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6/20/2025, 4:35:19 AM
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>Ireland
I do not see any caste priest/brahmin at the top, warrior/kshatriya in the upper middle, merchant/vaishya in the lower middle and peasant/shudra at the bottom base in the old Irish caste system. As important as the Rigveda is as the oldest IE sacred text in an attempt to reconstruction/study of the PIE religion, this is still anachronistic because the Vedic caste system comes from the Purusha Sukta in 10 Mandala of Rigveda, the last mandala, which together the 1 Mandala, was composed around 1200–1000 BC, already in the middle of Aryan sedentarization phase. These mandalas have no caste parallel in the previous mandalas (2 to 7), which are older (c. 1500–1300 BC) and were composed by the majority of Aryan tribes defeated in the Battle of the Ten Kings, which still maintained a tribal, warrior religion, with no system of caste or abstract philosophy, and allied themselves with the fucking Dasa and other non-Vedic tribes in a battle against a guy named Sudasa which was only ally of two Aryan tribes.
Mandala 10 brings ideals such as cosmic soul (Purusha), mystical creation and universal order (Rta), elements that make it, in practice, an Upanishad/Vedanta. It directly anticipates posterior Hindu philosophical thinking and is much more influential in classic Hinduism than the rest of Rigveda. In other words, what is seen at the end of the Veda is no longer a PIE religion, but a form adapted to the agricultural, urban and hierarchical lifestyle that the Aryans adopted after migrating.
Because this trying to design the 10 Mandala caste system for the previous PIE religion is forced. PIE people had no coded castes or mystical philosophy, they had a simple, functional religion, facing the sacrifice, tribal gods, and the prestige of the clan. The Arya and Dasa model, which appears in the ancient mandalas as opposition between rival tribes reflects this primitive phase and the nomadic pastoralist way of life of the PIE.
>Ireland
I do not see any caste priest/brahmin at the top, warrior/kshatriya in the upper middle, merchant/vaishya in the lower middle and peasant/shudra at the bottom base in the old Irish caste system. As important as the Rigveda is as the oldest IE sacred text in an attempt to reconstruction/study of the PIE religion, this is still anachronistic because the Vedic caste system comes from the Purusha Sukta in 10 Mandala of Rigveda, the last mandala, which together the 1 Mandala, was composed around 1200–1000 BC, already in the middle of Aryan sedentarization phase. These mandalas have no caste parallel in the previous mandalas (2 to 7), which are older (c. 1500–1300 BC) and were composed by the majority of Aryan tribes defeated in the Battle of the Ten Kings, which still maintained a tribal, warrior religion, with no system of caste or abstract philosophy, and allied themselves with the fucking Dasa and other non-Vedic tribes in a battle against a guy named Sudasa which was only ally of two Aryan tribes.
Mandala 10 brings ideals such as cosmic soul (Purusha), mystical creation and universal order (Rta), elements that make it, in practice, an Upanishad/Vedanta. It directly anticipates posterior Hindu philosophical thinking and is much more influential in classic Hinduism than the rest of Rigveda. In other words, what is seen at the end of the Veda is no longer a PIE religion, but a form adapted to the agricultural, urban and hierarchical lifestyle that the Aryans adopted after migrating.
Because this trying to design the 10 Mandala caste system for the previous PIE religion is forced. PIE people had no coded castes or mystical philosophy, they had a simple, functional religion, facing the sacrifice, tribal gods, and the prestige of the clan. The Arya and Dasa model, which appears in the ancient mandalas as opposition between rival tribes reflects this primitive phase and the nomadic pastoralist way of life of the PIE.
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