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Anonymous No.16816486 >>16816525 >>16816950 >>16816955 >>16817317 >>16818315 >>16819032 >>16819703
Is there a way of learning chemistry without having to memorize anything ?
Anonymous No.16816525 >>16816877 >>16816955 >>16818320
>>16816486 (OP)
Yes, learn all the underlying physical laws and the chemistry stuff will follow logically
Anonymous No.16816877 >>16816901 >>16816904
>>16816525
Where should I start?
Anonymous No.16816901
>>16816877
quantum mechanics at the plank length
Anonymous No.16816904 >>16816923
>>16816877
since you seem like an idiot I'll make it clear, he's trolling you. and to answer you question, no.
Anonymous No.16816923 >>16816925
>>16816904
Why not?
Anonymous No.16816925
>>16816923
nobuddy knows nigga
Your lord jesus christ just made it that way
Or maybe it just made itself
Or maybe there's a funuhhhhmental GUTTY lurking down there and it's all defined by one super special group with all the nicest symmetries and that's the only way it can possibly be
Anonymous No.16816950
>>16816486 (OP)
For schoolwork no. But historically, chemistry discoveries were done by highly-original thinkers.
Anonymous No.16816955 >>16818213 >>16818293
>>16816486 (OP)
no
>>16816525
>Yes, learn all the underlying physical laws
that require memorization tho
Anonymous No.16817029
I did it. When I was at school, I didn't learn anything, I just memorised the basics myself, not learning by heart or smth, in high school there was preparation for exams - I didn't prepare. On the last day before the EГЭ (Russian past exam) I reviewed the courses on YouTube overnight, passed 76/100 points with stupid mistakes, bc I was too exited. It is necessary to take into account that I am in Russia, of course, it all depends on your teacher and basic knowledge. The tests are of the same type, it is easy to calculate the answer only on the basics.
Btw I am now finishing the 4th year of a bachelor's degree in chemical technology, I haven't taught a single discipline for a day, but I still understand the subject more than many students.
As a result, everything depends more on your interest in discipline and even more on your mindset.
Anonymous No.16817199
yes but it's absolutely infeasible
if you want to actually learn chemistry i suggest chemistry the central science it's got five authors whose names i forgot but it's like the bible for high school chemistry
Anonymous No.16817200
My orgo Prof says not to memorize anything. Is he trolling me
bI0 No.16817317
>>16816486 (OP)
You can use shortcuts if you understand what you're doing or seeing, but I don't think you can completely ignore memorization. But it can be fun and very rewarding.
Anonymous No.16818213 >>16819030
>>16816955
not if you know the "grand unifying theory¨TM" and can derive any formula you want from that
Anonymous No.16818293
>>16816955
>that require memorization tho
On the same order of a few words a month. You can pretty much derive the entirety of an undergrad physics understanding from a mathematical physics text and the intro chapters of standard texts. That's pretty much all you need to do any problem you'll come across.
When I started my matsci PhD, I was actually kind of blown away by the sheer volume of shit my chemistry-trained peers had and how little it carried them. Meme fucking degree aside from the benchwork.
Anonymous No.16818315
>>16816486 (OP)
No.
Some memorization will be required. If you rely exclusively on memorization, however, you won't learn much chemistry
Anonymous No.16818320 >>16818325 >>16818326
>>16816525
You're on the wrong side of the dunning kreuger curve. Logically, it does make sense, but in practice, we don't have such a strong understanding of physics that we can simply calculate the results of chemical reactions. Thus, chemists must all rely on experimentalism..
Anonymous No.16818325
>>16818320
>we don't have such a strong understanding of physics that we can simply calculate the results of chemical reactions
funnily enough, the solution to this is "we need a stronger understanding of physics" not "we need a stronger understanding of chemistry". the race is lost for chembros
Anonymous No.16818326
>>16818320
Primal logic is your friend not your enemy
Anonymous No.16819030 >>16819081 >>16819703
>>16818213
>not if you know the "grand unifying theory¨TM"
but you have to memorize that
I want understanding with zero brain activity
Anonymous No.16819032
>>16816486 (OP)
start with learning butt and then advance into anus.
Anonymous No.16819081
>>16819030
I dont think that is possible anon, having a shit memory and not wanting to use it precludes understanding. memory and reasoning work hand in hand to solve problems
Anonymous No.16819703
>>16819030
>>16816486 (OP)
Knowing how to play music is a different process than learning music theory. I believe in you anon. You can do it.