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Anonymous No.16806804 >>16806819 >>16806970 >>16807185 >>16807213 >>16807342 >>16807595 >>16808357 >>16808561
Explain how magnets work
Do it now. I wait patiently for your response.
Anonymous No.16806806 >>16807157
No one has figured out how magnets work yet so we can't tell you, sorry OP. The leading theory is that 4000 years ago a mighty wizard enchanted a bunch of metal to have the properties of magnetism and spread it throughout the cosmos.
Anonymous No.16806813 >>16807252 >>16810312
When did you realize that a good chunk of science is just pondering orbs, both big and small? This includes rotations.
Anonymous No.16806819 >>16807157
>>16806804 (OP)
In materials its explained with the ising model, with the original source of magnetism being electrons having spin and ampere's law
Anonymous No.16806970 >>16807157 >>16807170 >>16810478
>>16806804 (OP)
Moving charge creates magnetic attraction. The magnetic force follows the Maxwell equations. Electrons in atoms are charge and they move, so they create a magnetic force
>but probability clouds
It's still moving charge even if the Bohr model is wrong
>but electron spin
Is not the primary mechanism in magnets
>but relativity
The Maxwell equations cover it
Anonymous No.16807157
>>16806806
This makes a lot of sense

>>16806819
>ampere
Is that like a kind of bottle?

>>16806970
dumb it down for me anon. I'm a /pol/tard on a b& and I'll be out of your hair soon enough
Anonymous No.16807170 >>16807205 >>16807255 >>16807257
>>16806970
I think OP don't want to know how magnetism is created but what it is. Gravity we can explain with spacetime, can we explain magnetism with a similar model?
Anonymous No.16807185
>>16806804 (OP)
You know how surrounding air will fill a vaccum if one is present? And if you have a lot of pressure in one spot it will expand to the surrounding air?
Well electric charge does the same thing. It's always trying to find a local equilibrium. You can imagine a magnetic north as a high pressure zone and south as low pressure if you wish. Two norths repel because you're trying to fit more charge in a finite space. Two souths repel because you're trying to pull more energy out of what's already a void.
North and south attract because because now you have a corresponding source to match the sink.
Anonymous No.16807205 >>16807695
>>16807170
Magnetism is relativity applied to electricity. Anything that moves relative to anything else experiences relatity, specifically length contraction. Moving charge causes length contraction that makes a conductor that would normally be neutral to have a larger (or smaller) concentration of charge, which attracts or repels other particles
Anonymous No.16807213
>>16806804 (OP)
Polarization of the Γ†ther
Anonymous No.16807214
Anonymous No.16807221
God does it
Anonymous No.16807252 >>16808611
>>16806813
Our own lives make no sense anon
We are "here" wherever that is, and "alive" and "conscious" whatever that's supposed to mean
For no reason at all

We just use science and other shit as a distraction to not get mad from the insanity of it all
We form patterns and smile to ourselves and say "aha, so that's why"
But it's all just a cope to avoid answering the fundamental questions
Anonymous No.16807255 >>16808498
>>16807170
EM forces are a statistical approximation of momentum transfer by photons.
Anonymous No.16807257
>>16807170
>Gravity we can explain with spacetime
the spacetime model is still not what gravity *is*, LMAO
Anonymous No.16807342
>>16806804 (OP)
>Explain how magnets work
A field expresses a delay in space-time.
Anonymous No.16807355
Electrons forget where they are
Anonymous No.16807595
>>16806804 (OP)
>explain why constant is that value
it just is
Anonymous No.16807676
superconductors have zero resistance. does it take electrical power to keep super conducting magnets running in things like an mri machine. or is it just a matter of keeping the coils cold?
Anonymous No.16807695 >>16808511
>>16807205
LOL. Length contraction is not a physical phenomenon, it's an artifact of badly defined notions in SR like length. Length requires you to take two measurements simultaneously but there is no such thing as absolute simultaneity in SR. There is no magical force that shrinks objects because someone is moving around them lol
Anonymous No.16808357
>>16806804 (OP)
for dumdums like you, its basically two guys that live on opposite sides of the street and hate each other so much they will do anything they can to avoid the other guy while oddly enough loving their respective spouse so much that they are always together no matter what.
Anonymous No.16808498
>>16807255
yeah man, there's always this weird glow whenever I get a spoon or sometthing close to my fridge magnets
really annoying
do you listen to yourself, dumbass?
Anonymous No.16808511
>>16807695
As a matter of fact length contraction is the only real physical phenomenon in relativity.
Anonymous No.16808561
>>16806804 (OP)
Classically we beieved there existed small ampere currents in magnetic material which were so aligned not to cancel out as in most materials and instead it alligned in scuh a way where it produces a magnetic field.

Nowadays, QM says it has something to do with spin or something I dunno. Best answer is we don't really know we just have okay models.
Anonymous No.16808611
>>16807252
Well you are a single organism made of tons of organisms. You are more so the bacteria in your body than you are your body. Study biology. People get lost in thinking of themself as who they are rather than what comprises them. A car without an engine is just rolling chunk of metal. You without bacteria do not exist. You are a bunch of single cell organisms escaping chaos. You are literally in heaven compared to most organisms. Enjoy it. Relax. It's alright anon.
Anonymous No.16810312
>>16806813
Good post.
Anonymous No.16810478
>>16806970
>>but electron spin
>Is not the primary mechanism in magnets
no. you're right that dipole-dipole interactions are tiny, but ferromagnetism comes from the interchange interaction, which couples spin and not orbital angular momentum.