Thread 16825075

Char - edition

previous >>16822056

TOO SLOW.

ABORT ABORT.

Second for Beltalowda

Let's make this thread the slow /sfg/ the OG anons have always wanted

Elon Musk acknoledges Chinese Falcon 9s copy is superior to SpaceX's
>Elon Musk, CEO of US private space firm SpaceX, said on Thursday that several Chinese reusable carrier rockets have added aspects of Starship and to a Falcon 9 architecture, allowing it to beat SpaceX's Falcon 9 rocket.
>Musk made the comment in another social media post containing a video clip, which showed the fueling rehearsal and static ignition test of Chinese private space firm LandSpace's Zhuque-3 reusable rocket conducted from October 18 to 20 at the Dongfeng Commercial Aerospace Innovation Test Zone.
>The post on which Musk commented also mentioned two other Chinese reusable carrier rockets: the CZ-12A developed by CASC and Tianlong-3 developed by Space Pioneer, adding that "20+more rocket companies are building launch sites!"
>"They have added aspects of Starship, such as use of stainless steel and methalox, to a Falcon 9 architecture, which would enable it to beat Falcon 9," Musk commented
>Wang Yanan, chief editor of Aerospace Knowledge magazine, told Global Times on Friday that Musk's assessment is generally objective. Chinese commercial space companies have indeed adopted some of SpaceX's successful approaches, such as stainless steel structures, liquid methane-oxygen fuel systems, and reusable technologies.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202510/1346437.shtml

Clear-dono sounded like she had just finished cumming when she turned the mic back on, after H3 had passed Max-Q.
So breathy, so ragged...

>>16827076
Implessive
+15

>>16827076
Translation:
>The cheap chink knock-off stolen from superior western original inventions got on tiny thing right by complete accident, and will still fucking fail like everything from bugland.
Call us when you finally land men on the moon. We did it half a century ago.

Catching up on the Clear launch stream

Good to see JAXA trying to move up before the Indians eat their l(a)unch

>>16827214
Nah it's because he's pointed out in the past that Falcon 9 was not originally designed for reuse.

These clones are, and will do better than the Falcon 9 just because of that.

>>16825075 (OP)
Free Mars

>>16827214
>We did it half a century ago.
And you didn't go back, nor are you able to do it again.
There's no point in just going some place, plant a flag and say, we did it first, is just an expensive narcissistic display.
The right thing is to go there and put a permanent base, that allows you to run science, develop technology, exploit local resources and use it to colonize the solar system.
So no, you failed.

Do not let them take away Mars.

>>16827822
can't take away what's never been given lol

>>16825075 (OP)
Because of formailities:

previous >>16825072

this new split tab feature is really useful. I can shitpost at double speed, two threads at once!

this thread needs more jiggly ass

>>16827822
replace this with spacex suits, a cybertruck, starship, and put the base underground and suddenly its realistic

>>16828111
>put the base underground
you really don't need to do that. just bury the structure in a foot of regolith or 3d print a regolith shell. no need to put it underground where it will be more difficult to access.

>>16827787
I'll take 3

>>16827787
put this bitch on a bike

And so the slow thread becomes the main. Hello everybody

wew

why dont they use trampolines to launch rockets

If you can justify the economics of space-based data centers, can you not also justify space power generation and transmission back down to earth?

>>16828151
>If you can justify the economics of space-based data centers
you can't

>can you not also justify space power generation
people really will advocate for every wacky retarded idea to generate electricity rather than just using nuclear fission.

we can justify factories in space

>>16828158
only if $perkg to LEO decreases by 2 orders of magnitude.

>>16827822
why is there a fr*nch flag?

Business Idea:

High altitude concerts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia1sl6r0ziI

>>16828164
euros are delusional and think they are way more important than they actually are. everyone knows this.

/sfg/ - /Spaceflight For Gooners/

>>16828164
For the whores to piss on

>>16825075 (OP)
I came here to laugh at BO.

>>16828165
the fuck did i just watch

>>16828199
The most Brütal show on planet earth featuring the most Brütal band - Dethklok.

>>16827076
>globaltimes.cn

>>16828164
It's just a gate, not a flag.

>>16828164
only EU that even pretended to care about spaceflight

Just realized that Crew Dragon has flown more crewed missions in 5 years than Shenzhou has in 22 years

>>16827822
>kids in spacesuits
>lets go walk around on the martian dirt like we did yesterday sweaty
>keep your helmet on this time, okay sweaty?

>>16828229
>According to a February 2022 report by the Mercator Institute for China Studies (MERICS), a social credit "score" is a myth as there is "no score that dictates citizen's place in society".
https://merics.org/en/comment/chinas-social-credit-score-untangling-myth-reality

>>16827076
>which would enable it to beat Falcon 9
Is he referring to a reusable 2nd stage? Otherwise I fail to see how beyond things generally being cheaper there.

>>16828246
if you are designated 失信 i.e. lost of credibility in china you can be rejected from boarding hst and planes etc.

>>16825665
You goofy son of a bitch!

>>16828164
because it's fiction :^)

>>16828229
You use 加 instead of a plus sign when writing in Chinese because otherwise it looks like a ten. Please be racist more accurately in the future.

>>16827076
>linking a Chink propaganda website

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1981715903818420725

>>16828199
The most popular heavy metal band on Earth is launched (along with some of the audience) into the upper stratosphere to play a show among the heavens.

>>16827520
Does this mean that Starship will only account for 8% of world upmass? Does Falcon 9 stay winning?

>>16828300
Anon how would you feel if you did not have breakfast this morning?

>>16828111
>and suddenly its realistic
...And suddenly it looks like yet another vaporware CGI mockup, you mean.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/science/isros-gaganyaan-reaches-90-completion-ahead-of-historic-human-spaceflight-chairman-v-narayanan-confirms-progress/articleshow/124784015.cms
>The Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) is making remarkable progress on its human spaceflight programme, Gaganyaan. Chairman V Narayanan recently revealed that approximately 90 per cent of the mission’s development work has been completed, signalling a major milestone for India’s ambitions in space exploration as reported by Indian Defence News.
>The Gaganyaan mission aims to send Indian astronauts into low Earth orbit using an indigenously developed spacecraft, marking a historic achievement for the nation. Key technological elements, including a human-rated launch vehicle, life support systems, crew safety mechanisms, and human-centric equipment, are nearing completion. With successful integrated tests already conducted, ISRO is poised to join the ranks of countries capable of independent crewed space missions, reinforcing India’s growing stature in global space science.

The article uses the photo from a space.com article announcing that it will be delayed until 2027, kek

>>16828315
incredible but the capsules should be larger I think

>>16828150
That only works if the rocker falls down from space and you use the trampoline to bounce it back up into space

>>16828343
isn't there supposed to be the silhouette of a black man illuminated in a clouds?

https://www.space.com/space-exploration/human-spaceflight/vast-gearing-up-to-launch-its-haven-1-private-space-station-in-2026
>Vast is moving into the final stages of building its Haven-1 private space station, readying for launch in 2026, in a move that could open up a new era in human spaceflight.
>In the past couple of weeks, the California-based startup has completed the final weld on the primary structure of Haven-1, followed by painting. Next steps include integrating the flight article's hatch and a domed window as the company moves closer to realizing its vision of a private space station in low Earth orbit (LEO).
>Haven-1 is designed to launch on a SpaceX Falcon 9 and, at around 31,000 pounds (14,000 kilograms), will be the largest spacecraft to lift off atop the rocket. The space station is planned to host up to four short-duration astronaut missions during its three-year lifespan, with crews of four people spending 10 days at a time aboard Haven-1 (or some other combination of missions totaling 160 astronaut days).

>>16827076
>chinese space

>>16828350
i love brown gas

>>16828346
>>16828343
Yeah, if you look carefully you can see it in this slowed down footage

>>16828330
Good point

>>16828355
>>16828350
*sniffff*

>>16828350
Quick! Send this footage to CNN, CNBC, The Wall Street Journal, The Wash- oh wait, they don't care. Hey, did you know that Elon Musk's Boca Chunga was built on indigenous land?

>>16828350
>bicycle
y u do dis

>>16828364
>me playing KSA 2

>>16828366
whats the point of ai slop if there arent any fat tits

>>16828366
Should have had bike lady pedalling away from the crash

>>16828367
here you have your fat tits, you wanker

why has the spammer not been banned? jfc

>>16828385
which one?

>>16828232
kek

>>16828386
the AI spammer.

>>16828396
>http:
lol. lmao, even.
fuck off, /x/.

>>16828396
no anon the ufos are not german
they are bug people from another planet

>>16828402
Germans are already bug people

The ogryn in DH should have been a female

>>16828418
Fuck wrong thread:(

>>16828418
Greetings fellow /vg/ subhuman

>>16828385
you know that the jannies can't watch everything, you need to use the triangle next to the post number to tell them about it

>>16828421
>no lanklet spacer gf

" I came upon a brown sheet of flowing shallow water, where meadows used to be. At first I was surprised at this flood in a hot, dry summer, but afterwards I discovered that it was caused by the tropical exuberance of the red weed. Directly this extraor- dinary growth encountered water it straightway became gigantic and of unparalleled fecundity. Its seeds were simply poured down into the water of the Wey and Thames, and its swiftly growing and Titanic water fronds speedily choked both those rivers."

>>16828430
Me me it's the batgirl

>>16828343
All that's missing is spooky Halloween music.
>The Haunting at the Vehicle Assembly Building

"Grrrrr..."

Who will land first? BONG or LandSpace?

>>16828495
Controlled? Probably BONG

Why do we call it LandSpace when its name is Blue Arrow?

>>16828514
Because that's what the company calls itself in English, because the direct translation of the name doesn't make sense in English and English speakers wouldn't know how to pronounce a conventionally transliterated name.

>>16828526
But LandSpace doesn't make sense either

>>16828363
based and brap pilled

>>16828375
name 10 br*tish rocket launches

>>16827338
>What will Mars be like genetically?
Probably some combination of amerimutt and chinese.
>what about euros and russians????
Lol, india will add to the mix before they do.

https://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/raumfahrt-muenchner-start-up-the-exploration-company-holt-nasa-managerin-lueders-a-94d9acd1-931b-466c-8c3c-0e90eaac7383

Kathy Lueders was hired by Franco-German company The Exploration Company.

>>16828111
>Mars
>SpaceX
>no mention of DRA 5.0
That's how I know people have ZERO understanding of space technology

>>16827214
eh the world is built on cheap knockoffs, I don't mind if its roggits now too

>>16828363
kek, there it is

>>16828111
>underground
>realistic
Only someone who doesn't know anything about tunneling machines (including formerly and possibly presently Elon Musk) thinks this is remotely feasible
>>16828636
>DRA 5.0
>Mars direct derived
>NTP used
Uh huh

>>16828528
Good point!

>>16828541
not our proudest moment

Does the Dream Chaser Tenacity even exist? Or is it just a scam with an ironic pun added to it?

>>16828716
they gave me a plushy keychain of it

>>16828675
Hilarious being the only country on earth which developed orbit capability then abandonned it.
You have not felt real humiliation until you have been to the 'National Space Center'. It's crown jewel is an AMERICAN ICBM!!!

"For England James?"

>as many as 200,000 Starlink terminals are active in Ukraine, making the former Soviet republic by far the biggest user of Starlink services in Europe.

Getting pretty tired of these freeloader's constant bitching about equipment they don't even pay for.

>>16828751
none of the bad press would happen if musk didn't fast track giving them free terminals at the early stage of the war and instead stick to strict strict dod contracting framework
classic no good deed goes unpunished

>>16828737
SLAVE IS A KINO NAME.

Remember before the first New Glenn launch when bezos showed a tour of the factory, and GS1 was being cobbled together all fine and dandy in the horizontal warehouse, but GS2 had this insanely complex clean room? And that had to suit & boot just to go in there? Why does GS2 need all that

>>16828776
GS2 is heavily optimised, which means no gigantic filters like starship. so you cant have mexicans leaving gravel and bags of shit in the vehicle before launch.

>>16828780
Ahhh… thanks

>>16828780
@gork is this true

>>16828753
imagine if Atlas V used 4 RD-180s

>>16828797
imagine being a euro space fan

>>16828805
I do like the Ariane 6's auxiliary power unit

>>16828669
amazing

>>16828807
should be more french and bespoke

"Cor -- phoar!"

>>16828807
>>16828815

>>16828797
>According to the company, it will be capable of manufacturing more than 100 satellites per year
Wow!

>>16828823
i talk like this except i dont look like this. no girl has had sex with me in 10 years

>>16828823
How to eliminate bureaucracy from an org?

>>16828841
Apple and LEGO did it successfully. It takes the political will to cut down your own fat though. Just like how it’s easier for corporations to focus on shortsighted wins like instant quarter-to-quarter shareholder profit but then getting hammered with the cost of your negligence in long term sustainability a decade or two later (such as Xbox/microsoft currently driving itself in to the shitter) it’s hard for bureaucratic organizations to muster the ability to cut jobs and shitty pocket-lining bloat programs because it’s an instant political loss with returns not showing themselves until much later.

>>16828784
There have been suggestions

>>16828853
This but with BE-4s instead of the RD-180s

>>16828853
still gotta keep that srb and eus pork i see

maybe spacex should use their gorillions of dollars to invest into startups that want to put useful payloads into space. help spur demand. starship launches will have lots of room available.

>>16828865
good idea, dedicate 1 entire payload to quack science things like EmDr*ve and shiet

>>16828865
aka The Military

>>16828856
Probably couldn't fit an equivalent amount of BE-4s. The RD-180 is wide but also pretty thin. The Centurion only has a 6m diameter core, which isn't that much larger than the Vulcan's 5.4m, and 4 BE-4s is the absolute max you can fit into a circle that size.

It's look a lot better, though. Larger RD-180 clusters always end up looking like ass.

>>16828865
Low Earth orbit needs a dedicated cookie bakery, the ISS facilities are inadequate to meet demand.

https://x.com/SpaceflightNow/status/1982852381214937233
>SpaceX adjusted the launch time for the Starlink 11-21 mission. It's now scheduled to launch its Falcon 9 rocket from pad 4E at Vandenberg Space Force Base at 5:10 p.m. PDT (8:10 p.m. EDT / 0010 UTC).

>>16828751
Huh, so turns out whenever reddit calls for Starlink to be shut down because of astroonomers not being able to see the stars, they are also opposing Ukraine's efforts against Russia, good to know lol

>>16828275
This better?

>>16828865
they don't have a gorillion dollars, they just became cash flow positive a few years ago
starship and starlink capex are going to take a lot of money to setup still
and in any case, that doesn't seem to be Musk's modus operandi really
if he thinks there is some big useful payload market (like in-space manufacturing) that is big enough to matter, then they go into that themselves as well
if your idea is good enough for SpaceX to invest in it (but too far away from current operations or small/unimportant for Musk to do it himself), then it should be good enough for VCs to invest in it as well

>>16828895
by small I mean the potential market and unimportant is just what Musk thinks is important
one big thing he has mentioned at times that he thinks is going to be big and important but hasn't really gotten into it by himself, is genetic engineering

>>16828895
>if your idea is good enough for SpaceX to invest in it (but too far away from current operations or small/unimportant for Musk to do it himself), then it should be good enough for VCs to invest in it as well
thats what i meant. spacex VC fund.

>>16828895
>>16828897
That's why you don't run SpaceX.

>>16828897
why? I'm sure plenty of ex-SpaceX people have become VCs basically as a way to retire (one of the co-founders of xAI did that recently)
seems like Musk is basically all-in i.e. buys a company or creates a startup (as a standalone or inside one of his companies) and then tries to understand it deeply, micromanages it for a while until it has good operators and is running somewhat well
or does not get involved at all, he doesn't really "invest"

>>16828895
SpaceX spent ~26 billion or so on the recent acquisition of the band. A huge investment for the coming decades as it will expand its services into cellular domain.

>>16828910
They'll be launching a Starship equivalent too in a handful of years.

>>16828922
trust the plan gweilo

>>16828922
NET 2035 is a bit more than a handful, and that's just for the reusable (large) first stage. They're going to want to perfect their wire-catch system with the LM-10A before they make any serious commitment to it. The fully reusable version is penciled in for the early 2040s.

>>16828807
Cute! would rape!

>>16828807
I liked big mama Ariane 5 in a sundress better

>>16828888
very nice
干得漂亮
also those are very nice digits

>>16828922
>They'll be launching a Starship equivalent too in a handful of years.
Correct, with the data Zhuque-3 will provide and just looking at the progress Starship is doing, they will clone it in not time. It woudn't surprise me if they are alerady building in secret a compatible launch mount and tower.

But SpaceX is the one holding up the Moon landing...

>>16828931
Astrobotics has nothing to do with Artemis 2 or Artemis 3 and the venture of a flags & footprints manned mission so what is your point

In the remaining two and half months of this year, not one, but 5 different Falcon 8 clones are scheduled to launch.
https://x.com/dsshhh112/status/1952563542349250881

All Falcon 9 variations, space tech is about to dramatically improve in China.

>>16828784
I was sure I had seen a rocket design that used the RD-180s like that. Turns out it was the RD-180 clones on the old Long March 9 design.

>>16828931
Not again.... it is so hard to be a lunar south pole sister....

>>16828933
What about Artemis 5?

>Don't mention that one! That doesn't count okay!

>>16828922
lol, lmao even

>>16828936
A reminder that China's modern space program is dependent on Soviet tech they got from Ukraine.

>>16828934
Will they retire the village gasser rockets or keep doing that out of spite?

>>16828955
It's not the only thing they have received from Ukraine and they sided with russia anyway.
You can do business with them as long as you keep in mind to not trust them.

>>16828967
>You can do business with them as long as you keep in mind to not trust them.
Ukraine and many others could say the same about the US.

>>16828969
Yellow hands wrote this.

>>16828969
The USA is trustworthy, that doesn’t mean they’ll announce last second that they are altering the deal. But I don’t think it’s fair to say we are outright liars out of the gate like a chinaman or a slav in a suit would be

>>16828995
*doesn’t mean they won’t
I should say. You get what I mean hopefully

>>16828934
Over/under that at least one of them successfully lands before New Glenn?
inb4 50/50

schizodrive status?

>>16829053
Needs more funding

>>16829048
you forgot the possibility it happens at the same time
50/50/50

>>16829053
Mike writing an inspirational tweet about the valor and difficulty of testing as we speak

>>16829053
doubters roping.

>>16829086
wasnt it supposed to raise by 100km

ALSO WHERE IS MOVIE NIGHT???

you vs the guy she tells you not to worry about

>>16829104
As long no one is organizing a movie night, there wont be a movie night.

>>16829086
What even is the actual, practical design of a QI drive (yes ha ha besides tape outgassing)? How does Mike's new framework of physics propose you take electrons from a power source and somehow rig up a physical device to [supposedly] produce some sort of mystical net force? A direct drive seems like such a cool but unfeasible concept.

>>16828910
So no more starship launches until 2030? Sad.

https://grokipedia.com/page/SpaceX_Starship

grokipedia (0.1) is online
no pictures yet, about 800k articles

>>16829128
Unruh Effect

>>16829160
based and truthpilled

>>16829168
kek
I should've been a slop opinion writer on medium and reddit so I'd have an extraordinarily outsized influence on The Truth™ of the future

Ted Cruz masturbates to this

>>16829185
Do you not?

>>16829160
literally 1984, big brother, etc etc

>>16829168
*Hits the dedicated "It's wrong" button.*

>>16829185
The political “compromise” to killing gateway and ISS should be a continuously-funded and growing lunar surface colony

>>16829203
>ISS should be a continuously-funded
no reason to do this. ISS is a leaky ship and it has to come down some time. new stations will take it's place

>>16829207
Reread the post.

I was promised space materials years ago and I am yet to see them in use anywhere
Why aren't they making massive heat shields out of aerogel also

>>16829207
anon I...

>>16829216
“What is water?” asked the fish

>>16829217
>>16829209
ITS LATE I MISREAD SHUTUP

>>16829219
What is this solid foam in my water, asked the frog

>>16828910
I thought SS was too heavy for something smaller like an F9-sized rogget

>>16829226(me)
SS meaning 'stainless steel,' in this case

>>16829202
kek, based

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8L8qpE_iRQ
Time for more starlink, T-20:00

>>16829251
Elon has already succeeded at making this boring

>>16829255
enjoy starship while it lasts. it will be boring too someday

>>16829251
https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1mrGmBzBaOwJy

>>16829256
yeah, at least we have v4 to look forward to
how long do you think manned starship missions will be exciting? a couple of weeks?

>>16829260
when flights to the moon and mars become routine

probably find aliens before then though

>>16829261
yeah, but it's not like the whole flight will be exciting
unless they do a reality show or something with the astronauts fighting or fucking or getting voted out

max-qute

oh no not another boring falcon 9 starlink launch
change the channel change the channel

Nother wan

It's just that easy.

>>16829266
bouncy

>>16829278
Please, stop posting these.

>>16829281
I was actually getting bored of it anyway

*yawn*
well, nothing is happening now

https://x.com/Alexphysics13/status/1982980299345530939
>This launch has broken the turnaround record for this launchpad just two launches after the previous record was set. Previous turnaround record: 2d 18h 52min 20s, New turnaround record: 2d 10h 22min 59s. The previous record was set just last week and they've been able to bring down the turnaround time this time by a whole 8.5 hours. Just three hours away now from SLC-40's record

https://x.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1982984014437986800
>CAS-SPACE has completed work on the new launch pad dedicated to its Kinetica-2 rocket, which is scheduled for a debut flight by the end of the year.

>>16829290
>not reusable
we sleep

>>16829296
They have eventual plans for reusability. They also plan to land the three cores as a single unit.

>>16829298
is that last one a chinese new shepard? new liwei?

>>16829329
China killed it lmao

>>16829331
I'm dead on the inside. Did China do that, too?

>>16829329
This the one you were looking for?

>>16829335
是的。习惯这种感觉吧,gweilo。

>>16829342
Yes, yes. Ching chong to you, too.

I feel so stupid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N_%3D_4_supersymmetric_Yang–Mills_theory

>21st century
>man still hasn't created an anti-gravity engine
>we still rely on propulsion to leave this god forsaken rock

>>16829357
Maybe gravity just can't be overcome, only temporarily-defied

>>16829357
Aliens are actually offshoots of pre-deluge humanity, so we technically did, it was just a while ago

Elon btfo

>>16829362
Dude's just pissy for no real reason. He clearly doesn't want it to work, though.

>>16829362
It's not Elon he's making fun of

People seriously trying to convince VCs that launching a server room into space to run on solar power makes economic sense in any way are morons, and he's trying to describe WHY that is such a dumb idea in a "so the electrical power is free, but WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE" kind of way

>>16829377
>People seriously trying to convince VCs that launching a server room into space to run on solar power makes economic sense in any way are morons! They just are okay!

Fine. Since you know better, short the stocks of the companies investing in space servers. You can become the world's richest trans woman.

>>16829362
Larping as Will Hunting is an auto-lose for any argument.

>>16828352
I think there was a youtube doc about this. The launch complex was next to an urban area and there was a first stage thrust cutoff and windo shattering blast. The Chinese government gathered up all the western journalists and drove rhemnout of there, closed the city and tried to cover it up. There were apparently a lot of casualties both from the blast and the hypergolic fuel poisoning.

>>16829417
They're such fuckups.
The solution to the Fermi Paradox is that intelligent life is common, but white people are rare.

>>16828725
Ironically Russia is at serious risk of losing crew to orbit after ISS is deorbited and roscosmos has to operate without NASAs support. The R7 still accounts for most of their launches now that F9 took all of Protons commercial business.

>>16828955
Russia actually sold all of the Soyuz plans to China in the 90 after the USSR shit its guts out and Russia was going through the couch cushions looking for change. Shenzou is a direct copy. The Tiangong space station modules are Salyut clones.

It's over for the chinese.

>>16829417
You may be thinking of a different incident; pretty sure that webm is of the accidental Tianlong-3 "launch" last year which was supposed to just be a static fire test. It's a kerolox design rather than hypergolic and supposedly it crashed harmlessly into the hillside with no reported casualties, but that's of course only the official story so who knows. As the video shows it's still uncomfortably close to some residential areas.

>>16829452
this guy famously doesn't know what he's talking about either btw while acting like he's got inside info

>>16829452
Laptorbros, I don't feel so good...

So it was Alliums all along. They tried to warn us. Why didn't we listen?

>>16829216
Aerogel jackets are a thing. Though i have no idea they are robust in heavy use or just some meme.

We have just discovered an important note from Space
The Martians plan, to throw a dance
For all the Human Race...

>>16829383
I know you're trying to be glib but timing the market is always stupid unless you have solid insider information. Investors can be stupid far longer than you can be solvent. That doesn't remove the stupidity from the equation.

>>16829452
that rocket engine sure looks like a rocket engine

>>16829511
>Investors can be stupid far longer than you can be solvent.
Cope from sidelined investlets

>>16829499
holy crap!

>>16829168
I'm in the first of his argument and I've never heard musk say any of this, theres no sources for any of the stuff this guy claims musk said either. Is he just making this stuff up?

>>16829499
>disappeared as soon as the Soviet space program got going
The xeno fears the new soviet man

>>16829505
>heavy use
>aerogel
There's a joke here I'm just not quick enough to think of it

>>16829533
Nothing Silly Willy says is ever accurate. He's unemployed -- oh sorry he's a "writer" which is different -- and his entire grift is screaming every single day about how everything Musk does is a failure, and how Musk is also the most dangerous man in the world because of his success.

Will needs his bolts to have another few twists.

>>16829461
>the accidental Tianlong-3 "launch" last year which was supposed to just be a static fire test
1 of 0 launches
Infinite success rate
Asian parents proud

>>16829541
Oh he's the "sarcastic Brit" isn't he

>>16829543
Will is Gavrilo Princip in a No Guns country. Which is probably a good thing.

>>16829550
the same stuff that thunderfoot and CSS post but in article form instead of videos
every single thing Musk is doing is about to fail and Musk will go bankrupt in two weeks

>>16829557
Amazing that you can make money being a grumpy village geezer these days. That ole Musk is up to no good again. Nothing good will come of this i tell you.

>>16829567
lots of Musk haters out there I guess

>>16828460
This fucking monster scared the shit out of me for several years

>>16829533
>Is he just making this stuff up?
there's alot of that going around lately. i just read the top comment on some reddit thread that turns out was entirely bullshit, but everyone believed it anyway.
a lie spreads faster than the truth, and makes more money

>>16829533
Reading this is bizarre. this guy doesn't know anything about rocketry. The extra thrust from raptor 3 gets you maybe an extra 5 tons of payload to orbit? It's not a small improvement but it's not the make or break it this guy thinks it is. It seems he's not even aware that most of the improvement from raptor 2 to 3 is ditching the boosters engines heat shielding. That alone almost brings it to 100 tons of payload.

>>16829572
He's easy to hate. Too bad the future of spaceflight is so dependent on him.
>>16829567
We're in an attention economy. It's not just people like Phil Mason that make a living off of sniping at Musk's retardation layups. Currently obese black women are getting tons of hits on their "unlimited ebt card" videos that have no connection to reality but stir up anger attention that makes them money from views. As long as people are easily baited, baiting will continue.

>>16829615
Foundation.

>>16829362
>>16829377
SpaceX wins in the end.

>falcon 9 comes along
>people predict rise of industry LEO
>spacex scales up falcon 9 10X
>thousands of starlinks up
>making billions in yearly revenue

>starship comes online
>people predict rise of industry in LEO
>spacex scales up starship 10x
>tens of thousands of starliks up
>making tens of billions of dollars in yearly revenue

The winner who rises above the rest will be SpaceX because they just move faster, scale faster, and has ambitious goals. There wont be a "Mars Colonization" program. There will however be a "SpaceX Mars Colonization" program. The heart of the next wave of industry is SpaceX with 90% dominance over the entire space

https://x.com/TrevorScottReal/status/1982923090427629893
>The SpaceX mafia will be stronger than the PayPal mafia.

>>16829533
He doesn't even need to check the early life section anymore. He just knows how much thrust a rocket produces, completely on instinct.

>>16829550
The doompill grift must be easy pickings

>>16829507
>this looks like a UFO
>I can tell from some of the pixels and from seeing quite a few UFOs in my time

>>16829357
>still hasn't

we've had this since the 50s at the earliest

WTF IS THIS FROM NASA
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/20210021084
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/20210021084
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/20210021084

>>16829672
wtf is that picture and what kind of drugs produced it?
>three Starships welded together
>some random panels hung around them
>half of a SLS/Shittle tank
>two minivans with maneuvering thrusters
>other unidentifiable shit on the other side
>cargo module on the nose
Is it a Kerbal mod?

>>16829615
>no pics on grokipedia
its useless

>>16829678
its 0.1 retard

>>16829672
are we on the cusp of seeing large vehicles getting constructed in space?

>>16829679
>>16829678
Foundations

>>16829680
We are on the cusp of seeing large amounts of money going to projects with zero accountability that we may or may not see the results in 15~25 years.

>>16829677
Anyone can write such papers in the age of LLMs. It doesn't mean much at all without real hardware and prototypes.

>>16829678
Just ask Grok to make videos using the article as a prompt.

>>16829672
>Mars Human Landing
>2031

>>16829672
Using starships or something derived from the Starship design as a module for constructing a larger ship isn't a bad idea. Using the reusable, heatshielded version is, but it's got the spirit.

>>16829672
3 starships linked together

+ NASA specific modules

>>16829672
>centering on the "Common Habitat"—a repurposed Space Launch System (SLS) Core Stage liquid oxygen (LOX) tank transformed into a pressurized habitat
A political compromise

>>16829672
Wtf I love nasa now? Yjk jared will make it happen.

https://x.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1983177642909302836
>The Chinese commercial launch sector sees another new entrant, this one with a very aggressive timeline: a claimed maiden launch by the end of the year. What makes this notable is that they already have hardware, not just plans, with YF-102 kerolox engines supplied directly by CASC. This connection suggests a significant level of state supply chain access.

Now we're not only seeing China copying SpaceX, but China copying other Chinese companies. A 3.35M diameter kerolox rocket using state-procured YF-102 engines is just a clone of CAS-Space's Kinetica-2.

>>16829672
>multiple SLS launches to drag down Starship

>>16829717
too many launchers, they need more payloads

>>16829717
Actually not a complete clone! They're going to go with SMART reuse instead of booster landings. At this rate, they may actually recover engines before Tory does.

https://youtu.be/xyBz7hbEwxc
>reuse spent upper stages as habitats
why would you do this?

those staged have been there for decades sometimes they could hardly be considered mint condition

>>16829452
>>16829721
I am once again asking you to read the thread

>>16829724
they're still working on this? didnt they announce it like 5 years ago? its been a long time.

>>16829726
dunno but it seems ridiculous in the era of starship launching entire space stations with one launch

https://x.com/SpcPlcyOnline/status/1983173163744931866
>The White House announces that the Philippines and Malaysia signed the Artemis Accords, bringing the new total to 59.

>>16829732
china is bad at the geopolitics game

>>16829734
A lot of China's belt and road diplomacy is focused on countries that could give less of a shit about spaceflight. More than half of Africa couldn't even bother to join to UN's Committee on the Peaceful Uses of Outer Space, and that bar for membership there is essentially on the floor.

https://x.com/ISROSpaceflight/status/1983199307257000251
>LVM3-M5 is scheduled to lift off from the Second Launch Pad at 5:26 pm IST on 2 November!

The first stage of the Pallas 1 launch vehicle (flight model Y1) is installed on the HOS-1 floating test bench in Haiyang for a static fire in November. If succesful, an inaugural launch could happen in early 2026 from Jiuquan.

>>16829744
It'd be quite impressive if they can launch 2 LVM 3 by the end of the year.
But Gaganyaan isn't ready and I'm doubtful the Bluebird sat are too.

>>16829720
Theres way more payloads than launchers available in china right now, hence why all these companies are popping up.

>>16829756
once someone gets their own reusable rocket then they'll dominate the market

>>16829755
The best they've ever managed was two launches just over three months apart back in 2023, so a second launch this year would almost certainly be out. They just don't have the payloads for any kind of reasonable launch cadence.

starlink vs oneweb

>>16829775
Whats the download speed comparison?

>>16829672
Ultra based, we will visit Mercury.

>>16829672
But sciecne youtubers have said this is not possible??? I AM CONFUSED.

>>16829779
>My father-in-law is a rocket scientist. He is insanely gifted. We were looking at NASA PowerPoints together years ago and I asked him what it would cost to build a crewed Mercury mission today. I will never forget his answer…
>'We can’t, we don’t know how to do it."

>>16829128
In his own words: https://physicsfromtheedge.blogspot.com/2021/11/a-thrust-from-nothing.html

IVO Company made the switch from using photons or something to electrons

>Then Richard Mansell of IVO Ltd tried it with an analogue method and agreed with them. This new Mansell group has also blazed the path in innovation as well.

Breakthrough potentially imminent
>>16829086
https://x.com/RaMansell/status/1982630980759560595
>Quantum Drive tests are ongoing.

Anything different we see from OTP-2's TLE compared to other cubesats without propulsion is entirely from the quantum drive activation

Hold onto yer butts

>>16829793

>IVO Company made the switch from using photons or something to electrons
Found it, in the comments by Mike-
>Yes. The results are difficult to get out - journals are now refusing my papers. The results from the Dresden lab were negative, from the Spanish Lab positive, but with qualifications (I'm a bit sceptical). The results from capacitor tests in California and Virginia that I did not fund but helped with, have been successful and I think I now know why there is a difference. Electrons are a better acceleratand to use than photons. I thank all these labs for helping me see that. A space test has been discussed - that's all I can say at the moment.
>9 January 2022 at 09:53

What happens if Musk launches stone etched Grokipedia in space and in mars to preserve the human knowledge?

>>16829801
How will yeeting books into space protect from regression, if society regresses nobody will be able to go get them from space

>>16829803
its for after the dark age and when people are able to go to space again

>>16829672
That looks sick though. I'd fly it.

>>16829801
These things should have some extremely long lived RTG's to send out radar pings. Wouldn't do to just lose them.

>>16829810
Just laser the text directly into the surface of the Moon's Earth-facing side so people can read them from down here.

>>16829812
That'd work too and is much funnier.

>>16829810
Put enough microfiche in big shiny boxes and then anyone who is able to get into space again can find them, even if a few sites get meteored. Of course this depends on getting to space, which hasn't worked well for humanity in the previous half century.
Yeah, a transponder might be helpful and show up on SETI scans, but would probably break down before a couple of centuries.

Look how good KSA looks already

>>16829452
Lol chinksects are finished

>>16829818
we had games like that in 2010

>>16829821
This is procedurally generated from a heightmap of Earth. Right is new, left is old.

>>16829818
KSP2 looked pretty, too.

>elon gives you billions to prove that data centers in space arent a meme
could you do it?

>>16829823
>generated from a heightmap of Earth
good. keep it real scale then don't redditify it

>>16829812
>SpaceX launches Artemis 3 and does all things necessary
>They then bring down Starship back to the moon
>Optimus Robot comes out
>It writes down "SpaceX was here"
>Livestreams the entire thing on 4K with Starlink

>>16829826
Elon believes in datacenters in space to the extent that he believes in petawatt computers.
At some point of scale it is harder to do on earth than in space.
Like first you do natural gas power, then beyond that you need independent solar grid around your computer and beyond that you need to go to space.
He's completely delusional about AI timelines so he unironically thinks this will happen in a couple years.
"billions" is nothing in this context

starship sending truckloads of fuel to energy hungry orbital data centers

>>16829827
They're autistically remaking the Solar System so they have an accurate model, then they're going to use that data to make their own fanfic system like Kerbal. But we'll easily be able to swap it back to RSS because the Solar System is just a mod, like all other content in the game.

>>16829803
Put them on an orbit so that they crash into earth in a thousand years

>>16829803
Wait until humanity becomes spacefaring again.

>>16829831
>starlink constellation is impossible
>you cant just launch 10,000 of them in few yeras, its impossible
>starlink launches 10,000 starlink in 5 years

>>16829848
>you cant just launch 10,000 of them in few yeras, its impossible
oh, I remember those times. after things started getting real, the main criticism immediately switched to muh night sky and kessler syndrome lol

>>16829848
>reusing rockets doesn't actually make any economic sense
>you can't just strap boosters to a Falcon 9 and call it Falcon Heavy, it don't work like that
>you can't just launch thousands of satellites, it's not viable
What else, I guess "Starship is a scam" or something like that

we havent had a day this dead in weeks

>>16829873
The coomer scared away the work crowd

>>16829873
should I call sloppa anon?

>>16829888
He's the reason it's dead. People can't post here if their bosses are going to see that crap if they look over their shoulder.

>>16829890
Good. Wagies should suffer as much as possible.

>>16829890
>browsing esefgee during work hours
I kneel.

>>16829894
Wagies frequently work in the space industry.

https://youtu.be/gzdLdNRaPKc

>bro we can't go to mars the radiation will kill us

>>16829897
>making a video about a self evident fact that can be sufficiently explained in a short xeet
i will NOT be watching

>>16829896
no one in this general works in any industry related to spaceflight. And if they do, they should be WORKING.

>>16829895
When I worked "data security" at a data center, 80% of my time was browsing 4chan and X.
idk how I was still the top person there, lazy pricks

>>16829818
Looks like what I did in Terragen in 2005

>>16829717
>The Chinese commercial launch sector sees another new entrant, this one with a very aggressive timeline
They are not a brand new company. They were founded in 2023. However, they seem to have done near-zero self-marketing online.

FREE MONEY TIP
Take a position in $LUNR
then wait until Nokia info on 4g LTE news
could top $25 retard market keeps going up

>>16829761
I doubt that the Chinese gov would let a SpaceX type quasi-monopoly emerge in China. Not that there is any danger of that happening, since no company is far ahead of the pack. Furthermore, CASC's technology-sharing policy and the low level of vertical integration in the rest of the industry means new technologies and components rapidly diffuse throughout the industry.

>>16829939
nobody here has money to gamble on stonks

>>16829721
>Wtf are they doing over there lol the other two chinese FFSC engines are at least conventional more be4 style designs
How does this sentence make sense? BE-4 is not an FFSC engine.

Also, to my knowledge there are no pictures of Landspace's BF-20 powerhead, so I'm not sure how he came to that conclusion

>>16829939
>TIP
They usually do

https://x.com/Vincent_Ledvina/status/1983269499597189361
>Heads up! More chances for mid-latitude auroral displays tonight. Coronal hole effects are ramping up, and all we need is some decent Bz to create an expanded auroral oval and charge up substorm activity. I hope you all are enjoying these more informal space weather updates. I like recording them and having these dialogues with you all.
>Good luck tonight, everyone! Let’s cross our fingers for favorable space weather conditions.

Good luck to everyone that actually has clear skies

>>16829930
>yearly production 20 launch reusable liquid rocket production project
k

>>16829939
Timing the market means trying to predict when investments like stocks will rise or fall, so you can buy them cheap and sell them high to make quick profits.

It's a bad idea because markets are unpredictable. Nobody can consistently guess right. Even if you correctly time an event, like a big news announcement, you can't reliably time the market's reaction to it, which might go the opposite way you expect. Missing just a few good days can wipe out years of gains, and studies show that staying invested over the long term usually beats trying to outsmart the ups and downs.

>>16829951
I do, but the reason I have money to gamble on stonks is because I don't gamble on stonks.

>>16829672
From the JSC Brother that gave you the Orion parachutes:

https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/author/37085391000

Let's say he's motivated to find uses for the SLS.

>>16830017
It needs a good set of Intuitive Machines legs.

>>16830017
The first Mars landing will be without legs.

Apollo fecal bag sample return

>>16830030
Would be interesting to know how many microorganisms are still alive and to what the evolved.

>>16830049
living shit bacteria evolved into dried out, frozen dead shit bacteria

>>16830049
>and to what the evolved
We have India at home, anon.

>>16830049
wait does this mean india will win the terraforming race?

>>16830056
Space people should evolve to shit like rabbits and goats. It would be much easier to clean up.

>>16830056
On the moon, poop is stored in bags.

>>16830056
there's a hole in the side so you can touch the poop

>>16830064
If you eat healthy, you basically do better than that already.
Comes out clean in one piece. Minimal wiping required.

>>16830071
dry poop in humans is an indication of constipation
feces does dry in the rectum, but getting dry shit isn't healthy and means it was hanging out in there too long

>>16830056
Imagine getting a job at NASA and they make you astronaut shit inspector

>>16830056
Did they really have to shit and piss while sitting right next to eachother?

>>16830075
what do you think they do on dragon

>>16830056
Amazing

>>16830075
standard procedure requires maintaining eye contact while voiding

>>16830072
Not dry. Just not sticky.

>>16829930
航科技(苏州)有限公司 was founded in 2023, but it seems it's linked to 北京空间致航科技有限公司, founded in 2019, and one insider says this launcher has been in development since at least 2022, before the former's founding.

/sfg/ - /space feces general/

>>16830064
If you integrate with machines, you won't have to poop at all.

>>16830093
machines are a false god. you aren't supposed to live in this world forever.

>>16830094
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me..

>>16830098
flesh is temporary, consciousness is eternal

>>16830094
>you aren't supposed to live in this world forever.
Fuck off. Our goal in this existence is to colonize the entire cosmos, and manipulate the universe at our whim, eventually becoming God and living forever. The indomitable human spirit always wins.

>>16830102
>I want to remain in kindergarten forever!

There's a new Minecraft space mod in development that plans to turn the game into KSP

>>16830010
>Nobody can consistently guess right.
This is a meme. The market is somewhat efficient, not completely

>>16830111
if only the vintage story modding community was as active as the MC modding community. Mc really fucking sucks and doesn't deserve the popularity. fuck mojang and their lame dripfed updates

>>16830111
I'm too old for minecraft

>>16830127
doomer
>>16830129
boomer

He said the thing!

>>16830152
if you aint on grokipedia you aint exist

>>16830152
>several orders of magnitude

>>16830152
so 700 million articles at least if we are talking about breadth and the articles being 100x deeper (more videos? sounds kind of difficult to accomplish)
accuracy shouldn't really be a problem, just expand the pool of sources from the few leftist rags that are now allowed to be used to basically everything

you would think musk is smart enough not to fall for the "build your own" trap that libshits play on conservatives but here we are

strange considering he did the correct thing with twitter. direct capture is always more successful than offbrand alternatives that few will use. see: literally every twitter alternative.

>>16830152
https://grokipedia.com/page/SpaceX_ambition_of_colonizing_Mars

>>16829615
I wish he'd fund development of that 3D crystalline storage tech that's stuck in university lab hell

>>16829672
Quite based

>>16830188
oh yeah I forgot the fucking superman crystal shit is real sorta kinda technically

>>16829615
So literally an STC from Warhammer.

>>16829615
>all human knowledge

WHO THE FUCK CARES I WANT A COMPLETE ARCHIVE OF ALL THE MEDIA EVER PRODUCED (no porn). Kids of the future deserve to experience the joy of watching the Charlie Brown holiday specials and we sure as hell can't trust corporations to archive SHIT.

>>16830201
A Standard Technology Catalogue (sounds better than standard template construct) would be really neat. A set of engravings showing how to construct machinery, all the way from basic tools to advanced equipment and how to maintain it. Something a colony could take with them so they're more independent.

>>16830193
A holographic crystal that displays different pages of readable text as you illuminate it from different angles would make a pretty good long-term storage device.

>>16830152
I think I'll take wikiautists over made up AIslop

>>16830185
>build your own internet
Starlink
>build your own social media
X
>build your own wiki
Grokipedia
>build your own car
Tesla
>build your own AI
Grok

Works fine. We will enshrine Grokipedia as the main knowledge codex for the future of human civilization, after WW3 happens. Grokipedia will be the sole knowledge base remaining found on the Moon and Mars colonization process

>>16830234
this is the average caliber of post on this general now
it's completely over

WW3 cant happen soon enough and wipe out California, China, Russia and Europe.

https://x.com/blueorigin/status/1983340687086002571
>The second chapter of New Glenn’s story begins tonight at LC-36. Our NG-2 launch vehicle has arrived at the pad for integrated vehicle hotfire.

>>16830239
Vulcan Centaur XL

Reminder that if you're taking more than 30 months from development start to put a rocket on the pad in 2025 you're a dirty OLDSPACE

>>16830236
we won't be getting ww3. everyone said China would start ww3 in September and it didn't happen.

we will get aliens instead

>>16830250
It's never aliens. No matter how much I wish it was.

>>16830255
too bad you are gonna get aliens and you will like it.

https://x.com/raz_liu/status/1983114028521324774
>Pallas-1's first stage was lifting onto the HOS-1 preparing for the first stage static fire test.

>>16829895
I'm a construction inspector. 80% of the time I'm sitting in my car jacking off.

>>16829915
Fun program.

>SETI AI finds Aliums
>But doesn't tell us...

>>16830279
aliens are going to murk us when they find out we're fucking around with thinking machines

>>16830279
AI will just hallucinate aliens

>>16830293
The UAPs are actually humans from an ancient breakaway civilization, and every instance of civilizational collapse on earth has been caused by Abominable Intelligence

>>16830279
Why do we call everything AI now, what happened to “neural networking”? Is it the same thing

>>16830297
That doesnt sell graphics cards

>>16830297
ai is made of multiple techniques including neural nets

>>16830295
Things get weird when you build bodies for the gods to inhabit. Current-day "AI" is the first step on the way to us building those bodies again.
I don't think things will happen the same way twice though.

>>16830310
I think if we make a body for God it should have autocannons for arms and rocket feet.

>>16830152
It will get tossed in the trash just like X TV and X/Grok android app

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIONXPbIkVo <--- Interesting video

>>16830302
nice ballistic missile jeff

>>16830111
This is Create Liftoff, right? The mod for a mod that's being headed by a literal child and after like 3 years they still have nothing to show for it.

>>16830297
stock market buzzword, even regular ass algorithms got slapped with the ai sticker. I actually hope it crashes soon so money actual goes to useful AI research (robot software and medical) and not obvious scams like builder.ai

>>16830299
>ai is made of multiple techniques including neural nets
Source?

>>16830395
read a fucking book nigger

>>16830395
Ask Grok

So was anyone actually held accountable for the Shittle and its consequences?

>>16830419
It was ruled to be pilot error (both times)

>>16830408
K, read dante's divine comedy. Now answer the question, faglord.

>>16830426
you want me to give you a intro to AI or what are you asking here?

>>16830419
It was soccer mom approved so never going to happen.

What space books should I read that are retard-friendly?

>>16830453
The Right Stuff

>>16830453
possibly a picture book

>>16830453
I don't think there's ever been a real space book. Every book I know whas been written on earth

>>16830347
The comment review story is pretty funny. I imagine most of government contracting is like this, but not being involved with actually designing and constructing a space capsule it's less obvious.

>>16825075 (OP)
WTF this so HUGE!

>>16830476
wow, this is pretty smart, why has no one done this before?

>>16830347
Wow, just got to the part where he's making a complaint to the NASA ethics investigator. I can just picture the Sheboon screaming "Oh well! Oh well! Oh well!" as he's complaining about having his career destroyed. Kafkaesque.

>>16830453
/sfg/

>>16830347
>NASA, DEI, fraud and the failure of Orion

>>16830480
Cuz im not in charge

>>16830297
because it's Actual Indians

>>16830429
imagine seeing this as it first dropped. no wonder people thought star wars was plausible back then. this basically alien tech to them.

maybe im too tired to post this morning

>>16830502
How did Microsoft even fall for this?

>NASA's experimental X-59 supersonic "low boom" plane makes its first maiden flight
Everyone and their grandma is making new shiny rockets
Yet almost nobody is making new supersonic (civilian) planes
Curious

>>16830510
it wasn't that long ago when it was illegal to fly over land with supersonic civilian planes in the US
now I think its legal, but has to be done in a way so no sonic booms happen at the ground, which decreases the top speed (I think depending on the weather somewhat)
lower top speed decreases the utility of a supersonic plane

SpaceX showed that the delta between what is and what could be is pretty large, there isn't really any existence proof like that with respect to supersonic civilian planes yet

>>16829890
False, the whole gag depends on clicking on the video first. If you don't want to watch AI booty... you simply wouldn't click on it.

I won't ask you the breakfast question because I know how you'd answer if I did.

>>16830480
>>16830476
In order to achieve a small degree of nominal reusability it became necessary to... add more expendable components

>>16830535
Sunrise, spacecraft is now visible

>>16830553
I want the jaxa HTV-X windbreaker

Admit it, space is 'fool's gold'

>>16830562
What does this even mean, I don’t get the point of the comparison

With HTV-X1's arrival the ISS's docking ports will be 7/8ths occupied.

>>16830569
wonder how commercial stations will fair

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPUktgtntys
Clear's up, if you want something other than the official commentary

>>16830562
All that glitters is gold
Only shooting stars break the mold

>>16830564
kind of a weird title but tl;dr very few of these grand plans will materialize

HTV-X is heading back into shadow. Next dawn will be in ~45 min.

>>16830571
Didn't know that Mercedes is in the space business too.

>>16830622
I didn't know the Japanese had invented a cloaking device.

>>16830626
That's the bit the arm is going to grab to berth the spacecraft

Are her streams all this exciting?!

>>16830643
Okay this joke has run its course bud

>>16830643
saved

>>16830643
should have been sheer panties

>>16830584
She's streaming from the room next to operation room in JAXA

>>16830653
How is her real face not leaked yet?

>>16830666
What do you mean?

>>16830666
calm down, satan

wake me up until artemis 4 in 2150 AD

PUTIN:

You have probably heard that a new, the newest missile with unlimited range and a nuclear propulsion system has been tested recently. It has undeniable advantages, and we can be proud of the achievements of our scientists, specialists, engineers and workers who made it all happen.

The advantages are that this small nuclear propulsion system, with comparable power to, say, a nuclear submarine reactor, is a thousand times smaller than a nuclear reactor on a submarine – a thousand times! But the most important thing is not even that – the most important thing is that while a conventional nuclear reactor takes hours, days or weeks to start up, this nuclear reactor starts up in minutes and seconds. That is a huge achievement.

We will be able to apply this in the national economy, we will be able to apply it in the future when solving the problem of energy supply in the Arctic, and we will use it in the Lunar programme. Even now, radiation-hardened electronics used in the Burevestnik missile are already being used in space programmes, so this is a breakthrough not only in terms of enhancing the country's defence capabilities, but also in science and the national economy of the future as a whole.

>>16830688
I am really looking forward to Russian NTRs.

>>16830495
>>16830347
Yeah it sounds more like he was just a shit engineer making excuses

>>16830569
>shows the old HTV graphic
They need to update their models

>>16830693
They have undeniable expertise with compact reactors in the low megawatt range, not sure if they're going ahead with the NEP though :(

>>16830510
>private company beats them by almost a year
Even though it does work it will run into the same problems as Concord, economics. The cost of the plane will be much more expensive for commercial travel that it might only have some sort niche use cases or military. They already reduced the planned speed to 1.7 Mach so it doesn't even lower travel time by that much.
Maybe low boom technology might work if there's another material science break through

>>16830697
Considering that the most recent site update was in February and the one before that was in April of 2023, I don't think it's a big priority. The site's been around since 2006, the guy's probably off enjoying retirement.

>>16830584
>Clear also scored a massive collab with the biggest vtuber agency in Japan to talk about the launch and the JAXA cover of one of their songs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbbUetz5IpE
How does our girl just keep winning

>>16830701
Boom's is only 1:3 scale thoughever

>>16830688
I'm sure it complicates defense but it seems pretty vulnerable. It's a chonky cruise missile. Not a reentry vehicle going multiple digits of mach that even Israel has to kneel to. If you're a sophisticated adversary gearing to deal with subsonic drone spam this falls almost into the same category.
If you want to utilize its greatest asset, range, you better hope your enemy is blind since they take multiple hours to reach their target.

>>16830696
capture confirmed!

>>16830710
So is the x 59 retard

>>16830704
WTF Hololive collab?

>>16830423
>>16830429
democracy moment

>>16830713
I don't see space station tourism being a thing honestly. at least not until they get large enough that starship docking won't kill their ability to maneuver and do stationkeeping

lift off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciAL6B1TrvI

>>16830729
their next station's core module might be able to handle it since its as wide as starship

Why is Nippon making more progress in their spaceflight than great EVROPA?

Buzz died :(

Wait nevermind it was just his wife, phew
Sorry to startle you all.

>>16830741
His wife died

https://x.com/SpaceIntel101/status/1983576208907305461
>And a successful landing! That was quite something, as the shadow of the booster was clearly visible in the bright sunlight as it approached the barge.

>>16830741
FAKE NEWS
Twas his wife…

>>16830741
Uhm... actually it was his wife.

japanese nbattery withvw wigns doncked to the International Space Station attached to the Canadarm end effector before capture and berthing later today

I can't give details, but the IVO QI Quantum Drive is definitely thrusting. I have collected a lot of data on it now. Need more data to be sure it is QI.

>>16830762
You alright there, bud?

honda is building rockets now?

>>16830778
The Imperial Japanese Space Empire begins now.

>>16830778
And? Mitsubishi makes cars and rockets.

>>16830739
If you look at the US playbook, they tap their automotive suppliers in the 60s to keep costs low
Japan does it too
India doesn't really have an automotive industry to draw from and Europe's are all outsourced and can't be bothered

>>16830742
Rare instance of a dude outliving his wife

>>16830778
Old news.

>>16830789
I think he’ll be gone from us soon. Most spouses at this stage usually die very close to the passing of a loved one :(

https://x.com/ExploitExpert/status/1983557229040275602
>New photos of Honda's reusable rocket. The grid fins are indented inside of the booster. It looks like the second stage is reusable as well, as you can see the lines of the landing legs.

>>16830796
Does that mean most millennials will live longer?

>>16830798
>The grid fins are indented inside of the booster
That's worse than NG in terms of added complexity with very little gain.
I don't see this project lasting long

>>16830798
lmao the gridfins are just a texture on that render

>>16830798
glad to see someone is trying to innovate

>>16830693
you should stick to Japanese NTRs

>>16830811
>Japanese NTRs
don't forget to look up images of them

>>16830798
Good, more powerpoints, that'll teach enron mustard.

>>16830814
hey japan is at least launching things

>>16830476
I'm now so buckbroken by bike slopper that I was the whole time mentally prepared for ass shot transformation that never came

https://x.com/michaelsrockets/status/1983567691857207317
>raptor 3 flowing

>>16830817
SAME LMAO

His reign of terror is truly something

>>16830817
don't summon that son of a bitch

>>16830796
I was going to post this earlier, but I didn't want to jinx it. Now I can blame you.

https://x.com/HTVX_JAXA/status/1983397351193751983
>First public release of footage captured by the onboard camera of HTV-X1, showing the solar array paddle deployment! It spread its wings wide! Unlike the "Kounotori," it features deployable paddles that were not present before. Power generation has been increased to supply electricity to cargo and technology demonstration mission equipment This data was acquired through test radio waves for communication verification of "HTV-X."

>>16830835
safe

Your spaceflight enthusiasts bro

>>16830798
>The grid fins are indented inside of the booster.
For what purpose?

>>16830814
yeah, they should give a "technical presentation" next just like he did

MOVIE NIGHT WHEN????

>>16830272
Hell, work stops during the winter so I dont have anything to do and I still get paid :P

>>16830820
flight engines!

>>16830844
this ideology is a fucking virus and no one can prove otherwise. all it does is spread far and wide, infecting everything it can, subverting and corrupting all aspects of life. If I was religious I would call it the work of satan. hell, they probably say the same thing to themselves in secret.