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7/15/2025, 1:25:58 PM
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There's a bit more nuance. It's about being able to live a life without regret and accept the broken parts of you, and Saber's story uses the contrast between man and idealised myth to do that.
Her wish to have someone else become king stems from the idea that just because she failed, then she is a total failure without valour. The truth the narrative is leading you to is that she did as good a job as could possibly be done, because even if someone else wouldn't have made the same mistakes, they'd still have made mistakes. The important part was having someone with the strength of body and heart to try.
The most important scene is arguably the Church confrontation in the Fate route, where Kirei offers the grail to Shirou and Saber if they join him.
>in the Fate route, she sees how selflessly Shirou acts which in turn inspires her to abandon her selfish wish and accepting the past
That's not what Shirou does. What he does is he comes to finally accept his own shortcomings and pain. He is a fuck-up, he is broken inside, he is far from the person he wishes to be, and that is okay. To pretend he should start over is to desecrate all the good in this life and all the good within him. He is his scars and that's worth accepting. That is true for Saber too. It is not worth humouring the idea of a better 'other' since, for among the many faults of assuming such, it takes away from the good in your life. She is the Knight King. She has lived a life that granted a century of prosperity and inspired the most noble knights of Britain. It's not the eternal utopia she sought at first, but it is enough.
I don't think that's hyperanalysing to say, and I think that's useful wisdom to a good life.
There's a bit more nuance. It's about being able to live a life without regret and accept the broken parts of you, and Saber's story uses the contrast between man and idealised myth to do that.
Her wish to have someone else become king stems from the idea that just because she failed, then she is a total failure without valour. The truth the narrative is leading you to is that she did as good a job as could possibly be done, because even if someone else wouldn't have made the same mistakes, they'd still have made mistakes. The important part was having someone with the strength of body and heart to try.
The most important scene is arguably the Church confrontation in the Fate route, where Kirei offers the grail to Shirou and Saber if they join him.
>in the Fate route, she sees how selflessly Shirou acts which in turn inspires her to abandon her selfish wish and accepting the past
That's not what Shirou does. What he does is he comes to finally accept his own shortcomings and pain. He is a fuck-up, he is broken inside, he is far from the person he wishes to be, and that is okay. To pretend he should start over is to desecrate all the good in this life and all the good within him. He is his scars and that's worth accepting. That is true for Saber too. It is not worth humouring the idea of a better 'other' since, for among the many faults of assuming such, it takes away from the good in your life. She is the Knight King. She has lived a life that granted a century of prosperity and inspired the most noble knights of Britain. It's not the eternal utopia she sought at first, but it is enough.
I don't think that's hyperanalysing to say, and I think that's useful wisdom to a good life.
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