>>76334462
Another thing is fat or even chubby women/men dressing how you mentioned and somehow the vague dark aesthetic pushes them over the line. Even if the fashion and everything was on point, the weight itself is disqualifying.
Although there aren't really 'goth men' now even going by the nonsensical standards, it's mostly women being conceived as such for fetishistic purposes.

>“OOOOH GOTH MOMMY I LOVE GOTH GIRLS”
Something I've read online is that since male heterosexuality has been socially engineered to posses this air of objective abusive perversity/'wrongness' to it (or just men in general), the only acceptable way for attraction to a woman to be expressed is domination fetish. You can't take agency and essentially say "I think she's hot and want to sleep with her", so instead it's "I want her to step on me & spit in my mouth & put my penis in a CBT torture device."
I think the reason they latch onto goth women is correlating the 'dark' tone to black leather bondage shit.

>>76334200
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