital is trying to dodge damage claims and liability. Also retarded kids have always existed. Calling them "autistic" doesn't mean they suddenly appeared ouf of nowhere. But many people can be fooled with that kind of language game.

>>16793744
>old eggs/sperm
It's this + over diagnosis. Nowadays you can be diagnosed with autism just because you're quite and shy. Old eggs is like 10% of the problem, medicalisation of normal behaviour is 90%

No. What I'm more interested in knowing is how Trump and his cronies are making money off this?

Advil stock

>>16793935
NSAIDs are completely contraindicated in 1st and 3rd trimesters of pregnancy due to the risk of oligohydramnios and Potter sequence, which basically means no doctor will be comfortable with you taking it in any trimester since it's a fluid growth process
Nothing ever happens

Imagine trying to increase your chances of having an annoying normie child. Fuck that shit

If it does then other substances cause autism also.

Autism incidence has increased but Tylenol usage has remained consistent.

You can be called autistic simply for being an obsessive individual now. “Oh my god he loves math too much he’s autistic or something.”

Do you see the problem?

>he trusts in a brainworm bot
No.

>>16793977
Reported cases =/= incidence
Did magatards (not talking about you) forget about the covid when they claimed all the pandemic was a consequence of viral testings?

>>16793994

Shill

>>16793708 (OP)
nah, the thing to worry about is NAPQI

/pol/tard raid and spam threads are cancer and against >>>/global/rules/3 >>>/global/rules/4 >>>/global/rules/6 >>>/global/rules/10 and >>>/sci/rules/1
OP is a faggot.
Fulfill your civic duty to help purge this board of anarchistic, sociopathic, intellectually regressive youtube/reddit/twitter immigrant subhumans like him who are under the delusion that all of 4chan (instead of just the designated shitposting playpens like /b/, /trash/, /bant/, etc.) is a toilet by reporting this thread en masse.
Here's a link so you don't have to scroll up to the top of the page.
https://sys.4chan.org/sci/imgboard.php?mode=report&no=16793708

Supposedly Harvard and Johns Hopkins made some studies. I want to see the data. But I wouldn't be surprised, we've done shit like that before.

>>16794069
It's just standard us army disinfo protocol. I mean we know where this shit is coming from.

>>16794151
Yeah it's not like Pharmaceutical companies have ever put something on the market with dangerous side effects.

It's actually shocking how people defend pharma and their concoctions almost reflexively, not even considering that something may be wrong with it, and even if there was they are happy to ignore it to keep taking the stuff. Feminists are even complaining that this will make them feel 'guilty' that they harmed their children unintentionally (why feel guilt then?) and ignore warnings to avoid this fake guilt. It's really fascinating and deserving of study itself, it's too many people just to be pharma shilling. People didn't have a problem believing that some sunscreen could cause cancer and they switched products without much fuss at all, because sunscreen doesn't make them 'feel better'. Clearly you don't have to be a pillhead to be addicted to pharma products.

>>16794155
Sure so let's better waste time by not focusing on the actual side effects, instead babbling about phantom correlations and the specter of wamboism.

>>16794178
>wamboism
?

>>16793778
You are incapable of doing your own research into anything? What they are saying about Tylenol is actually from the results of some studies. There is evidence. Yet as soon as the pharma bought news tells you to ignore it, you ignore it because you still have some derangement. There is an entire website already set up showcasing these types of treatments and offering sources and advice.

>>16794173
It's even more shocking that them either defending big pharma or trashing them depends entirely on who the President is lol, or more accurately who is the one telling them that it is bad.

Bernie says big pharma bad! = Burn them!
Trump says same thing = OH MY SCIENCE!

>>16794188
>It's even more shocking that them either defending big pharma or trashing them depends entirely on who the President is lol
this

>>16794173
>makes stupid statement without nay evidence about tylenol causing autism
>you don't have any evidence of these claims and your retarded
Hehe look the libs are shilling big pharma again i'm such an intelligent independent free thinker just like daddy trump and rfk

No.

Autism encompasses such a broad range of non-specific symptoms that you'll find a correlation with pretty much anything.
That being said, taking it while pregnant probably isn't ideal for the baby.

>>16793708 (OP)
there is a solid hypothesis with developing research that it contributes and it is recommended to not turn your child into a lab experiment

trust the heckin science tm

>>16793778
i'm sorry for my stupid country

>>16794593
>with developing research
Most of the research doesn't show it
>recommended to not turn your child into a lab experiment
Then what other painkillers do you think pregnant women should use

>>16794602
>Then what other painkillers do you think pregnant women should use
Heroin.

>>16794612
Unironically low dose opiates are the best god tier pain relief drug

>>16794188
Name an instance of Bernie making claims about any specific drug causing autism. Please post his exact words and name the specific drug.

Bernie usually bitches about the pharma and insurance companies fleecing sick customers who needs medicine to live. You can hate him for being a socialist but you're a faggot if you misrepresent him.

>>16793708 (OP)
no.

viral infection give you autism and tylenol helps with the pain they can cause

>>16793708 (OP)
I found research papers warning against pregnant women taking Tylenol, so different docs showing pregnant women with siblings had no increase in risk of autistic offspring. Just keep adding qualifiers until your specific claim holds

>>16793715
>your fetus must be fully saturated with it
This
Love wins

>>16794594
What a sad little cuck you are...

>>16794185
there is some evidence, indicating it may be true, maybe something doctors should study more and maybe good inspiration for the health advice uncle billy bub gives out at thanksgiving.

Traditionally, the president does not weigh in on matters such as this, certainly when it is still just something that *could* be true.

>>16793708 (OP)
Nope. Know what causes both the Austeniteisms and Ass-Eat-Oh-Toxy-Mitt-Er-Am-Tylenol use?
>MASSIVE SUPER FUCKING BIGLY SPOILER ALERT: MOTHERFUCKING INFECTIONS

>>16794845
like there was a meta analysis showing it could be true, but there are all sorts of papers and usually the president isn't the one who finds them on google and waves them around inventing health advice from them.

>>16793831
>>16793831
Get that damn MD. Ignaz Semmelweis back to his mental institution, and place him back into his rubber room, ASAP! Damn this empirical statistics about invisible agents and unclean doctors, and how midwifes not touching cadavers and sick people results in higher number of not dying mothers and babies!

I'll wash hands with antiseptics, only if I'm dead! F* that crazy, paranoid schizo!
Correlation is not causation, and it's all BIG Antiseptics!

( Anyway, it's not like we have seen how pharma would lie about opioids being addictive or not, or how much money was spent on bribing FDA/politicians to shut blind eyes for profit. They also bought researchers, and fight tooth and nails not to have non-partial revision of those results. It's called circlejerked science, and it was all peer reviewed and f*ckin lucrative - even at one point the lawyer defending the corp was high on that stuff, and had to stop every 15-30mins to sate his 'needs' during the hearings - )

Did anyone actually read the study? It's even open access:
https://ehjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12940-025-01208-0

The sticking point is basically this 2024 Swedish study by Ahlqvist et al... the authors of paper above discredit it because (1) they didn't specifically ask in interviews whether acetaminophen was used and (2) the rate of acetaminophen use from the study is far lower than its rate of use in the general population (7.5% in Ahlqvist vs 50% globally vs ~60% in other studies)
If you don't include Ahqlvist in the analyses, the odds ratio is ~1.10-1.15, which is somewhat significant, but if you do include it, the odds ratio is ~1.02 with a 95%CI <1.
So really the question is - do you trust Ahqlvist's study? Or do you think it's bunk?

>>16793708 (OP)
If that was true we’d have a functional rail network already

>>16793708 (OP)
This is science and math, no? How about people actually read papers? This association has been researched for a long time.

Everyone should look into two things:

Acetaminophen depletion of glutathione and iron.

Glutathione impacts on Autism.

At the very least, maybe you retards will find the history of people dying from Tylenol for years

Acetaminophen toxicity is the 2nd leading cause of liver transplants in the world, and the number one cause of liver failure in the US.

The US has 50,000 + emergency room visits from Acetaminophen overdose.

I don't give a shit about your politics. Honestly if you people want to slam Tylenol, be my guest. But I feel bad that you retards will be so against Trump, that you'll actually deny Tylenol is one of the most dangerous drugs people throw in their mouths.

>>16794948
>>16794951
Shills ITT in shambles.

>>16794951
>>16794954

>>16793824
It's the same for men though.
Men swill coors light (glycophate laden) for 20 years and eat fried seed oils and then impregnagte a women over 30 with their shit sperm.
Sperm degradation is a big deal.
Not mine. Most men though.

>>16793934
Power > Money

There is Caesar and there is Nero. Two ways to power.
I can guarantee you prefer to live under Caesar.

>>16794602
None.
My wife rawdogged three pregnancies.

>>16793708 (OP)
awtism is super power

>>16793934
>WHY ISNT THE SQUARE FITTING INTO THE CIRCLE

>>16794602
Even they don't recommended it you dummy>>16794951
>>16794979

Imagine being so brainwashed.

>>16795145
holy based

I love science and journalism

>>16794198
chugging down pills regardless whether or not they're the primary cause of autism (there are complex, multifaceted factors that go into this) to own drumpf instead of caring about the life of the child you're siring inside of you is objectively evil, regardless.
>>16794764
babble

>>16793744
>I guarantee you autism is caused by obesity, sleep apnea, bad water, or old eggs/sperm, or some combination thereof.
Even taking these into account, the amount of autistic children developing past infanthood is unprecedented.

The real issue is lack of natural selection. Neurological states have a pronounced relationship with immunology.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24566677/

Tylenol xisters...our response?

>>16795392
See >>16794847 literally a "third variable" problem with infections.

>>16795414
>>16795392
Under results see:
>Results did not appear to be confounded by maternal inflammation, infection during pregnancy...
So the authors appear to have accounted for this

>>16795347
Doesn't directly relate to autism other than, potentially, communication skills issue.
>>16795389
>The real issue is lack of natural selection. Neurological states have a pronounced relationship with immunology.
Lacks evidence of immunological dysfunction
Unlikely to be true given the small decrease in infant mortality since the '70s.
>>16795145
Down's, not autism. Two completely different things.
>>16795392
Not autism-related.

>>16795392
>Hyper kinetic
>reads wiki
It sounds awful
>ADHD

It seems paracetamol causes zoomer-brain. That aside autism is quite different, and you have the asperger variant too that can spent days solving a niche problem (that can be useful, or not).

>>16795541
>>16795651
Well so it's ok then.

>>16793859
it turns out that goodwill, compassion and a desire to improve people'a lives is how you make big money.

Tylenol makes no money, there is no major financial stake in pushing any medicines that are out of patent and Paracetamol has been out of patent for over 100 years.

Each and every one of these posters, and many others I could not tag due to the spam filter, is either an LLM controlled by zionists or a paid zionist operative. The incentive is clear: keep people stupid and controllable. A quick search on google scholar shows that every meta analysis of studies involving "acetaminophen" and "autism" found a positive correlation. This means that acetaminophen use by pregnant women causes autism and other neurodevelopmental diseases in children. Acetaminophen use by children causes autism and other neurodevelopmental diseases. Anyone contraposing this on 4chan is either a paid zionist agent or entirely zogged. Here are the studies I looked at, if anyone is still literate.
Google Scholar https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q="acetaminophen"+"autism"&btnG=
Meta Analysis of 16 studies:
https://assets.cureus.com/uploads/review_article/pdf/84979/20240724-319105-we67jl.pdf
Misc studies:
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0300060517693423
https://pages.ucsd.edu/~mboyle/COGS163/pdf-files/Did%20Acetaminophen%20Provoke%20the%20Autism%20Epidemic-PeterGood-2009.pdf
https://academic.oup.com/ije/article/45/6/1987/2617189
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/aur.1591

>>16794612
youre being edgy but they do. in late pregnancy, they use morphine too

>>16795708
>Well so it's ok then.
Is there a moral imperative somewhere that obliges us to prevent ADHD or autism no matter what it costs? No.
>>16795788
Let's look at one of the studies:
>https://assets.cureus.com/uploads/review_article/pdf/84979/20240724-319105-we67jl.pdf
It says:
>We got 2503 studies for screening. After screening through titles and abstracts, 2433 records were excluded.
Let's better hope that not some "inconvenient" studies have been excluded as well just for the sake of it.
In the end, we read the following:
>After adjusting confounders and indications of use, we concluded that
prenatal use of acetaminophen was associated with 19% and 21% more likely to be associated with borderline or clinical ASD and ADHD symptoms, respectively, compared to non-exposed children.
Borderline in opposition to clinical implies that the borderline cases were not formally diagnosed.
Also a relative increase by 19 %/21 %, assuming the validity of the study, frankly translates into a trivial increase from 2 % to 2.4 %.
>Lead author is Farhana Yaqoob Khan
I'm not sure but I'm aware of an antivaxxer by the same last name.

>>16795541
>Down's, not autism. Two completely different things.
My bad.

>>16796733
Science resettlement is very on brand for Obama senpai desu

>>16793708 (OP)
No, but OP can make the world a better place by mixing it with grapefruit juice.

>>16793739
One of the weirdest facts about American pop culture is Oprah's role in elevating two of the Trump administration's monsters to prominence: The sadistic "Doctor" Phil and the sickening "Doctor" "OZ". Conspicuous by her silence on the matter, I sometimes wonder what the fuck she does all day, these days, on her massive fraction of Maui.

simplest solution, stop thinking your genes matter and don't get preggo. Look at a global human population chart and stop being a contributor to the problem retard.

>>16797159
shalom!

>>16796822
being morbidly obese takes its time.

>>16795123
Shills real quiet after this one lol

Jews seething about people caring about unborn children on /sci/, in any context, is always wild to see

>>16797159
Say that to Africans, rabbi

>>16797977
Please understand, destroying the 10% of world population (and decreasing) will save the world!
>there're at least 2 pajeets for each European and related.

>>16793708 (OP)

The thing that is INSANE is that the maker of Tylenol does suggest that pregnant women NOT use its product.
There is a group of women with TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) when they heard that the TRUMP administration suggested that they do not take Tylenol while pregnant they did exact opposite and took more while pregnant.

They would rather have autistic children than do ANYTHING that Trump suggests.

>>16797983
"Most of current autism is caused by Tylenol or vaccines" and "Don't use our product if you're pregnant, we don't want to be sued" aren't equivalent retard-kun.

>>16794901
This!

>>16794948
>Brings up liver disease
Nice red herring but kindly fuck off as this thread is about autism.

>>16795145
That's wobewt downy duniow from down under! Downies are a nuerotypicuck variant and not in anyway related to autism.

>>16797983
>The thing that is INSANE is that the maker of Tylenol does suggest that pregnant women NOT use its product.
No, it's not insane and there's absolutely nothing about it that warrants this bi-partisan bullshit that you're trying to push.
>They would rather have autistic children than do ANYTHING that Trump suggests.
Autistic children easily beats ingesting bleach because you think it cures Covid-19.

>>16798281
Who said to ingest bleach to cure COVID19?

>>16799291
And then the dumbfuck...
>As for Trump, on April 23, he said, "And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it'd be interesting to check that, so that you're going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me." That comment garnered immediate and urgent responses. Health officials from all over the U.S. felt it necessary to remind people that it's dangerous to drink bleach or other disinfectants. The makers of Clorox and Lysol immediately put out reminders that their products should never be used internally.

Hypochlorite and chlorite are excellent to disinfect surfaces but not to ingest or inject...

>>16793708 (OP)
It will gove you organ failure if you overdose. Read the warning label.

>>16794951
>decades of research vs. an out of context tweet
absolute state of american politics

>>16793781
The most fucked group of autists from my experience aren't the heavily retarded ones, but those with IQs in the below average-average range. The obviously retarded ones will get some support, the higher IQ ones (formerly called assburgers) can use their intellect to carve out a somewhat decent life for themselves, but the average ones don't appear retarded on the surface level so they'll get little support. Chris-Chan belongs to that category and he was fucking lucky to have a monthly tugboat and parents willing to keep him around (well, until he burned that bridge) - without those things he would've gone either homeless or thrown into some prison-esque group home heavily doped up on drugs turning him into a zombie.

>>16793781
>autism wasn't really a thing until after ww2.
yeah because before, kids where something was "off" literally were locked in the attic with the key thrown away. having a mentally retarded kid was seen as shameful

>>16797983
>The thing that is INSANE is that the maker of Tylenol does suggest that pregnant women NOT use its product.
Would love to see a source for this. I know you don't have one though.

>>16799310
That's Trump's rhetoric where he is likening the effectiveness of antiseptic products to a hypothetical drug. You can choose to interpret it incorrectly as him saying 'inject bleach' and I'm not surprised Americans would have to be warned against it but that isn't what he's saying.
For example beta-lactam antibiotics cause bacterial cell walls to breakdown, stripping the bacteria of the wall and thus lysing the bacteria. This is similar, but not the same, as how soap is able to strip fat ions and can thus clean hands. Likening these two is not altogether too outlandish however if you interpret this, as you did with Trump, it becomes advice to eat soap to get rid of bacteria.
That the media ran with the 'Trump tells people to eat bleach' doesn't make it true when you look at his actual statement, which you posted

>>16799598
>Chloroquine
>No masks
>just a flu
>"something like bleach to inject yourself bro"
>the pandemic isn't real, it's caused by testing too much
He's a dumbass that shouldn't have a mic near his retarded mouth.

>>16796733
THE
SCIENCE
IS
SETTLED!!!!

>>16799613
>Chloroquine
Antiparasitics have had a tendency to work as partial antivirals especially with emergent viruses. I don't know the reason for this and I believe it's still a bit of a mystery that is being figure out

>No masks
There has been reviews that have demostrated the inefficacy of cloth masks which is due to a variety of factors. I don't blame people for not doing this when the guidelines were being pulled out of thin air or, at best, pulled from other viral transmission that wasn't how COVID transmitted

>Just a flu
I recall the delta and omicron variants had a lesser lethal and morbidity rate than that of influenza so likening it to the flu is not outrageous. I get the idea that general population just think the flu and having a cold are the same which isn't the case so it has a less serious nature to it.

>Inject bleach
Already answered that one

>Not real
I vaguely remember this but I reckon this was due to the higher levels of false positives from the home kits hence why this talking point came up

Overall, it wasn't done well I'll grant that. Primarily because it came to its heights leading up to the election and the response by the American government were all-around poor and wishy-washy. Trump tried to both 'shutdown the virus' and 'let people live their lives' and playing both sides meant that he fucked up the response. He should've said 'Fuck that Fauci and his China schemes, I'm locking out China and everyone who is coming from their is detained and PCR tested until clear. Then, I'll be limiting international flights for only international trade or certain exceptions which'll have to also follow the detainment and PCR testing process'. If he had hardlined that (and had some loyal to him going through the pandemic anticipation plans) then I believe that the US would've isolated from the more lethal variants of the virus more effectively.

>>16799633
>trying to hide the sun with his thumb
Nice double criteria for 1. and 2... the POTUS has no place to seed his ignorance and use his POLITICAL authority to override basic medical knowledge.

>I recall the delta and omicron variants had a lesser lethal
>I vaguely remember this but I reckon this was due to the higher levels of false positives from the home kits hence why this talking point came up
And that only shows your complete ignorance of the pandemic. South Africa, Brazil and the US were the origin of the worst covid variants and they politicized the pandemic to "own the liberals" and using strawmanning arguments with absolutes and absurd extremes. Thankfully there're articles with controlled population (like cruisers or airliners) with 100% test rate that were useful as reference for asymptomatic, false positives and false negatives.

>>16799646
>Variants
https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(24)00018-3/fulltext
Was just reading this and it seems you're right in pointing out the discrepencies with the variants especially as each variant arose in a different epidemiological environment. I wasn't paying too much attention to the popluation studies at the time as it was a busy enough time in my life so good to know, thanks.
Couldn't find the airliner papers so if you've got one handy I'd appreciate it.
I did a cursory look at the false positives rate. Generally around a 1% mark where spikes were a results of labratory malfunction. Was also reminded of the false negative problem which would've also fulled the 'not real' narrative

>>16795823
The shill has to come along and now debunk Tylenol themselves just like they did with Robert Malone. They already clamped your umbilical cord and cut your foreskine, don't let them clamp your mind and devour your soul.

>>16799706
Tylenol doesn't need to be debunked, your misinterpretation of that tweet needs to be.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/tylenol-x-post-2017-pregnancy/

>>16793744
>With that said I'm going to tell you the vast majority of autism diagnosis are fucking fake. I'm not denying obvious cases of retardation, I AM denying: child behaving eccentrically or in a way that makes parent/teacher work more = child is retarded.

Most "Real" autism is kids that are brain damaged because of poor environment and diet of the Mother while pregnant. Also if she is on anti depressants or anti psychotics while pregnant.

Thats a big thing no one is talking about much like leaded gas and water pipes produced more brain damaged people that committed violant crimes.

Mild autism that produces geniuses has probably always been real and isnt a disorder. Its not the same as being born with brain damage because mild autism used to produce people smarter than the general population

Just how many low achieving, bately functioning autistic kids have to be born before we figure out its not autism but actual brain damage?

>>16793781
>i think the establishment knows what causes autism, but they don't want to say becuase what ever is causing is some high profit sector.

Its going to be leaded gas all over again

>>16793708 (OP)
It’s exactly like climate change. Nobody’s really sure there are any adverse effects but just to be safe, let’s reduce consumption and finally ban Tylenol by 2027. With no viable alternatives of course.

>>16793915
>Does the US government ever "officially" focus on the main problems
Never. They only pick (or make up) low hanging fruit that make the population happy and vote them in next term. Actually pointing out a problem is down to them pisses them off and gets fewer votes. Cheap lies and 'solutions' win elections, expensive truths get you kicked to the curb.

Email from Johnson and Johnson showing they knew about the safety signal while they were producing Tylenol.

>>16793739
>>16793859
Slopulist political figures use this rhetoric to poison the well you fools, the only result is that it pushes common folk closer to gobbling up excrament of big business and their allies.

>>16795783
>>16795788
>>16795823
You know what, no matter what it looks like we’re going to get more studies done on this, which is a good thing.

https://youtu.be/f0lWoYz8ETE

>>16800018
It's exactly like climate change in that all scientific evidence is being undermined and obfuscated by unscientific narratives and blatant misinformation.

>>16800714
>which is a good thing.
Not really. If the cause for investigation was misplaced, then the time and money could have been invested in more fruitful research.

>>16795030
absolutely fundamentally based

fuck alcochol

>>16801551
Why does the Tylenol bottle say to ask your health professional if you can take it if you’re pregnant or breast-feeding? Sounds like blame shifting. If it’s ok to take it then why is there a requirement to ask your doctor there? They should conduct studies.

found you

>>16801866
Ok, so maybe it could have something to do with the weight of the woman and how many months pregnant she is.
If the woman is going to ask a doctor if she can take it and how much she can take, it might be a good idea to create an anonymous database that writes that down and then later on lets researchers know how many kids ended up with problems after their mothers took it. I don’t know if an anonymous data collection system like this exists, but it definitely should.

>>16801866
>If it’s ok to take it then why is there a requirement to ask your doctor there? They should conduct studies.
Non-sequitur.

>>16795777
Then why are they wasting time making it?

>>16801991
Because it still sells and if you slap a brand name on it you can improve your margins quite a bit. Also, the route is so optimized that it's basically free to make.

I'm connected with the powers that be, and I just want to say something. It became clear to us several decades ago that autistic people would drive the global economy, particularly the tech sector. They are EXTREMELY valuable for wealth creation. That is all.

>>16793708 (OP)
I'm pretty sure that widely broadening the autism spectrum in the DSM gives more people autism. So does database technology, because people with an outpatient diagnosis can then all be counted. So does a cultural shift, because people take their kid to see a specialist now, instead of hitting them, calling them a queer, and telling them to stop acting like a weirdo.

I'm pretty sure all that is far more impactful than Tylenol, but this administration can't simply say that, because hedge funds started investing in autism care, and so you can't just tell parents the reason their kid has an autism diagnosis is because they took them in for a diagnosis, it's easy to get a diagnosis of being on the spectrum, and everyone now has their diagnosis stored in a database.

>>16805283
When does the next edition of the DSM come out? They might split the "spectrum" into different condition again.

>>16801965
I don’t know about America, but Australia Medicare has a voluntary system called My Health Record that lets you keep a medical history record online. You can go to any doctor and he can get access to your medical history online instantly.
The personal data is kept private, but maybe they could do certain things, like seeing if any medication has an unknown side effect. All of this should be done anonymously, of course.

>>16793708 (OP)
If someone says something causes another thing ask if they've done a double blind study where the experimenter is the cause of the thing being tested. If they have not then they are mistaken if they say x causes y.

Consider this: What if the marketing of Acetomeniphen appeals to or happened to reach a certain demographic already prone to having autistic children or discovering autism in their children?

What if the people who think Tylenol is the safest because that's what hospitals use would have had Autists for offspring anyway?

Of course it is possible Tylenol causes autism, but to find out you need to find a bunch of pregnant women and force half to take Tylenol while forcing the other half to take inert matter without telling them which suppository they have taken.

>>16805950
This is similar to the Climate Change nonsense:

Does adding CO2 cause Earth's climate to get warmer?

We can see an association in the ice cores, but no proof of causation. To prove causation you would need a bunch of Earths and you would need to add CO2 to half of them. Then you would know the cause of the CO2 and changes in the CO2 added group could be attributed to CO2. It would rule out third causes that both result in added CO2 and changed climates.

Many 'scientists' just keep flapping their jaws when they can't do any experiments. People pay them because they have agendas

>>16805950
1. The manufacturers of acetomeniphen may not recommended it for pregnant women because they didn't test it enough for that demographic (trials are expensive) and they don't want legal problems
2. the question isn't if "X causes B" (or in better words if it increases incidence by a certain %), but the fact some people in the gov is creating a narrative that implies an autism epidemic (ignoring if the prevalence is higher or the reported cases using the same criteria) and that IT IS caused by vaccines and paracetamol (very autism speaks explaining autism spectrum as a disease induced by external factors).
So many non-sequitur that isn't even funny.

I have NEVER ingested that piece of shit. Ive always distrusted any ubiquitous "medicines" aka. Aspirin, omeprazole, all that shit people pop like nothing
>one a day keeps the doctor away bro!
Imagine falling for that jew scam shit you dumb cunt sheep

>>16795777
> acting out of goodwill is a good way to make money
> Tylenol makes NO money
> Thus, Tylenol is made out of goodwill
Uh

>>16795541
>Doesn't directly relate to autism other than, potentially, communication skills issue.
Which is a distinguishing feature of autism.

>>16793781
https://web.archive.org/web/20130512205539/http://www.sinetwork.org/pdf/schneider_moore.pdf

Not sure but it dissolves your kidneys

>>16793715
the ending of this post is often what pol does, because they dont fully believe (either way) the first part, so they have to go to these extremes, because everything is to be taken to some extreme

>>16794196
5G waves on the chip from Ukraine/Palestind to testing tyrenol for them (control is other side)

>>16796403

during delivery not prenancy

>>16793708 (OP)
You could research it yourself, or listen to this guy who did that legwork and is pretty trustworthy and unbiased.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mIZykAItBM

Useful TL;DR

>>16806148
>Which is a distinguishing feature of autism.
I mean, no. Mental retardation, brain damage etc. all cause deficits in communication skills as well.
You're committing the same fallacy that the "autism is my superpower" crowd does when they invoke the sorites fallacy to justify "spectrum narratives" which sees mild social anxiety conflated with severe syndromic mental retardation forms.
It's extremely annoying because the spectrum narrative obfuscates the very real possibility that severe communication deficits are secondary consequences of an underlying disease. It's similarly to what the anti-vaccine people don't get right when they deduce from singularly reports of adverse side effects that leads to autism to a bona fide singulary cause for autism.

>>16806975
>It's extremely annoying because the spectrum narrative obfuscates the very real possibility
To add to it, this is a reason as to why I believe that the whole neurodiversity shit is also pushed by pharmaceutical companies. But it's also just as much about putting as many people as possible on drugs.

>>16793708 (OP)
Probably.

>>16806975
>>16806979
Look up Jonathan Mitchell, an autistic writer who spent a bulk of his life saying no to "neurodiversity" and pushing for a cure, citing his extreme difficulties in life while still being better off than most of his brethren due to at least being able to speak about it. Libshit neurodiversity pushers fucking hated this guy's guts calling him bigoted and genocidal (none of them being autistic or having to deal with autistic family members themselves, of coursE).

Tylenol actually turns you mega gay
This is why it’s “just a prank bro” now whenever they do gay shit

>>/lgbt/41276503

>>16808636
>>>/lgbt/41276503 *

>>16806716
tylenol is safe so saturate your fetus with it
if you dont want to then you dont believe it is safe

>>16808636
>>16808637
God I want to lick boy abs so bad

>>16793715
it was fully tested before it entered the market at maximum speed of science too.

Could an autistic man get a woman like this?

Does tylenol even work for the stuff people usually use it for? I mean you take 1 pill and then like 30 minutes later it's supposed to cure your headache or whatever, the headache could easily have gone away on its own in that time. Even as a kid I was always kinda skeptical this stuff worked, I've taken either it or advil before.

>>16810961
>the headache could easily have gone away on its own in that time
this is basically trump's logic
tylenol's marginal benefit wins out in cases like super high fevers where the fever itself is more dangerous to the body than the side effects of tylenol

Worked for me

Autism is caused by high hyaluronic acid being degraded into a smaller inflammatory chain by hyaluronidase, mimics a wound environment. high fat and estrogen ->high hyaluronic acid. high stress -> high hyaluronidase. same mechanism that causes cancer, cept HIF-1a (hypoxia) increases hyaluronic acid

>>16812664
You are talking about a random mouse model, at least schizo about valproic acid