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Anonymous No.16833578 [Report] >>16833585 >>16833586 >>16833675 >>16833722 >>16834103 >>16834166 >>16837658 >>16837693
Why can't we just clone this thing?
Anonymous No.16833585 [Report] >>16833602 >>16833708 >>16833765 >>16834362
>>16833578 (OP)
even if we can, then what? you can resurrect a species with a single specimen
Anonymous No.16833586 [Report]
>>16833578 (OP)
because you don't live in a gay hollywood faggot soiyence fiction movie
Anonymous No.16833602 [Report] >>16833677
>>16833585
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Anonymous No.16833675 [Report]
>>16833578 (OP)
Would
Anonymous No.16833677 [Report] >>16833758
>>16833602
imbrediception

to be contundered.
Anonymous No.16833708 [Report]
>>16833585
If you have 10,000 of these running around and you replenish the stock every so often do you even need females?
Anonymous No.16833722 [Report] >>16834104 >>16834687 >>16837713 >>16837757
>>16833578 (OP)
Cells have DNAses and RNAses that break down nucleic acids. These are mostly in the cytosol ensuring mRNA turnover, and defense against viral DNA. The DNA in the nucleus is protected by the lipid bilayer. However, over time the nucleus and generally cell boundaries and compartmentalisation break down, and DNA disintegrates.
Soft tissue may remain, but there will be little intact DNA. Still, there may be enough DNA in the bones to reconstruct a full genome.
The problem with cloning is you also need an intact oocyte. We can't yet make those, and even if we could, we don't know what maternal mRNA it would contain. Maternal mRNA drives much of early development, and so without it, without knowing what was there in what concentration, there is no real way of recreating the process.
We could use the egg of the nearest living relative, and insert the chromosomes, and we may get something similar, which could have eggs that have the correct maternal mRNA, which could lead to the next generation of clones to be more close to the original.
So the question remains. Why the fuck would we do this, who would pay for it, and what retard would spend years of their life doing it?
Pic not related.
Anonymous No.16833758 [Report]
>>16833677
We're cloning. Breeding was never an option.
Think, man!
Anonymous No.16833765 [Report] >>16834747 >>16837758
>>16833585
Yes. Just copy the x chromosome over twice.
If the bird is male.

If the bird is female and it will be more challenging, and a Y chromosome will have to be generated.
Anonymous No.16834103 [Report]
>>16833578 (OP)
The technology for cloning birds doesn’t exist yet. Laying eggs presents a bit of an issue for implanting a fertilised embryo into a surrogate
Anonymous No.16834104 [Report]
>>16833722
>Why the fuck would we do this, who would pay for it, and what retard would spend years of their life doing it?
With proper marketing, KFD could become an good investment for NBA players.
Anonymous No.16834166 [Report] >>16834463 >>16834687
>>16833578 (OP)
Because no one will fund it. You can most likely use an emu egg and just replace all the placenta equivalent with donor tissue from a pigeon relative, and implant a dodo embryo into that (created from a pigeon ova with printed/cloned Dodo DNA).
Imagine having these in your city instead of pigeons, woud be epic.
Anonymous No.16834362 [Report]
>>16833585
Just sloppily copy it a bunch of times so you get genetic diversity.
Anonymous No.16834463 [Report]
>>16834166
Plenty of people will fund it. It’s already happening with those colossal grifters who edited a few genes in a wolf and called it a dire wolf after stealing billions in funding
Anonymous No.16834687 [Report]
>>16833722
>>16834166
people fund all sorts of retarded things. this could be a one off like the sheep they cloned a while back
Anonymous No.16834747 [Report]
>>16833765
Birds use ZW sex determination
Anonymous No.16837658 [Report] >>16838920
>>16833578 (OP)
Why cant we clone holocaust survivors .. oh I forgot, there are no leftovers. Sad.
Anonymous No.16837693 [Report] >>16837694
>>16833578 (OP)
And profit how?
Anonymous No.16837694 [Report]
>>16837693
exotic pets?
Anonymous No.16837713 [Report]
>>16833722
>Why the fuck would we do this
So we can slaughter them to extinction again! DUUUUH!
Anonymous No.16837757 [Report]
>>16833722
>Why the fuck would we do this
DoDo Burger
Anonymous No.16837758 [Report]
>>16833765
>x chromosome
>birds
A 4chan level ornithologist

I kneel
Anonymous No.16838589 [Report]
Its against bird law
Anonymous No.16838845 [Report]
No birds of any kind have been cloned yet; apparently the way their egg forms makes it a lot harder than working with mammals.
Anonymous No.16838920 [Report]
>>16837658
>Why cant we clone holocaust survivors .. oh I forgot, there are no leftovers. Sad.
imagine creating a new species: half Adolf Hitler, half holocaust survivor