Thread 16840716

AI is not good enough to implement complex projects on its own. But it follows instructions and implements smaller tasks better than junior developers.

1 senior developer + 9 junior developers = 1 senior developer + AI

That's why big tech is firing EVERYONE.

>>16840716 (OP)
The writing was on the wall for a few months now.

>>16840720
Amazon and Walmart

>>16840722
IBM

>>16840716 (OP)
>"AI will replace someone in Two More Weeks" says increasingly nervous AI scammer for the 6,000,000th time in the last 5 years

>>16840720
You're not doing your handlers any favors by posting this spam on boards that I happen to browse.

>>16840725
>tech corpos betting on a dead end tech and being forced to scale down their operations after sub-zero RoI means its working

>>16840716 (OP)
Those "junior developers" must be brainless retard morons.
>>16840720
I call that bullshit, they are cheating using 1000+ agents. On top of that those problems are too idealized, too close to the beauty of Math, and far away from the ugliness of the human condition.

>>16840734
>those problems are too idealized, too close to the beauty of Math, and far away from the ugliness of the human condition.
To the contrary: they are formulaic and predictable just like every benchmark """AI""" excels at, reflecting a sad reality about the human condition.

>>16840716 (OP)
what's astonishing is how short sighted it is to remove the path to becoming a senior dev

>>16840731
Old garbage. ARC-AGI has been solved. 80% accuracy has been achieved using GPT-5(high).

Amazon Turkers could only achieve ~60% accuracy.

They've moved on to ARC-AGI 2, where humans are currently still ahead.

>>16840749
>using GPT-5(high)
Clarification: Not by GPT-5(high), but my a system that queries GPT-5(high) repeatedly.

>>16840716 (OP)
>But it follows instructions and implements smaller tasks better than junior developers.
As a developer I would agree. It's speed is astonishing and time saving. Quality is various, but it grows over time.

>>16840734
>Those "junior developers" must be brainless retard morons.
Oh yes, they are. Software Development today has little to do with Computer Science or even math. It's merely a basic logic and ability to plug lego blocks into each other.

>>16840748
>what's astonishing is how short sighted it is to remove the path to becoming a senior dev
It won't. Given nothing changes, seniors will become rare (due to natural decay lol) and the salaries will grow. This will motivate people to study programming longer: up to 10 years maybe, to become senior at start.

>>16840716 (OP)
>>16840720
this shit is so retardedly fake and gay
it's so fucking retarded how much "we" are investing in this dosghit
we are circling the fucking drain

>>16840716 (OP)
Yawn

>>16840733
This table is only a year old, but is already very outdated (Kaggle ARC 2 just finished, by the way)

But ARC is also somewhat unnatural for LLMs -- 2D images encoded as ASCII text?

Actual computer code is where the money is, and it's also where LLMs are beating humans on the market.

>>16840768
>people to study programming longer: up to 10 years maybe, to become senior at start.
that's not how it works at all

>>16840768
>seniors will become rare (due to natural decay lol)
Why should private businesses pay to educate the workforce? Let's say I (a tech company) pay $1M to train you for 10 years (by paying you $100K/year until you are useful). What's stopping you from moving to a new employer when your training is finished?

This is a theoretical discussion anyway, because AI will take over long before current senior devs all retire.

The future is Software as a Saarvice and no white madarchod can stop what will needfully commence.
Superpower 2030! We are going to have so many white servants my basterds!

>>16840731
>handlers
LOL
Forgot to take your meds again?

>>16840798
Guy with a PhD and postdoc in software development and 1 billion lines of code generated by AI= senior developer

>>16840731
If AI can outmode people at 100IQ, there goes more than half of western populations.

Around 50% of western populations already take more in welfare than given in taxes, meaning half the population cannot currently sustain itself.

Eugenics was the kindest solution. Now nature will take it's course and cause the extermination of billions. Gotta love leftist harm-avoidance idiocy.

>>16840937
gotta love capitalist short-term profit-maximizing idiocy

>>16840937
>100IQ
No one with below 120 IQ should be allowed to touch computer code of any kind. 100 IQ is AVERAGE (as in, someone who may or may not have gone to Devry)

>>16840937
>it's course
Argh... opinion discarded

>>16840716 (OP)
>Fire all junior developers
>They never develop skills because they are ending up wagecuckin at Amazon
>20 years forward
>"Why is everything falling apart where are specialists!!!!"
Those companies have no idea how much harm they will cause themselves in not so distant future

>>16840716 (OP)
And then the senior developer dies and there is no one left to replace him.

>>16840979
How about this: You take a team of
1 senior dev and 9 junior ones, and you fire 8 juniors. This is what's really happening.

>>16841008
That's not what I'm personally seeing. It's more like they are not hiring new juniors and training all their exist devs on AI. Any that can't or refuse to learn are the ones being fired.

>>16841008
investors are throwing every single spare cent into this ai shit
there is no plan for what happens after, it's just short term profits
wtf is the point using ai to replace people to make your business "more efficient" if no one has any money to purchase your goods or services
it's so short sighted it's infuriating
i hope people in charge of our economy get lynched

>>16841015
If America stops innovating, other countries will leave it in the dust.

>>16841015
That's late game capitalism for you. Investors want growth but when no more growth is possible this is what happens.

is there a single company that has actually improved with an indian CEO?

>>16841037
Google stock went up 10x since Pichai became CEO.

>>16841041
i'm not asking if the stock went up, i'm asking if the company is better

>>16841045
Stock going up means the company got better (in the opinion of the monied elite, at least)

>>16841037
Microsoft.

>>16841094
you mean the company that destroyed their entire gaming division and thus american influence and soft power in the video game industry? the company which is rapidly losing market share in software because everybody is sick and tired of their greedy business practices? the company that hasn't made an innovative and high quality product in over a decade and is relying entirely on price gouging its consumers? that's your pick for a company that has gotten better over time?

>>16841037
the problem is capitalism lol, ceos are incentivized to pay their workers as little as possible and automate everything they can so they can fire as many people as possible, that and outsourcing

>>16841037
the problem is capitalism lol, ceos are incentivized to pay their workers as little as possible and automate everything they can so they can fire as many people as possible, that and outsourcing, you mean to tell me that only indians are capable of automating jobs, and that no white person has ever tried or will try to automate a job to cut costs, in china they have state owned corporations, you need to regulate Ai, automation and outsourcing, something that maybe would have happened if trump wasnt elected president because he is super corrupt and hes constantly taking bribes, the other option is to start state owned companies, because state owned companies could pursue the interest of the state and the common man, and reconciliate that will being profitable, instead of catering to 5 people and fucking up everyone else

>>16841112
gaming is not where the money is at, its called the AI bubble, not the gaming bubble, big corporations dont have to innovate because they can simply acquire smaller companies, consumer wellbeing is not their objective, they simply want to make more money, nothing they do will take them under.

>>16841112
You mean the company that has completely turned around their Azure cloud division and completely turned around their image in the eyes of developers and sysadmins by becoming a massive Linux supporter. As if gaming matters to their share price or company wide profits.

>>16841138
>microsoft became better by not using windows
at least a true statement

>>16841138
>As if gaming matters to their share price or company wide profits.
the video game industry makes more profit than the film industry and music industry combined, of course it matters

>>16841226
Sure, the game industry is a multi-billion dollars business. However the IT and tech industry is a multi-trillion dollar industry. It is not comparable.

>>16841236
>the IT and tech industry is a multi-trillion dollar industry
and 90% of it is speculation

You, the person reading this, are doomed.

>>16841246
And games aren't? 90% of them fail too.