Thread 16831319

>our equations for gravity do not work
>perhaps our equations are wrong?
>nah they cant be, it must be le spooky dark matter!!

defend this bullshit

that would make your equations wrong either way, though

>>16831319 (OP)
The postulation of dark matter is precisely there because physicists recognize that their equations are wrong, you dumbfuck.

>>16831319 (OP)
Lambda CDM will eventually suffer the same fate

> our equations for gravity do not work
prove it.

>>16831319 (OP)
So you just woke up and chose mundanity.

>>16831319 (OP)
dark matter, like the Big Bang, is a purely mathematical construction.
it's born out of the extrapolation of the existing models, which aren't "perfect," but are the best we have so far at capturing the phenomena that we can observe.

there's no Literal big bang and there's no Literal dark matter. you just don't understand what those concepts actually mean.

>>16831485
Please explain the big bang thing in more detail. Didn't the universe expand from a very dense state?

>>16831491
Black holes are toothpaste tubes being overfilled to the point the toothpaste squirts out the other end into a new toothpaste universe.

>>16831485
>but are the best we have so far
no they aren't, they're the most politically correct theories. astroshit isn't any different from any other so-called science, they theories that get accepted do so on the basis of political correctness and not matching up with observed data.
dark matter is accepted because it's needed to maintain the reputation of st. einstein the soiyence god of the atheists and the big bang is accepted because its an atheist rewrite of the early part of the book of genesis

its no different than science accepting the 1488 genders theory out of political correctness or denying racial or gender IQ differences for political correctness reasons. the out of africa theory is still officially supported despite ample evidence disproving it because the theory is part of a political ideology based on humanity being a single species. there are endless examples of science subverting itself to achieve political correctness and no examples of political correctness altering itself to dovetail with scientific observations.

>>16831587
you retarded nigger faggot dark matter isnt "accepted" dark matter is a placeholder for our absence of knowledge

you probably dont even know what relativity says you retard

>>16831319 (OP)
>>16831319 (OP)
>defend it

All you're bitching about is the fact that science was formerly a hobby and is now for the most part a career on which livelihoods depend. It is in the hobbyist scientific community that the scientific ideals you're describing flourished. Obviously. these ideals no longer apply.

Change occurs rapidly in hobbyist environments because the stakes are low and the social organization is flat.

The same was true of your churches, where in the beginning there was a much wider interpretation of Jesus's teaching when Christians were tent makers and fishermen and tax men and merchants.

Once a professional priesthood grew up doctrine quickly solidified.

What you're describing isn't a science problem its a people problem (and also why it is essential to gatekeep your hobbies and resist all attempts at commercialization with violent force).

>>16831587
Do you have a better theory than relativity anon?

>>16831319 (OP)
>force of gravity extends outwards from a massive body following a 200 order polynomial-exponential law
>it extends isotopically but there are things in the universe we don't understand

>>16831587
>election tourist retards are even in /sci/ now
its all so tiresome

>>16831319 (OP)
Söycademics making shit up like always
and they get paid in taxes that universities get

Modern Science is fucking pathetic, its fucking sad, its just religion for atheists.

>>16832238
Complex numbers are integral to signal theory, without them you literally wouldn't be able to post that bullshit to the world

>>16832238
>t. high school drop out

>>16832241
nigga level intelligence lol, how are imaginary fucking numbers necessary for matter to have existence? lmao literally kill yourself.

Math came from matter, not the other way around. We quantify because there is matter to be quantified and the concept of numbers came from the observation of matter and its quantity. No the world of pure mathematics where pure numbers are floating around doesn't exist. Period. Done. Debate's over. Matter over Math. Math is for faggots. Matter is eternal. Simple as.
Consider yourself pwned faggot.

>>16832262
>t. religious mathemagics gaytheist

>>16832263
When the fuck did I say that you idiot. I'm talking about the technology you are using, which complex numbers played a part in designing

>>16832265
"le technology"
so what OP image is saying they are so retarded they dont even know how gravity even works at a atomic, sub atomic level and instead of admitting they are wrong they just push trough and pretend they are right out of pride with wrong theoretical premises.

This is true, this is the problem with modern science stubborn redditor mathemagix fags
for a better scientific community it would be best if they all killed themselves tomorrow, their retarded stubbornness is dragging real science down

>>16832266
So you think they designed wifi, cellphones, nukes, jet fighters, and computers without a good grasp of mathematics and physics. Please kill yourself

>>16832263
>I am schizophrenic and believe I sound intelligent

they designed wifi with copper cables and silicon, they designed nukes with plutonium and uranum and later hydrogen, they designed jet fighters with steel, fuel oil and thrusters and an engine.

Yes, mathematics is secondary as fuck. Matter is essential. Go quantify your physical lack of bitches faggot lmao. Please kill yourself

>>16832277
holy kek

please do not tell people to end their lives, it makes you look bad

>>16831325
>>16831485
>>16832097
>modern science is based on faith
many such cases

>>16832374
No, but there is a distinction between science and the religion of science, in identical way in which your biblical Jesus was distinct from religion, which is something many of your church fathers critiqued. Actually Jesus himself’s main point in the Bible is to be critical of “religion” - the system which grew out of the mosaic laws and became hypocritical and decontextualized.

>>16832238
ultimately the atheists worship the politicians who decide what narratives the scientists are allowed to promote. the scientists are just low level priests in the atheist religion, the politicians are the higher power.

>>16832374
The very concept of reality is based on faith. You've made no point.

>>16831587
This is some impressive brainrot. So let me get this right. The allegedly politically correct model of physics, which has been a dominant model for nearly a century, across all political domains, is now under attack by the current political regime because it is ... *checks notes* politically correct? You are literally dumber than a chimpanzee

>>16834068
your only upset because you don't seeing it pointed out that your belief in the orthodox conventional belief system is a necessary side effect of your social cowardice and has nothing to do with rationality

>>16831491
maybe it did, or maybe it fucking didnt because its accelerating for no reason

genuinely why do so many people not realize theres no fucking measurement of these things, the big bang and dark matter are merely theories to explain phenomena

theres many ways the cmb and movement of the galaxies could be completely unrelated to dark matter and the big gang bang

>>16832300
literally it was the work of actual scientists refining uranium and testing neutron moderators and measuring its energy output that made the math feasible for building a bomb. why do you think that retard was playing with the demon core in the manner he was????

see heisenberg and the kraut nuclear scientists were too busy being gay and lazy that they had literally convinced themselves you uranium couldn't be fissile, because they spent so much time heads up their ass about theory instead of fucking making observations and logging data

>>16834243
>your belief in the orthodox conventional belief system is a necessary side effect of your social cowardice and has nothing to do with rationality
Because of the limited brainpower, lackwits also like to presume that memorizing textbook "facts" is a shortcut to being smart, while in reality being smart is like being tall, it has a lot to do with genetics and most people just don't have the potential to get there. Those that were born without that potential still want to achieve it and unlike being tall, being smart can be faked to a substantial degree simply by memorizing and always agreeing with the conventional wisdom which was originally developed by genuinely intelligent people. Doing that goes a lot further than high heeled shoes does.

>>16831319 (OP)
it isn't just gravity that predicts nigger matter. there are a lot of fields that do too, such as cosmology. the observations on the cosmic microwave radiation background are only consistent with current models if you add nigger matter to the composition of the universe in the early moments after the big bang. the amount of nigger matter that exists on the universe is the same if calculated by both methods, it's properties are the same too (cosmology requires that this extra matter can't interact with light, or else the observed background would he different), etc
Cosmology is just an example, there are like 4 or 5 theories that require nigger matter to exist. And they all agree on how this nigger matter must be. Without it, most modern theories of the universe would collapse

trade offer
>change equations to account for inconsistencies without introducing dark matter
in return for
>a dozen other things you can't explain now, introducing even more inconsistencies

>>16839407
I can do the first part without introducing the 2nd part.

>>16832606
>Actually Jesus himself’s main point in the Bible is to be critical of “religion”
What a fucking retarded thing to say.

The missing mass is tied up in the higher emergence that the galaxies stars combined together form, in the same way that electrons and photons form atoms.
The atom is not a single individual electron, or photon being transferred, or the nucleus, but the emergence of the combination of all of them together.
The Galaxy is the emergence of all of the stars and gasses, planets, their asteroid fields, rings, each possessing their own individual gravity's interacting all together.
The galactic core is creating/building/manufacturing galactic pathways to other galaxies.
They then form local groups, which they themselves then connect together to other local groups to form larger super clusters.
The connections are physical, and require material/mass/matter.
The missing matter is tied up in the higher emergence observation layer.
Also the connections between all of the individual stars within the individual galaxies.
It's building something....fucking massive.

>>16840846
hmmm, no you can't~