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6/23/2025, 8:32:54 AM
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>Hilary: "offering Himself voluntarily a victim to God the Father"
You see the ambiguity here, right? PSA (Calvin) sees this as the victim receiving wrath from the Father. But it does not necessarily read that way. If I gave myself as a voluntary victim to move someone out of the way of a bus, the "someone" is not who I am a victim of.
>sneed
Picrel
>At no point have I said "uh well you are wrong about soteriology".
I know, we probably both believe Faith Alone. But EO (and most Christians) will give an incoherent answer that doesn't fit the formula when you bring up "the man in the jungle who has never heard of Jesus"
>Hilary: "offering Himself voluntarily a victim to God the Father"
You see the ambiguity here, right? PSA (Calvin) sees this as the victim receiving wrath from the Father. But it does not necessarily read that way. If I gave myself as a voluntary victim to move someone out of the way of a bus, the "someone" is not who I am a victim of.
>sneed
Picrel
>At no point have I said "uh well you are wrong about soteriology".
I know, we probably both believe Faith Alone. But EO (and most Christians) will give an incoherent answer that doesn't fit the formula when you bring up "the man in the jungle who has never heard of Jesus"
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