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7/22/2025, 7:03:09 PM
>>7658712
>crits are useful when you can't see how to make a painting better and need another set of eyes to help
This is correct. Though it's also correct that they're useful for when you're making crap and don't understand why.
>>7658759
He was asking if you are the gypsy who keeps bitching about postmodernism.
>>7658758
To understand it requires understanding history. The easiest example of a modern art movement is Italo-Futurism, which explicitly had a "grand narrative" attached, and was the meat that Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile added to their socialist broth to produce the fucked up stew of Italo-Fascism. "Italo" prefixing both to be very specific about the underlying concept I am referring to.
Modern art movements were ALL about grand narratives. Kazimir Malevich's schizo rants included his Manifesto of Suprematism. EVERYONE was making manifestos.
Postmodernism is rejection of that, undermining the core (the narrative) while preserving the lack of representation.
If you want to really understand this shit, this program (about 1.5 hours total, broken up into parts as a playlist) is very helpful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg3oQ_OqQ_o&list=PLM4S2hGZDSE5SOht-nruKVOvuR5lrCw2T
As a fair warning, the meat of this program is most likely to make you hate it even more. It's unique in that the presenter uses a happy, interested tone for everything while laying bare just how most of this is rooted in schizophrenic socialists. He does avoid a lot of movements (like the aforementioned Italo-Futurism) but it lays out how so many of these early artists thought they were rebuilding society on their retarded foundations. THAT is what PoMo art rejects.
>crits are useful when you can't see how to make a painting better and need another set of eyes to help
This is correct. Though it's also correct that they're useful for when you're making crap and don't understand why.
>>7658759
He was asking if you are the gypsy who keeps bitching about postmodernism.
>>7658758
To understand it requires understanding history. The easiest example of a modern art movement is Italo-Futurism, which explicitly had a "grand narrative" attached, and was the meat that Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile added to their socialist broth to produce the fucked up stew of Italo-Fascism. "Italo" prefixing both to be very specific about the underlying concept I am referring to.
Modern art movements were ALL about grand narratives. Kazimir Malevich's schizo rants included his Manifesto of Suprematism. EVERYONE was making manifestos.
Postmodernism is rejection of that, undermining the core (the narrative) while preserving the lack of representation.
If you want to really understand this shit, this program (about 1.5 hours total, broken up into parts as a playlist) is very helpful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg3oQ_OqQ_o&list=PLM4S2hGZDSE5SOht-nruKVOvuR5lrCw2T
As a fair warning, the meat of this program is most likely to make you hate it even more. It's unique in that the presenter uses a happy, interested tone for everything while laying bare just how most of this is rooted in schizophrenic socialists. He does avoid a lot of movements (like the aforementioned Italo-Futurism) but it lays out how so many of these early artists thought they were rebuilding society on their retarded foundations. THAT is what PoMo art rejects.
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