>>716146761
Fate's whole dynamic is Shirou and Saber calling each other out for their martyr complexes only to realize they see themselves in each other; they both overcome their respective guilt thanks to their relationship, and its through this that Shirou pursues his dream in the epilogue without losing himself like Archer did. While I think the visual representation of overcoming oneself in UBW hit harder, Fate's finale and epilogue cement it as my favorite route
>>716148441
>tournament for shifty mages created by shifty mages and organized by people who hate the shifty mages (later just shifty mages as well)
>everyone involved cheats
I never understood this complaint. The Holy Grail War is the most realistic secret-society tournament ever written