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8/9/2025, 2:30:12 PM
>>512609258
>territory swap
I'm now coming around to the theory that Witkoff told Putin that the US may support all (or most) of Russia's territorial goals for the end of the war
>whole of Zaporizhzhia, Kherson, Donetsk, Luhansk, and Crimea
But that Russia would relinquish their holdings in Kharkov and Sumy.
This is what got Putin to the table.
And now they're walking it back and using media spin to change the terms
>territory swap
I'm now coming around to the theory that Witkoff told Putin that the US may support all (or most) of Russia's territorial goals for the end of the war
>whole of Zaporizhzhia, Kherson, Donetsk, Luhansk, and Crimea
But that Russia would relinquish their holdings in Kharkov and Sumy.
This is what got Putin to the table.
And now they're walking it back and using media spin to change the terms
8/8/2025, 5:15:28 PM
>>512538696
Here's more from
>people familiar with the matter
In (((Bloomberg))) today
>US and Russian officials are working toward an agreement on territories for a planned summit meeting between Presidents Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin as early as next week, the people said, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss private deliberations. The US is working to get buy-in from Ukraine and its European allies on the deal, which is far from certain, the people said.
>Putin is demanding that Ukraine cede its entire eastern Donbas area to Russia as well as Crimea, which his forces illegally annexed in 2014. That would require Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy to order a withdrawal of troops from parts of the Luhansk and Donetsk regions still held by Kyiv, handing Russia a victory that its army couldn’t achieve militarily since the start of the full-scale invasion in February 2022.
>Russia would halt its offensive in the Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions of Ukraine along the current battlelines as part of the deal, the people said.
>Ukraine cannot constitutionally cede territory and it has said it won’t recognize Russian occupation and annexation of its land.
So, Russia gets the rest of the Donbass? No other concessions mentioned.
Seems to be a US state department / CIA planted story. But why are they "leaking" this?
Here's more from
>people familiar with the matter
In (((Bloomberg))) today
>US and Russian officials are working toward an agreement on territories for a planned summit meeting between Presidents Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin as early as next week, the people said, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss private deliberations. The US is working to get buy-in from Ukraine and its European allies on the deal, which is far from certain, the people said.
>Putin is demanding that Ukraine cede its entire eastern Donbas area to Russia as well as Crimea, which his forces illegally annexed in 2014. That would require Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy to order a withdrawal of troops from parts of the Luhansk and Donetsk regions still held by Kyiv, handing Russia a victory that its army couldn’t achieve militarily since the start of the full-scale invasion in February 2022.
>Russia would halt its offensive in the Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions of Ukraine along the current battlelines as part of the deal, the people said.
>Ukraine cannot constitutionally cede territory and it has said it won’t recognize Russian occupation and annexation of its land.
So, Russia gets the rest of the Donbass? No other concessions mentioned.
Seems to be a US state department / CIA planted story. But why are they "leaking" this?
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