Thread 16803009

Very Large Telescope just gave another big destructive hit to standard science...

3I/ATLAS is bleeding nickel at levels no comet should, defying physics, and dwarfing anything we’ve seen before, including Oumuamua and Borisov.
>https://x.com/UAPWatchers/status/1973358078935581126

How about posting the paper instead of a xitter link?

>>16803014
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2509.26053
https://avi-loeb.medium.com/new-data-on-the-extreme-nickel-production-of-3i-atlas-c889b20342c1

>>16803015
>an enormous bar of nickel
The Dark Forest tossed a fucking rod at us.
They're going to destroy Mars as a lesson to us and hopefully false flag the local tigers into thinking we self-heroed our civilization.
We need to stfu.

>>16803015
>at levels no comet should, defying physics

I'm struggling to find where where the paper concludes this?

>>16803022
It doesn't and like usual it destroyed OP

>>16803022
Pretty sure they know it's a rockball and not a snowball. Makes sense it would eject nickel.
Not like they make planets out of that stuff or anything.

>>16803029
Nope other work shows the coma is dominated by CO2, with H2O and water ice.

https://arxiv.org/abs/2508.18209

Also, as you can see from the measurements in that paper, all comets eject some amount of nickel.

>>16803078
Oh dear, a "surprising" amount of nickel. That could mean anything. Thank you scientists for nailing this one down too!

>>16803018
good Venus is better anyway

The Nickelodeon comet boutta finna rugrat

>>16803009 (OP)
Let's assume it's artificial. Loeb stated that its perihelion (nearest point to the Sun) is exactly opposite to the Earth, and that that is the most efficient point to make a course adjustment. The possibility discussed is that if it were to make such an adjustment it would be in order to circularize its orbit around the Sun. But it seems to me that such an adjustment could achieve another result: to hit the Earth and wipe us out. A civilization some light years away might know we're here from all the radio noise, and have worked out what planets exist in the solar system but not know which planet is producing all the radio signals. 3I/Atlas has to get close enough to determine which planet to hit. Making the appropriate orbital adjustment behind the Sun means that when it emerges into view it will be too late for us to do anything when we see that it coming straight at us.

>>16803583
>bank shot
we can vaporize it with nooks

>>16803802
>>>16803583 (You)
>>bank shot
>we can vaporize it with nooks
I recall a paper that showed that all you get by nuking an asteroid is a cloud of small asteroids that coelesce back into a more or less solid ball. Anyway, even if it doesn't coelesce before hitting Earth, you get hit by a shotgun blast instead of a single bullet.

>>16804264
However, further thought makes me aware that if the aliens had an idea of what planets there are and where their orbits around the Sun, and assuming they are seeing the solar system edge on, they would know which planet is producing radio noise because the noise would stop when that planet was behind the Sun from their point of view. If they are not looking at the solar system edge on, and the planets are always visible, then they'd need to measure slight doppler effects on one or two radio signals of the relative motion of the planets.

>>16803009 (OP)
sample of one. let's extrapolate

>>16803009 (OP)
>It’s bleeding nickel at levels no comet should, defying physics,
Clickbait like this is why science is so Reddit and cringe now. Literally kill yourself.

I'm not clicking one of those links ever the fuck again.

>>16803015
>avi-loeb
why are we still posting this hack?

Stupid question but what does the I mean in FeI and NiI? Are they just Fe+ and Ni+? I take it they are not iodides lol

>>16804355
FeI is just neutral Fe actually. I is neutral, II is singly ionised.

>>16803583
whats the chance of this "bullet" arrives when we are just capable to observe it? this will be new norm soon, weird objects coming and going

>>16803018
Mars already got giga-nuked twice millions of years ago. It is coming to make sure it is still a dead rock.

Of course there’s shit out there that our own understanding of physics can barely follow. We update physics.

Why does this piss scientists off again? Because it’s like admitting magic exists?

>>16803583
There are far more efficient ways to exterminate potential threats, like deploying biological weapons able to make a civilization destroy itself. Methods that releases or involve high amounts of energy attract too much unwanted attention.

>>16804432
Giving power to the unknown is le bad.

There’s unexplainable shit on our planet already and we’re omg’ing at space? I’m in love.

>>16804264
shotgun blast is fine-ish, most stuff would burn up in the atmosphere; the impactors would cause much more damage in terms of blast and thermal effects but you don't run a risk of megatsunamis, mantle cracking or anything wild like that
four years of winter and maybe a few millioin dead from prompt effects. not great, not terrible

Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter photos soon.

>>16804436
NTA, but I would think sending an expedition to an alien civilization and launching a project to understand their much different biology in order to develop a disease which they might be able to counter would be a lot harder than sending a huge rock to home in on radio signals. And what unwanted attention? From the target civilization? Don't give them time to respond. From other civilizations? If they're close enough to detect a chunk of rock hitting a planet in another solar system, they're already in your crosshairs as well.

You fail to account for how big and empty the space is.

>>16804436
>be space boomers
>reeeeee at noisy zoomer planet making radio noise
>travel 1000s of light years to kidnap a few of them, study how they work and develop a virus to kill them
>or do some math and re-direct a giant rock at them
you're brians been melted by jewish entertainment, hurling a space rock wins by a mile

>>16803583
>and that that is the most efficient point to make a course adjustment
Anyone else finds it funny that at this exact moment pic related happens?

>>16803583
This is ridiculous speculation. It's a space rock that will be flying out of our solar system and we'll never see it again.

>>16805487
Most likely.

>>16804436
>something more efficient than throw a rock at the problem

I got believe our best scientific models were wrong about the makeup of the 3rd interstellar comet ever spotted. Science BTFO!

>>16805117
What am I supposed to see in your pic? Could you highlight it more clearly?

>>16803583
>will be too late for us to do anything when we see that it coming straight at us.

women drivers, amirite? who knows what these illegal aliens are up to

Preliminary photos from Mars.

>>16803583
Makes more sense, thank you

>>16804425
>We think the ayys are going to fuck up Earth
>They show up and don't give a shit about us
>But they really fucking have it out for mars for some reason

>>16804355
I thought they were oxidation states, not formulas of iodides.

>>16805555
Throw tiny rock loaded with space bugs at problem.

>>16807600
Not an argument.

>>16804264
they obviously nuked it wrong, you detonate below surface at such depth that you vaporize material above explosive and this material weighting hundreds of tones shoots into one direction at above escape velocity, while rest of asteroid goes other way.

>>16805039
They're overdue. They're also not being released by China or the euro space agency and it's been radio silence from the entire community. They saw something

>>16808076
How do you figure it's overdue?

>>16808098
I mean from all agencies? ESA said this week

>>16808099
The week that has just begun with Monday? Also source?

>>16808101
Removing noise from a RAW image doesn't take a week. Why all the silence for a High Res Image?

>>16808108
Absence of evidence is not an evidence of absence. Until The Jew says something, I sleep.

>>16807597
What do you do when the space bugs are incompatible with the biology of the planet you're trying to exterminate and just starve without killing anyone?

loeb is being destroyed on bsky

>>16808126
Chemosynthesis.

>>16807723
It's called argumentum ad redardum iudaeum

>>16804425
>Mars already got giga-nuked twice millions of years ago.
prove it, I wanna laugh at your retarded ass

>>16804296
Who do you think it is promoting this disinfo agent..

I wasn't aware he was a hack until now.

WHY WONT THEY RELEASE THE MARS PHOTOS

>>16808208
>Simeon (((Schmauß))) trying to deboonk /ourguy/ Loeb on bluecry

>>16803583
except it's not exactly opposite and will remain within a line of sight with earth during its entire visit

>>16804436
yeah bro let's just give them blankets laced with small pox, way more efficient than just blowing them up. stupid Americans

>>16804438
But anything we don’t know is automatically everything else out there.

There was a backyard telescope enthusiast that got a really good pic of 3i atlas, an actual photo of what it looks like. I can’t find the pic anywhere. If someone has it can you post it?

>>16808787
?

>>16807477
>probings were just making sure we aren't martian straggler spawn
o fugg

>>16803009 (OP)
>Avi Loeb

>>16804296
>why are we still posting this hack?
hack board

We are still waiting for HiRISE images. Hack redemption arc.

Schmauss is continuing to holocaust Avi the ack.

hey wait a minute

>ayys thought mars was the inhabited planet
lmao gottem

>>16810357
a lot of text from SchmauB and not a single denounciation of hamas in there oy vavoy

>>16810714
it was inhabited a couple million years ago when they sent the thing our way

>>16809068
there's a new transient in every damn frame
what's up with all those?

>>16808206
those who don't want us talking about the Epstein Affair

>>16805487
>This is ridiculous speculation.

This is the only way to survive in a dark forest, speculate every way you can be killed and hope you aren't too late

>>16811444
cope

https://avi-loeb.medium.com/images-of-nickel-and-cyanide-around-3i-atlas-from-the-keck-telescope-5aa79f94eaa5
Oh no Avibros, he done it again...
>New Images of Nickel and Cyanide Around 3I/ATLAS from the Keck Telescope
>Cyanide
It's fucking Cyanogen you hack.

>>16808196
>>Mars already got giga-nuked twice millions of years ago.
>prove it, I wanna laugh at your retarded ass
Here is some reading material for you:
>Evidence of a Massive Thermonuclear Explosion on Mars in the Past, The Cydonian Hypothesis, and Fermi's Paradox
>https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2014JCos...2412229B/abstract
>Evidence for Large Planetary Climate Altering
Thermonuclear Explosions on Mars in the Past
>https://www.scirp.org/pdf/ijaa_2023062115280080.pdf
If you can't handle scientific papers then this may be more suitable for you:
>https://www.amazon.com/Death-Mars-Discovery-Planetary-Massacre/dp/193914938X
If your attention span is so far gone such sources are beyond your reach and need a tldr; then see pic.

>>16803018
well it missed Mars

>>16817315
the abundance of thorium in some places in India has never been satisfactorily explained as far as I know

>Hey look we have this data, its pretty weird and no one has an explanation why yet, neat right?

>SCIENCE IS A SCAM BECAUSE THEY CULDNT EXPLAIN THIS

>>16803009 (OP)
VERY nice troll post about comet flying at incredible hihg speed

>>16816065
Wouldn't it be more of a dark ocean?